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Dave U. Random

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:12:05 PM11/18/09
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Liberation Day photos of Dachau taken by the US Signal Corps show
hundreds of relaxed inmates, milling around and ignoring 3,000 loafs of
military bread delivered by American lorry, but agile and clamoring for
American cigarettes dispensed by US Army officers.

The Liberation Day photos and film footage prove that there was no
starvation at the Nazi concentration camps, and that the low level of
extreme emaciation from the diarrheal dehydration was caused by the
premeditated bombing of the German power stations and especially water
filtration plants.

BDK

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Nov 19, 2009, 5:39:28 AM11/19/09
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In article <cb5975304ff66003...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>,
anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net says...

BWHAHAHAA! That's hilarious.
--

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.

RJ11

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:29:23 AM11/19/09
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Kenneth McVay OBC

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:03:34 PM11/19/09
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>Liberation Day photos of Dachau taken by the US Signal Corps show
>hundreds of relaxed inmates, milling around and ignoring 3,000 loafs of
>military bread delivered by American lorry, but agile and clamoring for
>American cigarettes dispensed by US Army officers.

Which photos? Where can they be found?

Tell us how to explain this US Army photograph, given your
assertions above:

http://nizkor.org/hweb/camps/

>The Liberation Day photos and film footage prove that there was no
>starvation at the Nazi concentration camps, and that the low level of
>extreme emaciation from the diarrheal dehydration was caused by the
>premeditated bombing of the German power stations and especially water
>filtration plants.

Perhaps you would like to explain this footage, then:

http://nizkor.org/hweb/camps/bergen-belsen/Bergen-Belsen-00.html

...or perhaps you wish to claim that Bergen-Belsen was not, er, a
Nazi Concentration Camp?

--
"I am not stressed out since I can analyze
your holohoax in my urine." (Kurt Knoll,
Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

ZuLu

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:55:41 PM11/19/09
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RJ11 escribi�:
<Faurisson's Interview in Tehran>

...

Q- Here, in Tehran, you began your talk with a word of warning about the photographs
said to be of Nazi atrocities. Why?

A- Because people�s minds are steeped in them. In the business of lying propaganda
nothing�s more simple and effective than the use of photographs. You don�t even need
any complicated montages. It�s enough to show images of the sick, the dying or the
dead and, in relation to these, speak of the killed, the murdered or the slaughtered.
Ordinary decent folk will be taken in. They�ll feel revulsion, indignation, anger.
They�ll no longer see what�s in front of them (the dead) but only what�s been put
into their minds (the killed). They�ll become fixated on it. They won�t take time to
think things over. In the area of false massacres the procedure stays unchanged. The
alleged massacres at Auschwitz are, from this point of view, comparable, relatively
speaking, to all the alleged massacres that may be conveniently blamed on the
defeated side of any conflict, be it at Andersonville (alleged extermination camp of
the American Civil War), Timosoara (Romania) or Kuwait City. Corpses of women and
children will do the trick especially well.

It�s the procedure that, in 1945, was resorted to by the Americans and the British,
on the one hand, and by the Soviets on the other hand. Teams of photographers or
cameramen enter such or such German camp at the moment of its liberation. The first
step is to have everything photographed or filmed. The second is to set aside for
later use, after selection, only the most pitiful or revolting images, notably from
the hospital barracks or their vicinity; pains will particularly have been taken to
get images of the typhus-sufferers, veritable walking skeletons. The third step is to
prepare commentary that will lead the public to believe the German commandants and
guards had purposely reduced those poor wretches to such a state, as they were quite
simply carrying out a policy of physical extermination of the detainees. Exceptions
aside, the photographs of some very large groups of healthy-looking inmates, jubilant
at being freed, will be hidden away. It will not be revealed that, in these camps,
there could well exist for the benefit or use of the inmates, as was the case at
Auschwitz, vast kitchens and all sorts of sanitary, medical, dental or surgical
facilities, bakeries, post offices, workshops, places for artistic or musical
recreation whose mere presence renders implausible, at the least, the existence of
any intent whatsoever on the part of the Germans to exterminate those inmates. On the
contrary, with the propagandists, a scalpel will fraudulently be shown as proof that
people were killed or tortured; a disinfection gas chamber will become proof that
people, and not vermin, were gassed; a can of Zyklon-B, a disinfection or
anti-infestation substance (Entseuchung, Entwesung) that was, accordingly, used to
preserve lives against certain deadly diseases or epidemics, will become proof that
the Germans employed it to suppress human life. The real horrors of all those camps
were the overcrowding, the close quarters and the violence incidental to detention in
such circumstances (�men are like apples: the more they�re heaped on top of each
other, the more they rot�), the prison violence, the hunger, the harsh weather, the
diseases, the epidemics. Revisionist author and activist Paul Rassinier told of all
this very well indeed. Thus, at times, many inmates were going through hell.

Q- You brought up, in particular, the British propaganda about Bergen-Belsen�

A- Yes. Winston Churchill�s compatriots achieved quite some feat there. It�s what I
call the �Bergen-Belsen bulldozer job�. In April 1945, that camp, overcrowded,
ravaged by epidemics coming from the East, famished, deprived of water in recent days
due to the Anglo-American bombing raids, had become a veritable den of infection. For
this reason the Germans sent out a delegation to Montgomery�s approaching troops to
warn them of the state of things there (and probably of the risks for everyone,
including the civilian population, should the internees all be immediately released
without any screening). The British agreed to cooperate with the Wehrmacht, but not
with the SS, in order to attempt to remedy the situation. Then they saw fit to open
the numerous common graves, count the bodies and finally, pile those bodies into
great, deep ditches. To push all the corpses towards the ditches they used a
bulldozer. In a film shot on site we are shown the bulldozer in action. A selection
of these images has been passed on to posterity, notably thanks to the documentary
(documendaciary?) Night and Fog (1955). Millions of viewers have believed that here
they�ve seen proof of the Germans� killing their captives, day after day, on an
industrial scale. Very rare indeed must be those who�ve been able to make out that
the bulldozer driver is a British soldier and not a German soldier. In 1978 a book
published in South Africa with the aim of thwarting any revision of the �Holocaust�
presented a still photo of the bulldozer and the bodies but not without �cutting off�
the driver�s head: the obvious intent was to have us believe the driver was German.

Moreover, with time, in the minds of some, amongst whom Maurice Druon of the Acad�mie
fran�aise, �that� bulldozer, in the singular, has, of course, become �those�
bulldozers. One could go on and on listing the very crudest procedures of this
propaganda rooted in atrocity stories. Thus it is that we�re cunningly shown piles of
shoes and eyeglasses or heaps of hair as if they were evidence that the people they
came from were gassed; here the propagandists are sure to avoid reminding us that, in
a Europe subjected to blockade and reduced to general penury, nothing was thrown
away: everything was recovered and recycled, including hair, which served a
particular purpose in the textile industry. There were countless workshops recycling
leather, glass, metal or wood, both in the camps and in the towns and villages. The
�suitcase job� is also worth noting. A very well-known photograph shows us, at
Auschwitz, suitcases carefully stacked and presented as the pieces of luggage on
which each doomed owner had taken the trouble to write his or her name and address
before being sent to the gas chamber. However, a close look shows that the names and
addresses are all written in the same hand and with the same white substance.
Consequently, here it is a question, in reality, of a task performed at the entrance
of every detention centre: new prisoners� belongings are tagged and registered by the
prison clerks. Thus had Marcel Bloch-Dassault, long after the war, been able to
receive from Germany the wallet confiscated from him upon entry at Buchenwald. One
evening he could be seen, on French television, exhibiting that wallet, opening it
and taking out the four-leaf clover that was in it at his arrival in the camp. That
said, there�s no doubt the German authorities must have drawn from the vast stores
and confiscated effects to distribute some of them to the civilian population ravaged
by the bombings and deprived of everything.

Q- Wasn�t it at Bergen-Belsen that Anne Frank and her sister Margot died?

A- Yes, in late February or early March of 1945. They died of typhus. Still long
after the war the official truth had it that that they�d been gassed at Auschwitz, a
camp where they effectively spent some time before their transfer to Bergen-Belsen.
Their fate makes them deserving of pity. But a good deal more pitiable still was the
fate of the German civilian populations killed or burned alive by the Anglo-American
bomber squadrons. A German man had the idea, after the war, to consult a book with
the register of those killed in the bombing of the city of W�rzburg in the night of
March 24, 1945 alone; in that list of more than 5,000 he noted, I think, 128 women or
girls bearing the Christian name Anne or a closely associated one. There�s hardly
much talk of those women or girls systematically killed solely for being German, is
there?

...

</Faurisson's Interview in Tehran>

Complete article, a must read

Robert Faurisson interviewed in Tehran
Tehran, December 13, 2006

Interview with Professor Robert Faurisson at the Guest House of the Ministry of
Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic of Iran

http://www.tellingfilms.co.uk/faurisson-iranintvw.htm

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:26:42 PM11/19/09
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"ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
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> RJ11 escribi�:> A- Because people�s minds are steeped in them. In the business of lying
> propaganda
> nothing�s more simple and effective than the use of

... of a Government controlled press. Such as is found in Iran.

One notes that the Iranian government showed its true position on Holocaust
history when it held a "conference" and prohibited, by force of arms, the
attendance of those who have direct experience with the history.

Might I suggest that you need much better role models?

-pk


RJ11

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:36:38 AM11/20/09
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In article <4b05...@news.x-privat.org>, ZuLu <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote:

(snip "Holocaust revisionism" drivel)

Deal with the facts, nazi kook.

"That we sentence 1.2 million Jews to die of hunger should be
noted only marginally" -- Hans Frank, the Governor-General of the
"Generalgouvernement" (part of Nazi-occupied Poland), speaking about
the Jews under his jurisdiction, on 24 August 1942. Source: "Nazi
Conspiracy and Aggression", Vol. IV, page 900.


RJ.

ZuLu

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:59:37 PM11/20/09
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Patrick Keenan escribi�:

> "ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b05...@news.x-privat.org...
>> RJ11 escribi�:>> A- Because people�s minds are steeped in them. In the business of lying
>> propaganda
>> nothing�s more simple and effective than the use of

>
> ... of a Government controlled press. Such as is found in Iran.
>
> One notes that the Iranian government showed its true position on Holocaust
> history when it held a "conference" and prohibited, by force of arms, the
> attendance of those who have direct experience with the history.

I suppose you have some evidence of that allegation....

ZuLu

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:59:58 PM11/20/09
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RJ11 escribi�:

ALL DEBUNKED

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 20, 2009, 11:20:52 PM11/20/09
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"ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
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> Patrick Keenan escribi�:

>> "ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b05...@news.x-privat.org...
>>> RJ11 escribi�:

>>>> In article <cb5975304ff66003...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>,
>>>> Dave U. Random <anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Liberation Day photos of Dachau taken by the US Signal Corps show
>>>>> hundreds of relaxed inmates,
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen01.jpg
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen02.jpg
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg
>>>> http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/dachau-corpses.GIF
>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg
>>>>
>>> <Faurisson's Interview in Tehran>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Q- Here, in Tehran, you began your talk with a word of warning about the
>>> photographs
>>> said to be of Nazi atrocities. Why?
>>>
>>> A- Because people�s minds are steeped in them. In the business of lying
>>> propaganda
>>> nothing�s more simple and effective than the use of

>>
>> ... of a Government controlled press. Such as is found in Iran.
>>
>> One notes that the Iranian government showed its true position on
>> Holocaust history when it held a "conference" and prohibited, by force of
>> arms, the attendance of those who have direct experience with the
>> history.
>
> I suppose you have some evidence of that allegation....

Yep, and you've been shown it before.


ZuLu

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:16:53 PM11/21/09
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Patrick Keenan escribi�:

> "ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
> news:4b06f535$1...@news.x-privat.org...
>> Patrick Keenan escribi�:

>>> "ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4b05...@news.x-privat.org...
>>>> RJ11 escribi�:

>>>>> In article <cb5975304ff66003...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>,
>>>>> Dave U. Random <anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Liberation Day photos of Dachau taken by the US Signal Corps show
>>>>>> hundreds of relaxed inmates,
>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen01.jpg
>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen02.jpg
>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg
>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg
>>>>> http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/dachau-corpses.GIF
>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg
>>>>>
>>>> <Faurisson's Interview in Tehran>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Q- Here, in Tehran, you began your talk with a word of warning about the
>>>> photographs
>>>> said to be of Nazi atrocities. Why?
>>>>
>>>> A- Because people�s minds are steeped in them. In the business of lying
>>>> propaganda
>>>> nothing�s more simple and effective than the use of

>>> ... of a Government controlled press. Such as is found in Iran.
>>>
>>> One notes that the Iranian government showed its true position on
>>> Holocaust history when it held a "conference" and prohibited, by force of
>>> arms, the attendance of those who have direct experience with the
>>> history.
>> I suppose you have some evidence of that allegation....
>
> Yep, and you've been shown it before.
>

NOPE, try again.

Patrick Keenan

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"ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
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> Patrick Keenan escribi�:

>> "ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b06f535$1...@news.x-privat.org...
>>> Patrick Keenan escribi�:

>>>> "ZuLu" <Zu...@gloogloo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b05...@news.x-privat.org...
>>>>> RJ11 escribi�:

>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <cb5975304ff66003...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>,
>>>>>> Dave U. Random <anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Liberation Day photos of Dachau taken by the US Signal Corps show
>>>>>>> hundreds of relaxed inmates,
>>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen01.jpg
>>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen02.jpg
>>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg
>>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg
>>>>>> http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/dachau-corpses.GIF
>>>>>> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>> <Faurisson's Interview in Tehran>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Q- Here, in Tehran, you began your talk with a word of warning about
>>>>> the photographs
>>>>> said to be of Nazi atrocities. Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> A- Because people�s minds are steeped in them. In the business of
>>>>> lying propaganda
>>>>> nothing�s more simple and effective than the use of

>>>> ... of a Government controlled press. Such as is found in Iran.
>>>>
>>>> One notes that the Iranian government showed its true position on
>>>> Holocaust history when it held a "conference" and prohibited, by force
>>>> of arms, the attendance of those who have direct experience with the
>>>> history.
>>> I suppose you have some evidence of that allegation....
>>
>> Yep, and you've been shown it before.
>>
>
> NOPE, try again.

Yes, you have. Go look.


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Patrick Keenan

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:42:26 PM11/22/09
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"Johannes von Ebersdorf" <eber...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you have "proof" of this, Patrick, it would be truly amazing, since
> it would be the first time you have proof of anything that has been
> discussed on this newsgroup. You specialize in babble and hot air.
> Somebody such as Zulu is rather too intelligent to be tricked by that
> sort of simple-minded ruse.

It's actually the reality, and you can look it up too. It's not like it's
hard to do.

I'll Always Be 23/11/09

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In article
<j6OdnTaHWPgcapTWnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@supern
ews.com>,
"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null>
wrote:

It must be hard to do. I don't believe
I've ever seen him provide any proof of
his ridiculous assertions (bodies shrunk
to the size of dolls, fireballs 4 miles
high, etc)

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