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Michael Ejercito
Oct 5, 2011, 10:18:55 AM10/5/11
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http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
[ISN'T THE ARAB SPRING LOVELY]
by Raymond Ibrahim, Jihad Watch
Historically, non-Muslims whose lands were seized by the jihad had
three choices: conversion, dhimmitude, or death. Today, however, they
have a fourth option largely unavailable to their forbears: quit their
lands of origin—emigrate—the latest testimony to the nature of Islam.
A recent report indicates that unprecedented numbers of Copts, Egypt’s
indigenous Christian population, are emigrating from their homeland in
response to the so-called “Arab spring”:
The Egyptian Union of Human Rights Organizations (EUHRO) published
a report today on emigration of Christians from Egypt, saying that
nearly 100,000 Christians have emigrated since March 2011. The report,
which was sent to the Egyptian cabinet and the Supreme Council of the
Armed Forces (SCAF), warned that this emigration has been prompted by
the escalating intimidation and attacks on Christians by Islamists.
“Copts are not emigrating abroad voluntarily,” said Naguib Gabriell,
the director EUHRO, “they are coerced into that by threats and
intimidation by hard line Salafists, and the lack of protection they
are getting from the Egyptian regime.”
The report goes on to list a number of attacks on Copts and churches—
including the killing of Coptic youth in Moqattam, the Imbaba and
other church attacks—adding “Salafist clerics, who gained political
influence after the January 25 Revolution, have become emboldened,
calling Copts Dhimmis who have to pay the jizya (tax paid by non-
Muslims to the state) because they are not first class citizens and
can never enjoy full citizenship rights, or obtain sensitive posts.”
Indeed, this boldness is a harbinger of things to come—and Copts know
it, hence the emigration. Wagdi Ghoneim, a popular cleric and former
imam in California, recently called Copts “Crusaders” on Al Jazeera—
about the worst thing to call someone in the Muslim world—insisting
that they do not deserve equal rights with Muslims in Egypt, because
they are infidel dhimmis. Likewise, Abu Shadi, a top representative of
the Salafis, told Tahrir News that the Copts must either convert to
Islam, pay jizya and assume inferior status, or die. These are just a
couple of examples of the countless Muslim leaders openly hostile to
Egypt’s native population.
Nor is this phenomenon limited to the Copts of Egypt:
Gabriel sees a parallel with the Christian emigration from Iraq,
Palestine and Lebanon. “After the massacre of the congregation of Our
Lady of Deliverance Church on October 31, 2010, and other attacks in
Iraq, the ratio of Iraqi Christians went down from 8% to 2%; in
Palestine to just .5%, and in Lebanon from 75% to 32%. If emigration
of Christians, who constitute nearly 16% of the Egyptian population,
continues at the present rate, it may reach 250,000 by the end of
2011, and within ten years a third of the Coptic population of Egypt
would be gone.”
Bear in mind these large numbers are not simply indicative of those
who want to emigrate, but those who simply can: not only does it take
years to work out the legalities of emigrating, but many simply cannot
afford it. In other words, if emigration was a simple thing, the
number of Christian emigrants from the Muslim world would be even
higher.
As professor Habib Malik confirms, “It is principally the violence
visited sporadically upon these Christian communities in their native
towns and villages across the Middle East, and the absence of any
reliable means of protection in a region seething with religious
fanaticism and despotic forms of rule, which impels Christians to flee
and not return” (Islamism and the Future of the Christians of the
Middle East, pgs. 36-37).
But it’s more than this; in fact, we are witnessing another
manifestation of history—witnessing firsthand how formerly non-Muslim
lands become Muslim. For just as conversion to Islam (out of force,
out of necessity, out of cynicism) and the outright killing of non-
Muslims saw the ranks of Islam grow, so too does emigration fit in
this same paradigm of Islamization.
Beyond the authoritative primary sources which unequivocally
demonstrate the violent nature of Islam—including history and theology
texts—which many prefer to dismiss as “dead books,” here, then, is yet
another live example. And yet the West’s leaders, from academics to
politicians, will continue insisting that Islam is the “religion of
peace”—testimony to the endemic blindness inflicting this age.
Raymond Ibrahim, an Islam-specialist, is a Shillman Fellow at the
David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle
East Forum.
Muslim Mob Torches Coptic Church in Egypt
GMT 10-1-2011 1:44:22
Assyrian International News Agency
(AINA) — After Friday prayers today, a mob of several thousand Muslims
from the village of Elmarinab in Edfu, Aswan province, demolished and
torched St. George’s church, which was being renovated. The mob
demolished the dome, walls and columns, then went to the church depot
where the lumber to be used for construction was stored and torched
it. The fire lasted 2 hours but the attack continued until 7 PM.
In an interview on Coptic TV channel, Father Salib of St. George’s
Church said “the Imam of one of the village mosques called on the
people to take matter in their own hands, he added. Other witnesses
named the Imam as Sheikh Sabry.
According to eyewitnesses the Muslims also torched a large depot of
electrical goods owned by a Copt, a supermarket and four Coptic homes.
Muslims prevented the fire brigade from entering the village. Security
forces, which were present, “stood there watching,” said Mr.Michael
Ramzy, a social worker at the church.
Dr. Naguib Gabriel, head of the Egyptian Union of Human rights
Organizations send an urgent message to field Marchall Tantawi to save
the Copts in Egypt. “The Copts, their lives and their churches are in
danger,” he said.
Attorney Mamdouh Nakhla, head of Al-Kalema human rights organization
condemned Muslims taking the law in their own hands. He said “if the
Egyptian Government is unable to protect its citizens, then the
civilized international society should step in immediately to stop
this human tragedy.”
The Media denied the incident. Mostafa el Sayed, Governor of Aswan,
appeared on State TV tonight and denied any church being torched. He
said it was a “guest home” and not a church. El Sayed said he gave his
permission for the building to be 9 meters high, but the church
contractor made it 13 meters high. “The contractor was slow in
removing the 4 meters, so the Muslim youths took the matter into their
hand.” He said the fire was in a depot of the church which had the
construction lumber.
He said that both parties are at fault, the Christians for exceeding
the height and the Muslims for taking matters into their own hands. He
added that he arranged for a “reconciliation” meeting to be held in
the next two hours.
Father Salib refuted the governor of Aswan allegations that the
torched construction was a guest home. He said St. George’s church was
been built 100 years ago and as it was dilapidated, the diocese was
given permission to renovate it completely. He said that the Governor
of Aswan himself signed the license for the renovation in 2010.
The renovation, although having all the necessary licenses from the
government, prompted a crisis in Elmarinab village in the beginning of
September. Islamists objected to the presence of a cross, bell and
dome and prevented Copts from leaving their homes (AINA 9-9-2011).
Outspoken Coptic activist Wagih Jacob said what happened in Elmarinab
is a scandal. The mob went out today, knowing that they have the
support of Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF). “I accuse SCAF
to be in collusion with these people as well as the Governor of Aswan
and the head of prosecution.”
Yacoub said that Coptic activists including himself are going to Aswan
on Saturday to see what is happening there, even if they are killed.
“I call on all Coptic men and Muslim liberals to join us to go to
Aswan,” He accused the Governor of Aswan of not telling the truth
“because he knows very well that no media will go to the village to
take photos there.”
Georges Bouchra of Copts United NGO reported the Copts are staying
indoors as it was rumored that Muslims have threatened to torch their
homes tonight.
The Maspero Coptic Youth organization held a rally in the densely
Coptic-populated district of Shubra in Cairo to protest the attack of
Elmarinab church. It was attended by thousands (video).
On October 1 several Coptic organizations, together with other liberal
movements, will hold a rally under the motto “No to attacks on Coptic
Churches” to start at 5 pm from Shubra and end in Tahrir Square.
By Mary Abdelmassih
Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
[ISN'T THE ARAB SPRING LOVELY]
by Raymond Ibrahim, Jihad Watch
Historically, non-Muslims whose lands were seized by the jihad had
three choices: conversion, dhimmitude, or death. Today, however, they
have a fourth option largely unavailable to their forbears: quit their
lands of origin—emigrate—the latest testimony to the nature of Islam.
A recent report indicates that unprecedented numbers of Copts, Egypt’s
indigenous Christian population, are emigrating from their homeland in
response to the so-called “Arab spring”:
The Egyptian Union of Human Rights Organizations (EUHRO) published
a report today on emigration of Christians from Egypt, saying that
nearly 100,000 Christians have emigrated since March 2011. The report,
which was sent to the Egyptian cabinet and the Supreme Council of the
Armed Forces (SCAF), warned that this emigration has been prompted by
the escalating intimidation and attacks on Christians by Islamists.
“Copts are not emigrating abroad voluntarily,” said Naguib Gabriell,
the director EUHRO, “they are coerced into that by threats and
intimidation by hard line Salafists, and the lack of protection they
are getting from the Egyptian regime.”
The report goes on to list a number of attacks on Copts and churches—
including the killing of Coptic youth in Moqattam, the Imbaba and
other church attacks—adding “Salafist clerics, who gained political
influence after the January 25 Revolution, have become emboldened,
calling Copts Dhimmis who have to pay the jizya (tax paid by non-
Muslims to the state) because they are not first class citizens and
can never enjoy full citizenship rights, or obtain sensitive posts.”
Indeed, this boldness is a harbinger of things to come—and Copts know
it, hence the emigration. Wagdi Ghoneim, a popular cleric and former
imam in California, recently called Copts “Crusaders” on Al Jazeera—
about the worst thing to call someone in the Muslim world—insisting
that they do not deserve equal rights with Muslims in Egypt, because
they are infidel dhimmis. Likewise, Abu Shadi, a top representative of
the Salafis, told Tahrir News that the Copts must either convert to
Islam, pay jizya and assume inferior status, or die. These are just a
couple of examples of the countless Muslim leaders openly hostile to
Egypt’s native population.
Nor is this phenomenon limited to the Copts of Egypt:
Gabriel sees a parallel with the Christian emigration from Iraq,
Palestine and Lebanon. “After the massacre of the congregation of Our
Lady of Deliverance Church on October 31, 2010, and other attacks in
Iraq, the ratio of Iraqi Christians went down from 8% to 2%; in
Palestine to just .5%, and in Lebanon from 75% to 32%. If emigration
of Christians, who constitute nearly 16% of the Egyptian population,
continues at the present rate, it may reach 250,000 by the end of
2011, and within ten years a third of the Coptic population of Egypt
would be gone.”
Bear in mind these large numbers are not simply indicative of those
who want to emigrate, but those who simply can: not only does it take
years to work out the legalities of emigrating, but many simply cannot
afford it. In other words, if emigration was a simple thing, the
number of Christian emigrants from the Muslim world would be even
higher.
As professor Habib Malik confirms, “It is principally the violence
visited sporadically upon these Christian communities in their native
towns and villages across the Middle East, and the absence of any
reliable means of protection in a region seething with religious
fanaticism and despotic forms of rule, which impels Christians to flee
and not return” (Islamism and the Future of the Christians of the
Middle East, pgs. 36-37).
But it’s more than this; in fact, we are witnessing another
manifestation of history—witnessing firsthand how formerly non-Muslim
lands become Muslim. For just as conversion to Islam (out of force,
out of necessity, out of cynicism) and the outright killing of non-
Muslims saw the ranks of Islam grow, so too does emigration fit in
this same paradigm of Islamization.
Beyond the authoritative primary sources which unequivocally
demonstrate the violent nature of Islam—including history and theology
texts—which many prefer to dismiss as “dead books,” here, then, is yet
another live example. And yet the West’s leaders, from academics to
politicians, will continue insisting that Islam is the “religion of
peace”—testimony to the endemic blindness inflicting this age.
Raymond Ibrahim, an Islam-specialist, is a Shillman Fellow at the
David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle
East Forum.
Muslim Mob Torches Coptic Church in Egypt
GMT 10-1-2011 1:44:22
Assyrian International News Agency
(AINA) — After Friday prayers today, a mob of several thousand Muslims
from the village of Elmarinab in Edfu, Aswan province, demolished and
torched St. George’s church, which was being renovated. The mob
demolished the dome, walls and columns, then went to the church depot
where the lumber to be used for construction was stored and torched
it. The fire lasted 2 hours but the attack continued until 7 PM.
In an interview on Coptic TV channel, Father Salib of St. George’s
Church said “the Imam of one of the village mosques called on the
people to take matter in their own hands, he added. Other witnesses
named the Imam as Sheikh Sabry.
According to eyewitnesses the Muslims also torched a large depot of
electrical goods owned by a Copt, a supermarket and four Coptic homes.
Muslims prevented the fire brigade from entering the village. Security
forces, which were present, “stood there watching,” said Mr.Michael
Ramzy, a social worker at the church.
Dr. Naguib Gabriel, head of the Egyptian Union of Human rights
Organizations send an urgent message to field Marchall Tantawi to save
the Copts in Egypt. “The Copts, their lives and their churches are in
danger,” he said.
Attorney Mamdouh Nakhla, head of Al-Kalema human rights organization
condemned Muslims taking the law in their own hands. He said “if the
Egyptian Government is unable to protect its citizens, then the
civilized international society should step in immediately to stop
this human tragedy.”
The Media denied the incident. Mostafa el Sayed, Governor of Aswan,
appeared on State TV tonight and denied any church being torched. He
said it was a “guest home” and not a church. El Sayed said he gave his
permission for the building to be 9 meters high, but the church
contractor made it 13 meters high. “The contractor was slow in
removing the 4 meters, so the Muslim youths took the matter into their
hand.” He said the fire was in a depot of the church which had the
construction lumber.
He said that both parties are at fault, the Christians for exceeding
the height and the Muslims for taking matters into their own hands. He
added that he arranged for a “reconciliation” meeting to be held in
the next two hours.
Father Salib refuted the governor of Aswan allegations that the
torched construction was a guest home. He said St. George’s church was
been built 100 years ago and as it was dilapidated, the diocese was
given permission to renovate it completely. He said that the Governor
of Aswan himself signed the license for the renovation in 2010.
The renovation, although having all the necessary licenses from the
government, prompted a crisis in Elmarinab village in the beginning of
September. Islamists objected to the presence of a cross, bell and
dome and prevented Copts from leaving their homes (AINA 9-9-2011).
Outspoken Coptic activist Wagih Jacob said what happened in Elmarinab
is a scandal. The mob went out today, knowing that they have the
support of Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF). “I accuse SCAF
to be in collusion with these people as well as the Governor of Aswan
and the head of prosecution.”
Yacoub said that Coptic activists including himself are going to Aswan
on Saturday to see what is happening there, even if they are killed.
“I call on all Coptic men and Muslim liberals to join us to go to
Aswan,” He accused the Governor of Aswan of not telling the truth
“because he knows very well that no media will go to the village to
take photos there.”
Georges Bouchra of Copts United NGO reported the Copts are staying
indoors as it was rumored that Muslims have threatened to torch their
homes tonight.
The Maspero Coptic Youth organization held a rally in the densely
Coptic-populated district of Shubra in Cairo to protest the attack of
Elmarinab church. It was attended by thousands (video).
On October 1 several Coptic organizations, together with other liberal
movements, will hold a rally under the motto “No to attacks on Coptic
Churches” to start at 5 pm from Shubra and end in Tahrir Square.
By Mary Abdelmassih
The Revd
Oct 5, 2011, 10:43:49 AM10/5/11
to
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>
>Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
Who gives a shit, gook?
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>
>Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
The Peeler
Oct 5, 2011, 10:53:56 AM10/5/11
to
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:43:49 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
>>http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>>
>>Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>
> Who gives a shit, gook?
Constipated again, "The Rectum"? <BG>
--
Retarded, subnormal and extremely proud of it: our resident psychopath, The
Retard (aka "The Rectum").
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
>>http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>>
>>Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>
> Who gives a shit, gook?
--
Retarded, subnormal and extremely proud of it: our resident psychopath, The
Retard (aka "The Rectum").
Michael Ejercito
Oct 5, 2011, 3:21:46 PM10/5/11
to
On Oct 5, 7:43 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>
> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>
> >Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>
> Who gives a shit, gook?
Decent people, nithing.> >http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>
> >Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>
> Who gives a shit, gook?
That excludes you.
You are a Nazi.
As a Nazi, you are, above all else, a craven coward.
You are afraid to compete with others as equals because you know
you can not measure up.
You are afraid of your own inadequacy, so you want to murder your
betters.
You are afraid of the truth, so you want to murder those who would
tell it.
You are afraid of history, so you want to murder the past, to wipe
out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National
Socialism.
Finally, you are afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
Freedom of choice terrifies you... which is why you choose minor
children as sexual partners. You can not interact with competent
adults in a consensually sexual
way. You need to be able to impose yourself on a helpless victim, be
it a prepubescent
boy, or a patient in a mental hospital.
That is what you are, a Nazi, and there is nothing polite or
honest about it.
Michael
Kickboxer ®™
Oct 5, 2011, 3:59:21 PM10/5/11
to
> Decent people, nithing.
>
> That excludes you.
>
> You are a Nazi.
>
> As a Nazi, you are, above all else, a craven coward.
>
> You are afraid to compete with others as equals because you know
> you can not measure up.
>
> You are afraid of your own inadequacy, so you want to murder your
> betters.
>
> You are afraid of the truth, so you want to murder those who would
> tell it.
>
> You are afraid of history, so you want to murder the past, to wipe
> out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
> National
> Socialism.
>
> Finally, you are afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
> Freedom of choice terrifies you... which is why you choose minor
> children as sexual partners. You can not interact with competent
> adults in a consensually sexual
> way. You need to be able to impose yourself on a helpless victim, be
> it a prepubescent
> boy, or a patient in a mental hospital.
>
> That is what you are, a Nazi, and there is nothing polite or
> honest about it.
>
> Michael
He is also the most pathetic character on the Internet so any form of
>
> That excludes you.
>
> You are a Nazi.
>
> As a Nazi, you are, above all else, a craven coward.
>
> You are afraid to compete with others as equals because you know
> you can not measure up.
>
> You are afraid of your own inadequacy, so you want to murder your
> betters.
>
> You are afraid of the truth, so you want to murder those who would
> tell it.
>
> You are afraid of history, so you want to murder the past, to wipe
> out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
> National
> Socialism.
>
> Finally, you are afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
> Freedom of choice terrifies you... which is why you choose minor
> children as sexual partners. You can not interact with competent
> adults in a consensually sexual
> way. You need to be able to impose yourself on a helpless victim, be
> it a prepubescent
> boy, or a patient in a mental hospital.
>
> That is what you are, a Nazi, and there is nothing polite or
> honest about it.
>
> Michael
discussion with him is overkill.
The Revd
Oct 5, 2011, 4:24:37 PM10/5/11
to
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 5, 7:43 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>>
>> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>>
>> >Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>>
>> Who gives a shit, gook?
> Decent people, nithing.
>
> That excludes you.
There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 5, 7:43 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>>
>> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>>
>> >Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>>
>> Who gives a shit, gook?
> Decent people, nithing.
>
> That excludes you.
The Revd
Oct 5, 2011, 4:25:33 PM10/5/11
to
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT), Grikboxer ®™
<greas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>He is also the most pathetic character on the Internet so any form of
>discussion with him is overkill.
Why don't you go greek yourself, Grik raghead? You know it makes
<greas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>He is also the most pathetic character on the Internet so any form of
>discussion with him is overkill.
sense.
The Peeler
Oct 5, 2011, 5:13:02 PM10/5/11
to
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:25:33 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
--
Kickboxer ®™ about The Rectum: "He is also the most pathetic character on
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
farted again:
>>He is also the most pathetic character on the Internet so any form of
>>discussion with him is overkill.
>
> Why don't you go greek yourself, Grik raghead? You know it makes
> sense.
Unable to face the truth about your pathetic abnormal self, The Rectum? LOL
>>discussion with him is overkill.
>
> Why don't you go greek yourself, Grik raghead? You know it makes
> sense.
--
Kickboxer ®™ about The Rectum: "He is also the most pathetic character on
the Internet so any form of discussion with him is overkill."
MID: <fc901ae3-6ae2-480b...@p11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>
The Peeler
Oct 5, 2011, 5:14:42 PM10/5/11
to
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:24:37 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
impotent psycho? <VBG>
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
farted again:
>>> Who gives a shit, gook?
>> Decent people, nithing.
>>
>> That excludes you.
>
> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
What are you blathering now about, you pathetic housebound frustrated
>> Decent people, nithing.
>>
>> That excludes you.
>
> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
impotent psycho? <VBG>
Michael Ejercito
Oct 5, 2011, 9:35:16 PM10/5/11
to
On Oct 5, 1:25 pm, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT), Grikboxer ®™
>
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT), Grikboxer ®™
>
> <greasesu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >He is also the most pathetic character on the Internet so any form of
> >discussion with him is overkill.
>
> Why don't you go greek yourself, Grik raghead? You know it makes
> sense.
Your life greeks you.
> >He is also the most pathetic character on the Internet so any form of
> >discussion with him is overkill.
>
> Why don't you go greek yourself, Grik raghead? You know it makes
> sense.
Michael
Michael Ejercito
Oct 5, 2011, 9:36:09 PM10/5/11
to
On Oct 5, 1:24 pm, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>
> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 5, 7:43 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>
> >> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>
> >> >Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>
> >> Who gives a shit, gook?
> > Decent people, nithing.
>
> > That excludes you.
>
> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
> >On Oct 5, 7:43 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>
> >> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>
> >> >Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>
> >> Who gives a shit, gook?
> > Decent people, nithing.
>
> > That excludes you.
>
> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
You are a nithing- homo sapiens by birth, subhuman BY CHOICE. The
key word is CHOICE. You were born with the same human nature as the
rest of us. Your CHOICES made you a nithing.
Bill explains what nithings are.
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=9446
Define and Dehumanize the Enemy: Jihadists as Nithings or Nidings
by Bill Levinson
It is an ancient principle of magic (which modern people recognize as
stories that reflect a society’s culture and psychology) that
knowledge of a person’s real or True Name delivers power over that
person. What it really means is that, if you know the person’s
psychology, you can gain an advantage over him. It is also well known
that the side that controls the language of an argument controls the
argument. As an example, Hamas terrorists and their enablers refer to
Israel’s military as an “occupation force” and terrorisitic violence
against civilians as “resistance.”
We have long sought a single word that strips the enemy of all
humanity, and reduces him to something less than an animal that is
worthy of nothing less than extermination. As far as we know, the
English language contains no such word, although “dreck” (garbage or
refuse) comes close. “Homo sapiens by BIRTH, subhuman by CHOICE”
describes Islamic supremacists perfectly, but it is a phrase and not a
word. We now propose to refer to Islamic supremacists as nithings or
nidings: a Scandinavian word that strips its object of all humanity.
Webster’s dictionary (1913) defines it as “A coward; a dastard; — a
term of utmost opprobrium.”
We remind readers who object to the dehumanization of Islamic
supremacists that those enemies are already attempting to dehumanize
Jews, and to a lesser degree Christians, with images that could have
come directly from Adolf Hitler. As they have chosen to sow the
dragon’s teeth, our position is that they must now reap their rightful
harvest: the complete hatred and loathing of all civilized human
beings.
nithings
Nithing or niding was more than a common insult, because Scandinavian
culture required its subject to fight a duel with the accuser or
become an outlaw: totally devoid of rights, honor, and even
recognition as a human being. Per the Wikipedia entry,
The actual meaning of the adjective argr or ragr [= Anglo-Saxon
earg] was the nature or appearance of effeminacy, especially by
obscene acts. Argr was the worst, most derogatory swearword of all
known to the Norse language. According to Icelandic law, the accused
was expected to kill the accuser at once. …If the accused did not
retort by violent attack yielding either the accuser to take his words
back or the accuser’s death, he was hence proven to be a weak and
cowardly nithing by not retorting accordingly.
A nithing was devoid of all human rights, and he was considered the
enemy of civilized humanity: a perfect depiction of Islamic
supremacists. The word therefore strips the enemy of all humanity, and
degrades him to the status of a wolf or strangler (per Scandinavian
tradition) or a virulent disease like the Black Plague. Black Plague
is a deadly and contagious disease whose vector consists of plague-
carrying rats, while the Green Plague of militant “Islam” is a deadly
and contagious ideology that is spread by bipedal rats: nidings or
nithings, non-humans that raise violent hands to all of civilized
Humanity.
The immediate consequence of being proven a nithing was
outlawing. The outlawed did not have any rights, he was exlex (Latin
for “outside of the legal system”), in Anglo-Saxon utlah, Middle Low
German uutlagh, Old Norse utlagr. Just as feud yielded enmity among
kinships, outlawry yielded enmity of all humanity.[63] …”Yet that is
but one aspect of outlawry. The outlaw is not only expelled from the
kinship, he is also regarded henceforth as an enemy to mankind.”
The actual definition of a nithing is somewhat more involved and
complex, and it gets into sexual perversions and zoomorphical
transformations (Loki’s transformation of himself into a mare to have
sexual intercourse with a stallion, and thus beget Odin’s horse
Sleipner is probably an example), but the following line is pertinent:
“The nithing used its malicious seid magic to destroy anything owned
and made by man, ultimately the human race and Midgard itself[6], due
to its basically unlimited envy, hate, and malice that were nith.”
“Destruction of everything owned and made by Man” (the Palestinians’
destruction of the greenhouses in Gaza comes to mind immediately) and
“unlimited envy, hate, and malice” describe militant “Islam”
perfectly, and further underscore the application of nithing or niding
to describe it. The propensity for mindless destruction also appears
in Orson Scott Card’s Alvin Maker series, in which a supernatural
enemy is known as the Unmaker: a personification of evil that is the
total antithesis of God the Creator.
The Unmaker is the main antagonist in Orson Scott Card’s
alternate history/fantasy series The Tales of Alvin Maker. Never
directly confronted, it is a supernatural force that breaks apart
matter and aims to destroy and consume everything and everyone. …To
make something is to oppose the Unmaker, but a point often made is
that this is futile. By natural law the Unmaker can tear down faster
than any man can build.
This also is an outstanding definition of militant “Islam” or Islamic
supremacy: an ideology that seeks to destroy everything into which it
comes in contact, and with which no reason, negotiation, or compromise
is possible.
In summary, a nithing or niding is the enemy of Civilization, a
subhuman (through its behavioral choices, and emphatically NOT due to
its racial or ethnic origin) monster with total hatred and malice
toward all human industry and arts, and worthy of nothing but
extermination like any virulent disease. This is the word we will now
apply to Islamic supremacists and their enablers, and we encourage
others to do likewise.
Amro
Oct 6, 2011, 5:43:27 AM10/6/11
to
http://www.domainofman.com/ankhemmaat/intro.html
The United Kingdom of David and Solomon
David and Solomon are portrayed in the Bible as two
of the greatest kings of the ancient world. However,
no trace of their empire has ever been found in
Palestine. It is a period curiously missing from the
archaeological record of the region. Quoting from the book,
Archaeology of the Land of the Bible, "The Bible is the
only written source concerning the United Monarchy, and it
is therefore the basis of any historical presentation of the
period."(1) There is such a complete void of external sources
that the archaeologist, author and leading authority on the era,
Donald Redford, writes in frustration that "such topics as the
foreign policy of David and Solomon, Solomon's trade in horses
or his marriage to Pharaoh's daughter must
remain themes for midrash and fictional treatment."(2)
http://domainofman.com/ankhemmaat/integrat.html
David & Solomon
According to Donald Redford in his landmark book, Egypt, Canaan, and
Israel in Ancient Times, "Solomon has assumed the guise of the
'Sesostris of Israel.(1)'" (The story of the "semi-legendary" King
Sesostris originated about the sixth century B.C. as a composite of
the two great historical Pharaohs of Egypt, Thutmose III and Ramses
II.) The research of Ahmed Osman points to Amenhotep III as being the
main source of our "Sesostris of Israel."
http://www.ahmedosman.com/links.html
Ahmed Osman wrote: "As for the origin of
the word ‘messiah’ it is certainly Egyptian.
Egyptians used to anoint their king at his
coronation with the fat of the crocodile.
This custom is still living in Upper Egypt
for aphrodisiac reasons. As the word for
crocodile in Egyptian is ‘meseh’, the kings
received a title after his anointing written
with two crocodile signs. As Egyptian
language used a long vowel ‘ee’ to indicate
the duel, this title is read ‘meseeh’.
So the word Messiah was
originally a title for all anointed
Egyptian kings."
British Egyptologist E.A. Wallis Budge
talks about how ancient Egyptians
anointed themselves in "The Dwellers on
the Nile " pg 73 but did not know what kind
of fat used.
British Egyptologists Budge also wrote in 1931:
"The student of Bible history also has acquired
a mass of invaluable information through the
decipherment of these Egyptian inscriptions.
For even though they contain no confirmatory
evidence for the Exodus, they show that the
narrative of the book of Exodus was composed
by one who had access to writings based on Egyptian
documents, and that his story of the Exodus
of the Hebrews from Egypt was a somewhat
garbled version of a widespread tradition
founded on historical facts. Some passages in the
history of Moses have their equivalents in the Story
of Sanehe; the dual between Sanehe and the Syrian
giant recalls the duel between David and Goliath;"
pg 18, Egyptian Tales and Legends.
And the story of the two brothers where Budge writes:
"When this story became generally known in Europe,
many members of the public believed that it was the
original form of the story of Joseph and Potiphar's wife"
pg 19, Egyptian tales and legends .
Budge also wrote in 1925: ..the Books of Moral Percepts
written by scribes and others show that at least some
of the Egyptians did believe in the existence of a great
and Supreme Being." The Dwellers on the Nile, pg 208
Moses is
an ancient Egyptian name meaning son or child.
The Hymn of Akhenaten is identical
to a Psalm verse. Conception of Monotheism
was found in Ancient Egypt even before
Akhenaten (Moses) and Abraham.
Horus son of Osiris was thrown into the Nile
in a basket when he was a baby and was picked
by the "Ntrs," resembling the throwing of Moses into
the Nile when he was a baby by his mother and picked
by Pharoah's daughter. Osiris was killed,
mutilated and then risen alife, resembling the
ressurection of Jesus. The seven year famine
was circulated in ancient Egyptian literature
because it actually happened in the
old kingdom long before the time of
Joseph. There is a statue of Horus in
a horse killing the dragon long before
st. George. Even the root of the Trinity
could be found in Tutankhamen's tomb
where he is portrayed as Osiris (the father),
Horus (the son) and as Ka (his spirit); one
in three and three in one.
If one takes a look at the Golden Throne
of Tutankhamen, it shows his wife is anointing
him just like Mary Magdelene anointed Jesus
in the Gospels; and Mary is an ancient Egyptian
name meaning beautiful. Also look at Isis
and baby Horus and you'll see the forerunner
of mother Mary and baby Jesus.
Also check "Moses and Monotheism" by Sigmund
Freud; and "Moses Mystery: the Egyptian origin
of the Jewish people" by Gary Greenburg.
"Ankh em Maat" means "living in truth"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maat
This Hymn was written around 3,500
years ago in Middle Egypt:
"How manifold it is, what You have made!
They are hidden from the face (of man).
O sole God, like whom there is no other!
You did create the world according to
Your desire, While Your were alone: All men,
cattle, and wild beasts, Whatever is on earth,
going upon (its) feet, And what is on high,
flying with its wings. The countries of Syria
and Ethiopia, the land of Egypt, You sette
every man in his place, You supplied their
necessities: Everyone has his food, and his
time of life is reckoned. Their tongues are
separate in speech, And their natures as well;
Their skins are distinguished, As thou
distinguished the foreign peoples."
John A. Wilson, trans., “The Great Hymn to the
Aton,” inscription, west wall of the tomb of Aye,
Tell el-Amarna
The United Kingdom of David and Solomon
David and Solomon are portrayed in the Bible as two
of the greatest kings of the ancient world. However,
no trace of their empire has ever been found in
Palestine. It is a period curiously missing from the
archaeological record of the region. Quoting from the book,
Archaeology of the Land of the Bible, "The Bible is the
only written source concerning the United Monarchy, and it
is therefore the basis of any historical presentation of the
period."(1) There is such a complete void of external sources
that the archaeologist, author and leading authority on the era,
Donald Redford, writes in frustration that "such topics as the
foreign policy of David and Solomon, Solomon's trade in horses
or his marriage to Pharaoh's daughter must
remain themes for midrash and fictional treatment."(2)
http://domainofman.com/ankhemmaat/integrat.html
David & Solomon
According to Donald Redford in his landmark book, Egypt, Canaan, and
Israel in Ancient Times, "Solomon has assumed the guise of the
'Sesostris of Israel.(1)'" (The story of the "semi-legendary" King
Sesostris originated about the sixth century B.C. as a composite of
the two great historical Pharaohs of Egypt, Thutmose III and Ramses
II.) The research of Ahmed Osman points to Amenhotep III as being the
main source of our "Sesostris of Israel."
http://www.ahmedosman.com/links.html
Ahmed Osman wrote: "As for the origin of
the word ‘messiah’ it is certainly Egyptian.
Egyptians used to anoint their king at his
coronation with the fat of the crocodile.
This custom is still living in Upper Egypt
for aphrodisiac reasons. As the word for
crocodile in Egyptian is ‘meseh’, the kings
received a title after his anointing written
with two crocodile signs. As Egyptian
language used a long vowel ‘ee’ to indicate
the duel, this title is read ‘meseeh’.
So the word Messiah was
originally a title for all anointed
Egyptian kings."
British Egyptologist E.A. Wallis Budge
talks about how ancient Egyptians
anointed themselves in "The Dwellers on
the Nile " pg 73 but did not know what kind
of fat used.
British Egyptologists Budge also wrote in 1931:
"The student of Bible history also has acquired
a mass of invaluable information through the
decipherment of these Egyptian inscriptions.
For even though they contain no confirmatory
evidence for the Exodus, they show that the
narrative of the book of Exodus was composed
by one who had access to writings based on Egyptian
documents, and that his story of the Exodus
of the Hebrews from Egypt was a somewhat
garbled version of a widespread tradition
founded on historical facts. Some passages in the
history of Moses have their equivalents in the Story
of Sanehe; the dual between Sanehe and the Syrian
giant recalls the duel between David and Goliath;"
pg 18, Egyptian Tales and Legends.
And the story of the two brothers where Budge writes:
"When this story became generally known in Europe,
many members of the public believed that it was the
original form of the story of Joseph and Potiphar's wife"
pg 19, Egyptian tales and legends .
Budge also wrote in 1925: ..the Books of Moral Percepts
written by scribes and others show that at least some
of the Egyptians did believe in the existence of a great
and Supreme Being." The Dwellers on the Nile, pg 208
Moses is
an ancient Egyptian name meaning son or child.
The Hymn of Akhenaten is identical
to a Psalm verse. Conception of Monotheism
was found in Ancient Egypt even before
Akhenaten (Moses) and Abraham.
Horus son of Osiris was thrown into the Nile
in a basket when he was a baby and was picked
by the "Ntrs," resembling the throwing of Moses into
the Nile when he was a baby by his mother and picked
by Pharoah's daughter. Osiris was killed,
mutilated and then risen alife, resembling the
ressurection of Jesus. The seven year famine
was circulated in ancient Egyptian literature
because it actually happened in the
old kingdom long before the time of
Joseph. There is a statue of Horus in
a horse killing the dragon long before
st. George. Even the root of the Trinity
could be found in Tutankhamen's tomb
where he is portrayed as Osiris (the father),
Horus (the son) and as Ka (his spirit); one
in three and three in one.
If one takes a look at the Golden Throne
of Tutankhamen, it shows his wife is anointing
him just like Mary Magdelene anointed Jesus
in the Gospels; and Mary is an ancient Egyptian
name meaning beautiful. Also look at Isis
and baby Horus and you'll see the forerunner
of mother Mary and baby Jesus.
Also check "Moses and Monotheism" by Sigmund
Freud; and "Moses Mystery: the Egyptian origin
of the Jewish people" by Gary Greenburg.
"Ankh em Maat" means "living in truth"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maat
This Hymn was written around 3,500
years ago in Middle Egypt:
"How manifold it is, what You have made!
They are hidden from the face (of man).
O sole God, like whom there is no other!
You did create the world according to
Your desire, While Your were alone: All men,
cattle, and wild beasts, Whatever is on earth,
going upon (its) feet, And what is on high,
flying with its wings. The countries of Syria
and Ethiopia, the land of Egypt, You sette
every man in his place, You supplied their
necessities: Everyone has his food, and his
time of life is reckoned. Their tongues are
separate in speech, And their natures as well;
Their skins are distinguished, As thou
distinguished the foreign peoples."
John A. Wilson, trans., “The Great Hymn to the
Aton,” inscription, west wall of the tomb of Aye,
Tell el-Amarna
The Revd
Oct 6, 2011, 7:05:37 AM10/6/11
to
The Revd
Oct 6, 2011, 7:06:06 AM10/6/11
to
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:36:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 5, 1:24 pm, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>>
>> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 5, 7:43 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>>
>> >> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>>
>> >> >Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>>
>> >> Who gives a shit, gook?
>> > Decent people, nithing.
>>
>> > That excludes you.
>>
>> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
> What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
WE aks the questions, gook.
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 5, 1:24 pm, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>>
>> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 5, 7:43 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 07:18:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
>>
>> >> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >http://www.israpundit.com/archives/40280
>>
>> >> >Egyptian Copts Running for Their Lives
>>
>> >> Who gives a shit, gook?
>> > Decent people, nithing.
>>
>> > That excludes you.
>>
>> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
> What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
The Peeler
Oct 6, 2011, 7:29:51 AM10/6/11
to
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 07:05:37 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
LOL
--
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
>>>
farted again:
>>>
>>> Why don't you go greek yourself, Grik raghead? You know it makes
>>> sense.
>
> <gook lack of imagination b'rissed>
Forever unable to confront the ugly truth about your ugly self, The Rectum?
>>> sense.
>
> <gook lack of imagination b'rissed>
LOL
--
The Peeler
Oct 6, 2011, 7:31:31 AM10/6/11
to
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 07:06:06 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
clobbered by everyone on these groups! LOL It's a hoot!
--
Kickboxer ®™ about The Rectum: "He is also the most pathetic character on
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
farted again:
>>> > That excludes you.
>>>
>>> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
>> What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
>
> WE aks the questions, gook.
OBVIOUSLY you DON'T!!! Obviously YOU only get your bleeding psychopathic ass
>>>
>>> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
>> What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
>
> WE aks the questions, gook.
clobbered by everyone on these groups! LOL It's a hoot!
--
Kickboxer ®™ about The Rectum: "He is also the most pathetic character on
the Internet so any form of discussion with him is overkill."
MID: <fc901ae3-6ae2-480b...@p11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>
Michael Ejercito
Oct 6, 2011, 3:13:09 PM10/6/11
to
On Oct 6, 4:06 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:36:09 -0700 (PDT),Michael Ejercito
>
> <gook lack of imagination b'rissed>
The following link explains you.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//m/morton.chris/what-is-a-nazi
Michael
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:36:09 -0700 (PDT),Michael Ejercito
>
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> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 5, 1:24 pm, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT),Michael Ejercito
>
> >> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Decent people, nithing.
>
> >> > That excludes you.
>
> >> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
> > What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
>
> WE aks the questions, gook.
Your failure to answer the question is noted, boy.
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> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 5, 1:24 pm, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT),Michael Ejercito
>
> >> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Decent people, nithing.
>
> >> > That excludes you.
>
> >> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
> > What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
>
> WE aks the questions, gook.
>
> <gook lack of imagination b'rissed>
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//m/morton.chris/what-is-a-nazi
Michael
The Revd
Oct 6, 2011, 3:30:57 PM10/6/11
to
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:13:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 6, 4:06 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:36:09 -0700 (PDT),Michael Ejercito
>>
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>>
>> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 5, 1:24 pm, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT),Michael Ejercito
>>
>> >> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Decent people, nithing.
>>
>> >> > That excludes you.
>>
>> >> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
>> > What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
>>
>> WE aks the questions, gook.
<meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 6, 4:06 am, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:36:09 -0700 (PDT),Michael Ejercito
>>
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>> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 5, 1:24 pm, The Revd <peel...@degenerate.Grik> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:21:46 -0700 (PDT),Michael Ejercito
>>
>> >> <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Decent people, nithing.
>>
>> >> > That excludes you.
>>
>> >> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
>> > What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
>>
>> WE aks the questions, gook.
The Peeler
Oct 6, 2011, 4:29:40 PM10/6/11
to
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:30:57 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
degenerate bastard?
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
farted again:
>>> >> There isn't even a word for decent in gookspeak, gook.
>>> > What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
>>>
>>> WE aks the questions, gook.
>
> <gook lack of imagination b'rissed>
Unable to face the ugly truth about your perverted ugly self, you sick
>>> > What the fuck is gookspeak, boy?
>>>
>>> WE aks the questions, gook.
>
> <gook lack of imagination b'rissed>
degenerate bastard?
dsharavi
Oct 6, 2011, 7:08:09 PM10/6/11
to
On Oct 6, 2:43 am, Amro <amrom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> David and Solomon are portrayed in the Bible as two
> of the greatest kings of the ancient world. However,
> no trace of their empire has ever been found in
> Palestine.
Which wasn't called Palestine for over a millennium past their time.
> David and Solomon are portrayed in the Bible as two
> of the greatest kings of the ancient world. However,
> no trace of their empire has ever been found in
> Palestine.
Alexander was portrayed as THE greatest king of ancient times, ruler
of the world's largest empire. No archaeological evidence, nor
contemporaneous written records, of Alexander exist anywhere in that
empire.
Deborah
Michael Ejercito
Oct 6, 2011, 9:27:47 PM10/6/11
to
History's oldest hatred
by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
March 11, 2009
http://www.jeffjacoby.com/4743/historys-oldest-hatred
ANTI-SEMITISM is an ancient derangement, the oldest of hatreds, so it
is strange that it lacks a more meaningful name. The misnomer "anti-
Semitism" -- a term coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm
Marr, who wanted a scientific-sounding euphemism for Judenhass, or
Jew-
hatred -- is particularly inane, since hostility to Jews has never had
anything to do with Semites or being Semitic. (That is why those who
protest that Arabs cannot be anti-Semitic since "Arabs are Semites
too" speak either from ignorance or disingenuousness.)
Perhaps there is no good name for a virus as mutable and unyielding as
anti-Semitism. "The Jews have been objects of hatred in pagan,
religious, and secular societies," write Joseph Telushkin and Dennis
Prager in Why the Jews?, their classic study of anti-Semitism.
"Fascists have accused them of being Communists, and Communists have
branded them capitalists. Jews who live in non-Jewish societies have
been accused of having dual loyalties, while Jews who live in the
Jewish state have been condemned as 'racists.' Poor Jews are bullied,
and rich Jews are resented. Jews have been branded as both rootless
cosmopolitans and ethnic chauvinists. Jews who assimilate have been
called a 'fifth column,' while those who stay together spark hatred
for remaining separate."
So hardy is anti-Semitism, it can flourish without Jews. Shakespeare's
poisonous depiction of the Jewish moneylender Shylock was written for
audiences that had never seen a Jew, all Jews having been expelled
from England more than 300 years earlier. Anti-Semitic bigotry infests
Saudi Arabia, where Jews have not dwelt in at least five centuries;
its malignance is suggested by the government daily Al-Riyadh, which
published an essay claiming that Jews have a taste for "pastries mixed
with human blood."
Esther Confounding Haman (Engraving by Gustave Doré, 1875)
There was Jew-hatred before there was Christianity or Islam, before
Nazism or Communism, before Zionism or the Middle East conflict. This
week Jews celebrate the festival of Purim, gathering in synagogues to
read the biblical book of Esther. Set in ancient Persia, it tells of
Haman, a powerful royal adviser who is insulted when the Jewish sage
Mordechai refuses to bow down to him. Haman resolves to wipe out the
empire's Jews and makes the case for genocide in an appeal to the
king:
"There is a certain people scattered and dispersed among ... all the
provinces of your kingdom, and their laws are different from those of
other peoples, and the king's laws they do not keep, so it is of no
benefit for the king to tolerate them. If it please the king, let it
be written that they be destroyed." After winning royal assent, Haman
makes plans "to annihilate, to kill and destroy all the Jews, the
young and the elderly, children and women, in one day . . . and to
take their property for plunder."
What drives such bloodlust? Haman's indictment accuses the Jews of
lacking national loyalty, of insinuating themselves throughout the
empire, of flouting the king's law. But the Jews of Persia had done
nothing to justify Haman's murderous anti-Semitism -- just as Jews in
later ages did nothing that justified their persecution under the
Church or Islam, or their expulsion from so many lands in Europe and
the Middle East, or their repression at the hands of Russian czars and
Soviet commissars, or their slaughter by Nazi Germany. When the
president of Iran today calls for the extirpation of the Jewish state,
when a leader of Hamas vows to kill Jewish children around the world,
when firebombs are hurled at synagogues in London and Paris and
Chicago, it is not because Jews deserve to be victimized.
Some Jews are no saints, but the paranoid frenzy that is anti-Semitism
is not explained by what Jews do, but by what they are. The Jewish
people are the object of anti-Semitism, not its cause. That is why the
haters' rationales can be so wildly inconsistent and their agendas so
contradictory. What, after all, do those who vilify Jews as greedy
bankers have in common with those who revile them as seditious
Bolsheviks? Nothing, save an irrational obsession with Jews.
At one point in the book of Esther, Haman lets the mask slip. He
boasts to his friends and family of "the glory of his riches, and the
great number of his sons, and everything in which the king had
promoted him and elevated him." Still, he seethes with rage and
frustration: "Yet all this is worthless to me so long as I see
Mordechai the Jew sitting at the king's gate." That is the
unforgivable offense: "Mordechai the Jew" refuses to blend in, to
abandon his values, to be just like everyone else. He goes on sitting
there -- undigested, unassimilated, and for that reason unbearable.
Of course Haman had his ostensible reasons for targeting Jews. So did
Hitler and Arafat; so does Ahmadinejad. Sometimes the anti-Semite
focuses on the Jew's religion, sometimes on his laws and lifestyle,
sometimes on his national identity or his professional achievements.
Ultimately, however, it is the Jew's Jewishness, and the call to
higher standards that it represents, that the anti-Semite cannot
abide.
With all their flaws and failings, the Jewish people endure, their
role in history not yet finished. So the world's oldest hatred endures
too, as obsessive and indestructible -- and deadly -- as ever.
(Jeff Jacoby is a columnist for The Boston Globe.)
Michael Ejercito
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of David.
Michael
dsharavi
Oct 10, 2011, 8:44:39 PM10/10/11
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David. Some clown tried to pretend that the meaning wasn't David, but
the "House of the Beloved", i.e., the Temple in Jerusalem. As if.
Deborah
The Revd
Oct 11, 2011, 5:54:36 AM10/11/11
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rectum.
The Peeler
Oct 11, 2011, 6:12:11 AM10/11/11
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:54:36 -0400, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
farted again:
>>> contemporaneous written records, of Alexander exist anywhere in that
>>> empire.
>>>
>>> Deborah
>> I read somewhere that there was an external reference to the House
>>of David.
>
> Probably some jew lie that you sucked out of Bill Levinstein's fat jew
> rectum.
<snicker> No longer able to talk like a half-way normal human being, "The
Rectum"? LMAO!
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The Rectum hung by a rope:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/therevd.jpg/
Michael Ejercito
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On Oct 10, 5:25=A0pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 4:08=A0pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:> On Oct 6, 2=
:43=A0am, Amro <amrom...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > David and Solomon are portrayed in the Bible as two
> > > of the greatest kings of the ancient world. However,
> > > no trace of their empire has ever been found in
> > > Palestine.
>
> > Which wasn't called Palestine for over a millennium past their time.
>
> > Alexander was portrayed as THE greatest king of ancient times, ruler
> > of the world's largest empire. No archaeological evidence, nor
> > contemporaneous written records, of Alexander exist anywhere in that
> > empire.
>
> > Deborah
>
> =A0 =A0I read somewhere that there was an external reference to the House
> of David.
> =A0Michael
There is indeed; the 9thC BCE Tel Dan stele, referencing the House of
David. Some clown tried to pretend that the meaning wasn't David, but
the "House of the Beloved", i.e., the Temple in Jerusalem. As if.
Deborah
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