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Heinrich

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:58:36 AM11/15/09
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a viustor of mr.irving's new york meetingpostedfollowing comment
Just got home from the SUCCESSFUL NYC talk by famed British historian David
Irving! A major success! Mr. Irving and his entourage contacted the faithful
earlier than expected, Antifa had planned a 5:30 pm meeting to discuss how
to best disrupt the 7:00 PM meeting. We however met at a new location at
4:00 PM. All went well, very smooth Mr. Irving charming a small audience of
about 20 in an intimate atmosphere. After about 45 minutes I heard a sudden
explosion, a mob of what sounded like 15-20 lunatics screaming "Nazis must
go" and I instictively jumped out of my chair to the sound of Mr.Irving
commanding "Close the door"! Myself and two other brave attendees closed the
doors[with no locks] just in time as approximately 20 COMMIE JUDEN SWINE
proceeded to attempt to kick the doors down and enter the premises. We held
the mob at bay for about 20 minutes, the flimsy doors with God's help
staying in position so no satanic juden devil was able to penetrate,despite
their relentless attempt to kick the doors in. Unbeknownst to us at the
door, two of our people were in the hallway when the demons attacked and
were pepper-sprayed but I am happy to report that they are well and doing
fine. The police were called, hotel security evacuated the scumbags and the
meeting proceeded as scheduled. DAVID IRVING IN NYC WAS A 100% SUCCESS!

NOW, I put all you scumbags on the otherside of that door on notice;

The next time David Irving is in NYC I will be there. However, I will not be
inside, no, I will be outside with 5-6 righteous WNs which I will personally
handpick. Be prepared to meet your maker next time because I promise, you
won't be as lucky as you were tonight.

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 15, 2009, 2:36:18 AM11/15/09
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
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> a viustor of mr.irving's new york meetingpostedfollowing comment
> Just got home from the SUCCESSFUL NYC talk by famed British historian
> David Irving! A major success!

Interesting that an audience of 20 is trumpted as "a major success!".

I'd call that a clear sign that hardly anybody buys the "revisionist" crap
if they have any options.

*Anvil* drew bigger crowds on their worst European tours.

-pk

Heinrich

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:13:55 AM11/15/09
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"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
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>never heard of anvilso that is notimportant. what is importantis the fact
>that 20 people withstood the violence of those antifa fuckers

Jason James

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:02:17 PM11/15/09
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
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Whose funding these "100% successful meetings" of 21 people i a city of many
millions? You?

Jason


Heinrich

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:04:49 PM11/15/09
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"Jason James" <a...@ass.com> schreef in bericht
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>it is simple.people who want to attend the meeting pay a fee to cover
>expenses

it is good to see that despite jewish pressure there are still people who
believein irving

I'll Always Be 15/11/09

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:29:40 PM11/15/09
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It's fortunate that people are capable
of doing research. Irving was not
capable of giving a presentation, being
in the emergency room of a local
hospital with severe stomach pains.

Heinrich

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:45:35 PM11/15/09
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the crueljews are after his skin and he is therefore suffering verymuch by
the bad treatment he is getting hence the stomach pains

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 15, 2009, 2:42:48 PM11/15/09
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
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>
> "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
> news:JrqdnfyxFujOLWLX...@supernews.com...
>>
>> "Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
>> news:7m9n8sF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> a viustor of mr.irving's new york meetingpostedfollowing comment
>>> Just got home from the SUCCESSFUL NYC talk by famed British historian
>>> David Irving! A major success!
>>
>> Interesting that an audience of 20 is trumpted as "a major success!".
>>
>> I'd call that a clear sign that hardly anybody buys the "revisionist"
>> crap if they have any options.
>>
>> *Anvil* drew bigger crowds on their worst European tours.
>>
>> -pk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>never heard of anvilso that is notimportant.

Don't discount the importance of things you are ignorant of.

Anvil, since you don't know, is a Canadian heavy metal band who, while
influential, never quite made the jump to the big time, while thir
contemporaries like Metallica did. In their late 50's, they still toil
away in bars and draw larger crowds than Irving does. But sometimes, those
crowds don't exceed a couple of dozen people.

> what is importantis the fact that 20 people withstood the violence of
> those antifa fuckers

"Withstanding violence" is not really the important factor as the attendee
makes clear that violence is *welcomed*. Did you read the whole article?

What is important is the fact that Irving drew only 20 people, including
those who were hoping for a fight.

This is an expression of abject failure, not a "big success!".

Irving's ideas are clearly rejected by the overwhelming majority of
Americans.

-pk

Heinrich

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Nov 15, 2009, 2:52:54 PM11/15/09
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"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
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>i donot like heavy metal and even dare to say that it has notrhingto do
>with making music, in fact it is notrhing but a lot of noise the rest of
>your comments is not worth while to reply to at this moment

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:49:48 PM11/15/09
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Your musical tastes don't matter or affect the point, which is that a
badly-promoted and unpopular heavy metal band outside its territory can draw
more people than Mr. Irving can in NYC.

Irving's ideas are clearly rejected by the overwheming majority of
Americans. And at least 5% of those there to see Mr. Irving in NYC
welcomed the potential for violence.

That propensity for violence amongst Mr. Irving's supporters is so
pronounced that they'll fight each other. A few days before Mr. Iving's NYC
talk, he spoke in West Palm Beach, Florida. Two of the less than forty
people there got into a knife fight afterwards - with each other.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1223363/White-supremacists-stabbed-talk-Holocaust-denier-David-Irving.html

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/local_news/epaper/2009/10/29/a1b_binocol_1030.html

"So naturally, Irving's talk drew the upper crust of the area's deep
thinkers. And equally natural, this invitation-only gathering devolved into
an act of supreme embarrassment: a knife fight among the cognoscente."

One is apparently a member of a group called "Volksfront" and the other is
from the "National Socialist White Workers Party" and "Confederate
Hammerskins".
http://downfall14.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/hammerskins-vs-volksfront-at-david-irving-speech-in-palm-beach-fl/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/10/29/a-night-at-the-ritz-white-supremacists-a-knife-fight-and-a-holocaust-denier/

If Mr. Irving's few supporters are going to try to kill each other at his
events, soon there won't be any need for protest groups; there won't be
enough supporters left.

But the worst for Mr. Irving is that the only places he'll be able to book
as venues will be outlaw biker or skinhead bars, which may not meet his
standards for comfort, catering, or hygiene. They certainly won't be the
Ritz-Carlton.

-pk


Heinrich

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:59:13 PM11/15/09
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"Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
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> irving is entitled to express his opinions as long as he wants, that the
> jews and other imbeciles do everything in their power to prevent him from
> doing so is an offense to democracy. leave the man alone andlet him do
> what he wants to do

TallHenry

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Nov 15, 2009, 4:02:33 PM11/15/09
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In article <7m9n8sF...@mid.individual.net>,
Heinrich <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote:

> All went well, very smooth Mr. Irving charming a small audience of
> about 20 in an intimate atmosphere.

20 out of 9 million New-Yorkers. Big success, huh? You
stupid shiteating nazi pig...

Heinrich

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Nov 15, 2009, 4:05:11 PM11/15/09
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"TallHenry" <n...@home.org> schreef in bericht
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>it was a success you stupid sheep shearer because the jews and antifa
>terrorists could not prevent irving holding this meeting.it was a success
>for democracy.

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:17:44 PM11/15/09
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
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But venues aren't required to host groups of violent idiots.

And that pretty much describes the core of Mr. Irving's support.

> that the jews and other imbeciles do everything in their power to prevent
> him from doing so is an offense to democracy.

Mr. Irving did everything in his power to prevent other people from
discussing his works.

Why do you not object to that?

> leave the man alone andlet him do what he wants to do

Sorry, but when "what he wants to do" attracts armed goons who try to kill
each other, there are more important social issues.

-pk


Patrick Keenan

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:19:19 PM11/15/09
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It has nothing to do with "democracy", and Mr. Irving has a long history of
trying to prevent other people from discussing *his* work.

It's telling that you don't find his attempts to block the speech of others
as affronts to "democracy".

-pk


Patrick Keenan

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:19:51 PM11/15/09
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And it is interesting to see how very few of them there are.

Some of them apparently come just for the fights.


Kenneth McVay OBC

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Nov 15, 2009, 9:33:00 PM11/15/09
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[IRONY]

THAT IS NOT FAIR! There are only 19 million people in New York
City, and David "See you, Sue you" Irving played to TWENTY!

What an enormous achievement!
What amazing power this man has to draw a massive crowd!
TWENTY!
T-W-E-N-T-Y!!
T--W--E--N--T--Y!!!

Don't you DARE denegrate one of the finest achievments in the
life of David Irving!

Hey! Listen UP! It could have been NINETEEN!

[/IRONY]

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/

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"By refinishion you i mean you on their side definetly you
opinons are." (Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
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g/

I'll Always Be 15/11/09

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Nov 15, 2009, 10:57:54 PM11/15/09
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Can you provide proof that the meeting
actually occurred? There is nothing in
the newspapers about it happening and
they would be very interested in it.

I'll Always Be 15/11/09

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Nov 15, 2009, 10:59:36 PM11/15/09
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It has much in common with you...nothing

I'll Always Be 15/11/09

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So you admit the meeting never occurred.
Thank you

Heinrich

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what are you babbling about asif i would care about a meeting taking place
or not. irving may do whatever he wants to doand it serves him right to
tryto defend himself against crueljewish attacks

Heinrich

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>that is true.there are a lot of weirdos on this globe

Heinrich

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>it makes sense what you say

Heinrich

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heavy metal music is no music and the fact that it comes from america makes
it even worse

Heinrich

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>i take it that irving must have had good reasons for doing so

Heinrich

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contact your local mossad office in california

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:06:11 AM11/16/09
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But it was you that posted the lie that
the meeting happened when you knew it
hadn't.

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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Your posts are not news and the fact
they come from you guarantees it

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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So you can't, as usual, provide proof.

Heinrich

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i am getting a headache from you so go to bed

Heinrich

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it is gettinglate for you and that make your replies more childish so go to
bed and dream about irving

Heinrich

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why should i provide proof? i am not the one who is whining about proof

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:43:42 PM11/16/09
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You posted an article saying that the
meeting occurred. I want proof that you
aren't lying again

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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It is getting late for you and your
alcohol consumption has obviously
impaired your already faint grasp on
reality. Go to your stall and dream
sweet things about benji

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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Good and good

Heinrich

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why on earth did you wake up?

Heinrich

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it is 20,16 in the evening andpitch dark with no moon en i am enjoying
another glass of south africanwine. in fact i am often dreaming about you

Heinrich

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shut up with your whining doggie boi, grow an onion are get burried with
your nose down

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:34:14 PM11/16/09
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To torture you

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:34:51 PM11/16/09
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I'm way out of your league

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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I am not dutch

Heinrich

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it is earlyin themorning in california and yet you are thinking abour
torture?

Heinrich

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try to say it in the queen's english

Heinrich

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correct you would not even meet the minimum standards

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:58:27 PM11/16/09
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Yes, and the violence you see with Irving's supporters here is exactly why
Zundel came to the attention of Canadian security officials.

In the case of Canada, there were already so many people here who knew the
social harm of National Socialism through bitter direct personal experience
that Zundel could never gain any significant local following. The only
ones who would follow him were those who, unable to win through facts,
choose violence.

Patrick Keenan

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:03:00 PM11/16/09
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And those who wish to stop Mr. Irving from speaking must feel they have good
reasons - but you only criticise *them*.

Mr. Irving's reasons for attempting to suppress the speech of others most
likely were based on the reality that, once exposed as defective and false,
his books would not sell.

Examination of their work is a price that *all* historians must pay if they
wish to be taken seriously. It's called peer review and is completely
normal.

Why should Mr. Irving get away without the same scrutiny?


I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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I wasn't until you asked

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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Oh I could easily afford the 5 euro bribe

I'll Always Be 16/11/09

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You are admitting that you are a queen?

ZuLu

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Patrick Keenan escribi�:

> "Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
> news:7m9n8sF...@mid.individual.net...
>> a viustor of mr.irving's new york meetingpostedfollowing comment
>> Just got home from the SUCCESSFUL NYC talk by famed British historian
>> David Irving! A major success!
>
> Interesting that an audience of 20 is trumpted as "a major success!".
>
> I'd call that a clear sign that hardly anybody buys the "revisionist" crap
> if they have any options.
>
> *Anvil* drew bigger crowds on their worst European tours.
>
> -pk

An objective observer would wonder why such noise in New York, then, to forbid such a
little meeting with only 20 people as audience?
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=20091113134234537

Patrick Keenan

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Do try to keep up. The meeting wasn't forbidden and was held. His message
just doesn't appeal to more than a vanishingly small percentage of the
population.

However, given that Irving's supporters can suddenly try to kill *each
other*, it won't be surprising if venue owners don't want anything to do
with him.

At the moment, Mr. Irving's few remaining supporters are his biggest
problem.

-pk


I'll Always Be 17/11/09

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An objective revisionist would
acknowledge that the meeting was not
forbidden and actually took place. After
all it was called by all concerned "A
big success", wasn't it?

Heinrich

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i did not ask that i onkly asked why you woke upto whiuch you replied by
saying to torture you

Heinrich

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>okme keenan, lucky for you i agree with you

Heinrich

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a typicalamerican arsehole reply

Heinrich

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>correct me if i am wrong but from what i readinin revvisionists fora the
>support for irving is deminishing

Heinrich

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considering the treatment europeans get fromyou homeland people you
americans are getting the sdame treatment when they are passing customs

Petito

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Heinrich wrote:
> a viustor of mr.irving's new york meetingpostedfollowing comment
> Just got home from the SUCCESSFUL NYC talk by famed British historian
> David Irving! A major success! Mr. Irving and his entourage contacted
> the faithful earlier than expected, Antifa had planned a 5:30 pm
> meeting to discuss how to best disrupt the 7:00 PM meeting. We
> however met at a new location at 4:00 PM. All went well, very smooth

> Mr. Irving charming a small audience of about 20 in an intimate
> atmosphere. After about 45 minutes I heard a sudden explosion, a mob
> of what sounded like 15-20 lunatics screaming "Nazis must go" and I
> instictively jumped out of my chair to the sound of Mr.Irving
> commanding "Close the door"! Myself and two other brave attendees
> closed the doors[with no locks] just in time as approximately 20
> COMMIE JUDEN SWINE proceeded to attempt to kick the doors down and
> enter the premises. We held the mob at bay for about 20 minutes, the
> flimsy doors with God's help staying in position so no satanic juden
> devil was able to penetrate,despite their relentless attempt to kick
> the doors in. Unbeknownst to us at the door, two of our people were
> in the hallway when the demons attacked and were pepper-sprayed but I
> am happy to report that they are well and doing fine. The police were
> called, hotel security evacuated the scumbags and the meeting
> proceeded as scheduled. DAVID IRVING IN NYC WAS A 100% SUCCESS!
> NOW, I put all you scumbags on the otherside of that door on notice;
>
> The next time David Irving is in NYC I will be there. However, I will
> not be inside, no, I will be outside with 5-6 righteous WNs which I
> will personally handpick. Be prepared to meet your maker next time
> because I promise, you won't be as lucky as you were tonight.


A grand total of 20 attendees!
What a triumph...NOT.


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Petito

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Heinrich wrote:
> "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
> news:VLmdnQKWvOHT953W...@supernews.com...

>> "Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
>> news:7mb4goF...@mid.individual.net...

>>>
>>> "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
>>> news:cYSdndaau4AEx53W...@supernews.com...

>>>> "Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:7m9ri3F...@mid.individual.net...

>>>>>
>>>>> "Patrick Keenan" <te...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
>>>>> news:JrqdnfyxFujOLWLX...@supernews.com...

>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:7m9n8sF...@mid.individual.net...

>>>>>>> a viustor of mr.irving's new york meetingpostedfollowing comment
>>>>>>> Just got home from the SUCCESSFUL NYC talk by famed British
>>>>>>> historian David Irving! A major success!
>>>>>>
>>> of noise the rest of your comments is not worth while to reply to
>>> at this moment
>>
>> irving is entitled to express his opinions as long as he wants, that

>> the jews and other imbeciles do everything in their power to prevent
>> him from doing so is an offense to democracy. leave the man alone

>> andlet him do what he wants to do

The right to protest is as much a right as free speech ,yet you seem to
object to it.


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While this is true, part of the reason is that Mr. Irving's work was
subjected to the same kind of scrutiny that the work of actual historians
is, despite his desperate efforts to prevent this from happening.

His work could not withstand this perfectly normal scrutiny, and its flaws,
errors and distortions were exposed.

This is the very type of in-depth questioning that Holocaust deniers and
"revisionists" claim to want, and it's telling that they - and you -
suddenly object to it when it exposes their own shortcomings.

Indeed, the fact that Mr. Irving sought to prevent people from speaking and
writing about his work, the fact that he sought to prohibit the free speech
that "revisionists" claim they seek is completely ignored or excused.
Suddenly, standards have to be different when it's a "revisionist" work
being examined.

So, tell us. Why should Mr. Irving's work, which are presented as history,
be exempted from perfectly normal scrutiny?

-pk

Heinrich

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> -pk a lot of words you are usingwhy is that?

Message has been deleted

george

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On Nov 19, 12:17 pm, Johannes von Ebersdorf <ebersd...@gmail.com>
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> Patrick, David Irving is the author of 30 books, while your
> accomplishments would have generous room on the back of a postage
> stamp. Why should I listen to you or to obvious partisans with an axe
> to grind?

And all of them are based upon lies.
Look at what happened with his book about the Narvik and Murmask
convoys.
PQ17 and PQ19 for instance.
The Officer Commanding those convoys successfully sued him because his
'book' was full of lies and libel.
His 'book' about the bombing of Nuremberg was a figment of a nazi
sympathisers imagination.
Thats the two I know of.
I don't hold out much hope for the rest of his 'literary' attempts

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I'll Always Be 19/11/09

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wrote:

You asked, I answered. What's your
problem?

I'll Always Be 19/11/09

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I thought you were dutch

I'll Always Be 19/11/09

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Wow, nothing escapes you, does it?

I'll Always Be 19/11/09

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not that you can prove yitz

george

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On Nov 20, 2:59 am, Johannes von Ebersdorf <ebersd...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The allied bombing campaign was a mass murder campaign that differed
> only from your accusations by the specific technique employed. Irving
> wrote a book specifically dedicated to Nürnberg, did he? I rather
> doubt it.

His book on Nuremberg was in relation to the War Crime trials. In the
opening chapter he makes some very bad claims about the bombing of the
same city the nazi used as their parade capitol.
A futile attempt to portray the prosecutors as being other than fair
minded!

The we have his attempt to rewrite history with his claims about
Dresden.
Put
Paperback Publisher: Ballantine Books (December 1972) Language:
English ISBN-10: 0345230329
into your search engine and read.

Heinrich

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donotthink but aplly for a job at the tsa

Heinrich

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lul

Heinrich

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it is pay back time old boy

Patrick Keenan

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Because the details are something you seem to be missing.

Do you need this drawn as stick men?

-pk


Patrick Keenan

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"Johannes von Ebersdorf" <eber...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Patrick, David Irving is the author of 30 books,

Which have not always passed academic scrutiny.

And by the way, size isn't everything in the publishing world. Lots of
people publish many crappy books.

> while your accomplishments would have generous room on the back of a
> postage
> stamp.

What I might or might not have done, which I would point out you are not
aware of, is not relevant to this.

> Why should I listen to you or to obvious partisans with an axe
> to grind?

One might point out that it's actually the detailed objections of real
historians to Mr. Irving's work that is at issue.

And that's an issue you seem to very much want to obscure.

I'm not sure I wonder why.

-pk

>>
>>-pk


Heinrich

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>you talk to much keenan. why donot you just say it in a few words instead
>of using hundreds of words

I'll Always Be 20/11/09

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Heinrich

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Christkindl Gluehwein

I'll Always Be 21/11/09

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Gesundheit

Heinrich

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ich danke Ihnen mein Freund

Gord McFee

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On 11/15/2009 1:58 AM, Heinrich wrote:

> a viustor of mr.irving's new york meetingpostedfollowing comment Just
> got home from the SUCCESSFUL NYC talk by famed British historian

> David Irving! A major success! Mr. Irving and his entourage contacted
> the faithful earlier than expected, Antifa had planned a 5:30 pm
> meeting to discuss how to best disrupt the 7:00 PM meeting. We

> however met at a new location at 4:00 PM. All went well, very smooth


> Mr. Irving charming a small audience of about 20 in an intimate
> atmosphere.

In other words, they tried to hide.

And Mr Irving drew 20 people out of a metropolitan area of 20,000,000.
Hey, that's successful all right.

ROTFL!

--
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time

Visit the Holocaust History Project
http://www.holocaust-history.org

Gord McFee

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On 11/19/2009 8:59 AM, Johannes von Ebersdorf wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:43:31 -0800 (PST), george <gbl...@hnpl.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 19, 12:17 pm, Johannes von Ebersdorf <ebersd...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, David Irving is the author of 30 books, while your
>>> accomplishments would have generous room on the back of a postage
>>> stamp. Why should I listen to you or to obvious partisans with an axe
>>> to grind?
>>
>> And all of them are based upon lies.
>

> LOL

The Skaliks answer. He can't address the issue, so he laughs.

> Another worthless generalization by somebody who would have trouble
> putting together a single sentence, let alone a book.

Books have been written showing how Irving falsified his history.

Petito

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Why do you never contribute anything of substance?


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Heinrich

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> On 11/15/2009 1:58 AM, Heinrich wrote:
>
>> a viustor of mr.irving's new york meetingpostedfollowing comment Just
>> got home from the SUCCESSFUL NYC talk by famed British historian
>> David Irving! A major success! Mr. Irving and his entourage contacted
>> the faithful earlier than expected, Antifa had planned a 5:30 pm
>> meeting to discuss how to best disrupt the 7:00 PM meeting. We
>> however met at a new location at 4:00 PM. All went well, very smooth
>> Mr. Irving charming a small audience of about 20 in an intimate
>> atmosphere.
>
> In other words, they tried to hide.
>
> And Mr Irving drew 20 people out of a metropolitan area of 20,000,000.
> Hey, that's successful all right.
>
> ROTFL!
>
> --
even adolf hitler started with a small group my friend

hein...@ruhrgasnet.de

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>--?
>PB1...@gmail.com
why do you call yourself petito?

Petito

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I can call myself what I like.
It's none of your business.


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Gord McFee

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I am sure Irving would love the comparison. Except that Irving is not
starting. He has been doing this for 40 years.

I'll Always Be 22/11/09

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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
wrote:

True, but someday you may get the hang
of it


> but aplly for a job at the tsa

Why, they've already done the general
public a service by recognizing you as
euro-trash and treating you appropriately

I'll Always Be 22/11/09

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You have already established you status,
no need to keep repeating it

I'll Always Be 22/11/09

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From keyboard nazis like you? LOL

Heinrich

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if it is true that he has been doing this for forty years thenone can say he
is doing something wrong

Heinrich

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beware !!! you are on the short list

Heinrich

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bal gehakt(meat ball)

Heinrich

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yankee go home and stat there

Don Ocean

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The Jewish asshole won't Aliyah to his homeland. No food stamps there.

Joe Bruno

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On Nov 22, 3:26 am, Don Ocean <oc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Heinrich wrote:
>
> > "I'll Always Be 22/11/09" <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> schreef in
> > berichtnews:aussies_suck-6B81...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
> >> In article
> >> <7mlkriF3i50s...@mid.individual.net>,
> >> "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> "I'll Always Be 19/11/09" <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> schreef in

> >>> bericht
> >>>news:aussies_suck-45CF...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
> >>> > In article
> >>> > <7mf0uoF3ho5q...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> > "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>> >> "I'll Always Be 16/11/09" <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> schreef in

> >>> >> bericht
> >>> >>news:aussies_suck-3993...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
> >>> >> > In article
> >>> >> > <7mdoluF3gaoq...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> >> > "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
> >>> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> "I'll Always Be 16/11/09" <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid>

> >>> schreef in
> >>> >> >> bericht
> >>> >> >>news:aussies_suck-AED1...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
> >>> >> >> > In article
> >>> >> >> > <7mdms2F3h2sd...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> >> >> > "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
> >>> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >> "I'll Always Be 16/11/09" <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid>

> >>> schreef >> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> bericht
> >>> >> >> >>news:aussies_suck-BCC7...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
> >>> >> >> >> > In article
> >>> >> >> >> > <7mccqcF3gv54...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> >> >> >> > "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
> >>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >> >> "I'll Always Be 16/11/09" <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid>

> >>> >> >> >> >> schreef
> >>> >> >> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> >> bericht
>
> >>>news:aussies_suck-B4D8...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
> >>> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >>> >> >> >> >> > <7mc3j0F3hqhj...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> >> >> >> >> > "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> "I'll Always Be 15/11/09" <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid>

> >>> >> >> >> >> >> schreef
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> bericht
>
> >>>news:aussies_suck-386C...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <7mb4goF3hqj5...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>news:cYSdndaau4AEx53W...@supernews.com...
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in message
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >news:7m9ri3F...@mid.individual.net...
>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> schreef in bericht
>
> >>>news:JrqdnfyxFujOLWLX...@supernews.com...
>
> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Heinrich" <Heinr...@Ruhrgasnet.de> wrote in >>
> The Jewish asshole won't Aliyah to his homeland. No food stamps there.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It's beyond my understanding how anyone can take you seriously.
You're just a silly clown.

Don Ocean

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What a comment from s tubby little guy that wears a suite of armor and
looks like a wrecked Yugo. ;-p

Joe Bruno

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> looks like a wrecked Yugo. ;-p- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

This little guy learned hand to hand combat from the Marines he served
with.
The Marines don't box with opponents-they disable them.

Heinrich

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wow !!! so you are a rea lfighting machine

Joe Bruno

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> wow !!! so you are a rea lfighting machine- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I know how to put somebody out of action quickly.

Heinrich

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oke deal with ocean to the best of your ability

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