Wanted: Humane way to kill a dog. NOT
saundra newton
In <4mor7d$7...@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> page...@ix.netcom.com(Ken
M.) writes:
>
>In <lynnia.68...@vaxxine.com> lyn...@vaxxine.com (Mark & Lynnda
>Sheward) writes:
>>
>>>2. Get a paint-ball gun like the ones used for playing paint ball.
>>>Load it with red paint and fire it at the side of the loose dog. We
>>>have never had to "shoot" a loose dog twice, The owner gets the idea
>>>that their dog might just get shot for real really quick. Further
>>>there is no place for them to complain that their dog was "shot"
with paint, after all there is a law against letting your dog run
loose.
>>>Calling the sheriff or animal control will only get them told to put
>>>their dog up. Actually shoting the dog will get you jail time,
>>>"painting" it will get the dog put up.
(snipped)
>>>Oh, this is a idea I have never heard of, and I like it.Where would
>one get a gunlike this and what do they cost.
>>>Messy for the dog(and owner)but doesn't harm anyone, very creative.
>>(smipped)
>I'm sorry Lynnda but I can't believe what I am reading. Did you
>read this correctly...you think it is OK to shoot paint guns at
>wandering dogs? You must be kidding. What if that dog is *lost*
>and trying to get back home. Personally I belive anyone who shoot
>any type of gun (paint,bb,pellet,etc) should be incarcerated!
>
>=KEN=
The originial point of this post was to deal with "well known"
neighborhood dogs that were deliberatly let run loose. Assuming that
loose dogs are a problem in your neighborhood, this is an excellent
method of making the point to the "inconsiderate" jerks that own the
dog without doing any real harm to the dog. *lost* dogs were obviously
not the focus of the original post, there is considerable difference
between an occasional *lost* dog and dogs that are deliberatly turned
out by their slobs of owners. No one has the right to let their dog
run loose and a large red paint spot on the side of the dog gets the
attention of the owner.
Ken M.
In <lynnia.68...@vaxxine.com> lyn...@vaxxine.com (Mark & Lynnda
Sheward) writes:
>
>>2. Get a paint-ball gun like the ones used for playing paint ball.
>>Load it with red paint and fire it at the side of the loose dog. We
>>have never had to "shoot" a loose dog twice, The owner gets the idea
>>that their dog might just get shot for real really quick. Further
>>there is no place for them to complain that their dog was "shot" with
>>paint, after all there is a law against letting your dog run loose.
>>Calling the sheriff or animal control will only get them told to put
>>their dog up. Actually shoting the dog will get you jail time,
>>"painting" it will get the dog put up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
one
>>get a gunlike this and what do they cost.
>>Messy for the dog(and owner)but doesn't harm anyone, very creative.
>
a few
>things for anyone not knowing anything about them.
>
> Paintball guns can be dangerous. Yes, you are only firing little
balls of
>paint, but if one of those balls of paint hits a person/dog/animal in
the eye,
>it can cause damage. That's why on a registered paintball field, you
are
>never allowed onto the field unless you are wearing a mask to protect
you.
>Granted, the eye is small and the rest of the dog is big, but you CAN
miss...
>just wanted to mention that. However, if your aim is good, you will
not hit
>him in the face.
> Being hit with a paintball does hurt. But it doesn't hurt badly
(except in
>a vulnerable spot) and it doesn't cause permanent damage (again,
except in the
>eyes) and the resulting welt will go away within a few days. on a
dog,
>protected by fur, it will still hurt, but it will only be enough of a
sting to
>startle the dog and make it run.
> This is a good idea for those of you having problems with wandering
dogs,
>but please don't shoot the guns at point blank range. That hurts A
LOT and
>the message will get across from being shot from further away the same
as up
>close.
> Don't know if that told anyone anything, but good luck to those of
you who
>decide to use this method. Paintball guns can be expensive too, but a
little
>pistol one should be sufficient for your purposes and you can
generally find
>one used for about $50.00 Canadian.
>
> Pats to all good dogs,
>
> Lynnda, Jake and Ellie, who all go to the paintball field, but stay
off of
>the field because they haven't made masks for dogs yet. Although Jake
would
>be an excellent squeegee carrier.
Ken M.
as you don't hit them in the eyes...and don't shoot the dogs at
point blank range. Of course, since the dog is protected by fur
it will only sting. And those painful welts will certainly go
away in a few days. And make sure you wear a face mask when you
do it! (to protect yourself or hide from being identified?)
See, this is what I mean. My dog was hit by a car and everyone
jumps in my face. This person tells you it's OK to shoot the
stray dogs...just don't hit their eyes...and that's OK.
This is sick! And the rest of you just sit there and watch...
it must be perfectly OK to do this. Did you see the subject:
Humane Way To Kill A Dog?
Oh yes...you are all animal lovers!
=KEN=
un...@iap.net.au
> Pats to all good dogs,
>I'm sorry Lynnda but I can't believe what I am reading. Did you
>read this correctly...you think it is OK to shoot paint guns at
>wandering dogs? You must be kidding. What if that dog is *lost*
>and trying to get back home. Personally I belive anyone who shoot
>any type of gun (paint,bb,pellet,etc) should be incarcerated!
>=KEN=
Hey CHILL, dude. They didn't say they went out to HUNT
for dogs. If it's a dog that _needs_ to carry the message back
to its owner, like one you know belongs to an irresponsible
dipshit up the street, and you're tired of getting "sprayed"
by your lawnmower, etc. then I say fair game.
Once again, one of the main tenets of this group is that it is
the OWNER of the dog that needs to be educated, and we
do NOT condone taking our aggressions out on the hapless
animal.
Uncle Brian
Dillon Pyron
A paintball can cause significant injury to the dog, including possible broken
bones or internal injuries. In addition, the shooter can be sued for injury to
an animal, and even prosecuted.
Call animal control out on the dog. This is the only reasonable solution. If
they won't pick the dog up, live trap it and take it in to your local animal
shelter.
dillon
George Worthington
OH PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE KEN!
Don't want to hurt the little puppy with paintball gun? Myself I think
its a GREAT IDEA! I go running every day and I can't count the number of
times people are walking their little "he won't hurt anyone" dogs who
bare their teeth at me as I jog past. Yes I have had several nipping at
my heels who are very intent on biting. A paintball shot into their
"cute" little head should take care of them without causing any damage.
I have considered using a small caliber handgun, but you need a concealed
weapons permit to carry the things. A small paintball gun will do the
deed without all of the legal nonsense.
Great idea Lynda!
George
--
carolyn
page...@ix.netcom.com(Ken M.) wrote:
>
> In <lynnia.68...@vaxxine.com> lyn...@vaxxine.com (Mark & Lynnda
> Sheward) writes:
> >
> >>2. Get a paint-ball gun like the ones used for playing paint ball.
> >>Load it with red paint and fire it at the side of the loose dog. We
> >>have never had to "shoot" a loose dog twice, The owner gets the idea
> >>that their dog might just get shot for real really quick. Further
> >>there is no place for them to complain that their dog was "shot" with
> >>paint, after all there is a law against letting your dog run loose.
> >>Calling the sheriff or animal control will only get them told to put
> >>their dog up. Actually shoting the dog will get you jail time,
> >>"painting" it will get the dog put up.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>Oh, this is a idea I have never heard of, and I like it.Where would
> one
> >>get a gunlike this and what do they cost.
> >>Messy for the dog(and owner)but doesn't harm anyone, very creative.
> >
> > My fiance is a dealer in these guns and I think I should point out
> a few
> >things for anyone not knowing anything about them.
> >
> you who
> >decide to use this method. Paintball guns can be expensive too, but a
> little
> >pistol one should be sufficient for your purposes and you can
> generally find
> >one used for about $50.00 Canadian.
> >
> >
> off of
> >the field because they haven't made masks for dogs yet. Although Jake
> would
> >be an excellent squeegee carrier.
> >
> >
> >
> read this correctly...you think it is OK to shoot paint guns at
> wandering dogs? You must be kidding. What if that dog is *lost*
> and trying to get back home. Personally I belive anyone who shoot
> any type of gun (paint,bb,pellet,etc) should be incarcerated!
>
> =KEN=
You people perpetuating this idea that it's okay to administer
pain to an innocent animal are warped. Have you ever been hit by
a paint ball? It can be incredibly painful. I suggest y'all strip
down to the bare ass, bend over, let a friend shoot you in the
buttocks with a paintball, then repost when you know how it feels.
whit...@alpha.c2.org
I have been lurking on this group (a.r) for a while, and this made my
blood boil, so I had to put finger to keyboard to tell you what I think.
ANY one who shoots ANY dog for ANY reason using ANY type of gun,
is totally sick and depraved, these sad bastards that indulge in this
sick practice, should have done to them what they planned to do to the
poor harmless dog!!
It's the owners you want to get revenge on, not the poor dog, leave
the dogs alone!!!!
Find some other method of revenge that does not involve attacking
the victims dogs. Their is NO justification for attacking ANY animal
for ANY reason!!!
Whitewolf.
jjar...@dibbs.net
saundra newton wrote:
> The originial point of this post was to deal with "well known"
> neighborhood dogs that were deliberatly let run loose. Assuming that
> loose dogs are a problem in your neighborhood, this is an excellent
> method of making the point to the "inconsiderate" jerks that own the
> dog without doing any real harm to the dog. *lost* dogs were obviously
> not the focus of the original post, there is considerable difference
> between an occasional *lost* dog and dogs that are deliberatly turned
> out by their slobs of owners. No one has the right to let their dog
> run loose and a large red paint spot on the side of the dog gets the
> attention of the owner.
Yes, but what kind of attention from the owner? Does anyone know if
this is legal? I can just see some "slob" owner suing someone because
the dog was shot with a paintball. I have read about owners suing
someone who shot their dog with BB/pellet guns. I know they cause more
damage than paint guns, but what keeps these guys from suing under those
same grounds? It just sounds a little too risky for my taste. Not to
mention the admitedly remote chance that you could actually hurt the
dog. Sounds to me like the safest way to get rid of a pesky roaming dog
is to call the dog catcher and let them take it to the pound. That too
gets the owner's attention with the $40 bail they have to pay to get the
dog back.
- Wolffe (who doesn't like guns of any kind)
saundra newton
In <1996050918...@infinity.c2.org> whit...@alpha.c2.org
writes:
> I have been lurking on this group (a.r) for a while, and this made
my blood boil, so I had to put finger to keyboard to tell you what I
think.
>
> ANY one who shoots ANY dog for ANY reason using ANY type of gun,
>is totally sick and depraved, these sad bastards that indulge in this
>sick practice, should have done to them what they planned to do to the
>poor harmless dog!!
>
Dear Whitewolf:
How harmless is that wonderful dog when it is killing my baby goats, or
pulling down some little girl's pet geese. A loose dog is a hazard to
every thing around it. They are dogs, they do things that dogs do. As
for getting revenge on the owners that is what the paintball is for.
It lets the owners know that the next time their dog is running loose
it may not be so lucky. And by luck I mean that it could be hit by a
car, get in a fight with a bigger, meaner dog, or if it is attacking
stock or killing someone else's pet, it could be killed. It is very
nice to think that the dog, only doing what dogs do, should not be
punished, however given the number of irresponsible owners that don't
give a d**m about their dogs, which is the case with anyone that lets a
dog run loose, it is unlikely that they will keep their dog up. If
they wanted to be reasonable, rational people they wouldn't let their
dog run loose to start with, so good luck getting them to do anything.
And animal control, in most areas, only work certain hours, they don't
come out early in the morning and late in the evening, nor do they come
out on the weekend. And that assumes you know who owns the dog.
As for paintballs hurting, yes they sting. I play the game. However
dogs have fur and hide which prevent much of the sting. And further,
it hurts a hell of a lot less to be hit with a paintball that to be hit
by a car and let to die by the side of the road, have your leg caught
in a trap for days on end, be hit over the head with a shovel, baseball
bat, or shot. All of these things happen to loose dogs. A paintball
is the least of the things that might happen, but it can get the owners
attention quickly.
Ken M.
saundra newton
In <319277...@dibbs.net> jjar...@dibbs.net writes:
>Wolffe wrote:
>Yes, but what kind of attention from the owner? Does anyone know if
>this is legal? I can just see some "slob" owner suing someone because
>the dog was shot with a paintball. I have read about owners suing
>someone who shot their dog with BB/pellet guns. I know they cause
more damage than paint guns, but what keeps these guys from suing under
those same grounds? It just sounds a little too risky for my taste.
Not to mention the admitedly remote chance that you could actually hurt
the >dog. Sounds to me like the safest way to get rid of a pesky
roaming dog is to call the dog catcher and let them take it to the
pound. That too >gets the owner's attention with the $40 bail they
have to pay to get the >dog back.
>- Wolffe (who doesn't like guns of any kind)
Wolffe:
Here is the problem, many of these dogs are running when there is no
animal control available, or you call animal control and by the time
they arrive there isn't a dog in sight.
As for being sued, here is the thing: anyone, if they can get a lawyer
stupid enought to do it, can sue you for any thing they can think of.
This does not mean that they can collect and a very good way to stop
this is to counter sue, ask for your attorney fees and also ask for
sanctions against the lawyer for filing a frivilous case. The asking
for sanctions will "wake" up the lawyer in a hurry. No case, you get
your fees back and the other party learns that suing for junk reasons
can cost money. Further, there is little chance that you can be sued
for "painting" a dog.
Since I don't know anythng about the case you cited, I really can't
comment, however generally speaking you only have a case if the dog was
injured for no reason and was on your property.
Saundra
Ken M.
In <4muc8n$n...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> als...@ix.netcom.com(saundra
Whether or not any of us own guns (real,bb.pellet,paint) can we
now assume it's just not a "good idea" to shoot a wandering dog
with a paint gun?
I have spoken to a licensed gun dealer and he agrees with me that
the force in using a paint pellet gun (Co2 powered) could most
certainly harm a dog.
I am not so sure such a suit would be dismissed so easily as it
is unlawful to discharge ANY type of gun in a residential area.
=KEN=
George Worthington
>=KEN=
Well I will agree with you on this point. I certainly would not just
shoot a "wandering dog". As long as it minds his own business I wouldn't
have a problem with the animal.
George
--
George Worthington
Dillon,
A lot of good its going to do to call Animal control when an animal is in
the process of attacking you! I will have to say that the OWNER will be
the one getting sued for damages caused by his/her uncontrolled dog.
I'll stand by my original statement that the paintball gun is an
excellent way to prevent any personal injuries from dog attack.
I can't believe that you and Ken would want a person to get attacked
first and then do something about it! And thats exactly what you are
saying when you state that a person shouldn't carry any personal
protection against animals. I run every day and have to deal with this
at least once a week. I've carried pepper spray and it just doesn't have
the range to get into a dogs eyes where it will do the most good. And I
don't feel like wrestling with the animal just to get him to open his
eyes so I can spray him.
No its no the dogs fault that he is aggressive. Typically the owners
encourage it from their animals so they can be "protective". Well their
"protective" animals will get them sued extremely quick if the animals
attack the wrong person.
And if the owners want to sue me for protecting myself, we will see who
will prevail in court.
George
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mystica...@colint.com
Animal control.. ehehe Funny.. And then they think their dog is lost,
it sits at the pound for a week, and they gas it (Humane, eh? Not
quite).. I've had several a dog get taken to the pound, and by no means
will they spare a dog or cat (or anything else at that) for anything..
imdudley
Okay, here's the easy solution for all those who want to paint the dog red to
send a message to the owner AND all those who oppose painting said dog red
with a paintball gun. Make friends with the dog, bring out a can of red paint
and a brush, and while rubbing the beast's belly (dogs that aren't rabid LOVE
this) take the brush, dip into the can of paint, and then dab a bit of paint
on the dog. No welts, no weapons discharge, no grounds for a lawsuit.
Obviously, if the dog is dangerous or you can't get near it, this won't work.
Doug & Rose Miller
whit...@alpha.c2.org wrote:
+ I have been lurking on this group (a.r) for a while, and this made my
+blood boil, so I had to put finger to keyboard to tell you what I think.
+
+ ANY one who shoots ANY dog for ANY reason using ANY type of gun,
+is totally sick and depraved, these sad bastards that indulge in this
+sick practice, should have done to them what they planned to do to the
+poor harmless dog!!
+
+ It's the owners you want to get revenge on, not the poor dog, leave
+the dogs alone!!!!
+
+ Find some other method of revenge that does not involve attacking
+the victims dogs. Their is NO justification for attacking ANY animal
+for ANY reason!!!
+
+Whitewolf.
Yes there is: to defend a human being or another animal. Any stray dog
found in my pasture receives a high-speed lead injection if it's anywhere
near my livestock. Or my children.
Doug & Rose Miller
jjar...@dibbs.net wrote:
+saundra newton wrote:
+> The originial point of this post was to deal with "well known"
+> neighborhood dogs that were deliberatly let run loose. Assuming that
+> loose dogs are a problem in your neighborhood, this is an excellent
+> method of making the point to the "inconsiderate" jerks that own the
+> dog without doing any real harm to the dog. *lost* dogs were obviously
+> not the focus of the original post, there is considerable difference
+> between an occasional *lost* dog and dogs that are deliberatly turned
+> out by their slobs of owners. No one has the right to let their dog
+> run loose and a large red paint spot on the side of the dog gets the
+> attention of the owner.
+
+Yes, but what kind of attention from the owner? Does anyone know if
+this is legal? I can just see some "slob" owner suing someone because
+the dog was shot with a paintball. I have read about owners suing
+someone who shot their dog with BB/pellet guns. I know they cause more
+damage than paint guns, but what keeps these guys from suing under those
+same grounds? It just sounds a little too risky for my taste. Not to
+mention the admitedly remote chance that you could actually hurt the
+dog. Sounds to me like the safest way to get rid of a pesky roaming dog
+is to call the dog catcher and let them take it to the pound. That too
+gets the owner's attention with the $40 bail they have to pay to get the
+dog back.
+- Wolffe (who doesn't like guns of any kind)
Try calling the dogcatcher after 5pm or on a weekend.
Doug & Rose Miller
for some unknown reason, carolyn <car...@seanet.com> wrote:
+You people perpetuating this idea that it's okay to administer
+pain to an innocent animal are warped. Have you ever been hit by
+a paint ball? It can be incredibly painful. I suggest y'all strip
+down to the bare ass, bend over, let a friend shoot you in the
+buttocks with a paintball, then repost when you know how it feels.
This is relevant to the question of shooting dogs with paintballs
only if you assume that the dogs have been shaved first, so that
they *also* have bare asses.
Have you ever been bitten by a dog? It can be incredibly painful.
I suggest y'all strip down to the bare ass, bend over, let a friend's
dog bite you on both cheeks, then repost when you know how it feels.
carolyn
abatement for a high-velocity projectile? I made the "bare ass"
statement assuming most humans have a bare ass, but we'll assume
yours is hairy, and your knuckles drag.
We've gone from revenge on barking dogs to defending youself
against a ferocious biting animal. Big difference. *Read* before
you post about hurting animals with your big guns.
carolyn
cam...@usa.pipeline.com(What's Up Doc? ~) wrote:
>
> On May 09, 1996 17:59:52 in article <Re: re: Wanted: Humane way to kill a
> dog. NOT>, 'carolyn <car...@seanet.com>' wrote: ... Have you ever been
> hit by a paint ball? It can be incredibly painful. I suggest y'all strip
> down to the bare ass, bend over, let a friend shoot you in the buttocks
>
> Well, Carolyn, perhaps it would have hurt a lot less if you did not bend
> over with bare buttocks. No criticism, mind you, to each their own (do you
> have any pictures?).
>
> What's Up Doc? ~
>
> PS. I do not think anyone should shoot their dogs bare ass (theirs or
> their dogs) with paint balls (alluring as it may sound). However, if this
> is a ritual commonly practiced among any legally protected cultural groups,
> please disregard my opinion. No offense was intended.
As I recall, this whole thread started by someone wanting to mute
a barking dog. It escalated into ways to kill the dog, and not
deal with the humans responsible for it. I still think anyone
who advocates using a paintball gun needs to get an idea how it
feels be it on the bare ass, or any place else.
mystica...@colint.com
carolyn wrote:
> Are you implying a thin layer of fur/hair would act as a pain
> abatement for a high-velocity projectile? I made the "bare ass"
> statement assuming most humans have a bare ass, but we'll assume
> yours is hairy, and your knuckles drag.
You also have to remember that dogs don't have the regular skin on their
butts that a human has.. They have what is called hide.. Hide is a thinck
skin.. They have this so that when something much like a paintball or bb
DOES hit them, it doesn't hurt quite as much.
Now, put yer undies back on, pull up your pants, THEN have a friend shoot you
in the butt with a paintball from about 50 feet or so.
kal...@be3038.be.ford.com
I wouldn't do it the first time I see a dog, maybe the 10th time. GET EM!! it's the owner's fault, hopefulyl the dog will go home with wet paint and get it on the owner's stuff (couch, clothes, floor, carpet, etc...)
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In <Dr3EG...@txnews.amd.com> py...@dvorak.amd.com (Dillon Pyron)
writes:
>
>
>A paintball can cause significant injury to the dog, including
possible broken
>bones or internal injuries. In addition, the shooter can be sued for
injury to
>an animal, and even prosecuted.
I just received a call from a friend who has been reading this
subject and he claims that paintball guns "CAN" kill a dog
without any effort! Does anyone know for sure how safe the
paintball guns really are?
=KEN=
carolyn
It depends on the size of the dog, but it would cause injury
and/or a great deal of pain to any dog. A small dog may be
killed, depending on the distance in which the gun was fired.
I had the unique experience of going on a paint ball adventure
with several members of the LAPD. Some of the biggest machos cops
winced in pain when hit. Okay, who invited Bob from S.W.A.T.? <G>
Sa...@net.net
Do not use paint pellet guns! Use a shot gun with rock salt loads in
it. MUCH more effective!
>|> I'm sorry Lynnda but I can't believe what I am reading. Did you
>|> read this correctly...you think it is OK to shoot paint guns at
>|> wandering dogs? You must be kidding. What if that dog is *lost*
>|> and trying to get back home. Personally I belive anyone who shoot
>|> any type of gun (paint,bb,pellet,etc) should be incarcerated!
>|>
>|> =KEN=
>I agree paintball guns are dangerous to shoot at dogs. In a case like that "spray paint" the side of the dog and the owner should get the message.
>I wouldn't do it the first time I see a dog, maybe the 10th time. GET EM!! it's the owner's fault, hopefulyl the dog will go home with wet paint and get it on the owner's stuff (couch, clothes, floor, carpet, etc...)
-Savik
Sa...@net.net
This ia all bull crap..PAINT ball guns WIL NOT kill a dog. THey hurt
but do not kill. UNless the dog is perhaps a new born.
ANyhow...don't risk pissing an owner off in the first place. Just do
like i do. When a dog is wandering around on my property i should the
sucker dead and throw him under a big tree I have in the back pasture.
I must have ten or so dogs there by now. Then you don't have to worry
about getting sued, etc. Or the dumb dog ever coming back. If you
live in an area where you can't shoot the dog then just trap him and
then kill it with a baseball bat.
-Savik
Paal Ditlefsen Ekran
Stardate Fri, 17 May 1996 21:53:58 GMT, Sa...@net.net wrote in alt.revenge:
:> >with several members of the LAPD. Some of the biggest machos cops
:> >winced in pain when hit. Okay, who invited Bob from S.W.A.T.? <G>
:> This ia all bull crap..PAINT ball guns WIL NOT kill a dog. THey hurt
:> but do not kill. UNless the dog is perhaps a new born.
This is true, I once shot a bird with a PB gun [it was an accident, I swear!].
Anyways, the bird flew away, surprised but highly alive.
I really would not even cosider using PB [weapons] for the purpose of revenge -
as I classify it as a gun, and therefore something that should be left out of a
revenge scheme.. like bombs and stuff.. but then again there are enough people
crazy enought to do bombs - I just don't see the point.
:> I must have ten or so dogs there by now. Then you don't have to worry
:> about getting sued, etc. Or the dumb dog ever coming back. If you
:> live in an area where you can't shoot the dog then just trap him and
:> then kill it with a baseball bat.
There are several schemes for vengance upon a dog, in the avenger's handbook,
and they don't hurt the innocent animal.
followups directed towards alt.revenge.
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Steve Barnard
Sa...@net.net wrote:
>
> >page...@ix.netcom.com(Ken M.) wrote:
> >>
> >> In <Dr3EG...@txnews.amd.com> py...@dvorak.amd.com (Dillon Pyron)
> >> writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >A paintball can cause significant injury to the dog, including
> >> possible broken
> >> >bones or internal injuries. In addition, the shooter can be sued for
> >> injury to
> >> >an animal, and even prosecuted.
> >> >dillon
> >>
> >> I just received a call from a friend who has been reading this
> >> subject and he claims that paintball guns "CAN" kill a dog
> >> without any effort! Does anyone know for sure how safe the
> >> paintball guns really are?
> >> =KEN=
>
> >It depends on the size of the dog, but it would cause injury
> >and/or a great deal of pain to any dog. A small dog may be
> >killed, depending on the distance in which the gun was fired.
>
> >I had the unique experience of going on a paint ball adventure
> >winced in pain when hit. Okay, who invited Bob from S.W.A.T.? <G>
>
> This ia all bull crap..PAINT ball guns WIL NOT kill a dog. THey hurt
> but do not kill. UNless the dog is perhaps a new born.
> like i do. When a dog is wandering around on my property i should the
> sucker dead and throw him under a big tree I have in the back pasture.
> about getting sued, etc. Or the dumb dog ever coming back. If you
> live in an area where you can't shoot the dog then just trap him and
> then kill it with a baseball bat.
>
I hope that everyone in this newsgroup has the good sense not to reply
to this kind of thing.
howpa@.epix.net
In Article <Sa...@net.net> writes:
>> If you live in an area where you can't shoot the dog then just trap him
>>and then kill it with a baseball bat.
>>
>> -Savik
Get some counseling, dude.
ho...@ahbqs.com
Oh, yeah, Steve Barnard <st...@megafauna.com>?
<Sa...@net.net wrote:
<>
<> >page...@ix.netcom.com(Ken M.) wrote:
<> >>
<> >> In <Dr3EG...@txnews.amd.com> py...@dvorak.amd.com (Dillon Pyron)
<> >> writes:
<> >> >
<> >> >
<> >> >A paintball can cause significant injury to the dog, including
<> >> possible broken
<> >> >bones or internal injuries. In addition, the shooter can be sued <>
<> injury to
<> >> >an animal, and even prosecuted.
<> >> >dillon
<> >>
<> >> I just received a call from a friend who has been reading this
<> >> subject and he claims that paintball guns "CAN" kill a dog
<> >> without any effort! Does anyone know for sure how safe the
<> >> paintball guns really are?
<> >> =KEN=
<>
<> >It depends on the size of the dog, but it would cause injury
<> >and/or a great deal of pain to any dog. A small dog may be
<> >killed, depending on the distance in which the gun was fired.
<>
<> >I had the unique experience of going on a paint ball adventure
<> >with several members of the LAPD. Some of the biggest machos cops
<> >winced in pain when hit. Okay, who invited Bob from S.W.A.T.? <G>
<>
<> This ia all bull crap..PAINT ball guns WIL NOT kill a dog. THey hurt
<> but do not kill. UNless the dog is perhaps a new born.
<> ANyhow...don't risk pissing an owner off in the first place. Just do
<> like i do. When a dog is wandering around on my property i should the
<> sucker dead and throw him under a big tree I have in the back pasture.
<> I must have ten or so dogs there by now. Then you don't have to worry
<> about getting sued, etc. Or the dumb dog ever coming back. If you
<> live in an area where you can't shoot the dog then just trap him and
<> then kill it with a baseball bat.
<>
<> -Savik
<
<I hope that everyone in this newsgroup has the good sense not to reply
<to this kind of thing.
I didn't.
Kloot Sak
What an incredible dork. Who but someone with a really big chip on his
shoulder would care about a dog wandering on his property. He's probably
some goofy little nerdy psychopath with lots of frustrations in his life.
Tom
This is merely a test, not a reply.
Thankyou
SBA
><> This ia all bull crap..PAINT ball guns WIL NOT kill a dog. THey
hurt
><> but do not kill. UNless the dog is perhaps a new born.
><> ANyhow...don't risk pissing an owner off in the first place. Just
do
><> like i do. When a dog is wandering around on my property i should
the
><> sucker dead and throw him under a big tree I have in the back
pasture.
><> I must have ten or so dogs there by now. Then you don't have to
worry
><> about getting sued, etc. Or the dumb dog ever coming back. If you
><> live in an area where you can't shoot the dog then just trap him
and
><> then kill it with a baseball bat.
><>
><> -Savik
><
><I hope that everyone in this newsgroup has the good sense not to
reply
><to this kind of thing.
>
>I didn't.
Actually, he does have a point...
Paul K.
Try using some WOOD alcohol and placing it in some food for the dog.
It'll metabolize into formaldehyde and "embalm" the dog alive. It will
die a slow, agonizing death.
G' day
Matt Terrill
Tom wrote:
>
> ho...@ahbqs.com wrote:
> >
> > Oh, yeah, Steve Barnard <st...@megafauna.com>?
> >
> > <Sa...@net.net wrote:
> > <>
> > <> >page...@ix.netcom.com(Ken M.) wrote:
> > <> >>
> > <> >> In <Dr3EG...@txnews.amd.com> py...@dvorak.amd.com (Dillon Pyron)
> > <> >> writes:
> > <> >> >
> > <> >> >
> > <> >> >A paintball can cause significant injury to the dog, including
> > <> >> possible broken
> > <> >> >bones or internal injuries. In addition, the shooter can be sued <>
> > <> injury to
> > <> >> >an animal, and even prosecuted.
> > <> >> >dillon
> > <> >>
> > <> >> I just received a call from a friend who has been reading this
> > <> >> subject and he claims that paintball guns "CAN" kill a dog
> > <> >> without any effort! Does anyone know for sure how safe the
> > <> >> paintball guns really are?
> > <> >> =KEN=
> > <>
> > <> >It depends on the size of the dog, but it would cause injury
> > <> >and/or a great deal of pain to any dog. A small dog may be
> > <> >killed, depending on the distance in which the gun was fired.
> > <>
> > <> >I had the unique experience of going on a paint ball adventure
> > <> >with several members of the LAPD. Some of the biggest machos cops
> > <> >winced in pain when hit. Okay, who invited Bob from S.W.A.T.? <G>
> > <>
> Thankyou
I killed abird with a cocker one time on accident.
Some...@nowhere.com
sbal...@ix.netcom.com(SBA ) wrote:
>><> This ia all bull crap..PAINT ball guns WIL NOT kill a dog. THey
>><I hope that everyone in this newsgroup has the good sense not to
>reply to this kind of thing.
>Actually, he does have a point...
What, at the top of his head?
andrew
you should try and get hold of a few mines and plant around the edge
of the perimeter of your property and when the dog decides too take a
walk on your garden or whatever BANG ,but theres a few problems he'll be
all over your house and garden which you dont want and if anyone stands on
on your land they'll get there leg blown off at least...
maybe this isnt such a good idea did you try
and see if asking nicely to the owner will he keep the dog of your land??
andrew
andrew
andrew
andrew
andrew
Steve Barnard
Could you post this perceptive observation once more? I didn't get your
point the first six times.
Steve Barnard
Hugh_P_Wa...@yelpingdoggies.edu
>> > <> >> I just received a call from a friend who has been reading this
>> > <> >> subject and he claims that paintball guns "CAN" kill a dog
>> > <> >> without any effort! Does anyone know for sure how safe the
>> > <> >> paintball guns really are?
>> > <> >> =KEN=
It really does depend on the size of the dog. Anything over about 10
pounds, and forget it. I nailed my ex-roomate's dog a few times after
it tore up the bathroom looking for dirty kleenex. When I shot him
the first time, at about 300fps, he just sat there with this stupid,
shitt-eating look on his face. So I cranked my Sniper up to about
450-500fps (no chrony... a Wes Wong sound test estimate...), right up
to the point where the seams were going in the barrel, and laid a few
on him. He never did react that much, but then again, it was a REALLY
stupid dog.
Sorry if you're reading this K.T. , but you know
how much everyone hates that damn dog...
Hugh_P_Wa...@yelpingdoggies.edu
Hugh_P_Wa...@Yelpingdoggies.edu wrote:
Actually, what was MUCH more effective was heating up his rawhide bone
in the barbeque for about 1/2 an hour and then playing fetch. Took
him a couple of times to figure that one out...
DR
Steve Barnard <st...@megafauna.com> wrote:
>andrew wrote:
>>
>> you should try and get hold of a few mines and plant around the edge
>> of the perimeter of your property
<snip>
>Could you post this perceptive observation once more? I didn't get your
>point the first six times.
Well, that weren't ALL the same! The formatting of the text was
different in a couple of those posts.
And that land mine idea. . . . . . this guy shouldn't have posted, he
should have PATENTED! Man, that is SUCH a good idea. Just plant
about as many mines as this guy did posts and you'll be well
protected.
David
osaka, japan
DR
sbal...@ix.netcom.com(SBA ) wrote:
>><> This ia all bull crap..PAINT ball guns WIL NOT kill a dog. THey
>hurt
>><> but do not kill. UNless the dog is perhaps a new born.
>><> ANyhow...don't risk pissing an owner off in the first place. Just
>do
>><> like i do. When a dog is wandering around on my property i should
>the
>><> sucker dead and throw him under a big tree I have in the back
>pasture.
>><> I must have ten or so dogs there by now. Then you don't have to
>worry
>><> about getting sued, etc. Or the dumb dog ever coming back. If you
>><> live in an area where you can't shoot the dog then just trap him
>and
>><> then kill it with a baseball bat.
>><>
>><> -Savik
>><
>><I hope that everyone in this newsgroup has the good sense not to
>reply
>><to this kind of thing.
>>
>>I didn't.
>
>Actually, he does have a point...
Oh my god, it is SUCH a pain to have a dog wander across your
property.
What are you, some kind of African Chiclid? (sp mine because you
don't even deserve my running the spell checker and that species of
fish isn't even in there and even if it were, you would miss the point
because you don't know shit about chiclids. But it's a tropical fish
that is VERY teritorial.)
If a dog running across your property, even shitting there upon, is
the worst thing that ever happens to you, you've led a very blessed
life.
Of which you should consider getting one.
David
osaka, japan
A devote disciple of the Tracker.
Who, BTW, is no more than a glorified drunk who uses the backspace key
even more than I.
Tracker
kec...@gol.com (DR) wrote:
>:sbal...@ix.netcom.com(SBA ) wrote:
>:David
>:osaka, japan
>:
>:A devote disciple of the Tracker.
>:
>:Who, BTW, is no more than a glorified drunk who uses the backspace key
>:even more than I.
>:
No I don't, I use it less than five times per sentence (none on -
never mind, one on that - OK two on this - three - one.)
Steve Alpert is OK actually, in fact I am a member of The Gang of
Steves (he knows me under a different ISP) . But lets' cut the cross
post.
For all the pet groups afflicted by this cross-posted message, we at
alt.revenge do not - say again DO NOT - advocate the injury of
innocent dogs. People who do so on our group are always flamed off
the net!. We do have some occasional loonies post, and cross post.
We will try to kill this one (crosspost, not dog).(sorry - a little
alt.revenge humor there)
As to paintball, I have always wanted to try that!
And, I am not a drunk, at least not quite yet!
Tracker
BROSIT!
--
In the Beginning, the Universe was created.
This was generally considered to be a bad move
and has pissed many people off.
Vandy
On Wed, 05 Jun 1996 13:53:19 GMT, kec...@gol.com (DR) wrote:
>sbal...@ix.netcom.com(SBA ) wrote:
>
>Oh my god, it is SUCH a pain to have a dog wander across your
>property.
>
Yes, the dogs are killing / injuring livestock on my farm.
Although, I would be happy with just finding some good ways to keep
the dogs away. Fencing is expensive and I am installing it now (about
a mile's worth). Short of killing the animals, what is your solution?
The dogs are killing my livestock which feed, clothe and shelter my
family. Also, my children can not play in our 10 acre yard without
these 'valued' pets of our neighbor's chasing them. We have dogs and
cats of our own. All of ours have been neutered, vaccinated, wormed
and restricted by pens or chains so as not to bother neighbors or
livestock or overpopulate the world.
Vandy Terre
va...@avana.net
Brad
Vandy wrote:
> Although, I would be happy with just finding some good ways to keep
> the dogs away. Fencing is expensive and I am installing it now (about
> a mile's worth). Short of killing the animals, what is your solution?
> The dogs are killing my livestock which feed, clothe and shelter my
> family. Also, my children can not play in our 10 acre yard without
> these 'valued' pets of our neighbor's chasing them. We have dogs and
> cats of our own. All of ours have been neutered, vaccinated, wormed
> and restricted by pens or chains so as not to bother neighbors or
> livestock or overpopulate the world.
>
> Vandy Terre
> va...@avana.net
Are these dogs mean, or can you approach them? If they are approachable,
catch them when they are on your property and then call animal control
who will make the owners pay $$$$ to get them back.
If the are mean, call animal control and tell them they chased your kids
on your property. In some locations that is enough to get the dogs
executed by the state.
In your case the best revenge may be legal, if your neighbors are anything better
then white trash you can sue them for anything their dogs do on your property.
Many 'personal injury' lawyers are interested in dog injury cases, especially
if the owners are homeowners with nice fat liability insurance policies.
I hate lawyers, but if you can make a buck with them, go for it.
If all else fails, get some Blackleaf-40.
--
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Chris & Jon
andrew wrote:
>
> you should try and get hold of a few mines and plant around the edge
> walk on your garden or whatever BANG ,but theres a few problems he'll be
> all over your house and garden which you dont want and if anyone stands on
> on your land they'll get there leg blown off at least...
> maybe this isnt such a good idea did you try
> and see if asking nicely to the owner will he keep the dog of your land??
>
I just hope that if this moron decides to go ahead with the mines idea,
Andrew is the first person he invites to check them out!
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moz...@infoflex.com.au
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un...@iap.net.au
va...@avana.net (Vandy) wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Jun 1996 13:53:19 GMT, kec...@gol.com (DR) wrote:
>>sbal...@ix.netcom.com(SBA ) wrote:
>>
>>Oh my god, it is SUCH a pain to have a dog wander across your
>>property.
>>
>Yes, the dogs are killing / injuring livestock on my farm.
>Although, I would be happy with just finding some good ways to keep
>the dogs away. Fencing is expensive and I am installing it now (about
>a mile's worth). Short of killing the animals, what is your solution?
>The dogs are killing my livestock which feed, clothe and shelter my
>family. Also, my children can not play in our 10 acre yard without
>these 'valued' pets of our neighbor's chasing them. We have dogs and
>cats of our own. All of ours have been neutered, vaccinated, wormed
>and restricted by pens or chains so as not to bother neighbors or
>livestock or overpopulate the world.
>Vandy Terre
>va...@avana.net
OK, so what's the response from the neighbor?
(The philosophy of this group is to concentrate on the
asshole-ishness of the human, not the dogs which are
only following their natural instink.)
What breed? (His and yours). Quantity each side?
What livestock? Large like horses/cattle, or dimutive
like goats/sheep? (Vulnerability).
Uncle Brian
Nicole
While I dropped out of this thread a while back. I apparently have the
same problem as this individual. I have ten acres and livestock and the
neighbors have two wandering dogs.
I have one French Alpine goat,pot-belly-pigs and piglets,horses(
Quarter horse mares with foals)TB yearlings,ponies, and several horses
from the racetrack to be reschooled. I fence with a combination of hot
wire and barbless wire.
My dogs are behind chain link,except for two. The dogs are an
acient foxhound,two mutts, a very small terrier-who is also paralyzed in
her left front leg, and a German Shepherd. the terrier and the GSD are
the only two ever out of the yard. They go with me in the fields etc.
The neighbor's dogs are a female Pitbull and a male Dalmation.
The owners do not think that there is any danger or anything wrong with
wandering dogs and that it is natural for them to chase other animals.
Nicole
>
> OK, so what's the response from the neighbor?
> (The philosophy of this group is to concentrate on the
> asshole-ishness of the human, not the dogs which are
> only following their natural instink.)
>
> What breed? (His and yours). Quantity each side?
>
> What livestock? Large like horses/cattle, or dimutive
> like goats/sheep? (Vulnerability).
>
> Uncle Brian
> OK, so what's the response from the neighbor?
> (The philosophy of this group is to concentrate on the
> asshole-ishness of the human, not the dogs which are
> only following their natural instink.)
>
> What breed? (His and yours). Quantity each side?
>
> What livestock? Large like horses/cattle, or dimutive
> like goats/sheep? (Vulnerability).
>
> Uncle Brian
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A 30-06 should do. That way you can miss the head and hit them in the
chest and still be sure of killing them all most instantly. A 30-30
might do but I don't think a chest shot would kill instantly so you
would have to hit the head. Pioson might work, but I don't know poisons
well so I couldn't recomend one that would kill humanely. A shot gun
should work well at close range. Again if you use a 12gauge with 00
buck it should kill all most instantly if you hit them in the head or
chest.