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Michael Ejercito

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Jan 14, 2012, 12:02:30 PM1/14/12
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Stop playing defense

By Ted Belman

When is Israel going to wise up? Israel’s preferred policy is to play
defense and make as few waves as possible.

Whether its Obama insisting on a building freeze, or negotiations
based on ’67 lines with swaps or the EU encouraging the Arabs to
violate the Oslo Accords and build in Area C, Israel is always
reacting. Thus when we wait to be diplomatically attacked we end up
fighting on our own territory.

It used to be that we had a policy of fighting on the other guys
territory which means pre-emptive action.

In diplomatic terms this means claiming ownership of the other guys
territory or at least what he thinks is his, and building on it. Let
the other guys, the Arabs, the EU and the US play defense.

For example if we claimed sovereignty over Area C, our enemies would
be concerned with undermining such contention. As it is we have
conceded too much territory in negotiations and we are debating over
whether we get to keep 1% or 6. This is madness and idiocy.

Erekat: Freeze Construction or Talks End

“The Amman talks are intended to obtain a colony freeze and the
use of the 1967 lines as a reference for any future talks, and will be
given a chance to succeed until January 26,” Erakat told AFP.

PLO Official: Israel Wants 6-9% of Yesha, and Jerusalem

Topaz

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Jan 14, 2012, 2:07:22 PM1/14/12
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US aid to Israel - Tax Dollars Soaked in Blood
by Susan Abulhawa

With 400 Palestinians killed and over 10,000 wounded (most of them
severely), the Israeli lobby is requesting a new pile of American tax
dollars ($450 million) for 'emergency aid.' Part of this money is
being requested to compensate Israel for withdrawing from a 20 year
occupation of Southern Lebanon.

Excuse me!

Israel invaded Lebanon, used the world banned cluster bombs to kill
20,000 civilians (stories that would make your skin crawl), destroyed
the countries infrastructure and occupied its people for two decades.
Now they want to be compensated for finally obeying international law
and getting out of land where they have no business being? If anyone
ought to be compensated, it's the Lebanese people. At any rate, its
not the responsibility of the American tax payer to pay up.

Israel is an outlaw state in violation of numerous UN Resolution and
various tenets of international laws. Congress should stop behaving as
though we're some kind of Israeli colony bowing to her every whim.
Israel, whose population is 0.1% of the total world population gets
roughly one-third of all US foreign aid. In addition to the
$5,000,000,000 in aid, Israel enjoys the benefits of a whole lot more
US tax payer money. For example, there are special "gifts" like the
Arrow Missile and Levi Fighter, totaling $1.3 billion. Tax payers must
also pay interest on money borrowed for Israel's grants-- about $500
million per year. Private donations to Israel are tax-deductible and
total about $1 billion annually. This does not include the Israeli
bonds sold in the US for $500 million each year.

Despite US restrictions on using money to build illegal settlements on
Palestinian land, Israel has spent hundreds of millions of our dollars
importing Jews from across the world, confiscating Palestinian land
and demolishing their homes to make way for brand new settlements for
the new arrivals.

That's not all. The US also pays Egypt $2.1 billion/year for signing a
peace treaty with Israel and is asked to pay umpteen billions of tax
payer dollars every time Israel notions that is will consider a
pull-back from occupied territories. For example, during peace talks
with Syria, Israel demanded that the US foot a bill of $17 billion for
its withdrawal from the Golan Heights, where it has illegally been
occupying Syrian land and stealing Syrian resources for over 33 years.
Basically, the US taxpayers have to pay Israel in order for Israel to
obey international law and respect the sovereignty of other nations.

At the same time Congress cut the welfare budget by $5.3 billions, aid
to Israel that year was $5.2 billion. Indeed, as filmmaker Tom Hayes
said: "from the mouths of America's poor onto the necks of
Palestinians."

The so called "peace process" is sure to cost us yet more tens of
billions of dollars in payment for Israel's insatiable appetite for
Arab soil and its unrelenting thievery of other's resources. Try
getting an iota of that money for your state. You're lucky if you can
hold onto school lunch programs.

Of course, some of that money trickles back to the US in the form of
campaign funding. These campaign "donations" account for Israel's
power over US foreign policies.

So, what has Israel done for us?

Israel has spied on the US. By the way, a contribution to the 'free
Jonathan Pollard' fund is tax deductible. According to the CIA, Israel
commits industrial espionage against American businesses. They have
exported sensitive US technology to other countries, some of which are
potentially hostile to the U.S., in direct contravention of U.S. law.

In 1967 Israel attacked the USS Liberty killing 34 American crewmen
and wounding 171. Despite thirty three years of unrelenting pleas from
the survivors of that ship, Congress will not afford our servicemen
the
decency of an investigation and has refused to hold a Congressional
hearing for an act of aggression against Americans in a time of peace
despite astounding evidence. Maybe they will when there are no more
survivors to speak and the only testimonies will come from
Israeli-chosen "witnesses."
http://www.halcyon.com/jim/ussliberty/

Israel has a healthy economy and gets piles of money and other aid
from Germany every year. If this US-Israel marriage is indeed in our
best interest then why do they need such a strong well-funded lobby in
our Congress?

Continuing to be the lone veto that keeps the international community
from investigating Israel's breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention
cannot possibly be in our best interest. Patting Israel on the back
while the rest of the world condemns it's flagrant violations of human
rights does not mesh with the principles on which this country was
founded. Retired Navy Admiral, Thomas Moorer, was quoted in a book by
Paul Findley, former congressman from Illinois, as saying "I've never
seen an president- I don't care who he is- stand up to [the Israelis].
It just boggles your mind*.If the American people understood what a
grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in
arms."



http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com

Ray Fischer

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Jan 15, 2012, 12:07:14 AM1/15/12
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Michael Ejercito <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.israpundit.com/archives/42758
>
>Stop playing defense
>
>By Ted Belman
>
>When is Israel going to wise up? Israel’s preferred policy is to play
>defense and make as few waves as possible.

Such as when the invaded Lebanon, killed thousands of innocent people,
and caused billions of dollars of damage?

>Whether its Obama insisting on a building freeze, or negotiations
>based on ’67 lines with swaps or the EU encouraging the Arabs to
>violate the Oslo Accords and build in Area C, Israel is always
>reacting. Thus when we wait to be diplomatically attacked we end up
>fighting on our own territory.

Would that "fighting" be the murder of people on board ships in
international waters?

>It used to be that we had a policy of fighting on the other guys
>territory which means pre-emptive action.

Murder them first.

>In diplomatic terms this means claiming ownership of the other guys
>territory or at least what he thinks is his, and building on it. Let
>the other guys, the Arabs, the EU and the US play defense.

"Liebensraum" is the word you're looking for.

--
Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
rfis...@sonic.net | Goethe

Yonatan

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Jan 15, 2012, 3:54:00 PM1/15/12
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On Jan 15, 12:07 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> Such as when the invaded Lebanon, killed thousands of innocent people,
> and caused billions of dollars of damage?

Yeah, innocent people, the one's killing and kidnapping ours -
innocent - that's the one.

> Would that "fighting" be the murder of people on board ships in
> international waters?

You forgot the "innocent" word this time - I'm afraid you have to go
into timeout. This is clearly against the leftist's acceptable use
dictionary. Don't let reality get in your way!

Ray Fischer

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Jan 16, 2012, 9:45:52 PM1/16/12
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Yonatan <yona.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 15, 12:07 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Such as when the invaded Lebanon, killed thousands of innocent people,
>> and caused billions of dollars of damage?
>
>Yeah, innocent people, the one's killing and kidnapping ours -

Ah yes, blame entire populations for the actions of a few extremists.

That's how the Nazis killed off millions of Jews.

Michael Ejercito

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Jan 17, 2012, 1:12:26 AM1/17/12
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On Jan 16, 6:45 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> Yonatan  <yona.macca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 15, 12:07 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> Such as when the invaded Lebanon, killed thousands of innocent people,
> >> and caused billions of dollars of damage?
>
> >Yeah, innocent people, the one's killing and kidnapping ours -
>
> Ah yes, blame entire populations for the actions of a few extremists.
Just like how the population of Dresden was blamed for the invasion
of Poland?

Or the population of Tokyo was blamed for the attack on Pearl
Harbor?
>
> That's how the Nazis killed off millions of Jews.
>
You equate the ENDING of war crimes with war crimes.


Michael

Ray Fischer

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Jan 17, 2012, 1:45:16 AM1/17/12
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Michael Ejercito <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 16, 6:45 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Yonatan  <yona.macca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 15, 12:07 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> Such as when the invaded Lebanon, killed thousands of innocent people,
>> >> and caused billions of dollars of damage?
>>
>> >Yeah, innocent people, the one's killing and kidnapping ours -
>>
>> Ah yes, blame entire populations for the actions of a few extremists.
> Just like how the population of Dresden was blamed for the invasion
>of Poland?

No.

> Or the population of Tokyo was blamed for the attack on Pearl
>Harbor?

No.

>> That's how the Nazis killed off millions of Jews.
>>
> You equate the ENDING of war crimes with war crimes.

You demand war crimes.
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