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Heinrich

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Nov 11, 2008, 2:29:16 AM11/11/08
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When Scandinavia is mentioned, we instinctively conjure up images of decent
people who are our friends. We associate them with the king of Denmark's
refusal to implement the Nazi racial laws, the rescue of 7,000 Danish Jews
to neutral Sweden and noble humanitarians like Raoul Wallenberg, the Swedish
diplomat in Hungary who emerged as the role model for Righteous Gentiles.
Many of us also remember Per Ahlmark, the former Swedish deputy prime
minister and leader of the Liberal Party, who was a stalwart campaigner
against anti-Semitism and probably the first non-Jewish statesman to
publicly proclaim that hatred of Israel was being exploited as a surrogate
for traditional anti-Semitism.

Yet regrettably, this beatific image of philo-Semitic Scandinavians is a far
cry from reality. Despite the presence of only minuscule Jewish communities
in the region, Scandinavian countries are today at the forefront of
promoting the most vicious expressions of the new anti-Semitism and are at
the vanguard of the global campaign to demonize and delegitimize Israel.
What makes their application of double standards and virulent bias grate
even more is the sanctimonious manner in which they cloak their venom
against the Jewish state and Jews in general.

For the first time, this subject has been comprehensively encapsulated in a
book of 13 essays and interviews edited by Manfred Gerstenfeld, published
jointly by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs and the Simon Wiesenthal
Center. It opens with a foreword by Gert Weisskirchen, the personal
representative of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe's
chairman, on combating anti-Semitism. Weisskirchen does not hold back and
stresses that the demonization of Israel, especially the bracketing of Jews
and Nazis, represents one of the most obvious manifestations of the new
anti-Semitism that dominates political discourse on the Middle East even
among liberal politicians and the mainstream press.

The book demonstrates that far from being a new phenomenon, anti-Semitism
has dominated the region for centuries, and originates with hostility
against Jews coming from the predominantly Lutheran affiliation of
Scandinavians. It is not coincidental that Jewish ritual slaughter was
banned in Norway even before Hitler's ascent to power, despite the fact that
Norwegians regard hunting as a national pastime and Norway remains one of
only three countries in the world in which whaling is still permitted.

The book contains chapters by Danish scholars who unmask the pretence that
philo-Semitism prevails and demonstrate that despite the rescue of Danish
Jews in 1943 (which according to recent disclosures also incorporated some
seamy aspects), there were other aspects of Danish behavior under the Nazis
that were despicable. For example, 6,000 Danes voluntarily joined the Waffen
SS, Danish industry collaborated enthusiastically with the Nazis and Jewish
refugees were expelled and handed over to the Nazis between 1940 and 1943.
Efraim Zuroff, the Nazi hunter, provides a chapter that demonstrates that
successive postwar governments prevaricated and displayed great reluctance
in prosecuting war criminals and in some cases even assisted Nazis to
escape.

In the contemporary context, it was the socialist Swedish prime minister,
the late Olof Palme, who under the guise of promoting human rights, became
the first European leader to inverse Holocaust denial by accusing Israelis
of behaving like Nazis toward the Palestinians. It was also Archbishop Karl
Hammar, head of the Swedish Lutheran Council, who became one of the first to
call for a boycott of goods from Israel. Mainstream media caricatures of
Israelis in the region are among the worst in Europe, especially in Norway,
where they were so offensive that they were equated with the anti-Semitic
cartoons which appeared in Der Stürmer.

The aggressiveness and power of Muslims who have immigrated to the region in
recent years was dramatically highlighted during the violent onslaught
against the Danish media when one of its dailies, Jylland-Posten, published
12 cartoons displaying caricatures of the prophet Muhammad. Ultimately, most
of the media, together with the government, cravenly capitulated in the face
of local and international Muslim threats of violence.

One of the most fascinating chapters in the book is the interview with Zvi
Mazel, a former ambassador to Sweden, who describes his trials and
tribulations within the context of bizarre anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic
onslaughts emanating from the government and NGOs and constant death threats
expressed publicly by Muslim imams. Mazel also describes the hysterical
media responses after he personally disconnected the electricity to an
obscene art exhibition glorifying suicide bombers, created by a demented
Israeli living in Sweden.

The overall situation is encapsulated in a brilliant summary by Gerstenfeld,
chairman of the Board of Fellows of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs,
who traces the history and provides a chapter-and- verse account of the
double standards, bias and naked anti-Semitism which pervades the region.
His most devastating depictions are a country by country outline of Nordic
responses to the Second Lebanon War. They display incredible hostility
against Israel largely based on ignorance and falsehoods promoted under the
cloak of purported humanitarianism.

The book is a pioneering study of how in our times, even in regions in which
few Jews reside, organizations purportedly promoting human rights have been
hijacked by anti-Semites who promote demonization of Israel as a vehicle to
besmirch Jews. Indeed, it illustrates that in Western Europe the
Scandinavian countries have assumed a vanguard role in applying bias and
distortions against Israel in a manner that has never been applied against
any other nation. It demonstrates how traditional anti-Semites, radical
leftists, Muslim immigrants and the media have colluded in shamelessly
promoting the world's oldest hatred. Hopefully, it will lead to soul
searching and analysis in the region and promote a backlash from decent
Scandinavians who have hitherto resisted participating in the ongoing hate
fest against Israel and the Jewish people

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1225910049068&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Ben Cramer

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Nov 11, 2008, 2:43:30 AM11/11/08
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Fuck me dead.

Do these turds NEVER stop whining?


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Kurt Knoll

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Holocaust blackmail creates ant Semitism.
kk

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I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 11, 2008, 4:16:06 AM11/11/08
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"Kurt Knoll" <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote in
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> Holocaust blackmail creates ant Semitism.


Yes, ernst zundel, david irving and kunt knoll create holocaust blackmail.

Kurt Knoll

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Nov 11, 2008, 4:23:50 AM11/11/08
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Get real guy did anyone of us ever take to court for not believing in the
holocaust. A dishonest character like will never convince me as being
honest.
Kurt Knoll.

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I'll Always Be Here

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"Kurt Knoll" <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote in
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> Get real guy did anyone of us ever take to court for not believing in
> the holocaust.


Thank you for admitting that holocaust denial is not a crime in canada.

> A dishonest character like will never convince me as being honest.


Would you like to finally tell us the truth about how many people died in
a single air raid on Nuremberg or are you going to maintain your two-
headed twisted-snake shithouse cleaning insistence that you are being
honest?

±DoügßÇ

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Nov 11, 2008, 9:19:20 AM11/11/08
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The next time you have a thought, just let it go.


Kurt Knoll

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Denial maybe is asking question is not. anyone who does not believe in your
holocaust and is questioning it is a holocaust denier. No wonder you will
screw anyone that critics your holocaust.
Kurt Knoll.

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Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <nTbSk.1753$xJ3.568@edtnps83>,
The besotted spokesman for Holocaust Revisionists, Kurt Knoll,
reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat and Laughing Stock
of UseNet, fluffed his Jet Black SS Dumbkopf Legion Tutu
with the "I am Stupid" Merit Badge and <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote:

>Holocaust blackmail creates ant Semitism.

And yet the Brothers Knoll learned their hatred of Jews at their mother's
breast.

112 Statements Demonstrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's
strict adherence to the high intellectual standards of Holocaust denial:

(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for the first 105)
(Honest, Folks, I'm not making them up!)

106. "We all know in whose poked the judge is who made this decision."
<GsEOk.5306$fF3.4489@edtnps83>,, October 31, 2008

107. "There you go mirelle and the Jews fuck anyone the can
some others twice." <%HBPk.5939$%%2.2445@edtnps82>,
Nov. 3, 2008

108. "Go back to you comic book and finish reading it . But I know you
are all fucket up and the Syphilis bothering your brain."
<1MaQk.417$A73.19@edtnps82>, Nov. 5, 2008

109. "In CASE of world war lI the germans reap what they are
dolt to blivr no questions ask." <AyLQk.878$xJ3.60@edtnps83>,
Nov. 6, 2008

110. "You must be kidding I do save all your replies and my postings
no wunder why all of us do not rust you."
<%hMQk.902$xJ3.739@edtnps83>, Nov. 6, 2008

111. "There is no need to reply to dihonedt partites like you."
<On4Rk.1097$xJ3.29@edtnps83>, Nov. 8, 2008

112. "If tree were still some of the camp guards alive today."
<yMqRk.1255$A73.188@edtnps82>, Nov. 9, 2008

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orders yet, and paid the $50,000 in damages and
additional substantial costs to Mr. Warman?
Tell it to the Judge: http://william-grosvenor.info

Kenneth McVay OBC

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Nov 11, 2008, 2:22:03 PM11/11/08
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In article <GacSk.1755$xJ3.506@edtnps83>,

The besotted spokesman for Holocaust Revisionists, Kurt Knoll,
reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat and Laughing Stock
of UseNet, fluffed his Jet Black SS Dumbkopf Legion Tutu
with the "I am Stupid" Merit Badge and <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote:

>Get real guy did anyone of us ever take to court for not believing in the
>holocaust. A dishonest character like will never convince me as being
>honest.

Get real, Frau Pikelhaube. No one has ever been taken to court for not
believing in the Holocaust. A dishonest character like you (see below)
will never convince me of his integrity.

YOU have yet to prove that the Yale University Law "Avalon Project"
is "Jewish," as you claimed in August, 2008.

YOU have yet to prove that "Gussen was a regional crematorium
and therefore also included civilian death from this area," as you
claimed on July 3, 2008.

YOU have yet to prove that "the Germans killed more Jews
that were ever alive" as you claimed on June 28, 2008

YOU have yet to prove that reporters or photographers carried
"5 or 6" striped inmate uniforms from concentration camp to
concentration camp just to photograph people wearing them,
as you have claimed.

YOU have yet to prove that (1) human fat will not combust, and
(2) contribute to the heat of the cremation process, as you
have claimed.

YOU have failed to prove the existence of a single "Eisenhower
death camp," as you have claimed, and you have ignored the fact
that the German Government itself has said that Bacque's
assertions about hundreds of thousands of German soldiers being
deliberately starved to death is absolute rubbish.

YOU have failed to document that concentration camp guards -
ANY concentration camp guards - were ever placed under any
sort of "gag order" by anyone, as you have claimed, nor have you
been able to produce this alleged "gag order," or point to any
archive, anywhere in the world, where it might be found.

YOU have failed to prove your incredibly stupid assertion that
45,000 people died during the bombing of Nurnberg as you have claimed.

YOU have failed to prove your bizarre assertion that someone,
somewhere, said that the Germans killed prisoners at Mauthausen
as soon as they arrived by train, as you have claimed.

YOU have yet to show which clause of the Versailles Treaty, exactly,
prohibits the construction of Polish military installations along
the Polish Corridor, even though you claim such a prohibition exists
within the treaty.

YOU have failed to produce any "agreement" between the Allies and the
post-war German government that banned "butting" the Allies in "a bad
light" as you have claimed.

YOU have not contacted European universities to determine whether or not
materials you claim are "banned," as you have claimed, are available.

YOU have not documented a single law that banned publication of newspapers
printed between 1918 and 1939, as you have claimed.

YOU have not contacted the IFZ to ask them to document their claim about
gassings at Dachau.

YOU cannot produce a shred of documentation proving that a plaque exists
outside the Dachau camp which states that no one was ever gassed there,
as you have claimed.

YOU have not documented a single law which bans "discussion of the
Holocaust," or "asking questions about the Holocaust," as you have
claimed.

THAT is why your claim that you are here to "find out the truth" is so
easily revealed as a blatant lie.

YOU have not documented or identified a single law which forbids
"dissection" of Holocaust historiography, as you have claimed.

--
"Irving's conclusions were completely untenable. I thought his
scholarship was sloppy and unreliable and did not meet even the
most basic requirements of honest and competent historical
research." (Richard Evans, Lying About Hitler, p.70)

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <uSkSk.1794$xJ3.1366@edtnps83>,

The besotted spokesman for Holocaust Revisionists, Kurt Knoll,
reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat and Laughing Stock
of UseNet, fluffed his Jet Black SS Dumbkopf Legion Tutu
with the "I am Stupid" Merit Badge and <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote:

>Denial maybe is asking question is not. anyone who does not believe in your
>holocaust and is questioning it is a holocaust denier. No wonder you will
>screw anyone that critics your holocaust.

Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll, the Laughing Stock of UseNet,
is lying - again.

He is not only lying, but doing so intentionally, because he knows full
well that German historians of the Functionalist and Intentionalist
schools have debated - and thus criticized - Holocaust historiography
for decades.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functionalism_versus_intentionalism
for details.

Historians like Hans Mommsen, a member of the Social Democratic Party of
Germany who has taught at Tuebingen and Bochum, Martin Broszat (Cologne,
and the IFZ, Munich), Andreas Hillgruber (d. 1989, having taught at
Marburg, Freiburg and Cologne)...

Karl Bracher (Berlin, Bonn - Wikipedia says, "Bracher has often
CRITICIZED the functionist-structuralist interpretation of the Third
Reich championed by such scholars such as Martin Broszat and Hans
Mommsen, and decried their view of Hitler as a 'weak dictator'. In
Bracher's view, Hitler was the 'Master of the Third Reich'. With
respect to the genesis of the Holocaust, he is a confirmed
Intentionalist. It is his position that the entire project of the
genocide of European Jewry resulted from Adolf Hitler's
anti-Semitic hatred."), Klaus Hildebrand (Bonn)...

Eberhard Jaeckel (Stuttgart - Wikipedia says, "Jäckel is one of
the leading Intentionalists in regard to the Functionalism versus
Intentionalism debate, arguing from the 1960s on that there was a
long range plan on the part of Hitler to exterminate the Jewish
people from about 1924 on, views that led to INTENSE DEBATES with
Functionalist historians such as Hans Mommsen and Martin Broszat.
Recently, Jäckel has modified his position. He now believes that
most of the initiatives for the Holocaust came from Hitler, though
it was more the result of a series of ad hoc decisions rather a
masterplan on the part of Hitler. In the Historikerstreit (Historians'
Dispute) of the 1986-1988, Jäckel was a prominent critic of
Ernst Nolte, whose theory of Nazi crimes as a reaction to Soviet
crimes was denounced as ahistorical by Jäckel under the grounds
that Hitler held the Soviet Union in contempt and therefore could
not have possibly felt threatened by the Soviets as Nolte suggested.")...

(Emphasis mine)

CRITICIZED, Leading Revisionist Scholar Knoll?
INTENSE DEBATES, Leading Revisionist Scholar Knoll?

You people sure are DUMB.

--
"I am not stressed out since I can analyze
your holohoax in my urine." (Kurt Knoll,
Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

I'll Always Be Here

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"Kurt Knoll" <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote in
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> Denial maybe is asking question is not.


Denial is exactly what you do. You don't answer questions. That is denial.


anyone who does not believe in
> your holocaust and is questioning it is a holocaust denier.


Anyone who asks you a question is a zionist.

> No wonder you will screw anyone that critics your holocaust.


No wonder you intimidate anyone who asks you a question.

Kurt Knoll

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There are no direct guidelines sucker. For the interpretation of it the
holocaust mafia who is in charge of it.
Kurt Knoll.

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Kurt Knoll

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Denial maybe is asking question is not. anyone who does not believe in your
holocaust and is questioning it is a holocaust denier. No wonder you will

screw anyone that critics your holocaust.
Kurt Knoll.

this is what i wrote above altering or shortening posting from others is
your way of live you are a master liar.
Kurt Knoll.

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Kurt Knoll

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I did learn no such thing from my mother but you are a well known con
artist.
Kurt Knoll

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Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <IFlSk.1807$xJ3.540@edtnps83>,

The besotted spokesman for Holocaust Revisionists, Kurt Knoll,
reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat and Laughing Stock
of UseNet, fluffed his Jet Black SS Dumbkopf Legion Tutu
with the "I am Stupid" Merit Badge and <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote:

>There are no direct guidelines sucker. For the interpretation of it the
>holocaust mafia who is in charge of it.

If "there are no direct guidelines," then how can the "Holocaust mafia" be
in charge of "interpretation," Frau Pikelhaube?

And what does that have to do with your lies about "anyone who questions
the Holocaust is a Holocaust denier," when faced with the long-running
debate between Functionalists and Intentionalists?

112 Statements Demonstrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's
strict adherence to the high intellectual standards of Holocaust denial:

(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for the first 105)
(Honest, Folks, I'm not making them up!)

106. "We all know in whose poked the judge is who made this decision."
<GsEOk.5306$fF3.4489@edtnps83>,, October 31, 2008

107. "There you go mirelle and the Jews fuck anyone the can
some others twice." <%HBPk.5939$%%2.2445@edtnps82>,
Nov. 3, 2008

108. "Go back to you comic book and finish reading it . But I know you
are all fucket up and the Syphilis bothering your brain."
<1MaQk.417$A73.19@edtnps82>, Nov. 5, 2008

109. "In CASE of world war lI the germans reap what they are
dolt to blivr no questions ask." <AyLQk.878$xJ3.60@edtnps83>,
Nov. 6, 2008

110. "You must be kidding I do save all your replies and my postings
no wunder why all of us do not rust you."
<%hMQk.902$xJ3.739@edtnps83>, Nov. 6, 2008

111. "There is no need to reply to dihonedt partites like you."
<On4Rk.1097$xJ3.29@edtnps83>, Nov. 8, 2008

112. "If tree were still some of the camp guards alive today."
<yMqRk.1255$A73.188@edtnps82>, Nov. 9, 2008

--
"Streicher commit suicide while in the Nuremberg Jail But you
people did hang him after that"
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Moron)

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <7IlSk.1808$xJ3.979@edtnps83>,

The besotted spokesman for Holocaust Revisionists, Kurt Knoll,
reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat and Laughing Stock
of UseNet, fluffed his Jet Black SS Dumbkopf Legion Tutu
with the "I am Stupid" Merit Badge and <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote:

>Denial maybe is asking question is not. anyone who does not believe in your
>holocaust and is questioning it is a holocaust denier. No wonder you will
>screw anyone that critics your holocaust.
>Kurt Knoll.
>
>this is what i wrote above altering or shortening posting from others is
>your way of live you are a master liar.

Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll, the Laughing Stock of UseNet,
is lying - again.

(Emphasis mine)

--
The Nizkor Project - An electronic Holocaust educational resource
David Irving, Holocaust denial, and his connections to Right-Wing
Extremists and Neo-Nazism in Germany:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/f/funke-hajo/

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <wJlSk.1809$xJ3.1393@edtnps83>,
The besotted Intellectual Leader of Holocaust Revisionism,
Kurt Knoll, reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat and Laughing
Stock of UseNet, fluffed his Azure Blue Luftwaffe Condor
Legion Tutu with the "I am knolling" Cross and <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote:

>I did learn no such thing from my mother but you are a well known con
>artist.

You didn't learn anything from anyone, Frau Pikelhaube, excepting that you
learned to hate from your mother. Hatred is taught, Frau Pikelhaube, just
as it was taught to you and "refucked Werner."

112 Statements Demonstrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's
strict adherence to the high intellectual standards of Holocaust denial:

(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for the first 105)
(Honest, Folks, I'm not making them up!)

106. "We all know in whose poked the judge is who made this decision."
<GsEOk.5306$fF3.4489@edtnps83>,, October 31, 2008

107. "There you go mirelle and the Jews fuck anyone the can
some others twice." <%HBPk.5939$%%2.2445@edtnps82>,
Nov. 3, 2008

108. "Go back to you comic book and finish reading it . But I know you
are all fucket up and the Syphilis bothering your brain."
<1MaQk.417$A73.19@edtnps82>, Nov. 5, 2008

109. "In CASE of world war lI the germans reap what they are
dolt to blivr no questions ask." <AyLQk.878$xJ3.60@edtnps83>,
Nov. 6, 2008

110. "You must be kidding I do save all your replies and my postings
no wunder why all of us do not rust you."
<%hMQk.902$xJ3.739@edtnps83>, Nov. 6, 2008

111. "There is no need to reply to dihonedt partites like you."
<On4Rk.1097$xJ3.29@edtnps83>, Nov. 8, 2008

112. "If tree were still some of the camp guards alive today."
<yMqRk.1255$A73.188@edtnps82>, Nov. 9, 2008

--
"No wonder years after the war was over he found some more
diaries of Ann Frank and she did not know about it."
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)

I'll Always Be Here

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"Kurt Knoll" <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote in news:IFlSk.1807$xJ3.540
@edtnps83:

> There are no direct guidelines sucker.

Very interesting. Where can we find proof of your lie?

> For the interpretation of it the holocaust mafia who is in charge of
it.


For the interpretation of how many people died in a single air raid on
Nuremberg, whe have the knollohoaxer response.

I'll Always Be Here

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"Kurt Knoll" <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote in news:7IlSk.1808$xJ3.979
@edtnps83:

> Denial maybe is asking question is not. anyone who does not believe in
your
> holocaust and is questioning it is a holocaust denier. No wonder you
will
> screw anyone that critics your holocaust.
> Kurt Knoll.
>
> this is what i wrote above altering or shortening posting from others is
> your way of live you are a master liar.


This is what I wrote:

"
"Kurt Knoll" <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote in
news:uSkSk.1794$xJ3.1366@edtnps83:

> Denial maybe is asking question is not.


Denial is exactly what you do. You don't answer questions. That is denial.


anyone who does not believe in
> your holocaust and is questioning it is a holocaust denier.


Anyone who asks you a question is a zionist.

> No wonder you will screw anyone that critics your holocaust.


No wonder you intimidate anyone who asks you a question.

"


altering or shortening posting from others is what the knollohoaxers do

I'll Always Be Here

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"Kurt Knoll" <kno...@citywest.ca> wrote in news:wJlSk.1809$xJ3.1393
@edtnps83:

> I did learn no such thing from my mother but you are a well known con
> artist.


We know that you did not learn anything from your mother.

Zulu

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Heinrich wrote:

> When Scandinavia is mentioned, we instinctively conjure up images of
> decent people who are our friends. We associate them with the king of

...

> The book is a pioneering study of how in our times, even in regions in
> which few Jews reside, organizations purportedly promoting human rights
> have been hijacked by anti-Semites who promote demonization of Israel as
> a vehicle to besmirch Jews. Indeed, it illustrates that in Western
> Europe the Scandinavian countries have assumed a vanguard role in
> applying bias and distortions against Israel in a manner that has never
> been applied against any other nation. It demonstrates how traditional
> anti-Semites, radical leftists, Muslim immigrants and the media have
> colluded in shamelessly promoting the world's oldest hatred. Hopefully,
> it will lead to soul searching and analysis in the region and promote a
> backlash from decent Scandinavians who have hitherto resisted
> participating in the ongoing hate fest against Israel and the Jewish people
>
> http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1225910049068&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
>

According with Zionists, all the world community should be accomplice
of the violations of UNO resolutions, war crimes and crimes against
humanity perpetrated by the little rogue state.

At the same time, they claim that the world was not enough reacting
against Hitler policy concerning jews...

Wouldn't that be judeocentrism?

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 11, 2008, 6:31:44 PM11/11/08
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Zulu <zu...@volcanomail.com> wrote in
news:42ec5717-7212-4796...@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

Try christianocentrism. At this time of year it is hard to escape being
viciously mugged by christianity and its perverse belief that consumerism
is the path to salvation.

jgarbuz

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Nov 11, 2008, 6:44:06 PM11/11/08
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On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com> wrote:
> Fuck me dead.
>
> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<

Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority and
incompetence on Jews?

jgarbuz

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Nov 11, 2008, 6:45:48 PM11/11/08
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On Nov 11, 6:31 pm, "I'll Always Be Here"
<aussiess...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Ah, but Christimas supposedly celebrates the birth of a Jewish god in
Beth Lechem. Therefore, it must be a Jewish invention to make money.

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 11, 2008, 6:54:09 PM11/11/08
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jgarbuz <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in
news:579fb362-dbe9-4dcf...@r36g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 11, 6:31 pm, "I'll Always Be Here"
> <aussiess...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Zulu <z...@volcanomail.com> wrote

>> innews:42ec5717-7212-4796-9873-
cb927f...@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

Ssssh! We can't let them know, it would ruin our attempts to take control
of the last five Jew-free banks in the world

Eli Grubman

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Nov 11, 2008, 8:42:36 PM11/11/08
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No, a Christian G-d in Bethlehem.

>Therefore, it must be a Jewish invention to make money.

Jews will take every opportunity to make money. You bastards even try
to make money out of the alleged 'holocaust'®!

Eli

mpsur...@gmail.com

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Nov 11, 2008, 10:05:02 PM11/11/08
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Hi Eli,

Fluffy and Snippy are calling you. Don't worry. Santa will bring you
nice presents.

Nighty Night

Ben Cramer

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Nov 12, 2008, 12:41:36 AM11/12/08
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"jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...

We don't.

Stop with the lies and whining, garbageguz.


Eli Grubman

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Nov 12, 2008, 1:15:15 AM11/12/08
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:05:02 -0800 (PST), mpsur...@gmail.com wrote:

>Hi Eli,
>
>Fluffy and Snippy are calling you. Don't worry. Santa will bring you
>nice presents.
>
>Nighty Night

Hi a"h mpsurveys35. If you ask nicely, Santa will greek you when he
comes.

Eli

Poor Eli Grabmen is a Real Psychopath! LOL

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Nov 12, 2008, 7:43:00 AM11/12/08
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:15:15 -0500, Eli Grubman, the mental, emotional and
sexual cripple, wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:05:02 -0800 (PST), mpsur...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Hi Eli,
>>
>>Fluffy and Snippy are calling you. Don't worry. Santa will bring you
>>nice presents.
>>
>>Nighty Night
>
> Hi a"h mpsurveys35. If you ask nicely, Santa will greek you when he
> comes.
>
> Eli

If you are nice, Santa will bring you a bag full of shit to eat for you,
from all peoples and races of the world, psychopath Grabmen!

Doctor Panta

--
Attention!!! Psychopathic swine Grabmen was posting last night, AGAIN, till
02:49 a.m!!!! And it continued making an ass of itself already at 6:54 a.m.
again!!!! That is: after only a FOUR HOUR break, AGAIN!!!!

Poor Eli Grabmen is a Real Psychopath! LOL

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Nov 12, 2008, 7:43:02 AM11/12/08
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Jesus and his followers were Jews, psychopath Grabmen!!! Your Christian God
was a Jew!!! Keep meditating on it, psychopathic swine!

>>Therefore, it must be a Jewish invention to make money.
>
> Jews will take every opportunity to make money. You bastards even try
> to make money out of the alleged 'holocaust'®!
>
> Eli

You mean, they (and everybody else) should rather "live" like YOU do, poor
sod? LMAO!!!!

Gord McFee

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Nov 12, 2008, 10:12:59 PM11/12/08
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On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:

> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com> wrote:
>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>
>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority and
>> incompetence on Jews?
>
> We don't.

Oh, you just accept it.

There's hope, Ben.

--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time

Visit the Holocaust History Project
http://www.holocaust-history.org

Ben Cramer

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Nov 17, 2008, 2:32:15 AM11/17/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...

> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>
>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com> wrote:
>>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>>
>>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority and
>>> incompetence on Jews?
>>
>> We don't.
>
> Oh, you just accept it.
>
> There's hope, Ben.

Que?

How does your head work, old feller? Or does it?

Heinrich

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Nov 17, 2008, 3:58:02 AM11/17/08
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"Ben Cramer" <benis...@around.com> schreef in bericht
news:S6udnaiL36Wfg7zU...@giganews.com...

>
> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>
>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com> wrote:
>>>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>>>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority and
>>>> incompetence on Jews?
>>>
>>> We don't.
>>
>> Oh, you just accept it.

thyat mcfee fellow is he one of mac gays lovely boys?

Ben Cramer

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Nov 17, 2008, 4:07:19 AM11/17/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
news:6ocq2tF...@mid.individual.net...

>
> "Ben Cramer" <benis...@around.com> schreef in bericht
> news:S6udnaiL36Wfg7zU...@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>>>>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority and
>>>>> incompetence on Jews?
>>>>
>>>> We don't.
>>>
>>> Oh, you just accept it.
>
> thyat mcfee fellow is he one of mac gays lovely boys?

I'm beginning to think McFey is one of Gourd's boys.

Gord McFee

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Nov 17, 2008, 8:27:45 PM11/17/08
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On 11/17/2008 2:32 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:

> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>
>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com> wrote:
>>>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>>>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority and
>>>> incompetence on Jews?
>>> We don't.
>> Oh, you just accept it.
>>
>> There's hope, Ben.
>
> Que?

Take a remedial English course.

Gord McFee

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Nov 17, 2008, 8:29:33 PM11/17/08
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On 11/17/2008 4:07 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:

> "Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
> news:6ocq2tF...@mid.individual.net...
>> "Ben Cramer" <benis...@around.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:S6udnaiL36Wfg7zU...@giganews.com...
>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>>>>>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority
>>>>>> and incompetence on Jews?
>>>>> We don't.
>>>> Oh, you just accept it.
>> thyat mcfee fellow is he one of mac gays lovely boys?
>
> I'm beginning to think McFey is one of Gourd's boys.

There is a shocker. Ben runs away from the discussion and can't resist
wallowing in the filth with fellow piggie "Heinrich". You guys are
sooooooo easy.

Ben Cramer

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Nov 18, 2008, 2:02:30 AM11/18/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:0ToUk.343289$C65.1...@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...

> On 11/17/2008 2:32 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>
>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>>>>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority and
>>>>> incompetence on Jews?
>>>> We don't.
>>> Oh, you just accept it.
>>>
>>> There's hope, Ben.
>>
>> Que?
>
> Take a remedial English course.

Not me who fucks up the Queen's, silly tonk.


Ben Cramer

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Nov 18, 2008, 2:03:15 AM11/18/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:IUoUk.343290$C65.1...@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...

Que?

What's with all this delusion and lies, gourd?

Is it all you've got left?

Should have kept your powder dry, dickhead.

Gord McFee

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Nov 18, 2008, 8:39:32 PM11/18/08
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I don't know if you think you look clever by saying "que" every time
your argument is decimated, but you don't. You don't fool anyone except
morons like Heinrich.

Gord McFee

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Nov 18, 2008, 8:40:34 PM11/18/08
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On 11/18/2008 2:02 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:

> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:0ToUk.343289$C65.1...@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 11/17/2008 2:32 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>
>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>>>>>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority
>>>>>> and incompetence on Jews?
>>>>> We don't.
>>>> Oh, you just accept it.
>>>>
>>>> There's hope, Ben.
>>> Que?
>> Take a remedial English course.
>
> Not me who fucks up the Queen's, silly tonk.

Yes, I guess you are so far gone that not even remedial English would help.

Heinrich

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Nov 19, 2008, 2:10:47 AM11/19/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> schreef in bericht
news:38KUk.265699$4p1....@en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com...
wazzup mate do you have a problem with me? not that i care because i
consider you a pathetic little boy

Ben Cramer

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Nov 20, 2008, 1:20:57 AM11/20/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:38KUk.265699$4p1....@en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com...

It's not been decimated, old feller. I simply have no fucking idea what
you're blathering about. Nor, I suspect, do you.

Ben Cramer

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Nov 20, 2008, 1:21:32 AM11/20/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:09KUk.265711$4p1....@en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com...

> On 11/18/2008 2:02 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>
>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:0ToUk.343289$C65.1...@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 11/17/2008 2:32 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:43 am, "Ben Cramer" <benisalw...@around.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Fuck me dead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do these turds NEVER stop whining?<
>>>>>>> Will you Nazi shits ever stop blaming your own inferiority and
>>>>>>> incompetence on Jews?
>>>>>> We don't.
>>>>> Oh, you just accept it.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's hope, Ben.
>>>> Que?
>>> Take a remedial English course.
>>
>> Not me who fucks up the Queen's, silly tonk.
>
> Yes, I guess you are so far gone that not even remedial English would
> help.

Oh do shut up.

You want I should dig out some of your cockups?


Ben Cramer

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Nov 20, 2008, 1:22:14 AM11/20/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
news:6ohsg6F...@mid.individual.net...

It's simply because you refuse to bend over backward, (and forward) to
swallow his Holocaust(tm) horseshit wholesale.

>

Gord McFee

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Nov 22, 2008, 11:01:10 AM11/22/08
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With you? ROTFL!

Gord McFee

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Nov 22, 2008, 11:02:23 AM11/22/08
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Oh, it has, as you are about to demonstrate.

> I simply have no fucking idea what
> you're blathering about.

That's my point.

Gord McFee

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Nov 22, 2008, 11:05:27 AM11/22/08
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Oh, do grow up. What a twisted, humorless person you are.

> You want I should dig out some of your cockups?

To prove exactly what? That I have screwed up a few times? I've never
denied it. The one who gets all pissy here when anyone says he might be
less than infallible is you.

Ben Cramer

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Nov 22, 2008, 7:29:25 PM11/22/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:63WVk.361139$vK2.1...@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...

You are a class "A" liar old feller. You've gotta be on the payroll. Or
you're married to a yiddess. Or the yids have pictures of you in
compromising situations.

No one willingly sells their soul to evil.


Ben Cramer

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Nov 22, 2008, 7:31:23 PM11/22/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:_5WVk.361140$vK2.2...@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...

There is no humour in you old feller. All I see from you lately is an
increase in your level of hatred and the beginning of terminal insanity.


>
>> You want I should dig out some of your cockups?
>
> To prove exactly what? That I have screwed up a few times? I've never
> denied it. The one who gets all pissy here when anyone says he might be
> less than infallible is you.

You and the salzman trollop need to swallow your own medicine, oh mighty
one.
.

Gord McFee

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Nov 23, 2008, 7:06:17 PM11/23/08
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I thought you just said that Keenan was a class "A" liar and that he was
better than I am. Do you now feel I have caught up to him?

> You've gotta be on the payroll.

What payroll? You know where I work.

> Or you're married to a yiddess.

What is a yiddess?

> Or the yids have pictures of you in compromising situations.

That is really quite funny.

> No one willingly sells their soul to evil.

You should read Faust.

Gord McFee

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Nov 23, 2008, 7:09:30 PM11/23/08
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I'm actually a fun-loving guy with a great sense of humour. However the
filth in this newsgroup does not however inspire hilarity. You in
particular fill that bill. And it is a pity.

>>> You want I should dig out some of your cockups?
>> To prove exactly what? That I have screwed up a few times? I've
>> never denied it. The one who gets all pissy here when anyone says
>> he might be less than infallible is you.
>
> You and the salzman trollop need to swallow your own medicine, oh
> mighty one.

More nonsense from the master of non sequitur.

Sara Salzman

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Nov 23, 2008, 10:24:15 PM11/23/08
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In article <DemWk.256093$1p1.1...@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com>,
Gord McFee <gord....@rogers.com> wrote:

Or at least listen to it. The new two-CD set with Randy Newman's full
version and a second version of demos is brilliant. I especially loved
"Dance of the Protestants."

Although in deference to Gord, I must say "Northern Boy," the duet
between God (James Taylor) and the Devil (Randy Newman) is delightfully
funny.

--
"I don't know" can be a very bad answer when it is disingenuous.
You can't answer "I don't know if that happened" about the Holocaust.

- Penn Jillette, 7/3/08

Ben Cramer

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Nov 24, 2008, 1:54:33 AM11/24/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:DemWk.256093$1p1.1...@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...

You're on a par.


>
>> You've gotta be on the payroll.
>
> What payroll? You know where I work.
>
>> Or you're married to a yiddess.
>
> What is a yiddess?

Playing the dumb card now, huh?


>
>> Or the yids have pictures of you in compromising situations.
>
> That is really quite funny.
>
>> No one willingly sells their soul to evil.
>
> You should read Faust.

Oh, I have.

Ben Cramer

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Nov 24, 2008, 1:55:57 AM11/24/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:EhmWk.256107$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...

You apparently delude yourself.

You support the most dreadful, dishonest, manipulative pack of cunts ever
foist upon humanity.


>
>>>> You want I should dig out some of your cockups?
>>> To prove exactly what? That I have screwed up a few times? I've
>>> never denied it. The one who gets all pissy here when anyone says
>>> he might be less than infallible is you.
>>
>> You and the salzman trollop need to swallow your own medicine, oh
>> mighty one.
>
> More nonsense from the master of non sequitur.

More attempted supremacism from the little old man who assumes a mantel of
superiority over all others.


Ben Cramer

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Nov 24, 2008, 1:58:14 AM11/24/08
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"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:catamont-BAF252...@news-40.giganews.com...

No thank you. I don't find opera particularly entertaining.

Now if they could only keep the caterwauling shielas out of it ........

Gord McFee

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:27:43 PM11/24/08
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I'll have to check it out.

Gord McFee

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:28:50 PM11/24/08
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WTG Pat.

>>> You've gotta be on the payroll.
>> What payroll? You know where I work.
>>
>>> Or you're married to a yiddess.
>> What is a yiddess?
>
> Playing the dumb card now, huh?

Evasion noted.

>>> Or the yids have pictures of you in compromising situations.
>> That is really quite funny.
>>
>>> No one willingly sells their soul to evil.
>> You should read Faust.
>
> Oh, I have.

You clearly didn't understand what you read.

Gord McFee

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:30:07 PM11/24/08
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On 11/24/2008 1:55 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:

[...]

> More attempted supremacism from the little old man who assumes a mantel of
> superiority over all others.

I assume nothing.

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 24, 2008, 11:35:36 PM11/24/08
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"Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> wrote in message
news:VqudnXqtUJYPzbfU...@giganews.com...

Welll then, you're in luck, because Randy Newman's Faust isn't an opera.

It's a musical, and the differences between the two are significant enough
to generate two classifications.

Hope this helps.

-pk

Ben Cramer

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:01:46 AM11/25/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:wiKWk.335560$5p1.1...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...

On your part - yes.


>
>>>> Or the yids have pictures of you in compromising situations.
>>> That is really quite funny.
>>>
>>>> No one willingly sells their soul to evil.
>>> You should read Faust.
>>
>> Oh, I have.
>
> You clearly didn't understand what you read.

More dishonesty from the silly old tosser.


Ben Cramer

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:02:37 AM11/25/08
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"Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:JjKWk.335565$5p1.3...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...

> On 11/24/2008 1:55 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> More attempted supremacism from the little old man who assumes a mantel
>> of superiority over all others.
>
> I assume nothing.

But you do.

You assume the Holocaust(tm) occurred a la the yid version. That's just one
institutionalised lie you "assume" is true.


Ben Cramer

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:03:18 AM11/25/08
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"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> wrote in message
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It does indeed.

I'll check it out.

First indication of a soprano though, it's all over.

Sara Salzman

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Nov 25, 2008, 6:48:01 AM11/25/08
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In article <EN-dnda1qpqVzbfU...@giganews.com>,

Not over all other, just over you, Mr. Cramer. And considering what a
foul vessel of hatred you are, most people can safely assume the same.

Sara Salzman

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Nov 25, 2008, 6:49:25 AM11/25/08
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In article <VqudnXqtUJYPzbfU...@giganews.com>,

"Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> wrote:

Another idiotic comment from the ignorant.

Randy Newman doesn't write opera, idiot.

Sara Salzman

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Nov 25, 2008, 6:50:17 AM11/25/08
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In article <Kp6dnZ5catClPrbU...@giganews.com>,

I don't believe Bonnie Raitt would ever qualify as a soprano.


>
>
>
> >
> > -pk
> >
> >>
> >> Now if they could only keep the caterwauling shielas out of it ........
> >
> >

--

Heinrich

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Nov 25, 2008, 7:08:15 AM11/25/08
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"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> schreef in bericht
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i happen to kjnow mr.cramer as a nice decent person so speak for yourself
woman. i swuggest you start knitting a sweater for ther winter and stay away
fromn your computer for a while

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 25, 2008, 11:47:49 AM11/25/08
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"Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> wrote in message
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I can't speak to that, but certain periods of American popular music relied
heavily on male falsetto voices.

-pk

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 25, 2008, 1:55:36 PM11/25/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in
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>
> "Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> schreef in bericht
> news:catamont-9E82CD...@news-40.giganews.com...
>> In article <EN-dnda1qpqVzbfU...@giganews.com>,
>> "Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:EhmWk.256107$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> > On 11/22/2008 7:31 PM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:_5WVk.361140$vK2.2...@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >>> On 11/20/2008 1:21 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>> news:09KUk.265711$4p1....@en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >>>>> On 11/18/2008 2:02 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>> news:0ToUk.343289$C65.1...@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >>>>>>> On 11/17/2008 2:32 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>>>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message

>>> >>>>>>>>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868-9dd4-edfb477c3f51
@z6g2000pre.googleg
>>> >>>>>>>>>> roups.c om...


that speaks volumes about your (lack of)character

Sara Salzman

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Nov 25, 2008, 9:37:29 PM11/25/08
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In article <6p285qF...@mid.individual.net>,
"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote:

I suggest that you work on your spelling, typing, and grammar.

Heinrich

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Nov 26, 2008, 1:08:54 AM11/26/08
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
news:Xns9B616F2591AC3T...@87.106.137.111...

e4xplain yourse4lf, sofar i am still missing an explanation from your side
as to the reasons why you dislike mr cramer so much

Heinrich

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Nov 26, 2008, 1:09:39 AM11/26/08
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"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> schreef in bericht
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you are not in a position to sughgest anything, my dear

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 26, 2008, 3:45:33 AM11/26/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in
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You mistake genuine concern for anger, frustration, dislike. Those are
negationist character flaws. "My side" only has sadness for him. If "your
side" would only show the same concern, I'm sure he would live a healthier
life. But then so would you.

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 26, 2008, 3:46:06 AM11/26/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in
news:6p47hiF...@mid.individual.net:

>
> "Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> schreef in bericht
> news:catamont-0382EF...@news-40.giganews.com...
>> In article <6p285qF...@mid.individual.net>,
>> "Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote:
>>
>>> "Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> schreef in bericht
>>> news:catamont-9E82CD...@news-40.giganews.com...
>>> > In article <EN-dnda1qpqVzbfU...@giganews.com>,
>>> > "Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:EhmWk.256107$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >> > On 11/22/2008 7:31 PM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:_5WVk.361140$vK2.2...@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >> >>> On 11/20/2008 1:21 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>> news:09KUk.265711$4p1....@en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >> >>>>> On 11/18/2008 2:02 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>>>> news:0ToUk.343289$C65.1...@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >> >>>>>>> On 11/17/2008 2:32 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>>>>>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message

>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868-9dd4-edfb477c3f51
@z6g2000pre.goog
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> legroup s.c


Why are you so frustrated?

Ben Cramer

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Nov 26, 2008, 4:54:45 AM11/26/08
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"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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No hatred in me, fat slag. I hate no one or anything.

Ben Cramer

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Nov 26, 2008, 4:55:29 AM11/26/08
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"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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Is it?

>
> Randy Newman doesn't write opera, idiot.

I was not aware of that. Someone set me straight on that.

Ben Cramer

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Nov 26, 2008, 4:56:18 AM11/26/08
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"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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Certainly not. She's one very talented wench.


Ben Cramer

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Nov 26, 2008, 4:57:05 AM11/26/08
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"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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I suggest you've just reinforced Heinrich's very appropriate summation of
you, salzman.

RJ11

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Nov 26, 2008, 5:36:49 AM11/26/08
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In article <zcudnXgUyuJ6gbDU...@giganews.com>,

Ben Cramer <ben'sal...@around.com> wrote:

> I hate no one or anything.

Some typical rants from the Australian neo-Nazi activist posting
as "Cramer":

"You seem to think I am a backer of these Islamic monkeys. You
couldn't be further from the truth." -- Posted by "Ben Cramer",
Message-ID:<e2hlgb$opo$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>

"Poofters should be fucked and burned." -- Posted by "Ben Cramer",
Message-ID:
<42942e83$0$247$61c6...@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>

"Women like you and the cohen cunt should be treated like
gongs. Given a bloody good whack from time to time, to keep
you in tune." -- Posted by "Ben Cramer", Message-ID:
<2JednRLNN48kYADY...@giganews.com>.

"Yids are lice laddie" -- Posted by "Ben Cramer", Message-ID
<dr8uf6$5vp$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>.


RJ.

Sara Salzman

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Nov 26, 2008, 6:53:58 AM11/26/08
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In article <de-dna9dPfbZgLDU...@giganews.com>,

Yes, she is. And she is the female lead in Randy Newman's Faust. No
indication of a soprano anywhere.

Ben Cramer

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Nov 26, 2008, 7:04:39 AM11/26/08
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"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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I've just ordered the CDs from Amazon.

Most of the artists featuring are top class. I didn't even know this musical
existed. Could be something to do with living in the Antipodes.


Heinrich

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Nov 26, 2008, 7:22:03 AM11/26/08
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
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that is something i did not ask for. i asked your personal motivesw for
disliking mr,.cramer so stop talking about your side

Heinrich

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Nov 26, 2008, 7:23:14 AM11/26/08
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
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mbecause i am sick and tiured of all tyhose holocaust tigers as if we are
still living in the passed. they should get a live and realize we are now
living in 2008

Heinrich

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Nov 26, 2008, 8:01:00 AM11/26/08
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"Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> schreef in bericht
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salzmann does not realize that nobody fucks an aryan at least not one of
her kind

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 26, 2008, 2:47:02 PM11/26/08
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"Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> wrote in
news:28mdnXwBaN3EprDU...@giganews.com:

>>> >> >>>> >>>>> news:IUoUk.343290$C65.136470@en-nntp-
01.dc1.easynews.com.
>>> >> >>>> >>>>> ..

>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> On 11/17/2008 4:07 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> "Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> news:6ocq2tF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> "Ben Cramer" <benis...@around.com> schreef in
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> bericht
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> news:S6udnaiL36Wfg7zU...@giganews.com...
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> message
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1.75818@en-nntp-
08.dc1.easynews.c
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> om...

>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2008 12:41 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "jgarbuz" <jga...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> news:57f82c51-1ad7-4868-9dd4-edfb477c3f51
@z6g2000pr
>>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> e.googl egr

Could be more like you living in the past

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 26, 2008, 2:50:44 PM11/26/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in
news:6p4tbqF...@mid.individual.net:

>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1.75818@en-nntp-

Of course not. You are a christian and know nothing of concern for others.


i asked your personal motivesw for
> disliking mr,.cramer so stop talking about your side
>

As I explained, no personal motives, just overwhelming sadness for his
condition. It's a shame that he was abused as a child. It's even more of a
shame that you have so little compassion for him.

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 26, 2008, 2:51:29 PM11/26/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in news:6p4te1F62edfU1
@mid.individual.net:

>
> "I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
> news:Xns9B627CFD5DB8Th...@87.106.137.111...
>> "Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in
>> news:6p47hiF...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>>
>>> "Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> schreef in bericht
>>> news:catamont-0382EF...@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <6p285qF...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> "Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> schreef in bericht
>>>>> news:catamont-9E82CD...@news-40.giganews.com...
>>>>> > In article <EN-dnda1qpqVzbfU...@giganews.com>,
>>>>> > "Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:EhmWk.256107$1p1....@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>> >> > On 11/22/2008 7:31 PM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >> >> news:_5WVk.361140$vK2.2...@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>> >> >>> On 11/20/2008 1:21 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >> >>>> news:09KUk.265711$4p1....@en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>> >> >>>>> On 11/18/2008 2:02 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>> >> >>>>>
>>>>> >> >>>>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message

>>>>> >> >>>>>> news:0ToUk.343289$C65.184587@en-nntp-


01.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 11/17/2008 2:32 AM, Ben Cramer wrote:
>>>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> "Gord McFee" <gord....@rogers.com> wrote in message

>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> news:GXMSk.247481$1p1.75818@en-nntp-

And your tv has no on/off switch or tuner?

Heinrich

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Nov 27, 2008, 1:06:20 AM11/27/08
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
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australians are called the germans of the pacific so mr cramer will be able
to deal with it all by himself. but tell me is it not frustrated for you
that he never rep-lies to what you say to him?

Heinrich

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Nov 27, 2008, 1:08:40 AM11/27/08
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
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whyen i watch television or listen to the radio i donot want to listen or
watch okld people still whining about aqn evenbt which took place a long
time ago. i heaR THOSE STORIES ALL OF MY LIVE ALREADY

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 27, 2008, 1:46:59 AM11/27/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in
news:6p6rniF...@mid.individual.net:

>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> news:0ToUk.343289$C65.184587@en-nntp-
01.dc1.easynews.com..
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> .

Oh, but he does.

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 27, 2008, 1:49:23 AM11/27/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in news:6p6rruF6geheU1
@mid.individual.net:

So you just turn the tv off or change the channel. No one is forcing you
to listen to anything. Same thing here. No one is forcing you to read a
single post here. The fact that you wish to demonstrate your amazing
inability to control yourself is both very sad and at the same time
hilarious.

OTOH, your posts are the same shit the nazi's were doing 70 years ago, so
congratulations.

Ben Cramer

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Nov 27, 2008, 1:49:41 AM11/27/08
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
news:6p4vksF...@mid.individual.net...

Salzman seems to think she stands to the right side of her fictional god
thing. She's so far up herself, that everytime she farts, she chokes.

>

heinrich

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Nov 27, 2008, 3:12:18 AM11/27/08
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
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no he does not as far as i can ascertain

heinrich

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Nov 27, 2008, 3:13:57 AM11/27/08
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
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it makes me feel good that i bring some joy into your life

heinrich

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Nov 27, 2008, 3:14:51 AM11/27/08
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"Ben Cramer" <ben'sal...@around.com> schreef in bericht
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LOL

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 27, 2008, 4:24:28 AM11/27/08
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"heinrich" <hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in news:492e5678$0$9676$2e0edba0
@news.tweakdsl.nl:

>>> australians are called the germans of the pacific so mr cramer will be
>>> able to deal with it all by himself. but tell me is it not frustrated
>>> for you that he never rep-lies to what you say to him?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh, but he does.
> no he does not as far as i can ascertain
>

You've already established that he is a liar. He responds via his numerous
froggies...and he responds to me via you when he tries to say something snide
to you about me via my posts to you.

Remember, cramer is always lying.

I'll Always Be Here

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Nov 27, 2008, 4:24:59 AM11/27/08
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"heinrich" <hein...@ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in news:492e56db$0$9690$2e0edba0
@news.tweakdsl.nl:

>> So you just turn the tv off or change the channel. No one is forcing you
>> to listen to anything. Same thing here. No one is forcing you to read a
>> single post here. The fact that you wish to demonstrate your amazing
>> inability to control yourself is both very sad and at the same time
>> hilarious.
>>
>> OTOH, your posts are the same shit the nazi's were doing 70 years ago, so
>> congratulations.
> it makes me feel good that i bring some joy into your life

And cash

heinrich

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Nov 27, 2008, 6:05:30 AM11/27/08
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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
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lol

heinrich

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"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> schreef in bericht
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explain yourself please

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