Re: Atheists were Responsible For The Crimes Of the USSR, Maoist China and every other atheist State!
fasgnadh
> On Sep 22, 10:57 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> WAS ATHEISM IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF COMMUNISM?
>> justify the evils perpetrated on tens of millions by the atheist leader, Stalin.
and an atheist thug willingly obliges, trying to justify the atheist
holocaust which killed over 30,000,000 people;
> there is no linkage between atheism and communist genocide.
Liar;
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;
The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
EVERY ATHEIST STATE WAS A MURDEROUS TOTALITARIAN TYRANNY;
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg
#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.
Syd
> zencycle wrote:
> > On Sep 22, 10:57 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> >> WAS ATHEISM IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF COMMUNISM?
> >> justify the evils perpetrated on tens of millions by the atheist leader, Stalin.
>
> and an atheist thug willingly obliges, trying to justify the atheist
> holocaust which killed over 30,000,000 people;
>
> > there is no linkage between atheism and communist genocide.
>
> Liar;
>
Yes, Failednuts, we know you are.
You don't have to keep reminding us.
PDW
fasgnadh
> On Sep 22, 1:11 pm, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> J wrote:
>>> WAS ATHEISM IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF COMMUNISM?
>>
>> Ask the atheist responsible;
>>
>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
Under Mao's atheist regime the Great Leap backward and Cultural
Devolution killed over 30,000,000 people, churches and temples were
destroyed and Religion proscribed.
In 1982 "religion was no longer proscribed, ..the constitution was
amended to allow Chinese people considerable freedom of religion."
China was no longer an atheist regime, it began to prosper and
make progress. It is still a Communist government.
> There is plenty wrong with Communism,
Not as much as with atheism, clearly. B^]
> but there is nothing wrong with
> breathing
Of course not, nor with motherhood, and even political
Communism IF it repudiates atheist repression and permits
religion, does not result in the mass murder of the atheist
period, and actually progresses! B^]
Lets examine this shift from Atheism to religious freedom,
progress and prosperity, more closely;
# "With the gradual liberalisation that developed with
# Deng Xiaoping's open door reforms, religion was no
# longer proscribed. In 1982, the constitution was
# amended to allow Chinese people considerable freedom
# of religion."
#
# http://cbbc.org/china_guide/religion.html
China is no longer an atheist state, just as it is no longer
a Command Economy..
# "At the first world Buddhism forum in East China's Zhejiang
# Province last year, the Chinese government acknowledged
# the active role religion plays in building a harmonious society."
#
# "For example, religious beliefs have helped cut down crime
# to a large extent,"
#
# http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
As the atheist horror-show of the Maoist Great Leap Backwards
and Cultural Devolution killed over 30,000,000 people, and atheism
was abandoned as state imposed doctrine, religion has flourished
and with it, China has prospered! B^]
A win/win for everyone, except the brainless ATHEIST LOSERS of course!
#
# "religion has been enjoying a resurgence in China over the
# past 20 years, as Communist Party disapproval has eased"
#
# http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm
So, the terror torture and mass murder of 30,000,000 people
coincided with ATHEISM, and even though the state is officially
still Communist, it is no longer ATHEIST, and thus is now far
more stable, prosperous and religious! Atheism correlates with
tyranny and death more than Communism does! 8^o
Looks like you can have Communism without atheism and still have
a highly effective society.. BUT EVERY ATHEIST REGIME IS A
TOTALITARIAN SHITHOLE TYRANNY!!!!!
Priceless!
B^D
#
#
# "Religious believers thrice the estimate
# By Wu Jiao (China Daily)
#
# "A survey has found that the number of religious believers
# is three times bigger than the official estimate.
#
# The poll of about 4,500 people, conducted by professors Tong
# Shijun and Liu Zhongyu of Shanghai-based East China Normal
# University from 2005 till recently, found that 31.4 percent
# of Chinese aged 16 and above or about 300 million are religious."
#
# http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
Incredible! in just a few short years the new converts from
atheism In JUST ONE COUNTRY, far outnumber the slow increase
in tiny atheist numbers in the rest of the WORLD! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA!
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
>>
>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>> - Lenin
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
>>
>> http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-fa...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> A major atheist (Richard Dawkins, I believe) was interviewed not long ago
>>> on a national station. During the interview, he was asked to justify the
>>> evils perpetrated on tens of millions by the atheist leader, Stalin. The
>>> atheist's response was that the connection between Stalin's atheism and his
>>> great crimes is unfounded. Stalin, he said, had mustaches; could you not use
>>> the same logic, he added, and conclude that he killed people because he had
>>> mustaches?
>>> The atheist's response is foolish to such a magnitude that it is not really
>>> deserving deserving of an answer. Nonetheless, for the sake of fairness, we
>>> will endeavor to assess his objection.
>>> Was the philosophy of atheism espoused by communists responsible for the
>>> mass murders perpetrated by communist leaders such as Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot
>>> and Ceausescu? Let's look at some enlightening facts that militant atheists
>>> prefer not to acknowledge.
>>> 1. Communists leaders were motivated by a strong desire to impose an
>>> ideological "package" over the whole world. The package included the
>>> eradication of Religion, defined by arch-atheist, Karl Marx, as "The opium
>>> of the people." According to Marx, religion helped keep the masses passive
>>> before the abuse of the wealthy and powerful, and the only way to free them
>>> from the "stupor," God and religion had to be eradicated. Lenin embraced
>>> Marx's views and so did Stalin up to the Second World war. The enforcement
>>> of Atheism was a "critical" requirement for Communism's success, and thus it
>>> had to be implemented at all costs. This meant oppressive measures, such as
>>> brainwashing in state schools, the closing of houses of worship and
>>> arresting countless religious leaders.
>>> 2. Karl Marx's extremist followers were not in any way impeded in their
>>> blood-thirsty global quest by fear of a Higher Power. Atheism took very
>>> efficient care of this "limiting factor." Since the end justified the means,
>>> as Machiavelli had instructed, they could do whatever was necessary to bring
>>> about a workers' paradise. Because the opposition in some cases proved to be
>>> powerful and resilient, drastic means were used. Large numbers were killed
>>> for refusing to abandon their religious beliefs. A great many were sent to
>>> concentration camps. (For an enlightening, "first-hand" account of
>>> suppression of Religion and other "enemies" of Atheistic-Communism in
>>> Russia, please read, The Gulag Archipelago, by Alexander Solzhenitsyn --
>>> especially Chapter 2.)
>>> 3. Communist-atheist leaders, in their own eyes, became supreme,
>>> all-knowing, all-wise and all powerful "gods." They had total control over
>>> people's lives and over who lived and who died. Being "gods," they asserted
>>> their evil schemes over the masses with brutality and mercilessness.
>>> 4. People like Stalin were interested in propagating an ideology, not a
>>> look. Nobody was persecuted in the Soviet Union for not having a mustache
>>> like Stalin, or for not wearing a uniform similar to his, or for not liking
>>> the same food, music or sports. Large numbers were persecuted and killed for
>>> practicing religion, and for being interferences to atheist-communist
>>> expansion. Now some would retort that Stalin had a change of heart during
>>> the Second World war and that he recognized and elevated anew the Russian
>>> Orthodox Church. This is a historically correct statement, but in no way
>>> does it indicate that Stalin moved toward theism. The move was strictly
>>> utilitarian. Steven Merritt Miner in his work Stalin's Holy War informs us
>>> that Stalin had ulterior motives behind the move.
>>> "Moscow's religious policy at this time can only be understood in the
>>> context of Soviet security considerations, especially Moscow's concerns
>>> about the disaffection of non-Russian nationalities. The Kremlin saw the
>>> church not only, and perhaps not even primarily, as a tool for mobilizing
>>> and harnessing Russian nationalism throughout the union, but rather as one
>>> of several instruments for countering and disarming non-Russian, and
>>> anti-Soviet, nationalism. As most tsars could have told Stalin, the Russian
>>> Orthodox Church was an effective agent for the Russification of the
>>> ethnically diverse and contentious western regions."
>>> This move, though "seemingly" noble, did not neutralize or excuse his
>>> heinous actions toward countless Christians and Muslims who were killed so
>>> as to facilitate the spread of Stalin's atheistic-communistic ideology.
>>> Militant atheism, therefore, was a major factor in the murder of countless
>>> millions, during the past century. Unfortunately, militant atheism, is still
>>> driven by some of the same extremist views reminiscent of atheist-communist
>>> regimes of old. They, like their predecessors, do not hesitate to admit that
>>> they hate God, religion and that they would like to see both disappear
>>> forever. Furthermore, they are driven by a hatred for the unborn, and a
>>> blind support for common-law living, sexual immorality, euthanasia, etc.
>>> The understandable concern of many is that a propagation of their
>>> philosophy of meaninglessness and their blind allegiance to atheistic
>>> evolution would lead, in the long run, to a return to a cold-hearted and
>>> dangerous devaluing of the weak and the needy in society; though they
>>> "assure" us that that is not part of their agenda. We believe that their
>>> cold-heartiness toward millions of unborn babies, and their total support of
>>> euthanasia indicates otherwise.
>>> Theist author, Dinesh D'Souza, eloquently expresses similar concerns in the
>>> following quote:
>>> The crimes of atheism have generally been perpetrated through a hubristic
>>> ideology that sees man, not God, as the creator of values. Using the latest
>>> techniques of science and technology, man seeks to displace God and create a
>>> secular utopia here on earth. Of course if some people - the Jews, the
>>> landowners, the unfit, or the handicapped - have to be eliminated in order
>>> to achieve this utopia, this is a price the atheist tyrants and their
>>> apologists have shown themselves quite willing to pay. Thus they confirm the
>>> truth of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's dictum, "If God is not, everything is
>>> permitted.
>> --
>
--
fasgnadh
fasgnadh wrote:
> Uncle Vic denied being in the slammer:
The atheists are very despondent, they can see my agenda
has now been taken up by others who have noticed,
"Oh Yeah, atheism, that's the doctrine imposed by Lenin, Mao,
Stalin and Pol Pot, when over 60,000,000 people were killed!"
The Writing is on the Wall;
'Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin'
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>> WAS ATHEISM IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF COMMUNISM?
FULLY! B^D
Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense"
- Stalin
- E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;
The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
�We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.�
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
�Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!� (early Soviet slogan)
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
>> I am an atheist.
You are a modern, wimpy, ineffectual member of a tiny,
irrelevant cult and and impotent sub-branch of Nihilism, and
not responsible for the Crimes against humanity committed by
the real atheists in the days when they actually had some influence! B^D
All you modern atheists are guilty of is
- terminal stupidity,
- being the last to wake up to the aridity
of your belief,
- being tiresome tedious prats
- and your complicity when you try and DENY the atheist
holocausts.. although in your case the attempt is so FEEBLE
it's as if you can't be bothered, and know, deep down that
you, and atheism are ROUTED!
[American pronunciation to get the full English meaning! B^]
>> I have never seen the inside of a jail cell.
The reason for that is clear;
http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
B^D
The only time Carbunkle Vic takes his head out is when his
cellmate, 'Horse', is horny! B^D
>> Does that answer your question,
Not completely.. what does it make you feel like?
>> pussy?
So you don't know the difference? B^D
> No, you slimy atheist fuckwit, Osama Bin Lidden is still at large too!
>
> B^p
>
> Of course it doesn't
You atheists are really admitting defeat on every front aren't you! B^D
* your alt.atheism sheltered workshop is in terminal decline.
* that evil agnostic, fasgnadh, OWNS it! B^D
* atheism worldwide is in decline
* Zencycle admits China has progressed and prospered as
Atheism declined and religion expanded rapidly (300,000,000! 8^o )
* all your atheist thug tactics, Syd's Slander, Virgils Forgery,
Abu' Baker and Chris lee's psycho-sexual abuse, have failed
* it's too late for any of you to learn how to construct a rational
argument, supported by properly cited evidence
* Bukakke Blowhard and Kelpie Koward haven't been seen since they
SNIPPED and RAN A....W........A........................Y! B^D
* The Atheist Quack of the Month AQOTM wank has folded since I
exposed what a witch-hunt that fraud nemo-toad was running,
breaching the AQOTM 'rules':
Message-ID: <sYydnRw9voA9Kx_U...@earthlink.com>
Nemo and AQOTM have RUN AWAY just like Bukakke and all the rest!
* Atheists have admitted they are responsible for over 100,000,000
dead
# From: Kilmir <kil...@gmail.com>
# Subject: Re: is religion really the answer? Not if the question is
# "What killed 60,000,000 in the last 100 years"
# - ATHEIST REGIMES DID IT! 8^o
# Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:39:48 -0700 (PDT)
# Organization: http://groups.google.com
# Message-ID:
<042262dc-a546-4054...@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
# Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
#
#
http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/search?q=3Datheist+vs+theist+killings
#
# atheists have caused almost a whopping 100 million deaths throughout
# world history.
* Surveys show atheists are the most distrusted and despised
minority in the USA.
* Now even stalwarts like Ritcho have abandoned the atheist cause
because there are no decent discussions (all the atheists have
kill-filed every dissenting view and RUN AWAY to HIDE! B^)
* And, final indignity, excessive masturbation left Uncle Vic
Blind when he went to prison! Sad, really sad! B^D
> --
> Uncle Vic
> AA#2011
2011 would be about the total membership of Atheists Anonymous, eh?
fasgnadh
> On Sep 22, 2:29 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
>
>> the Holocaust.
>>
>
> And every other bad thing.
>
> Atheism and communism
> So, which is the bigger criminal?
Atheism.
In Mao's atheist regime over 30,000,000 died, but
since the Chinese communists abandoned Forced Atheism
and stopped proscribing religion, China has prospered and
progressed, the Communist Party even praises religion:
# "With the gradual liberalisation that developed with
# Deng Xiaoping's open door reforms, religion was no
# longer proscribed. In 1982, the constitution was
# amended to allow Chinese people considerable freedom
# of religion."
#
# http://cbbc.org/china_guide/religion.html
# "At the first world Buddhism forum in East China's Zhejiang
# Province last year, the Chinese government acknowledged
# the active role religion plays in building a harmonious society."
#
# "For example, religious beliefs have helped cut down crime
# to a large extent,"
#
# http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
So, That;s the Verdict of CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY OFFICIALS,
former atheists, who while still running a Communist Government
are no longer destroying temples and churches and killing believers,
and China is prospering as Communist WITHOUT state Atheism!
Q.E.D. B^]
#
# "religion has been enjoying a resurgence in China over the
# past 20 years, as Communist Party disapproval has eased"
#
# http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm
# "Religious believers thrice the estimate
# By Wu Jiao (China Daily)
#
# "A survey has found that the number of religious believers
# is three times bigger than the official estimate.
#
# The poll of about 4,500 people, conducted by professors Tong
# Shijun and Liu Zhongyu of Shanghai-based East China Normal
# University from 2005 till recently, found that 31.4 percent
# of Chinese aged 16 and above or about 300 million are religious."
#
# http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
> PDW
Pathetic Dishonest and Witless
Evidence, Syd Slander, atheist forger:
--
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
# From: Syd <pdwri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups:
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# Subject: Re: 95 Theses for Atheist Reform: #47 Atheist forgery and
deception
# Re: The Problem with atheism is that it has never had a Reformation
# Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 10:03:43 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
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#
# On May 25, 9:34=A0am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
# > Syd the atheist forger wrote:
# >> fasgnadh wrote:
# >>>
# >>> # "The underlying theory of NewSpeak is that if something can't
# >>> # be said, then it can't be thought."
# >>>
# >>> # This suits the totalitarian
# >>> # regime of the Party, whose aim is to make any alternative
# >>> # thinking � "thoughtcrime", or "crimethink" in the newest
# >>> # edition of NewSpeak � or speech impossible by removing
# >>> # any words or possible constructs which describe the
# >>> # ideas of freedom, rebellion and so on."
# >>>
# >
# >
# > My text above, was changed by Syd's FORGERY to make his words
# > appear to be mine;
# >
# > @@ Atheist forgery starts
# > @
# > @>> # "The underlying theory of NewSpeak is that if something can't
# > @>> # be said, then it can't be thought."
# > @>>
# > @>> # This suits the totalitarian
# > @>> # regime of the church.
# > @>
# > @> Too a tee.
# > @>
# > @> <Snip usual anti-atheist hatred and lies>
# > @
# > @@ End atheist forgery
# >
# > To falsely ATTRIBUTE their lies to an opponent is a mark
# > of the desperate dishonesty and moral decrepitude of atheists.
#
# I did it
Judicial Corruption Australia
>> "I don't care what you fuckers think".
>
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en
Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
victimised and unlawfully discriminated against as he exposed unsafe
working conditions in the Navy, that put public safety and lives at
risk.
He approached HREOC with a complaint under HREOCA1986 and RDA1975;
what he found was institutional racism, coverup and perverting of the
Human Rights Act, violating Australia's obligation under International
Treaties ICCPR and ICERD. The president of HREOC, John von Doussa
violated HREOAC1986 in refusing to investigate his White mates, and
then refusing to terminate the complaints so that it can be heard in
the Federal Courts.
More institutionalised racism occurred at the Administrative Appeals
Tribunal, where Senior Member John Handley proceeded to pervert
justice by fabricating documents and evidence.
Questions of Law will be asked of the validity of the HREOAC1986 and
RDA1975 as the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee,
chair and co-chair, Senators Barnett and Crossin indicated that
Inquiries into Access to Justice, Australia's Legal System and the
Role of Judges should not be of assistance to Australian Citizens of
ethnic backgrounds.
Institutionalised racism and corruption in the Judiciary have made
political prisoners of Aborigines such as Lex Wotton, dogwhistled to
corrupt police leading to Black Deaths in Custody, putting public
health and safety in jeopardy, and allowing a four (4) year old
Aborigines girl to die after having been refused medical care at a Qld
hospital, political assasination of Phuong Ngo, political assasination
of Frederick Toben.
They set them up to fail and when they fail, they call them inferior
and lock them up.
Racist and corrupt White nation inciting racial hatred and Black
Deaths in Custody, reduce the Black Man to fight for his basic human
rights
The High Court Australia has been labelled racist by Justice Michael
Kirby. The Australian Michael Pelley called the High Court racist and
hyprocrites. They are so afraid of the HREOCA1986, because even the
High Court Australia must obey an Act of Parliament.
Corrupt and racist Judiciary will fight with all its might and means
to deprive us of HREOCA1986, to deprive us of Habeas Corpus as we file
such writs for Lex Wotton, Phuong Ngo, and Frederick Toben. We might
not like their politics or ethnicity, but their loss of judicial
independence and fairness, and their experience of judicial abuse of
discretionary powers will greatly affect us all now and in the future.
Until Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee and Australian
Parliament secede from ICCPR and ICERD, even the High Court must obey
HREOCA1986. We must fight for HREOCA1986 even if the Corrupt changes
its name, because it is the only Bill of Rights we have."
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
> If Institutionalised Racism kills, High Court Australia criminal? You
>bet
>
>http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2137/75221326522959327217259.jpg
>
>
>
>http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif
>
><img src="http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif">
>
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia
Cant the Whiteman be trusted with a signed Treaty?
Come join this petition, and save American Taxpayers' dollars on
useless UN rorts that only go to fuel terrorism through their
hypocrisy and abuse of UN process, and the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights.
<a
href="http://www.change.org/actions/view/
request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia">change.org</
a>
<a
href="http://www.change.org/actions/view/
request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia">Change.org</
a>
<blockquote>
The Hypocrisy of the UN Human Rights Bodies continues unabated. It
seems like the western world can do no wrong, and western countries
like Australia can ride rougshod over UN Human Rights Treaties, and at
the same time can dictate to less developed nations.
REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html
1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers
2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System
Universal declaration on human rights
come join my group and help assist the OHCHR uphold its human rights
mandates
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10385581643
Below and an account of Institutionalised racism within in the
Australian Judicial System and the High Court Australia:
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
NB. i need the email address of the UN Secretary General
Torsten Schackel
Acting Secretary of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Human Rights Treaties Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.9614 - Fax +41.22.917.90.29
e-mail: tsch...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland
Joyce Fucio,
Administrative Assistant
Secretariat of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Treaties and Commission Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.94.09 - Fax +41.22.917.90.22
e-mail: jfu...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland
"Under Article 14 of International Convenant on the Elimination of All
Forms of Racial Discrimination, individuals can file submissions to
the International Committee on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial
Discrimination if the country has signed the UN ICERD Treaty and allow
the Committee to hear such submissions.
The Committee has a moral obligation if not a legal obligation to
investigate and make recommendations. The Committee has a moral duty
if not legal obligation to return correspondence.
REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html
1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers
2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System
The lack of correpondence from the Committee shed bad light on the UN
process as a whole and violates the Universal Declaration on Human
Rights.
We urge Mr Secretary General Mr Ban Ki-Moon to request that the
Committee carry out their duty and make Dignity and Justice for ALL
and not just some people."
</blockquote>
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
victimised and unlawfully discriminated against as he exposed unsafe
working conditions in the Navy, that put public safety and lives at
risk.
He approached HREOC with a complaint under HREOCA1986 and RDA1975;
what he found was institutional racism, coverup and perverting of the
Human Rights Act, violating Australia's obligation under International
Treaties ICCPR and ICERD. The president of HREOC, John von Doussa
violated HREOAC1986 in refusing to investigate his White mates, and
then refusing to terminate the complaints so that it can be heard in
the Federal Courts.
More institutionalised racism occurred at the Administrative Appeals
Tribunal, where Senior Member John Handley proceeded to pervert
justice by fabricating documents and evidence.
Questions of Law will be asked of the validity of the HREOAC1986 and
RDA1975 as the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee,
chair and co-chair, Senators Barnett and Crossin indicated that
Inquiries into Access to Justice, Australia's Legal System and the
Role of Judges should not be of assistance to Australian Citizens of
ethnic backgrounds.
Institutionalised racism and corruption in the Judiciary have made
political prisoners of Aborigines such as Lex Wotton, dogwhistled to
corrupt police leading to Black Deaths in Custody, putting public
health and safety in jeopardy, and allowing a four (4) year old
Aborigines girl to die after having been refused medical care at a Qld
hospital, political assasination of Phuong Ngo, political assasination
of Frederick Toben.
They set them up to fail and when they fail, they call them inferior
and lock them up.
Racist and corrupt White nation inciting racial hatred and Black
Deaths in Custody, reduce the Black Man to fight for his basic human
rights
The High Court Australia has been labelled racist by Justice Michael
Kirby. The Australian Michael Pelley called the High Court racist and
hyprocrites. They are so afraid of the HREOCA1986, because even the
High Court Australia must obey an Act of Parliament.
Corrupt and racist Judiciary will fight with all its might and means
to deprive us of HREOCA1986, to deprive us of Habeas Corpus as we file
such writs for Lex Wotton, Phuong Ngo, and Frederick Toben. We might
not like their politics or ethnicity, but their loss of judicial
independence and fairness, and their experience of judicial abuse of
discretionary powers will greatly affect us all now and in the future.
Until Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee and Australian
Parliament secede from ICCPR and ICERD, even the High Court must obey
HREOCA1986. We must fight for HREOCA1986 even if the Corrupt changes
its name, because it is the only Bill of Rights we have."
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
=
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why little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard?
why must you cover up for your crooked white mates like crooked high
court judges French, Hayne, Gummow and Crennan JJ ?
Senate Enquiries: Whitewash
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/legcon_ctte/judicial_system/in...
iWitness: Judicial Corruption Australia
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php?/topic/2217-y...
Heres a Documentary on how these corrupt judges conspire to pervert
justice and fabricate documents, include the newly appointed Chief
Justice Robert Stenton French
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ
The little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard neverending Magic Pudding therapy,
where feckin white pedophiles with the nerve to accuse blackfellas !!!
Crooked racist white Australia ^^
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/user/fightKangarooCourts
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
-----------------------------------------
fasgnadh
> There is no such thing as "militant" atheists because one can't be
> militant about a lack of belief in something.
Trance lies again:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
No wonder Atheists can't believe in God, even when presented
with irrefutable proof of Militant Atheism, they don't believe in it,
either! B^D
Not only does Trance KNOW about Militant Atheism.. SHE IS ONE:
Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<128235a0-640d-495a...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>
# Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
#
# On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#
# > We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists.
# >
# > BAAWA is back. You Knights out there better start being Knights
# > because if I don't see blood, and soon, you're gone.
# >
# > We kill theists and shit down their throats
# > and not in a girly way.
# >
# > Warlord Steve
# > BAAWA
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------
# BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
She has to have The Operation, so she can do it
in a non-girly way! B^D
But being a deceptive Militant Atheist Trance is pretending to be
a Newbie recruit (their ONLY ONE ;-) when in fact she is a
Senior Commissar for Propaganda and Deception in MIA;
>> There is no such thing as a "militant atheist".
Trance is a Militant Atheist who pretended to be a Newbie
Recruit to BAAWA so she could kill theists and finally
shit down something.. (she has been so full of shit for
so many years she threatened to EXPLODE! )
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. Steve Knight checking in
# Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<24978829-3dd7-49ff...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
#
# On Sep 23, 11:58=A0pm, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Trance Gemini
#> <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
#>> Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#>>
#>>> I will be re-instating the BAAWA website soon.
#>>>
#>>> Warlord Steve
#>>> BAAWA
#>
#>> Hi Steve,
#>
#>> I'm new here (relatively speaking) so forgive my
#>> ignorance but what's a BAAWA?
Trance, (whose ignorance is legendary), had actually
been posting since Jan 09, pretended to be an innocent Newbie
so that Warlord Fluffy can 'explain' what she already knows
about BAWAA, to her and thus preach to the intensely
uninterested Newsgroup ! B^D
It is a recruitment drive, and as NO ONE ELSE was interested
in their CHARADE, Trance and Fluffy had to PUT ON A PROPAGANDA
SET PIECE..
It's a Dorothy Dix question, a setup by Atheists playing
their dull, witless, deceptive SCRIPT. They delude no
one but themselves.
#> BAAWA means 'Bad Assed Atheist With Attitude'. Anyone can be BAAWA.
#> However, being a Knight of BAAWA requires the benevolence of the
#> Warlord. Me. You must prove your prowess in written carnage of a
#> theist pig. The web site will be posted soon and you can go there to
#> see the details.
#
# Ah Thank You, Oh Lord (er Knight, er Sir....)
#
# I hope to qualify for a Knightess position ...
#
# <polishes her sword slowly and gleefully - finally some *real* fun>
Trance, who claims there are no Militant Atheists, signs up
for the 'carnage of a theist pig'.
Militant atheism is a deceptive cult for hate-filled Militant
Atheists with nothing better to do in life than DESPISE
people for not sharing the Atheist non-belief in something or other.
Trance is the Alpha male in the alt.atheism pack, pretending
to be the willing newbie in a Propaganda Piece by MIA.
Militant Idiot Atheists.
<snipped Trances red herrings based on fallacies>
--
alt.atheism FAQ:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
fasgnadh
> On Oct 2, 9:59 pm, Hatter <hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 24, 9:02 am, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 24, 8:51 am, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 22, 10:57 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>> WAS ATHEISM IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF COMMUNISM?
>>>>> A major atheist (Richard Dawkins, I believe) was interviewed not long ago
>>>>> on a national station. During the interview, he was asked to justify the
>>>>> evils perpetrated on tens of millions by the atheist leader, Stalin.
>>>>>
And An Atheist
>>>> He was educated in a Catholic Seminary.
Dropped out and went on to a career as a Militant Atheist thug
and Mass Murderer.
If only he had stayed on the Path!
The Orthodoc Seminary was the only School available,
As you know theists provided the only schools, and science, and
Civilisations.. during the 60,000 year long DARK AGES OF ATHEISM!
when it produced NOTHING of value. Since then it has produced
the atheist States, responsible for over 60,000,000 dead and
then disintegrated back into impotence and obscurity)
>>>> Both atheists and theists can be communists or not be communists.
The Members of the Soviet Central Committee were Atheists..
Name any theist members of the Central Committee responsible for that
ATHEIST STATE'S death toll here:
........................................
Otherwise people will KNOW you are lying, as I already know.
>>> Note. In order for Communism to be an atheist philosophy.
Those atheists concerned would need to say so, and then carry
out their persecution of Beleivers:
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense"
- Stalin
>>> ALL Communist philosophies would have to be based on the
>>> atheist lack of belief in gods.
No, the Militant Atheists are as ignorant of Philosophy as they are
of morality. Every Atheist regime has been a Totalitarian Tyranny.
100% of them. YOu can't deny the History of Militant Atheism;
>>> They are not: Christian Communism and Liberation Theology exist.
Liberation Theology was a movement to oppose the exploitation of
the poor and oppressed
Militant Atheism, in the USSR, Pol Pot's Cambodian Genocide and Mao's
Cultural Devolution and Great Leap Backward WAS THE OPPRESSION OF THE
POOR AND OPPRESED!!!
>>> In order for Communism to be an atheist system.
>>> ALL Communists would have to be atheist.
Just the Members of the Ruling Party Central Committee.
Can you name any that you claim were theists between 1917
and the end of Stalinism?
Place answer Here:
................................................................
>>> In addition, Not All atheists are Communists.
No one claimed they were, Strawman argument.
>>> Atheists have many different belief systems in addition to a lack of
>>> belief in gods.
We Know:
Subject: Trance Gemini Signs up to Militant Atheism to "Kill Theists"
8^o
was Re: Atheism Was Responsible For The Crimes Of Communism
From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
alt.religion.christian,alt.religion,alt.politics.republicans,
alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,alt.agnosticism
Message-ID: <6MSxm.45092$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:21:06 GMT
Trance Gemini wrote:
Trance lies again:
Militant Idiot Atheists.
Tell it to the families of their 60,000,000 victims and the
ones Trance and Fluffy want ot kill and shit down the throats of!
Atheists have been the greatest holocaust deniers and propagandists
on the planet since Pravda was created in teh Bowels of the Evil
Empire.
> They just like playing the poor little persecuted victims.
fasgnadh
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:51:04 -0700 (PDT), Trance Gemini
>>
>> <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There is no such thing as a "militant atheist".
Trance lies again:
It's like Neo Nazis who sign up to kill Jews.
But being a Deceptive Militant Atheist Trance is pretending to be
a Newbie recruit (their ONLY ONE ;-) when in fact she is a
Senior Commissar for Propaganda and Deception in MIA;
Trance is a veteran Militant Atheist who pretended to be a Newbie
That's not 'react to hostile attack, but simply, Kill them
because they are theists
> And there are atheists who are getting militant about people lying
> about what we are and what we believe.
You have not been lied about, but QUOTED, werbatim!
That's why Google just shrugged when you complaind it
was ABUSE to simply expose what you have said! B^]
Are you now claiming YOU were LYING when you said it?
That would still make it YOUR Problem.. not mine!
Suck it up, lying atheist hypocrite!
Militant atheism is a deceptive cult for hate-filled Militant
Atheists with nothing better to do in life than DESPISE
people for not sharing the Atheist non-belief in something or other.
Trance is the Alpha male in the alt.atheism pack, pretending
to be the willing newbie in a Propaganda Piece by MIA.
Militant Idiot Atheists.
fasgnadh
>
> Atheists don't have a problem with theists beliefs.
Possibly, because you don't appear to understand them,
your problem is that you simply Hate Theists..
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<128235a0-640d-495a...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>
# Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
#
# On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#
# > We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists.
# >
# > BAAWA is back. You Knights out there better start being Knights
# > because if I don't see blood, and soon, you're gone.
# >
# > We kill theists and shit down their throats
# > and not in a girly way.
# >
# > Warlord Steve
# > BAAWA
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------
# BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
Trance is a Militant Atheist who pretended to be a Newbie
This is no different from a neo-Nazi signing up for the "carnage of a Jew"
Militant atheism is a deceptive cult for hate-filled BIGOTS
with nothing better to do in life than DESPISE
people for not sharing the Atheist non-belief in something or other.
Trance is the Alpha male in the alt.atheism pack, pretending
to be the willing newbie in a Propaganda Piece by MIA.
Militant Idiot Atheists.
Your life is based around Anti-theism, it appears to
both define and consume you.
I don't call myself an aunicorn or an 'aflying_spagetti_monster'
or an 'aalien'
simply because I don't believe they exists.. it's absurd.
> We have a problem with theists *actions*.
'Theist' is a very broad term including Christians Muslims, Hindus,
Baha, Jews, Zoroasterians.. Are you concerned about particular
actions?
What are they?
Do you distinguish which groups are responsible or
do you just vilify all becasue of the 'actions' of some?
And why do you atheists avoid debate, is it becasue you are
shifty and sly, or becasue you are dishonest and hypocritical,
or simply because you are irrational and cannot support you
hatred of theiosts with reason.
> You know ... terrorist acts ...
Quakers are Theists. They haven't committed any terrorist acts.
YOu seem to be doing to 'Theists' what Nazi propagandists did to
Jews, BLAMING ALL for individual acts.
I accuse you of Bigotry.
YOu attack ALL theists, you claim you object to "Theist"(collectively
and generically) for actions by a few Islamofascists which are
REPUDIATED by the majority of Muslims, and have NOTHING to do with any
other group of theists, Christian, Hindu, etc.
Why are you using BIGOTRY to stir up atheist HATRED toward all the
varieties of believers?
fasgnadh
> On Oct 2, 9:24 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Communism as it existed in the former USSR and various other places,
>> and in it's present incarnations if you will, is a not only an
>> economic system (please!) but also a political as well as social
>> phenomenon. Anyone who posits that it's solely economic is delusional
>> frankly. It IS totalitarian, because the state in essence becomes
>> *god*. All must surrender their individual ambitions and honor the
>> will of the state (actually the will of the ruling body). Freedoms are
>> squelched in a big way, *beliefs* are not welcome, because they tend
>> to liberate if you will the soul.
>> Atheists, many, either work to end religion, or simply wish it would
>> go away. Atheists, therefore, are routed in a totalitarian mindset.
>> Atheism is the spirit of communism.
>
Lenn aditted it, and every atheist state, ALL OF THEM totalitarian
tyrannies, PROVED IT!
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
> Most Atheists do not work
We can tell that by the time they have to play Warlords and Killers;
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. Steve Knight checking in
# Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<24978829-3dd7-49ff...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
#
# On Sep 23, 11:58=A0pm, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Trance Gemini
#> <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
#>> Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#>>
#>>> I will be re-instating the BAAWA website soon.
#>>>
#>>> Warlord Steve
#>>> BAAWA
#>
#>> Hi Steve,
#>
#>> I'm new here (relatively speaking) so forgive my
#>> ignorance but what's a BAAWA?
Trance, whose ignorance is legendary, had been posting
since Jan 09, pretends to be an innocent Newbie so
that Warlord Fluffy can 'explain' what she already knows
about BAWAA to her! B^D
It's a Dorothy Dix question, a setup by Atheists playing
their dull, witless, deceptive SCRIPT. They delude no
one but themesleves.
#> BAAWA means 'Bad Assed Atheist With Attitude'. Anyone can be BAAWA.
#> However, being a Knight of BAAWA requires the benevolence of the
#> Warlord. Me. You must prove your prowess in written carnage of a
#> theist pig. The web site will be posted soon and you can go there to
#> see the details.
#
# Ah Thank You, Oh Lord (er Knight, er Sir....)
#
# I hope to qualify for a Knightess position ...
#
# <polishes her sword slowly and gleefully - finally some *real* fun>
Trance, who claims there are no Militant Atheists, signs up
for the 'carnage of a theist pig'.
Militant atheism is a deceptive cult for hate-filled Militant
atheists.
Trance is the Alpha male in the alt.atheism pack, pretending
to be the willing newbie in a Propaganda Piece by MIA.
Militant Idiot Atheists.
----------------
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
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#
# On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#
# > We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists.
# >
# > BAAWA is back. You Knights out there better start being Knights
# > because if I don't see blood, and soon, you're gone.
# >
# > We kill theists and shit down their throats
# > and not in a girly way.
# >
# > Warlord Steve
# > BAAWA
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------
# BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
Their hatred and bigotry toward all religions is manifested in their
violent struggle..
> to end religion,
In the USSR they shot priests and poured water on them in the snow
so they froze into human icy poles..
in Cambodia they crucified Christians and shot Muslims with bullits
dipped in pig fat.. all because like the Nazis, whose holocausts they
EXCEEDED, they believe;
> there are certain sects of religion that should be ended.
For the Nazis it was the Jews, and Jehovah's Witnesses
For the atheists it's ALL believers.
fasgnadh
>
> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
bigot beliefs lie!
B^]
> but should
> certainly be militant in opposing any attempts to infiltrate
> their beliefs into our lives.
Then goto Nth Korea where they persecute and
kill anyone who dissents from atheist dogma.. the ONLY
atheist state where tyranny ensures you wont be infected by the
Human rights of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of belief.
> Christians are doing a far better job at driving people away
Clearly not.. Nth Korea beckons and you are STILL HERE
Every atheists actions betray his lies.
Atheists have no desire to go to an atheist state...
Every one that has ever existed has been a SHITHOLE..
You need Theists, they provide the world in which you ineffectual,
hate filled Militant Atheist parasites can exist.
--
Green Lantern
"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:6s1ym.45237$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Les wrote:
>
>>
>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>
> I have offered MANY times to
PFffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttt
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Les wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>>
>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>>
>> Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
>> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
>> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
>> bigot beliefs lie!
>>
You can actually HEAR the hot air leaking out of one punctured
atheist hypocrite:
>
> PFffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttt
>
>
>> B^]
>>
>>> but should
>>> certainly be militant in opposing any attempts to infiltrate
>>> their beliefs into our lives.
>>
>> Then go to Nth Korea where they persecute and
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Les wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>>
>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>>
>> Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
>> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
>> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
>> bigot beliefs lie!
>
No, He doesn't whine about the Majority Religious
societies which provide you with everything Nth
Korea (the only remaining Atheist state) wouldn't.
He also doesn't post here, probably because he's dead,
possibly from shame because of you Militant Atheists.
I mean parasites like Virgil, Trance Gemini, and Warlord Fluffy
who enjoy the benefits of a majority religious society because
its just SO MUCH BETTER than any atheist shithole tyranny in history.
So why do you inconsequential nobody parasites try to deflect my
criticism of you towards a brilliant mathematician, who I'm on record
as praising... do you really think your critics are BLIND BIGOTS
just because you are?
I'm not the one saying "we Kill Atheists" , I have nothing against
atheists, It's the Militant Atheist parasites which DESERVE criticism
fo their psycho-sexual violence that I criticise.
So why do you defend them, becasue you share their hatred and
bigotry toward 'Theists'
I'm part of the Atheist Reform Movement, not the
Militant atheists "Kill Theists" cult!
My goal is to improve you, Militant atheist's goal is to 'Kill them'.
Are you really so lacking in judgement that you can't see the difference.
Davej
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, soc.culture.polish, alt.russia
> [...]
> Lenn aditted it, and every atheist state, ALL OF THEM totalitarian
> tyrannies, PROVED IT!
Proved nothing. A dictator may naturally grasp at atheism as a means
of denying the validity of any other authorities.. The alternative is
to accept the authority of others.
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Les wrote:
>
> >
> > My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
> > to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>
> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
When fasgnadh will finance the passage of all Catholics to a Catholic
state and all Moslems to a Moslem state and all Hindus to a Hindu state
and all Lutherans o a Lutheran state and all fundies to a fundie state,
etc., there will be no need for atheists to move, as they, and the
agnostics, will be the only ones left.
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Green Lantern declines assisted passage, opts for theism instead:
> > fasgnadh wrote:
> >> Les wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
> >>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
> >>
> >> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
> >> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
> >> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
> >> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
> >> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
> >>
> >> Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
> >> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
> >> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
> >> bigot beliefs lie!
> >>
>
> You can actually HEAR the hot air leaking out of one punctured
fasgnadh hypocrite:
>
> >
> > PFffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttt
If fasgnadh finds countries with free atheists in them so unpleasant,
why doesn't he move to a totally theist state, like Iran.
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> I mean parasites like Virgil, Trance Gemini, and Warlord Fluffy
> who enjoy the benefits of a majority religious society
As I was born in the USA, vote in the USA, and have served in its armed
forces, I suggest that if fasgnadh does not lke it that a veteran choses
to live n his own country that fasgnadh emigrate to some more totally
religious country like Iran.
Alex
> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
> # Subject: Re: A.A. Steve Knight checking in
> # Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT)
> # Message-ID:
> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
> # Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
> # Message-ID:
> # Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com
>
> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>
> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
>
> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
> - Lenin
>
> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
>
> http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
>
No atheist can argue with the greatest atheist of 20th century, lenin
aka blank (he was a jew by mother).
Don H
news:6s1ym.45237$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
> # other religious sentiments were often killed.
> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
> # instead of the family.
> #
> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# The ravings of fang-gnasher continue, with the same old spiel. He won't
say he is a Theist, though admits to being some kind of pseudo-agnostic.
His desperate attempts to discredit Atheism now lead him to advocate
North Korea as the natural home of atheists - ignoring the many Humanists
and Rationalists in Western Society, as they don't fit into his hate
message.
Why does Australia have an officially secular Constitution (as in USA)?
It was to keep Protestants and Catholics from each other's throats - and get
rid of the old Monarchy system, whereby a change of regime ment the top
creed burnt their ousted opponents at the stake . Better to have change
without bloodshed.
China has just celebrated 60 years of Commo rule, and while celebrating
may be compulsory, the people seem happy enough.
Yes, North Korea is the only Baddy left - Pol Pot has gone, and Vietnam,
Laos, Cuba, etc, seem content enough with their Oligarchies, pro tem.
Not that the Plutocratic West has much to boast about, as the more
things change, the more they remain the same.
Dear old Ireland has just forfeited Home Rule for possible Rome rule -
or at least amoebic rule from Brussells, in the hope unemployment will go
down.
Western Civilisation has survived as much in spite of religion, as
because of it, and Science has advanced due to risk-taking by innovators,
such as Galileo and Bruno - where clash with Church doctrine meant your life
could be forfeit.
Sorry, but atheism is likely to increase, as people find God
increasingly remote and indifferent.
The tsunamis, earthquakes, and hurricanes, in the Pacific (peaceful!),
need some explaining in terms of a caring and loving God. Let us pray!
======================================
Deus, ex humanus
===============
God may be a spirit,
But has seen better days.
His Acts are few and far between,
His wonders don't amaze.
'Tis Science how for "miracles",
For Acts, and what is True.
For Method, and your Way of Life,
And what you ought to do.
If Man's a Social Animal,
That's all you need to know,
And when our Species is Extinct,
Our God, with us, will go.
=======================
Jimbo
>
> - Show quoted text -
No theist can argue with the greatest theist of the 20th century,
hitler.
default
wrote:
>
>I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>in the Atheist Paradise of North Kore
I seriously doubt an atheist paradise is run by a dictator that tells
his people that he is god. N Korea isn't atheist - more like David
Koreshean.
If all atheists left a country - the average I.Q. would drop 50 points
and they would starve to death in a year.
be careful what you wish for
--
fasgnadh
> On Oct 3, 5:31 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 2, 9:45 pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 2, 9:24 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Communism as it existed in the former USSR and various other places,
>>>> and in it's present incarnations if you will, is a not only an
>>>> economic system (please!) but also a political as well as social
>>>> phenomenon. Anyone who posits that it's solely economic is delusional
>>>> frankly. It IS totalitarian, because the state in essence becomes
>>>> *god*. All must surrender their individual ambitions and honor the
>>>> will of the state (actually the will of the ruling body). Freedoms are
>>>> squelched in a big way, *beliefs* are not welcome, because they tend
>>>> to liberate if you will the soul.
>>>> Atheists, many, either work to end religion, or simply wish it would
>>>> go away. Atheists, therefore, are routed in a totalitarian mindset.
>>>> Atheism is the spirit of communism.
>>>>
>
Name the Members of the Soviet Government who were?
Name the Members of Mao's Government who were?
No proof, no credibility..
(as if you had any anyway: )
It is amusing to watch Militant Atheists deny the very existence of
the atheist states. Why no pride in atheist 'accomplishment'?
Because EVERY atheist state has been a totalitarian tyranny:
The USSR
over 30,000,000 dead
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense"
- Stalin
E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;
The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
Maoist China;
over 30,000,000 dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrUHVFkm9A
and Pol Pots Cambodian GENOCIDE where the HATRED of Atheist
Bigots was manifest in people being CRUCIFIED;
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
Militant atheists preserve the SPIRIT of their predecessors:
Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
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# Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
#
# On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#
# > We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists.
# >
# > BAAWA is back. You Knights out there better start being Knights
# > because if I don't see blood, and soon, you're gone.
# >
# > We kill theists and shit down their throats
# >
# > Warlord Steve
# > BAAWA
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------
# BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
--
alt.atheism FAQ:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
fasgnadh
So that's a YES! B^]
> Who was Alan Turning,
You don't know? I was using the Turing Machine to make fun
of ignorant bigots like you MIA's* years ago:
http://www.geocities.com/aus_culture_trueblue_moderator/actb_nkoty_2004.html
Geocities is closing down so here's a screen print from my archive:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6959/netkook2004.jpg
http://yfrog.com/14netkook2004j
This should have given you the clue, becasue you are clearly
clueless: "He also doesn't post here, probably because he's dead,
possibly from shame because of you Militant Atheists." B^p
Not knowing who Turing is makes you what?
> complete dumbshit?
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/DunadanLord/magic8ballsaysyoureone.jpg
* MIA - Militant Ignorant Atheist
>
>
>>>
>>> B^]
>>>
>>>> but should
>>>> certainly be militant in opposing any attempts to infiltrate
>>>> their beliefs into our lives.
>>>
>>> Then go to Nth Korea where they persecute and
duke
Yeah, but we outnumber you 24:1. Pack your bags.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
duke
Yeah, but you're comparing atheists to dogs. I think the IQ would go up for
the doggie world.
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
server.bigpond.net.au:
> Why don't Atheists move to an Atheist state?
Because it pisses you off. Your life has no meaning without us, frognads.
--
Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939
Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
Self-indulgent scribbles: http://pareidolia-global.blogspot.com/
Scary thought: Sarah Palin IS a GOP intellectual.
fasgnadh
> Davej called Alan Turing a parasite: 8^o
>>> Davej wrote:
>>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> Les wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>>>>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>>>>>
>>>>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>>>>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>>>>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>>>>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>>>>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
>>>>> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
>>>>> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
>>>>> bigot beliefs lie!
>>>>
>>>> Oh, you mean parasites like Alan Turing.
>>>
>>> No,
I can't believe these ignorant Militant atheists would call
an intelligent atheist like Turing a 'parasite' when he wasn't
and THEY are.
So that's TWO unanswered Questions:
- Why don't Militant atheists fuck off to Nth Korea? and
- why do pond scum like DJ with no accomplishments in life,
abuse a genius like Turing? ..who I was writing about when
DJ was still in nappies(which could, of course, have been
quite recently ;-).
>>> He doesn't whine about the Majority Religious
>>> societies which provide you with everything Nth
>>> Korea (the only remaining Atheist state) wouldn't.
>>> He also doesn't post here, probably because he's dead,
>>> possibly from shame because of you Militant Atheists.
>>>
>>> I mean parasites like Virgil,
> until
> toilet trained,
> nobody will issue him a passport.
Ok, so Virgils reasons for not going to Nth Korea are clear,
not even Nth Korea wants him.. but what about the rest of
the MIA's ?
>>> Trance Gemini, and Warlord Fluffy
>>> who enjoy the benefits of a majority religious society because
>>> its just SO MUCH BETTER than any atheist shithole tyranny in history.
>>>
They are too frightened to answer, as usual.
I answered Trances last public Question, but then, i
have honour and credibility.. she has neither.
>>> So why do you inconsequential nobody parasites try to deflect my
>>> criticism of you towards a brilliant mathematician, who I'm on record
>>> as praising...
I MOCKED those who, like Virgil, DJ and Chris Lee, suffer the
same limitations as early Turing machines.. not intelligent enough
to fool peoiple into thinking they are sentient!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA
>>> do you really think your critics are BLIND BIGOTS
>>> just because you are?
Again we must take their silence as an admission that MIA's ARE that
thick!
>>> I'm not the one saying "we Kill Atheists" , I have nothing against
>>> atheists, It's the Militant Atheist parasites which DESERVE criticism
>>> for their psycho-sexual violence that I criticise.
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<128235a0-640d-495a...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>
# Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
#
# On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#
# > We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists.
# >
# > BAAWA is back. You Knights out there better start being Knights
# > because if I don't see blood, and soon, you're gone.
# >
# > We kill theists and shit down their throats
# > and not in a girly way.
# >
# > Warlord Steve
# > BAAWA
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------
# BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
Trance the psycho was the ONLY NUTJOB IN USENET to sign up to
Kill theists and shit down their throats! 8^o
Her and ex-Warlord Fluffy must be feeling that particular lonleyness
when two not-so-bright misfits decide it will be cool fun to
put lampshades on their heads and do the dance of the Flaming
Arseholes... and everyone just looks embarassed by their antics and
looks away! B^D
>>> So why do you defend them, becasue you share their hatred and
>>> bigotry toward 'Theists'??
>>>
We will take the continuing silence as acquiescence, again.
>>> I'm part of the Atheist Reform Movement, not the
>>> Militant atheists "Kill Theists" cult!
>>>
>>> My goal is to improve you, Militant atheist's goal is to 'Kill them'.
>>>
>>> Are you really so lacking in judgement that you can't see the difference.
>>>
>>> LOL.
>>
>> So that's a YES! B^]
>>
>>> Who was Alan Turning,
>>
>> You don't know?
It's tragic that Atheists can be so ignorant.
I guess, coming from the IT industry it's natural that I
knew of Turing so long ago I used to mock morons like Virgil,
DJ and Chris Lee years ago, using witty references to the
Turing Machine;
>> I was using the Turing Machine to make fun
>> of ignorant bigots like you MIA's* years ago:
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/aus_culture_trueblue_moderator/actb_nkoty_2004.html
>>
>> Geocities is closing down so here's a screen print from my archive:
>>
>> http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6959/netkook2004.jpg
>>
>> http://yfrog.com/14netkook2004j
>>
>> http://yfrog.com/5fturing1j
>>
>>
>> This should have given you the clue, becasue you are clearly
>> clueless: "He also doesn't post here, probably because he's dead,
>> possibly from shame because of you Militant Atheists." B^p
>>
>>
>> Not knowing who Turing is makes you what?
>>
>> > complete dumbshit?
>>
>> http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/DunadanLord/magic8ballsaysyoureone.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> * MIA - Militant Ignorant Atheist
>>
Speaking of Turing Machines, here's one of those early attempts,
the Chris Lee Mk 1.6 (same as his measured IQ) who functioned
solely by regurgitating cut-and-paste-text, much like the Post-Modernist
Generator! B^D
> he took chemical castration
About the only thing he has in common with Militant Atheists! B^D
Still, even a primitive cut-and-paste failed attempt at building
a Turong Machine as Chuck-Key Lee is useful for confirming my
reference to why Turing could not be the 'Parasite' DaveJ called
him:
"No, ..He doesn't whine about the Majority Religious
societies which provide you with everything Nth
Korea (the only remaining Atheist state) wouldn't.
He also doesn't post here, probably because he's dead"
^^^^^^^^^^
> finally commited suicide in 1954.
Why do we need a clumsy attempt at a Turing Machine like Drill-Chuck
Lee, when we have his entire script online:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
>>>>> B^]
>>>>>
>>>>>> but should
>>>>>> certainly be militant in opposing any attempts to infiltrate
>>>>>> their beliefs into our lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then go to Nth Korea where they persecute and
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Davej wrote:
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> Les wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>>>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>>>>
>>>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>>>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>>>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>>>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>>>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>>>>
>>>> Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
>>>> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
>>>> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
>>>> bigot beliefs lie!
>>>
>>> Oh, you mean parasites like Alan Turing.
It is disgraceful that these Militant Homophobic Atheist thugs
slander the memory of that man!
>> No, He doesn't whine about the Majority Religious
>> societies which provide you with everything Nth
>> Korea (the only remaining Atheist state) wouldn't.
>> He also doesn't post here, probably because he's dead,
>> possibly from shame because of you Militant Atheists.
>>
>> I mean parasites like Virgil, Trance Gemini, and Warlord Fluffy
>> who enjoy the benefits of a majority religious society because
>> its just SO MUCH BETTER than any atheist shithole tyranny in history.
>>
>> So why do you inconsequential nobody parasites try to deflect my
>> criticism of you towards a brilliant mathematician, who I'm on record
>> as praising... do you really think your critics are BLIND BIGOTS
>> just because you are?
>>
>> I'm not the one saying "we Kill Atheists" , I have nothing against
>> atheists, It's the Militant Atheist parasites which DESERVE criticism
>> fo their psycho-sexual violence that I criticise.
>>
>> So why do you defend them, because you share their hatred and
>> bigotry toward 'Theists'
>>
>>
>> I'm part of the Atheist Reform Movement, not the
>> Militant atheists "Kill Theists" cult!
>>
>> My goal is to improve you, Militant atheist's goal is to 'Kill them'.
>>
>> Are you really so lacking in judgement that you can't see the difference.
>>
>
> I suggest that
> fasgnadh emigrate to some more totally religious country like Iran.
How is Iran 'more totally religious' than the majority religious
pluralist democracies like the USA, Europe, Indonesia, India,
or Australia?
They represent the majority of religious, not Iran, just as
the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot and Nth Korea represent the
majority of Militant atheists, and ALL of the atheist states in
history.
Thanks for demonstrating that gnostics and theists have freedom
and choices and you have to admit that your Atheism is BUNK, and you
prefer a majority religious society to ANY atheist state...
As do all you atheist HYPOCRITES and FRAUDS!
fasgnadh
>> # monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
>> # Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
>> # other religious sentiments were often killed.
>> # ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
>> # and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
>> # and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
>> # starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
>> # prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
>> # instead of the family.
>> #
>> # About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
Thanks for warning me.. as you haven't answered the question,
obviously can't refute a single fact in my post and plan to
give us the 'same old spiel' I have more important
matters to attend to.. putting the garbage out in the REAL
World, just like I do in alt.atheism..
get back to me if you can EVER answer the question!?
<snip 'same old spiel'>
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> I have more important
> matters to attend to.. putting the garbage out in the REAL
> World, just like I do in alt.atheism.
The only things that fasgnadh puts into any NG, or anywhere else, is his
own garbage.
fasgnadh
> re...@freeplace.com wrote:
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>> Les wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>>>
>>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go and live
>>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>>>
So.. the 60,000,000-dead-victims-of-atheist-holocaust-question..
WHY DON'T THEY??? B^]
In this post we see, they are secret seekers of,
yearners for, and BELIEVERS in ...God! 8^o
>>> Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
>>> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
>>> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
>>> bigot beliefs lie!
>>>
>>> B^]
>>>
>>>> but should
>>>> certainly be militant in opposing any attempts to infiltrate
>>>> their beliefs into our lives.
>>>
>>> Then go to Nth Korea where they persecute and
>>> kill anyone who dissents from atheist dogma.. the ONLY
>>> atheist state where tyranny ensures you wont be infected by the
>>> Human rights of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of belief.
>>>
>>>
>> While you are busy castigating free thinking athiests
I reject the ridiculous claim by this Nth Korean (paid?) stooge, that
the DPRK is in ANY way 'Free Thinking'!! B^p Atheist, yes, of course,
but there is NO FREEDOM and NO THINKING in atheist Nth Korea!
Q.E.D.
So, show where I have 'castigated ANY free thinkers', ever..
or APOLOGISE FOR YOUR SLANDER you stinking tool of the stinking
Nth Korean TYRANNY!
You criminal fucks can't even FEED your people!
I have castigated Militant Atheist TYRANNIES, and those complicit,
the Militant Atheist Fifth Column in the West which you and the rest
of the defenders of Nth Korea represent...
So.. why don't you traitors fuck off to your 'Free-Thinking' Nth
Korean Dystopia??? eh?
>>> I cant help thinking,
Of course not, you can't help with anything that requires a brain,
you Spokes-Orc for the Nth Korean Atheist tyranny!!!
>>> well,at least they dont cause the death of thousands in an
>>> earthquake like your god
a) earthquakes are the product of natural forces, which are
clearly beyond the primitive science of you, Kim ill Dum Fuk! B^D
[If it wasn't for theists like Copernicus and Galileo these
atheist PRIMITIVES would still believe the Earth is Flat! B^]
b) there is no 'my god'. I'm an agnostic. Don't feel bad, all
you FUNDIE atheists who are are incapable of rational thought
and discourse simply PROJECT your ignorance and prejudices
onto others.... and then Mass-Debate your OWN strawmen.
It is a well documented, if ludicrously funny, tactic of MIAs
Militant Idiot Atheists.
c) Can you explain how this god you don't believe in does stuff?
d) now that you are a believer,...
PROVE THIS god OF YOURS exists!!!
Or, like every other atheist liar...
RUN AWAY and admit you are a fraud!
>>> rebel.
...without a clue! B^]
>> Suppose it's satan causing the earthquake?
>
> Try supposing you're sober.
Yeah.. listen to the atheists.. ONLY THEIR GOD IS REAL!!! B^D
Satan is merely the ABSENCE of God, like atheism is merely
the absence of theism and Evil is merely the absence of good!
These newly converted atheists don't believe in Satan, only God!
This is a Miracle! Praise His Holy Name!!!!
Sing Hosanna in the Highest! BWAHAHAHAAHAAAAA!
John Martyn sang it, years ago,
"I don't want to know about Evil,
I only want to know about Love...!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIqQ01RduIw
Yes.. YES!!! ...oh YES!!!!!!!
Music is a Ladder for the soul to ascend! B^]
Since ex-BAAWA e-warlord Fluffy found God, other
atheist like these two have also seen the error of their
wicked ways and become BELIEVERS!
# Subject: Militant ex-Atheist 'Warlord', Steve Knight finds God and
CONVERTS!
# - Praise God! 8^D
# From: Warlord MaJik8 <MaJ...@delphic.oracle>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,
# alt.religion.christianity,alt.bible,alt.agnosticism,
# alt.politics.republicans,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
# Message-ID: <X2%wm.44465$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:58:15 GMT
#
# Steve Knight wrote:
#
#
# Brothers, IT'S A MIRACLE!!
#
# For years atheists have demanded 'Show Us Proof of God"
#
# Well, this sinner was once the self proclaimed 'Warlord' {snigger}
# of a militant atheist group who declared:
#
# # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
# #
# # We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# # not in a girly way.
#
#
# Can you imagine anyone more lost to God?
#
# But after may prayers for his soul, many tearful,
# heartfelt importuning for him to SEE THE LIGHT...
#
# PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED: Praise God!
#
# >
# > God = Love
#
# That's it!
#
# The keys to the Kingdom!
#
# The religion of love is a part from all religions.
# The lovers of God have no religion but God alone
# -The Mathnawi II, 1720
#
# Bring forth the fatted calf and let us all CELEBRATE!
..strangely, and I think it's because they have Bad
Conscience, they don't believe God is responsible
for all the GOOD things in Life, like beauty, beer
and Great Sex, because they have never had
those things, and so, grumpily, they believe god is not
responsible for all the wonderful things the rest of us
take for granted, but only for the premature ejaculation
and horrible STDs from which THEY suffer! B^]
No wonder atheists are so FUCKED UP and ANGRY at everything,
..they blame god for their tiny penises and genital warts! B^D
fasgnadh
> On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:30:42 GMT, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Kore
>
> I seriously doubt an atheist paradise
Sure, I was being Ironic.. Nth Korea, like EVERY atheist
state in history is a totalitarian SHITHOLE!
Everyone except atheists with IDD (Irony Deficit Disorder) got it.
If you move from South Korea, which has religious and
other freedoms, to Atheist Nth Korea..
> - the average I.Q. would drop 50 points
> and they would starve to death in a year.
Oh yes.. the famines are documented, just like the other
atheist tyrannies, the Union of Savage Slaughter and Repression(USSR),
Mao's Great Leap Backwards and Cultural DEVOLUTION, and Pol Pots
Cambodian genocide.. over 60,000,000 people killed in the past
century.. no religious faith even comes close to the Atheist holocausts.
I wish all you brainless fuckwits WOULD grow some balls, like Trance
Stupor has, stop being complete HYPOCRITES and put your wives and
children where your lying MOUTHs are.. the atheist Nth Korean state!!
> be careful what you wish for
Oh, I am on pretty safe ground, none of you parasites are ever
going to leave the predominately RELIGIOUS societies you leech off!
You just like to PRETEND you are like the red-blooded atheists
of the murderous regimes you can now only DREAM OF and PLAYACT with
Bellicose BULLSHIT;
Not only does Trance KNOW about Militant Atheism.. SHE IS ONE:
Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<128235a0-640d-495a...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>
# Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
#
# On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#
# > We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists.
# >
# > BAAWA is back. You Knights out there better start being Knights
# > because if I don't see blood, and soon, you're gone.
# >
# > We kill theists and shit down their throats
# > and not in a girly way.
# >
# > Warlord Steve
# > BAAWA
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------
# BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
fasgnadh
Indeed
# From: Les <les...@fakeaddress.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Message-ID: <vdjhc5537dn5bait3...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:32:43 +0100
# Xref: news-server.bigpond.net.au alt.atheism:2817095
#
# On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:20:19 GMT, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
# wrote:
# >Jimbo wrote:
#
#>> On Oct 2, 9:24 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#>>
# >>> Communism as it existed in the former USSR and
# >>> various other places, and in it's present incarnations
# >>> if you will, is a not only an economic system
# >>>( please!) but also a political as well as social
# >>> phenomenon. Anyone who posits that it's solely economic
# >>> is delusional frankly. It IS totalitarian,
# ...
# >>> All must surrender their individual ambitions
# >>> and honor the
# >>> will of the state (actually the will of the ruling body).
# >>> Freedoms are squelched in a big way,
# >>> *beliefs* are not welcome, because they tend
# >>> to liberate if you will the soul.
# >>> Atheists, many, either work to end religion, or
# >>> simply wish it would go away. Atheists, therefore,
# >>> are routed in a totalitarian mindset.
# >>> Atheism is the spirit of communism.
# >>
# >
# >Lenin admitted it, and every atheist state, ALL OF THEM totalitarian
# >tyrannies, PROVED IT!
# >
# >
# > "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
# > -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
#
# Well of course,
--
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http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
Judicial Corruption Australia
total meltdown of democracy
>Revolution is nigh
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en
Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
victimised and unlawfully discriminated against as he exposed unsafe
working conditions in the Navy, that put public safety and lives at
risk.
He approached HREOC with a complaint under HREOCA1986 and RDA1975;
what he found was institutional racism, coverup and perverting of the
Human Rights Act, violating Australia's obligation under International
Treaties ICCPR and ICERD. The president of HREOC, John von Doussa
violated HREOAC1986 in refusing to investigate his White mates, and
then refusing to terminate the complaints so that it can be heard in
the Federal Courts.
More institutionalised racism occurred at the Administrative Appeals
Tribunal, where Senior Member John Handley proceeded to pervert
justice by fabricating documents and evidence.
Questions of Law will be asked of the validity of the HREOAC1986 and
RDA1975 as the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee,
chair and co-chair, Senators Barnett and Crossin indicated that
Inquiries into Access to Justice, Australia's Legal System and the
Role of Judges should not be of assistance to Australian Citizens of
ethnic backgrounds.
Institutionalised racism and corruption in the Judiciary have made
political prisoners of Aborigines such as Lex Wotton, dogwhistled to
corrupt police leading to Black Deaths in Custody, putting public
health and safety in jeopardy, and allowing a four (4) year old
Aborigines girl to die after having been refused medical care at a Qld
hospital, political assasination of Phuong Ngo, political assasination
of Frederick Toben.
They set them up to fail and when they fail, they call them inferior
and lock them up.
Racist and corrupt White nation inciting racial hatred and Black
Deaths in Custody, reduce the Black Man to fight for his basic human
rights
The High Court Australia has been labelled racist by Justice Michael
Kirby. The Australian Michael Pelley called the High Court racist and
hyprocrites. They are so afraid of the HREOCA1986, because even the
High Court Australia must obey an Act of Parliament.
Corrupt and racist Judiciary will fight with all its might and means
to deprive us of HREOCA1986, to deprive us of Habeas Corpus as we file
such writs for Lex Wotton, Phuong Ngo, and Frederick Toben. We might
not like their politics or ethnicity, but their loss of judicial
independence and fairness, and their experience of judicial abuse of
discretionary powers will greatly affect us all now and in the future.
Until Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee and Australian
Parliament secede from ICCPR and ICERD, even the High Court must obey
HREOCA1986. We must fight for HREOCA1986 even if the Corrupt changes
its name, because it is the only Bill of Rights we have."
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
> If Institutionalised Racism kills, High Court Australia criminal? You
>bet
>
>http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2137/75221326522959327217259.jpg
>
>
>
>http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif
>
><img src="http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif">
>
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia
Cant the Whiteman be trusted with a signed Treaty?
Come join this petition, and save American Taxpayers' dollars on
useless UN rorts that only go to fuel terrorism through their
hypocrisy and abuse of UN process, and the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights.
<a
href="http://www.change.org/actions/view/
request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia">change.org</
a>
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href="http://www.change.org/actions/view/
request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia">Change.org</
a>
<blockquote>
The Hypocrisy of the UN Human Rights Bodies continues unabated. It
seems like the western world can do no wrong, and western countries
like Australia can ride rougshod over UN Human Rights Treaties, and at
the same time can dictate to less developed nations.
REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html
1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers
2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System
Universal declaration on human rights
come join my group and help assist the OHCHR uphold its human rights
mandates
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10385581643
Below and an account of Institutionalised racism within in the
Australian Judicial System and the High Court Australia:
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
NB. i need the email address of the UN Secretary General
Torsten Schackel
Acting Secretary of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Human Rights Treaties Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.9614 - Fax +41.22.917.90.29
e-mail: tsch...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland
Joyce Fucio,
Administrative Assistant
Secretariat of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Treaties and Commission Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.94.09 - Fax +41.22.917.90.22
e-mail: jfu...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland
"Under Article 14 of International Convenant on the Elimination of All
Forms of Racial Discrimination, individuals can file submissions to
the International Committee on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial
Discrimination if the country has signed the UN ICERD Treaty and allow
the Committee to hear such submissions.
The Committee has a moral obligation if not a legal obligation to
investigate and make recommendations. The Committee has a moral duty
if not legal obligation to return correspondence.
REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html
1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers
2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System
The lack of correpondence from the Committee shed bad light on the UN
process as a whole and violates the Universal Declaration on Human
Rights.
We urge Mr Secretary General Mr Ban Ki-Moon to request that the
Committee carry out their duty and make Dignity and Justice for ALL
and not just some people."
</blockquote>
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
victimised and unlawfully discriminated against as he exposed unsafe
working conditions in the Navy, that put public safety and lives at
risk.
He approached HREOC with a complaint under HREOCA1986 and RDA1975;
what he found was institutional racism, coverup and perverting of the
Human Rights Act, violating Australia's obligation under International
Treaties ICCPR and ICERD. The president of HREOC, John von Doussa
violated HREOAC1986 in refusing to investigate his White mates, and
then refusing to terminate the complaints so that it can be heard in
the Federal Courts.
More institutionalised racism occurred at the Administrative Appeals
Tribunal, where Senior Member John Handley proceeded to pervert
justice by fabricating documents and evidence.
Questions of Law will be asked of the validity of the HREOAC1986 and
RDA1975 as the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee,
chair and co-chair, Senators Barnett and Crossin indicated that
Inquiries into Access to Justice, Australia's Legal System and the
Role of Judges should not be of assistance to Australian Citizens of
ethnic backgrounds.
Institutionalised racism and corruption in the Judiciary have made
political prisoners of Aborigines such as Lex Wotton, dogwhistled to
corrupt police leading to Black Deaths in Custody, putting public
health and safety in jeopardy, and allowing a four (4) year old
Aborigines girl to die after having been refused medical care at a Qld
hospital, political assasination of Phuong Ngo, political assasination
of Frederick Toben.
They set them up to fail and when they fail, they call them inferior
and lock them up.
Racist and corrupt White nation inciting racial hatred and Black
Deaths in Custody, reduce the Black Man to fight for his basic human
rights
The High Court Australia has been labelled racist by Justice Michael
Kirby. The Australian Michael Pelley called the High Court racist and
hyprocrites. They are so afraid of the HREOCA1986, because even the
High Court Australia must obey an Act of Parliament.
Corrupt and racist Judiciary will fight with all its might and means
to deprive us of HREOCA1986, to deprive us of Habeas Corpus as we file
such writs for Lex Wotton, Phuong Ngo, and Frederick Toben. We might
not like their politics or ethnicity, but their loss of judicial
independence and fairness, and their experience of judicial abuse of
discretionary powers will greatly affect us all now and in the future.
Until Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee and Australian
Parliament secede from ICCPR and ICERD, even the High Court must obey
HREOCA1986. We must fight for HREOCA1986 even if the Corrupt changes
its name, because it is the only Bill of Rights we have."
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
....
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why little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard?
why must you cover up for your crooked white mates like crooked high
court judges French, Hayne, Gummow and Crennan JJ ?
Senate Enquiries: Whitewash
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/legcon_ctte/judicial_system/in...
iWitness: Judicial Corruption Australia
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php?/topic/2217-y...
Heres a Documentary on how these corrupt judges conspire to pervert
justice and fabricate documents, include the newly appointed Chief
Justice Robert Stenton French
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ
The little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard neverending Magic Pudding therapy,
where feckin white pedophiles with the nerve to accuse blackfellas !!!
Crooked racist white Australia ^^
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/user/fightKangarooCourts
duke
>> I have more important
>> matters to attend to.. putting the garbage out in the REAL
>> World, just like I do in alt.atheism.
>The only things that fasgnadh puts into any NG, or anywhere else, is his
>own garbage.
It doesn't stink like yours.
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
.=,
fasgnadh
>
> the Justice League which later became the Comintern
http://scifipulse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/justice_league.jpg
> consisted exclusively of theists with the exception of Marx.
Groucho, or Harpo? ...you stupid clown.
> Once it became the Comintern
Bullshit;
Members of the Comintern, you ridiculous cretin;
* Communist Party of Armenia
* Central Bureau's Azerbaijani Section
* Communist Party of Bulgaria
* Socialist Workers' Party of China
* Communist Party of Czechoslovakia
* Communist Party of German Austria
* Communist Party of Finland
* Communist Party of France
* Zimmerwald Left Wing of France (see also French Section of the
Workers' International (SFIO))
* Central Bureau's Georgian Section
* Communist Party of Germany
* Communist Party of Great Britain
* Communist Party of Hungary
* Worker's Union of Korea
* Communist Party of Latvia
* Social-Democrats of the Netherlands
* Central Bureau's Persian Section
* Communist Party of Poland
* Balkan Revolutionary People's of Russia
* Communist Party of Russia
* Social Democratic Left Party of Sweden
* Communist Party of Switzerland
* Central Bureau's Turkestan Section
* Communist Party (Bolshevik) of Ukraine
* Socialist Labor Party of the United States
* Socialist Propaganda League of the United Kingdom
* Communist Party of Volga region in Russia
* Communist Party of Yugoslavia
Just highlight the "Theists" in that lot,
you lying atheist bitch! B^D
> it's origins were theistic nevertheless.
You are SO full of Shit, it's a wonder you don't explode! B^D
All you cartoon characters are a joke, but you are right that
superheros are Theists, Trance, just like
all evil ones perish, ....must make you nervous. B^D
> even if we accept the specious claims
No one accepts any of your specious claims...
NONE OF THEM ARE TRUE!
Judicial Corruption Australia
Australian Human Rights [sic] Act, No more equal Opportunity
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
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Warlord MaJik8
The whole of this post was comic, trance took a
satirical post by an ATHEIST BLOGGER and treated it as if
it was real research! That was funny.
But this is the nominated portion because it demonstrates the
Militant Atheist penchant for COMPLETE FABRICATION and Fantasy.
We are all familiar with MIAs (Militant Idiot Atheists) making
stuff up, claiming they are 'warlords' or experts at anagrams,
..they live in a world of DELUSION, or Maya, as the Buddhists
would call it, but when Atheists present their Comic Book Crap
as their most serious 'rational' argument then it is time for the
sound of mocking laughter to ring in their ears
Trance Gemini wrote:
Your BAAWA Warlord is v ery angry with you Trance, for making
fools of the Atheist cause....
> On Oct 2, 10:08 am, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:32:08 -0700 (PDT), Trance Gemini
>> <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Oct 2, 9:01 am, Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 2, 7:53 am, Warlord MaJik8 <MaJ...@delphic.oracle> wrote:
>>> <snipped>
>>>>> No figures? No credibility
That was prescient! LOL!
@@@@@@ Nominated portion: @@@@@
> In addition, the Justice League which later became the Comintern
> consisted exclusively of theists with the exception of Marx.
The Justice league,
http://captainotter.today.com/files/2009/07/justice_league.jpg
...which one is Marx?
What is Batman's 'Religion'? HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAA!
I know for Certain that Green Lantern is an atheist!
Google his posts in alt.atheism!
When did DC's comic Superhero's join you Militant
Atheists in the Communist International?????
> even if we accept the specious claims
B^D NOT LIKELY, you poor dimwit!! B^D
@@@@@@ End Nominated portion
And that's the best they can do! All the other fawning
Atheist cretins simply SWALLOW that crap without thinking,
without checking, without ANY CRITICAL ANALYSIS!
The whole post by that clueless moron simply presents an
atheist blog, itself based on the same quality of 'research'(sic)
we see above! LOL!
Priceless
The Atheist Reform Movement is dedicated to removing
alt.atheism from the clutches of deluded New Age wankers,
hate-filled Bigots, fantacists, Wimpy Warlords (Hi Fluffy)
and people who lie about their ability to make anagrams Hi
Trance! ;-) returning it to people who want to not-believe
with dignity and SOME CREDIBILITY!
--------
The Parable of the Magic 8-Ball - Warlord Overboard!
Fluffy threw a Hissy fit and asked Google to
stop people reporting what he said:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.
Suffering from IDD (Irony Deficit Disorder), Fluffy
complained that REPORTING WHAT HE SAID, VERBATIM,
was 'abuse'.. and it was making him very very sad,
and could someone please stop them doing it!
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Atheist Kooks: Sociopath shifts blame to others
# for their mistakes Re: A.A. Steve Knight checking in to Bellevue
# Message-ID: <1jivb5dparaegkqht...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:32:49 -0700
#
# FAQ pages for alt.atheism could land you in court.
#
# I reported you to Google abuse
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/DarkSoul0703/thmagic8ball.jpg
Google Laughed and asked him if he would accept
Jesus in his life, because it might be the only way
he could GET ONE!
The Knights of BAAWA realised they had bought a dud,
and decided to replace Fluffy as Warlord, with a
Magic 8-Ball after tests showed it outperformed
him in leadership, intelligence and more accurately
shitting down peoples throats, and it only cost 8 bucks!
Warlord MaJik8 was Interviewed after winning the job;
a.a: "Do you have any any words for the defeated ex-Warlord?"
MaJik8:
http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp329/adholmes0428/My%20Stuff/Magic8BallSays.jpg
a.a: "And what do you see as the future for alt.atheism
and atheism worldwide?"
MaJik8
http://blogs.netapp.com/exposed/WindowsLiveWriter/magic-8-ball-3.jpg
Refusing to accept that it was all over for him -Ex Warlord Fluffy
made a desperate attempt to hang on to power;
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll110/ashwu_xoxo/Halloween2008/IMG_2259.jpg
Warlord MaJik8 was devastating in his assessment:
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/DunadanLord/magic8ballsaysyoureone.jpg
Fluffy went out asking if the Blind Cricketer was still around because
he wanted to get far away, as quickly as he could.... ;-)
See "Fluffy leaves the Field":
raven1
<MaJ...@delphic.oracle> wrote:
>
>The whole of this post was comic, trance took a
>satirical post by an ATHEIST BLOGGER and treated it as if
>it was real research! That was funny.
>
>But this is the nominated portion because it demonstrates the
>Militant Atheist penchant for COMPLETE FABRICATION and Fantasy.
That will be $350 to replace the irony-ometer you just fried...
Warlord MaJik8
> Warlord MaJik8 wrote:
>>
>> The whole of this post was comic, trance took a
>> satirical post by an ATHEIST BLOGGER and treated it as if
>> it was real research! That was funny.
>>
>> But this is the nominated portion because it demonstrates the
>> Militant Atheist penchant for COMPLETE FABRICATION and Fantasy.
>>
Yes it was Hilarious to see the Big Bad 'Warlord'(sniffer, run
crying to it's MUMMY bleating about ABUSE because he was
ACCURATELY REPORTED!
Priceless!
--
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
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fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Trance Gemini lied through her teeth:
>>> On Oct 3, 5:31 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 2, 9:45 pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 2, 9:24 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Communism as it existed in the former USSR and various other places,
>>>>>> and in it's present incarnations if you will, is a not only an
>>>>>> economic system (please!) but also a political as well as social
>>>>>> phenomenon. Anyone who posits that it's solely economic is delusional
>>>>>> frankly. It IS totalitarian, because the state in essence becomes
>>>>>> *god*. All must surrender their individual ambitions and honor the
>>>>>> will of the state (actually the will of the ruling body). Freedoms are
>>>>>> squelched in a big way, *beliefs* are not welcome, because they tend
>>>>>> to liberate if you will the soul.
>>>>>> Atheists, many, either work to end religion, or simply wish it would
>>>>>> go away. Atheists, therefore, are routed in a totalitarian mindset.
>>>>>> Atheism is the spirit of communism.
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> All Communist countries have theists who are communist.
>>
>>
>> Name the Members of the Soviet Government who were?
>
So that's a "No, we can't find any evidence for the slandering
Atheist Bitch's LIES!" from the Atheists!!!! B^D
That's her credibility in Usenet FUCKED, by one of her STOOGES! B^D
Priceless!
The Atheists made a false claim, they have to substantiate it with
proof, not those who challenge their lie! B^]
But as they can't, and they have conceded the Propaganda Princesss
is talking through her ample ARSE, here's the ATHEIST CREDENTIALS
of the first ATHEIST leader of the USSR and his successor, responsible
for over 30,000,000 dead:
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense"
- Stalin
E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;
The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
�We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.�
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
�Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!� (early Soviet slogan)
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
>> Name the Members of Mao's Government who were?
>>
>>
>> No proof, no credibility..
>
> Exactly! No proof, no credibility!
EXACTLY, Trance Genocide and Virgin'on Brain Dead are both
completely without CREDIBILITY! B^]
Judicial Corruption Australia
raven1
<MaJ...@delphic.oracle> wrote:
<snip 271 lines of idiocy>
*Yawn*.
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
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Warlord MaJik8
Are we keepin ye awake , ye wee baby! B^D
Why din't ye go park ye heed and have a wee kip!
http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
raven1
<MaJ...@delphic.oracle> wrote:
<snip 282 lines of meaningless puffery>
*Yawn*.
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
.
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Jimbo wrote:
>>> Warlord MaJik8 wrote:
>>>> Jimbo wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:47:25 +0100, Smiler wrote:
>>>>>>> TRUECRISTIAN[READ THE BIBLE VOte republican=Jesus] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> WAS ATHEISM IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF COMMUNISM?
>>>>>>> Your evidence for this
>>>>>> Numbers of murdered millions by official atheists...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mao Tse Tung: 65 million
>>>>>> Stalin: 25 million (Stalin +others in former USSR)
>>>>>> Vietnam: 1 million
>>>>>> North Korea: 2 million
>>>>>> Cambodia: 2 million
>>>>>> Eastern Europe: 1 million
>>>>>> Africa (various): 1.7 million
>>>>>> Afghanistan: 1.5 million
>>>>>> Others: 10,000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Total estimated deaths from offical atheism: 99 million.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:http://www.ncpa.org/debate2/blackbook.html
>>>>>> National Center for Policy Analysis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, let us suppose that modern man, post 1900, is far
>>>>>> more rational and reasonable than 11th to 13th Century
>>>>>> Roman Catholic Cultists, erroneously called Christians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One source puts the death toll of the crusades at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "thousands"
>>>>>> "thousands"
>>>>>> 10-60,000 + 100,000
>>>>>> "thousands"
>>>>>> 10,000
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 200,000
>>>>>> "numerous thousands"
>>>>>> 20 million
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being very generous with the numbers, I will change all sub-million
>>>>>> estimates to 1 million to ensure coverage of dodgy estimates and
>>>>>> various unknowns:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 1 million
>>>>>> 20 million
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Total: 28 million
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The total does not include the deaths of others for the following
>>>>>> categories:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ancient Pagans "thousands"
>>>>>> Mission 11,000
>>>>>> Heretics and Atheists
>>>>>> "numerous thousands"
>>>>>> 0,000-70,000
>>>>>> 100,000
>>>>>> Witches (duplicates estimates, highest is "several hundred thousand")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other Religious Wars[*]
>>>>>> [*] This section includes all numbers estimates for deaths
>>>>>> due to Roman Catholic Cultists persecuting Christians
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Jews. Since these are murders perpetrated by cultsists,
>>>>>> it is probably questionable to include them since
>>>>>> Christians are the victims here. In fact, all of the
>>>>>> above numbers are demonstrably the crimes of an
>>>>>> an evil cult against humanity, not the crimes
>>>>>> of Christians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These numbers are left out because they relate
>>>>>> to religious wars between a cult and Christians,
>>>>>> where Christians were the victims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adding up the murderous totals for the Roman Catholic Cult, and
>>>>>> changing several hundreds of thousands of others into, oh, say several
>>>>>> million, 5 million will do, I get a total of 32 million deaths at the
>>>>>> hands of the cultists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comparing 32 million deaths at the hands of a cult, over against
>>>>>> 99 million at the hands of official atheists, I get a ratio of
>>>>>> close to 3 to 1, or about 33%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, 32 MILLION deaths erroneously ascribed to Christians,
>>>>>> perpetrated over SIX HUNDRED YEARS ago, spanning a period of
>>>>>> about 300-400 years, against 99 MILLION in LESS THAN 100 YEARS
>>>>>> perpetrated by official atheists.
>>>>
>>>> On a per capita ruled per year basis, Atheism is the most savage
>>>> parasitic ideology ever to infect mankind.
>>>>
>>>>> 600 Years ago?
>>>>
>>>> http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/DarkSoul0703/thmagic8ball.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Apparently you're leaving out the numbers killed by
>>>>> Christians, such as Hitler (Catholic), and the aboriginal peoples
>>>>> killed by Christians on both the American continents, and Austrailia
>>>>> in the name of "divine right", and the most recent pogrom committed by
>>>>> Easter Orthodox Christians against Muslims in Bosnia.
>>>>
>>>> No figures? No credibility
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And that's JUST the Christians.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you can't aggregate them.
>>>>
>>>> According to you atheists they all believe DIFFERENT things.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Atheism, on the other hand, you tell us, is a single concept.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Toss in the deaths attributed to
>>>>> Muslim activity, and that is many millions more.
>>>>
>>>> No figures? No credibility
>>>>
>>>>>> So much for your assertion that "There is no atheist that was
>>>>>> responsible
>>>>>> for anything", eh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The difference being that
>>>>
>>>> Every Crime against humanity committed in the NAME of the major
>>>> world religions has been in direct violation of the ethical
>>>> principles spiritual teachings and LAW (commandments) of those
>>>> religions, and
>>>> is the aberrant behaviour of those who corrupted, perverted and
>>>> subverted the religion.
>>>>
>>>> This is proven by the fact that most of the prosperous, open,
>>>> democratic and pluralist democracies are majority religious
>>>> societies.. so it is NOT the religion which caused the
>>>> crimes in the others.
>>>>
>>>> But there is nothing in Atheism that prohibits such crimes.
>>>>
>>>> And that explains why EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian
>>>> tyranny.
>>>>
>>>> The empirical evidence from history is overwhelming.
>>>>
>>>> Any atheist hypocrite who chooses to LIVE in a tolerant, prosperous,
>>>> democratic pluralist MAJORITY RELIGIOUS society has to explain their
>>>> HYPOCRISY. I will pass the hat around so they can afford a one
>>>> way trip to Nth Korea... last of the Atheist Dystopias ! B^]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > no Atheist has ever placed Atheist symbols
>>>>
>>>> You have symbols? Apart from this one;
>>>>
>>>> http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I forgot...
>>>>
>>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>>>>
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
>>>>
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>>>> - Lenin
>>>>
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
>>>>
>>>> http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Atheist Holocaust deniers still celebrate mass murdering atheist
>>>> tyrants;
>>>>
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8294?context=latest
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8293?context=latest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > in the name of no god.
>>>>
>>>> http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/DunadanLord/magic8ballsaysyoureone.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to his daughter, Stalin was also Christian.
>>>
>>
>> You and I have already had this conversation, you lost
>> and ran away.. now you snip ALL those facts above
>> and repeat your ONE LITTLE LIE! B^p
>>
>> FOAD! You are a JOKE. incapable of rational argument!
>>
>> Go back to this thread where you previously ignored
>> ALL the EVIDENCE, advanced that nonsense and it was DEMOLISHED:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812)
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Newsgroups:
>> alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.jewish
>>
>> Subject: Re: Atheism Was Responsible For 60,000,000 dead
>> Message-ID: <aGWwm.44404$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
>> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:58:46 GMT
>>
>> Jimbo wrote:
>> > fasgnadh wrote:
>> >> Jimbo wrote:
>> >>>> * J wrote, On 9/22/09 10:57 AM:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> WAS ATHEISM IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF COMMUNISM?
>> >>>>> A major atheist (Richard Dawkins, I believe) was interviewed not
>> >>>>> long ago
>> >>>>> on a national station. During the interview, he was asked to
>> >>>>> justify the
>> >>>>> evils perpetrated on tens of millions by the atheist leader, Stalin.
>> >>>
>> >>> Stalin was not Atheist.
>> >>
>> >> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
>> >> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
>> >> Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
>> >>
>> >> atheist
>> >>
>> >> and then there is Lenin, who started the atheist holocausts;
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> >> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>> >>
>> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>> >>
>> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> >> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>> >>
>> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
>> >>
>> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>> >> - Lenin
>> >>
>> >> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
>> >>
>> >> http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
>>
>>
>> they think all the evidence of history can be ignored if a tyrants
>> DAUGHTER gives him a reference:
>>
>> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
>> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense"
>> - Stalin
>> E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
>> Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
>>
>> liars.. believe that a LIE about Stalin could be published
>> officially in 1940 WITHOUT STALIN'S APPROVAL!!???
>>
>> Like the Neo-Nazis, modern atheists make themselves COMPLICIT
>> by their holocaust denial!
>>
>> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
>> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
>> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
>> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
>> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
>>
>> The Russian Church and the Soviet State
>> (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
>>
>> Soviet Union's Central Committee from 1922 until his death in 1953.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> So Stalin was responsible for turning Christian priests into
>> human icy poles..
>>
>> "In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose,
>> the first Russian concentration camp was established
>> in the Solovki Islands in the White Sea"
>>
>> If Stalin was a Christian then Steve Knight is the POPE!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAH
>>
>> # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
>> #
>> > upon book in his library about Jesus, and Christianity. I had been
>> > agnostic for many years, and mostly ambivalent to religion itself, so
>> > I asked him if he believed in Jesus. He said that he did, that Jesus
>> > did exist. He told me of his journey to find the real Jesus and he
>> > was absolutely convinced that Jesus was the son of God. I must say
>> > that I was greatly surprised."
>> >
>> > Svetlana Iosifovna Alliluyeva, youngest daughter of Joseph Stalin and
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> > and Nadezhda Alliluyeva.
>>
>> And Uday Hussein says his Dad, Saddam, was a lovely caring Man! B^D
>>
>> http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj166/rev920/thread%20bombs/8Ball.gif
>>
>> Fer Fucks sake, how STUPID are you???
>>
>>
>> And Lenin, Mao POL POT and EVERY MEMBER OF THE PARTY, ALL ATHEISTS,
>> were in the SAME MOULD!!!!
>>
>> Read some history you ignorant apologist for the atheist holocausts!
>>
>>
>> We are SICK of the bogus claims of atheist psychopaths and criminals
>> designed to DISCREDIT religion by atheists associating themselves with it:
>>
>> # "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
>> # of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
>> # after being refused permission to put atheist
>> # advertising on buses." - The Age 29/1/2009
>> #
>> # "atheism counts as a religion, though we say
>> # we're not one," Dr Perkins said."
>>
>> Magic *-Ball says:
>>
>> http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/DarkSoul0703/thmagic8ball.jpg
>
> Fasgnadh is, of course, entirely wrong about the responsibility for the
> crimes of Communism.
Virgil and his Militant Atheist stooges just can't find ANY evidence for
their UNFOUNDED OPINIONS, and can't refute a SINGLE fact in my well
documented argument!
They are a JOKE! B^D
> If there had been
{insert wheedling atheist excuse and blame shifting for the facts]
> then Communism would have been entirely free from any need for
> atheism,
The Atheist Borg will be very happy to see the TRUTH, that Communism
has a need for Atheism as Lenin said, is now openly admitted by their
leader, Virgil.
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
> so it is all the fault of
[ Insert Atheist scapegoat de jour B^].
Poor atheists, even when admitting the 'Natural and Inseparable' link
between Atheism and Communism which their Comrade, Lenin, stated, the
weak atheists still cannot accept their OWN responsibility for their
atheist holocausts, killing over 60,000,000 in the 20th century!
fasgnadh
>> the Jews.
> Marx apparently had a lot of beefs.
Was it Kosher?
> Was the *Jewish* God also responsible for oppression of the Jews???
Do Atheists blame the God they don't believe in for 'allowing'
the Killing of Jews!??
Priceless!
> I'm not following this logic.
Virgil is an Atheist, they have no logic.
> But nihilist atheists aren't big on logic I've come to learn.
As we have all realised!
Steve Hayes
> > "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
> > -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
But communism is not a natural and insepatrable part of atheism.
>Poor atheists, even when admitting the 'Natural and Inseparable' link
>between Atheism and Communism which their Comrade, Lenin, stated, the
>weak atheists still cannot accept their OWN responsibility for their
>atheist holocausts, killing over 60,000,000 in the 20th century!
And what makes you think that ALL atheists bear responsibility for that?
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fasgnadh
>> >>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>> >> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
> But communism is not a natural and insepatrable part of atheism.
>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>>>
>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>>>
>>>
>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>
>>>> so it is all the fault of
>> [ Insert Atheist scapegoat de jour B^].
>>
>>
>> Poor atheists, even when admitting the 'Natural and Inseparable' link
>> between Atheism and Communism which their Comrade, Lenin, stated, the
>> weak atheists still cannot accept their OWN responsibility for their
>> atheist holocausts, killing over 60,000,000 in the 20th century!
>
> And what makes you think that ALL atheists bear
> responsibility for that?
What makes you think all atheists bear responsibility for that?
I said clearly 'weak atheists' not 'all' atheists.
I have already discussed how I do NOT share the Evil Doctrine of
Collective responsibility, by which militant Atheist bigots blame
all Mulsims, and even all RELIGIOUS, for the actions of a tiny minority
of Islamofascist individuals acting in BREACH of the principles of
Islam. And they castigate all Christians and even ALL religious, for
the heinous abuses by some priests and cover-up by some clerics.
I hold THOSE ATHEISTS who committed the Atheist Holocausts responsible.
What the contemporary atheists in alt.atheism ARE guilty of is holocaust
denial and defence of teh Atheist regimes, making them complicit, just
as neo-Nazis deny the Nazi Holocaust and defend the Nazi regime.
IF they were simply 'non-believers in GOd' there would be no problem,
but they ACT POLITICALLY to deny the death toll in Atheist states,
to defend those tyrannies, to falesly claim that 'religion' is
responsible on such flimsy grounds as 'Staling was a student in a
Seminary school'! pffffft!
When Nazis and Atheists start telling you their holocausts are
figments of imagination it's time to try them under Rule 303!
They even choose the same scape-goats as the Nazis;
>>>> so it is all the fault of
>>>> the Jews.
>>
>>> Marx apparently had a lot of beefs.
>>
>> Was it Kosher?
>>
>>> Was the *Jewish* God also responsible for oppression of the Jews???
>>
>> Do Atheists blame the God they don't believe in for 'allowing'
>> the Killing of Jews!??
>>
>> Priceless!
>>
>>> I'm not following this logic.
>>
>> Virgil is an Atheist, they have no logic.
>>
>>> But nihilist atheists aren't big on logic I've come to learn.
>>
>> As we have all realised!
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Meteorite Debris
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
> Steve Hayes wrote:
> > fasgnadh wrote:
a bunch of crap
That old strawman again. Give it a rest. It has been discredited more
times than you've had hot diners.
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Steve Hayes
>Steve Hayes wrote:
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>> Chris wrote:
>>> > Virgil wrote:
>>> >> fasgnadh wrote:
>>> >>> Jimbo wrote:
>>> >>>> Warlord MaJik8 wrote:
Nothing...
Sorry, I couldn't find your reply.
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The instruments of the churl are evil: he deviseth
wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words,
even when the needy speaketh right.
But the liberal deviseth liberal things;
and by liberal things shall he stand (Isaiah 32:7-8).
Les
Mr. anonymous hiding behind his 'fasgnadh' grotesque mask
(bought in the funny mask section of a local childrens toy shop
no doubt)
retched up in several newsgroups:
<massive snip of the same old lies and distortions>
Oh dear, still suffering from verbal diarrhoea I note
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
fasgnadh
>
>> On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:01:03 GMT, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
Faced with the clear evidence that Lenin was an atheist,
one of the most important and successful in history, in atheist terms,
all the atheists can do is Lie, distort, evade and insinuate weasel
words:
> Lenin probably thought atheism meant denying all religions but his
> one communist religion.
Where is your evidence Lenin 'believed in God?'
Atheists emphatically insist that ALL it takes to be an atheist
is to NOT BELIEVE IN GOD. Lenin (and Stalin and Mao, and Pol Pot, and
Kim ill Fuk) did not believe in God.
IF *THEY* are NOT atheists, then atheists DO NOT EXIST!!! B^]
There is more evidence that Trance Genocide and her BAAWA
cult cronies are religious than there is that Lenin had a 'religion';
Atheists openly admitting they worship animals:
# Subject: Re: Atheist vs Theist Pet Poll
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<94d8a483-13cd-4aa7...@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>
#
# On Oct 2, 4:19=A0pm, SkyEyes wrote:
# > On Oct 1, 6:36=A0pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
# >>> Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote
# >
# >>>> I know this is probably silly
# >>
# >> only true atheists have cats and only true cats have atheists.
# >
# > Cats choose atheists
# >
# > an atheist, being a non- practitioner of religion, will not
# > waste her/his worship on any being *other than* the cat.
# >
# > a cat *is the closest things to a Superior Being
#
# Beautifully put. This is quotable material. :-)
Atheists, is appears always
> totally deny the existence of all gods but their 'one true' god.
A fur ball puking feline which may be superior to atheists,
but is worn as fur by beings with a larger brain! B^D
So there is No Atheism, you all believe in something,
and your definition of 'religion' is so vague and broad that it
INCLUDES all atheists, not just the ones in alt.atheism, who
we have documented in their WORSHIP, but ones like Lenin,
who YOU claim is religious despite his words and actions! B^p
I declare the End Of Atheism! B^]
Praise God! B^D
It is amusing to watch DESPERATE atheists flounder about
trying to DENY SIMPLE TRUTH:
Lenin was an atheist, he led an atheist government and
implemented Militant atheist policies of persecuting
believers, forcibly indoctrinating children with atheism
seizing church and temple property and terrorising,
torturing and killing theists, including children.
> That is an inseperable part of their religions too
The Militant atheists made that clear, both in the USSR,
Maoist China, Pol Pots genocide and alt.atheism;
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<128235a0-640d-495a...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>
# Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
#
# On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
# >
# > We kill theists and shit down their throats
# > and not in a girly way.
# >
# > Warlord Steve
# > BAAWA
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------
# BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
>>> Poor atheists, even when admitting the 'Natural and Inseparable' link
>>> between Atheism and Communism which their Comrade, Lenin, stated, the
>>> weak atheists still cannot accept their OWN responsibility for their
>>> atheist holocausts, killing over 60,000,000 in the 20th century!
> Les Hellawell
The first Atheist to admit that Atheists DON'T EXIST. B^D
> Greetings from:
> YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
Greetings from THE REAL WORLD! B^]
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fasgnadh
Undeniable truth! That's why no atheists can refute it.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 600 Years ago?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/DarkSoul0703/thmagic8ball.jpg
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Apparently you're leaving out the numbers killed by
>>>> >>>>>> Christians
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No figures? No credibility
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And that's JUST the Christians.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, you can't aggregate them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to you atheists they all believe DIFFERENT things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Atheism, on the other hand, you tell us, is a single concept.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Toss in the deaths attributed to
>>>>>>>>>> Muslim activity, and that is many millions more.
No figures? No credibility
No atheists have provided any figures, no atheists have any credibility.
Cadit Quaetio!
>>>>>>>>>>> So much for your assertion that "There is no atheist that was
>>>>>>>>>>> responsible
>>>>>>>>>>> for anything", eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The difference being that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Every Crime against humanity committed in the NAME of the major
>>>>>>>>> world religions has been in direct violation of the ethical
>>>>>>>>> principles spiritual teachings and LAW (commandments) of those
>>>>>>>>> religions, and
>>>>>>>>> is the aberrant behaviour of those who corrupted, perverted and
>>>>>>>>> subverted the religion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is proven by the fact that most of the prosperous, open,
>>>>>>>>> democratic and pluralist democracies are majority religious
>>>>>>>>> societies.. so it is NOT the religion which caused the
>>>>>>>>> crimes in the others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But there is nothing in Atheism that prohibits such crimes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And that explains why EVERY atheist regime has been a
>>>>>>>>> totalitarian tyranny.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The empirical evidence from history is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any atheist hypocrite who chooses to LIVE in a tolerant,
>>>>>>>>> prosperous, democratic pluralist MAJORITY RELIGIOUS society
>>>>>>>>> has to explain their HYPOCRISY.
>>>>>>>>> I will pass the hat around so they can afford a one
>>>>>>>>> way trip to Nth Korea... last of the Atheist Dystopias ! B^]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Atheist Holocaust deniers still celebrate mass murdering atheist
>>>>>>>>> tyrants;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8294?context=latest
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8293?context=latest
>>>>>>>
Why have all the atheists cut and run?
> still suffering from verbal diarrhoea
You need to learn to separate the input to the
digestive tract from the output;
http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
> Les Hellawell
atheist lightweight, folded faster than the deck chairs on
the Titanic
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
-
fasgnadh
>>>>>> tyrants;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8294?context=latest
>>>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8293?context=latest
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You and I have already had this conversation, you lost
>>>> and ran away.. now you snip ALL those facts above
>>>> and repeat your ONE LITTLE LIE! B^p
>>>>
>>>> FOAD! You are a JOKE. incapable of rational argument!
>>>>
>>>> Go back to this thread where you previously ignored
>>>> ALL the EVIDENCE, advanced that nonsense and it was DEMOLISHED:
>>>>
>>>> Message-ID: <aGWwm.44404$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
>>>> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:58:46 GMT
>>>>
>>>> Jimbo wrote:
>>>> > fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> >> Jimbo wrote:
>>>> >>>> * J wrote, On 9/22/09 10:57 AM:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> WAS ATHEISM IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRIMES OF COMMUNISM?
>>>> >>>>> A major atheist (Richard Dawkins, I believe) was interviewed not
>>>> >>>>> long ago
>>>> >>>>> on a national station. During the interview, he was asked to
>>>> >>>>> justify the
>>>> >>>>> evils perpetrated on tens of millions by the atheist leader,
>>>> Stalin.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Stalin was not Atheist.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
>>>> >> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
>>>> >> - E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
>>>> >> Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Another lie told by another
>>>> >> atheist
>>>> >>
>>>> >> and then there is Lenin, who started the atheist holocausts;
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>> >> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> were in the SAME MOULD!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Read some history you ignorant apologist for the atheist holocausts!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are SICK of the bogus claims of atheist psychopaths and criminals
>>>> designed to DISCREDIT religion by atheists associating themselves
>>>> with it:
>>>>
>>>> # "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
>>>> # of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
>>>> # after being refused permission to put atheist
>>>> # advertising on buses." - The Age 29/1/2009
>>>> #
>>>> # "atheism counts as a religion, though we say
>>>> # we're not one," Dr Perkins said."
>>>>
>>>> Magic *-Ball says:
>>>>
>>>> http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/DarkSoul0703/thmagic8ball.jpg
>>
>> their UNFOUNDED OPINIONS, and can't refute a SINGLE fact in my well
>> documented argument!
>>
>> They are a JOKE! B^D
>>
>>
>>> If there had been
>> {insert wheedling atheist excuse and blame shifting for the facts]
>> > then Communism would have been entirely free from any need for
>>> atheism,
>>
>> The Atheist Borg will be very happy to see the TRUTH, that Communism
>> has a need for Atheism as Lenin said, is now openly admitted by their
>> leader, Virgil.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>>
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> > so it is all the fault of
>> [ Insert Atheist scapegoat de jour B^].
>>
>>
>> Poor atheists, even when admitting the 'Natural and Inseparable' link
>> between Atheism and Communism which their Comrade, Lenin, stated, the
>> weak atheists still cannot accept their OWN responsibility for their
>> atheist holocausts, killing over 60,000,000 in the 20th century!
>
All that truth you couldn't refute, REMAINS! B^]
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/DarkSoul0703/thmagic8ball.jpg
>> weak atheists still cannot accept their OWN responsibility for their
>> atheist holocausts, killing over 60,000,000 in the 20th century!
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<128235a0-640d-495a...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>
# Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
#
# On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#
# > We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists.
# >
# > BAAWA is back. You Knights out there better start being Knights
# > because if I don't see blood, and soon, you're gone.
# >
# > We kill theists and shit down their throats
# > and not in a girly way.
# >
# > Warlord Steve
# > BAAWA
#
# ------------------------------------------------------------------
# BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
And those Militant atheists continue the Propaganda of Pravda..
> continuously propagandizing
> in favor of hatred and prejudice,
> and reviling understanding and
> peacefulness between those of different opinions.
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Les wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:01:03 GMT, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>>
>> Faced with the clear evidence that Lenin was an atheist,
>> one of the most important and successful in history,
>> in atheist terms, all the atheists can do is Lie,
>> distort, evade and insinuate weasel words:
>>
>>> Lenin probably thought atheism meant denying all religions but his
>>> one communist religion.
>>
>> Where is your evidence Lenin 'believed in God?'
>
Answered already:
>> Atheists emphatically insist that ALL it takes to be an atheist
>> is to NOT BELIEVE IN GOD. Lenin (and Stalin and Mao, and Pol Pot, and
>> Kim ill Fuk) did not believe in God.
>>
>> IF *THEY* are NOT atheists, then atheists DO NOT EXIST!!! B^]
>
>>
>> There is more evidence that Trance Genocide and her BAAWA
>> cult cronies are religious than there is that Lenin had a 'religion';
>
> There are any number of religions without gods,
Sure, we know Atheists worship dumb animals but where is your, or
Les's evidence that Lenin's Atheism was 'a religion'?
If his atheism is a religion, then ALL atheism is!
THE END OF ATHEISM! B^D
>> Atheists openly admitting they worship animals:
>
> Where?
Right here: are you BLIND? B^D
"Atheists will not waste their worship on any being other than a cat";
>> # Subject: Re: Atheist vs Theist Pet Poll
>> # From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
>> # Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
>> # Message-ID:
<94d8a483-13cd-4aa7...@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>
>> #
>> # On Oct 2, 4:19=A0pm, SkyEyes wrote:
>> # > On Oct 1, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> # >>> Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote
>> # >
>> # >>>> I know this is probably silly
>> # >>
>> # >> only true atheists have cats and only true cats have atheists.
>> # >
>> # > Cats choose atheists
>> # >
>> # > an atheist, being a non- practitioner of religion, will not
>> # > waste her/his worship on any being *other than* the cat.
>> # >
>> # > a cat *is the closest things to a Superior Being
>> #
>> # Beautifully put. This is quotable material. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Atheists, it appears always
>>> totally deny the existence of all gods but their 'one true' god.
>>
Meow! B^D
>> A fur ball puking feline which may be superior to atheists,
>> but is worn as fur by beings with a larger brain! B^D
>
> That does not make them irreligious
Sure, they are religious, cat-puke worshippers - Lenin is the real
Atheist! B^]
fasgnadh
> Virgil wrote:
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>> Les wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:01:03 GMT, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>
>>>
>>> Faced with the clear evidence that Lenin was an atheist,
>>> one of the most important and successful in history,
>>> in atheist terms, all the atheists can do is Lie,
>>> distort, evade and insinuate weasel words:
>>>
>>>> Lenin probably thought atheism meant denying all religions but his
>>>> one communist religion.
>>>
>>> Where is your evidence Lenin 'believed in God?'
>>
>> Where is any evidence that Les ever said anything like that?
Answered already:
>>> Atheists emphatically insist that ALL it takes to be an atheist
>>> is to NOT BELIEVE IN GOD. Lenin (and Stalin and Mao, and Pol Pot, and
>>> Kim ill Fuk) did not believe in God.
>>>
>>> IF *THEY* are NOT atheists, then atheists DO NOT EXIST!!! B^]
>>
>>>
>>> There is more evidence that Trance Genocide and her BAAWA
>>> cult cronies are religious than there is that Lenin had a 'religion';
>>
>> There are any number of religions without gods,
Sure, we know Atheists worship dumb animals but here is your, or
Les's evidence that Lenin's Atheism was 'a religion'?
If his atheism is a religion, then ALL atheism is!
THE END OF ATHEISM! B^D
>>> Atheists openly admitting they worship animals:
>>
>> Where?
Right here: are you BLIND? B^D
"Atheists will not waste their worship on any being other than a cat";
>>> # Subject: Re: Atheist vs Theist Pet Poll
>>> # From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
>>> # Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
>>> # Message-ID:
>94d8a483-13cd-4aa7...@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>
>>> #
>>> # On Oct 2, 4:19=A0pm, SkyEyes wrote:
>>> # > On Oct 1, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> # >>> Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> # >
>>> # >>>> I know this is probably silly
>>> # >>
>>> # >> only true atheists have cats and only true cats have atheists.
>>> # >
>>> # > Cats choose atheists
>>> # >
>>> # > an atheist, being a non- practitioner of religion, will not
>>> # > waste her/his worship on any being *other than* the cat.
>>> # >
>>> # > a cat *is the closest things to a Superior Being
>>> #
>>> # Beautifully put. This is quotable material. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Atheists, it appears always
>>>> totally deny the existence of all gods but their 'one true' god.
>>>
Meow! B^D
>>> A fur ball puking feline which may be superior to atheists,
>>> but is worn as fur by beings with a larger brain! B^D
>>
>> That does not make them irreligious
Sure, they are religious, cat-puke worshippers - Lenin is the real
Atheist! B^]
>>> So there is No Atheism, you all believe in something,
> Odd this is the second responce fom Mr anonymouse that my newsreader
> has not seen yet.
Don't blame the newsreader;
http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
> Actually I have seen another post
More ignorant atheist opinion is not the point..
You claimed Lenin, an avowed Atheist,
has his own religion, just like Trance and the other Atheist
Bastets, worshipping their pussies..
if so, there are no real athesits!! B^D
> Sorry
Don't apologise, PRAISE GOD! B^D
He has demolished Atheism!
> I hate cats as it happens
B^D
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https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
.
fasgnadh
> Davej wrote:
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>> Davej wrote:
>>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> Les wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>>>>>
>>>>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>>>>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>>>>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>>>>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>>>>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
>>>>> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
>>>>> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
>>>>> bigot beliefs lie!
>>> >
>>> > Oh, you mean parasites like Alan Turing.
>>>
>>> No, He doesn't whine about the Majority Religious
>>> societies which provide you with everything Nth
>>> Korea (the only remaining Atheist state) wouldn't.
>>> He also doesn't post here, probably because he's dead,
>>> possibly from shame because of you Militant Atheists.
>>>
>>> I mean parasites like Virgil, Trance Gemini, and Warlord Fluffy
>>> who enjoy the benefits of a majority religious society because
>>> its just SO MUCH BETTER than any atheist shithole tyranny in history.
>>>
>>> So why do you inconsequential nobody parasites try to deflect my
>>> criticism of you towards a brilliant mathematician, who I'm on record
>>> as praising... do you really think your critics are BLIND BIGOTS
>>> just because you are?
>>>
>>> I'm not the one saying "we Kill Atheists" , I have nothing against
>>> atheists, It's the Militant Atheist parasites which DESERVE criticism
>>> fo their psycho-sexual violence that I criticise.
>>>
>>> So why do you defend them, becasue you share their hatred and
>>> bigotry toward 'Theists'
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm part of the Atheist Reform Movement, not the
>>> Militant atheists "Kill Theists" cult!
>>>
>>> My goal is to improve you, Militant atheist's goal is to 'Kill them'.
>>>
>>> Are you really so lacking in judgement that you can't see the difference.
>>
>> LOL.
So that's a YES! B^]
>> Who was Alan Turning,
You don't know? I was using the Turing Machine to make fun
of ignorant bigots like you MIA's* years ago:
> don't bother replying; he is a broken record
> no fact, argument, or logic can ever stop him
>
> His mind is broken beyond repair.
>
> Hatter
http://www.geocities.com/aus_culture_trueblue_moderator/actb_nkoty_2004.html
Geocities is closing down so here's a screen print from my archive:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6959/netkook2004.jpg
http://yfrog.com/14netkook2004j
This should have given you the clue, because you are clearly
clueless: "He also doesn't post here, probably because he's dead,
possibly from shame because of you Militant Atheists." B^p
Not knowing who Turing is makes you what?
>> complete dumbshit?
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/DunadanLord/magic8ballsaysyoureone.jpg
* MIA - Militant Ignorant Atheist
>>>> B^]
>>>>
>>>>> but should
>>>>> certainly be militant in opposing any attempts to infiltrate
>>>>> their beliefs into our lives.
>>>>
>>>> Then go to Nth Korea where they persecute and
>>>> kill anyone who dissents from atheist dogma.. the ONLY
>>>> atheist state where tyranny ensures you wont be infected by the
>>>> Human rights of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of belief.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Christians are doing a far better job at driving people away
>>>>
>>>> Clearly not.. Nth Korea beckons and you are STILL HERE
>>>>
>>>> Every atheists actions betray his lies.
>>>>
>>>> Atheists have no desire to go to an atheist state...
>>>>
>>>> Every one that has ever existed has been a SHITHOLE..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need Theists, they provide the world in which you ineffectual,
>>>> hate filled Militant Atheist parasites can exist.
> It is fagnads,
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> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
> # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
> #
> # We kill theists and shit down their throats and
> # not in a girly way.
>
> Suffering from IDD (Irony Deficit Disorder), Fluffy
> complained that REPORTING WHAT HE SAID, VERBATIM,
> was 'abuse'.. and it was making him very very sad,
> and could someone please stop them doing it!
>
> # From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
> # Subject: Re: Atheist Kooks: Sociopath shifts blame to others
> # for their mistakes Re: A.A. Steve Knight checking in to Bellevue
> # Message-ID: <1jivb5dparaegkqht...@4ax.com>
> # Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:32:49 -0700
> #
> # FAQ pages for alt.atheism could land you in court.
> #
> # I reported you to Google abuse
> # Warlord Steve
> # BAAWA
# Atheism is the default position.
Those who postulate a "god" have the duty to (1) define their god in,
say, 100 words, and (2) provide some empirical evidence of its existence.
The fact that many people believe in some unseen entity called God
doesn't prove anything. Sheep go in flocks, and if you've been brainwashed
from birth with a particular concept doesn't mean it exists.
Not only doesn't the Emperor wear no clothes, but maybe the Emperor
himself don't exist.
Of course, there may be a green, bug-eyed monster, lurking behind
Phenomena (in lieu of your Old Man with a Beard), but a Monist Universe may
be all we have, and there is no "behind" at all.
Sorry, folks, but unless God suddenly appears before us, and proves he
is not the Devil in disguise, then you can pray all you like....
God is conspicuous by his absence.
Atheists don't have to prove a thing. It is the Theist who makes the
claim and must provide the proof.
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Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Sure, we know fasgnadh worships dumb animals
>
> >>> Atheists openly admitting they worship animals:
> >>
> >> Where?
>
> Right here: are you BLIND? B^D
NOt so blind that I cannot see that fasgnadh lies!!
>
> "Atheists will not waste their worship on any being other than a cat";
Which does not imply that atheists worship anything at all.
>
> Don't apologise, PRAISE GOD!\
>
> He has demolished Atheism!
Which of the many supposed gods would that be?
There are so many competing god-myths that we agnostics cannot keep
track of which ones fasgnadh is referring to and believes in.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Les wrote:
>>
>>> Virgil wrote:
>>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> Les wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:01:03 GMT, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>>>>>>>>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>>>>>>>>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Faced with the clear evidence that Lenin was an atheist,
>>>>> one of the most important and successful in history,
>>>>> in atheist terms, all the atheists can do is Lie,
>>>>> distort, evade and insinuate weasel words:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lenin probably thought atheism meant denying all
>>>>>> religions but his one communist religion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is your evidence Lenin 'believed in God?'
Lenin was a self proclaimed atheist, implementing atheist
policies, the forced indoctrination of children, the
persecution of religious, the torture and murder of believers
as preached by Steve Knight, Trance Gemini and the their Militant
Atheist stormtroopers... if an atheist like Lenin is declared
by cat worshipping Atheist Bastets of BAAWA, to be more RELIGIOUS
than they are, then their ARE NO ATHEISTS!!
Q.E.D
Which is why their tools and paid stooges resort to RACIST abuse
and ad hom
>>>> Where is any evidence that Les ever said anything like that?
>>
>> Answered already:
>>
>>>>> Atheists emphatically insist that ALL it takes to be an atheist
>>>>> is to NOT BELIEVE IN GOD. Lenin (and Stalin and Mao, and Pol
Pot, and
>>>>> Kim ill Fuk) did not believe in God.
>>>>>
>>>>> IF *THEY* are NOT atheists, then atheists DO NOT EXIST!!! B^]
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is more evidence that Trance Genocide and her BAAWA
>>>>> cult cronies are religious than there is that Lenin had a 'religion';
>>>>
>>>> There are any number of religions without gods,
>>
>> Sure, we know Atheists worship dumb animals but here is your, or
>> Les's evidence that Lenin's Atheism was 'a religion'?
>>
>> If his atheism is a religion, then ALL atheism is!
>>
>> THE END OF ATHEISM! B^D
>>
>>>>> Atheists openly admitting they worship animals:
>>>>
>>>> Where?
>>
>> Right here: are you BLIND? B^D
>>
>> "Atheists will not waste their worship on any
>> being other than a cat";
>>
They admit to worshipping cats and ONLY cats (among the
category 'beings'.. apparently they leave open the idea
of worshipping objects, like Dawkins Gospel! B^)
> Since Fasgnadh misreads even the most simple of English statements,
"We kill theists and shit down their throats" is pretty
clear, Cleetus, even for you knuckle-dragging, sloping forehead,
banjo-plukin, pig-fukin, sister raping, barnyard-animal-molesting,
rabid, redneck racist bigots:
>> perhaps he only learnt it as a second language. If he is actually
>> Australian, then he might be an Abo who spent his childhood in the
>> outback and only came to civilization in his teens.
So, being an indigenous Australian ("abo" is a term of derision only
used by the offspring of racist rednecks whose parents mated with
sheep) would in your view, equate to ignorance and lacking
the 'civilisation'(sic) that you endorse, of "killing theists and
shitting down their throats"? pfffft!
Thanks for exposing the Ugly, True face of Militant Atheism and it's
paid stooges.
You can go back to banging rocks together, you contemptible moral
defective.
The support you receive from the moral maggots in alt.atheism
is the prime cause of their decline and my success at exposing them
and cleaning their cult's NG of excrement like you!
Zadok
"Steve Hayes" <haye...@hotmail.com> wrote in message ...
> And what makes you think that ALL atheists bear responsibility for that?
Why do you even answer this nutcase??
Zadok
"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in message ...
> Last time that great scribe fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> chipped
> away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>
> > Steve Hayes wrote:
> > > fasgnadh wrote:
>
> a bunch of crap
>
> That old strawman again. Give it a rest. It has been discredited more
> times than you've had hot diners.
The best thing to do is ignore him.
He only posts his bullshit to attract attention!!
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Smiler wrote:
>>> Davej wrote:
>>>> Who was Alan Turning
>>>>
>>>
>>> You use a computer, but are ignorant of the mathematician who invented
>>> the first modern one.
>>> You are ignorant of the man who, because of this invention, probably
>>> did more than anyone else to win WW2 for us.
>>> You are too lazy to Google his name.
>>>
>>> That makes *you* a completely worthless dumbshit.
>>
>> He sure is!
>>
>>> Davej wrote:
>>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> Les wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>>>>>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>>>>>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>>>>>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>>>>>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>>>>>>
Still NO Takers. Atheists, by their actions, admit that living
in an Atheist state is worse than a hot lead enema! B^D
They are ALL hypocrites who PREFER to live in the open,
tolerant, democratis, right's based pluralist societies
with separation of church and state which the MAJORITY
RELIGIOUS society has put in place! B^}
Cadit Quaetio!
>>>>>> Strangely enough whenever this offer is made.. atheist
>>>>>> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
>>>>>> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
>>>>>> bigot beliefs lie!
>>>>>
For some reasons militant atheists decide to avoid the
clear logic by a mad-dog ad hom attack on Alan Turing!?!! 8^o
>> http://www.geocities.com/aus_culture_trueblue_moderator/actb_nkoty_2004.html
>>
>>
>> Geocities is closing down so here's a screen print from my archive:
>>
>> http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6959/netkook2004.jpg
>>
>> http://yfrog.com/14netkook2004j
>>
>> http://yfrog.com/5fturing1j
>>
>>
>> This should have given you the clue, becasue you are clearly
>>>>> # Militant Godless"
>>>>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>>>> #
>>>>> #
>>>>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>>>>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>>>>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>>>>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>>>>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>>>>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>>>>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>>>>> #
>>>>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>>>>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>
> Fasgnadh has often claimed to be agnostic but does not move to an
> agnostic state,
Name one. B^]
I already live in an 'agnostic state' one in which the
majority religious population has created a secular state,
neither atheist (all catastrophic failures) or theocracies
(like Rome, or the Holy Roman Empire, which worked but limited
freedom), but which affords the same rights to believers and
non believers alike.
All the prosperous nations have adopted this approach,
Why would I leave one of these fantastic majority
religious societies for some atheist totalitarian tyranny..
The Question is, why do Atheists choose to live in majority
religious modenrn states as well!??
None of you pathtic hypocrites EVER answer the question..
Contrast that with how quickly I was able to answer your stupid
attempt to reverse my question..
People can now see how false your position is. B^]
Thanks for playing.. NEXT ATHEIST HYPOCRITE .. please! B^]
teh same rights
> so why should any atheist
> not follow his example and not move at all?
Because this Government is an agnostic one. It doesn't discriminate
against believers or non believers, and that's what I support.
But atheists believe in, and practice, persecution of believers,
but they are afraid to live among other atheists because they know,
in their hearts, how fucked up and dangerous they are;
Subject: Trance Gemini Signs up to Militant Atheism to "Kill Theists"
8^o was Re: Atheism Was Responsible For The Crimes Of Communism
From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
alt.religion.christian,alt.religion,alt.politics.republicans,
alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,alt.agnosticism
Message-ID: <6MSxm.45092$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:21:06 GMT
Trance Gemini wrote:
> There is no such thing as "militant" atheists
Trance lies again:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
No wonder Atheists can't believe in God, even when presented
with irrefutable proof of Militant Atheism, they don't believe in it,
either! B^D
But being a deceptive Militant Atheist Trance is pretending to be
a Newbie recruit (their ONLY ONE ;-) when in fact she is a
Senior Commissar for Propaganda and Deception in MIA;
>> There is no such thing as a "militant atheist".
Trance is a Militant Atheist who pretended to be a Newbie
Recruit to BAAWA so she could kill theists and finally
shit down something.. (she has been so full of shit for
so many years she threatened to EXPLODE! )
# From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: A.A. Steve Knight checking in
# Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:24:27 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<24978829-3dd7-49ff...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
#
# On Sep 23, 11:58=A0pm, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Trance Gemini
#> <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
#>> Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
#>>
#>>> I will be re-instating the BAAWA website soon.
#>>>
#>>> Warlord Steve
#>>> BAAWA
#>
#>> Hi Steve,
#>
#>> I'm new here (relatively speaking) so forgive my
#>> ignorance but what's a BAAWA?
Trance, (whose ignorance is legendary), had actually
been posting since Jan 09, pretended to be an innocent Newbie
so that Warlord Fluffy can 'explain' what she already knows
about BAWAA, to her and thus preach to the intensely
uninterested Newsgroup ! B^D
It is a recruitment drive, and as NO ONE ELSE was interested
in their CHARADE, Trance and Fluffy had to PUT ON A PROPAGANDA
SET PIECE..
It's a Dorothy Dix question, a setup by Atheists playing
their dull, witless, deceptive SCRIPT. They delude no
one but themselves.
#> BAAWA means 'Bad Assed Atheist With Attitude'. Anyone can be BAAWA.
#> However, being a Knight of BAAWA requires the benevolence of the
#> Warlord. Me. You must prove your prowess in written carnage of a
#> theist pig. The web site will be posted soon and you can go there to
#> see the details.
#
# Ah Thank You, Oh Lord (er Knight, er Sir....)
#
# I hope to qualify for a Knightess position ...
#
# <polishes her sword slowly and gleefully - finally some *real* fun>
Trance, who claims there are no Militant Atheists, signs up
for the 'carnage of a theist pig'.
Militant atheism is a deceptive cult for hate-filled Militant
Atheists with nothing better to do in life than DESPISE
people for not sharing the Atheist non-belief in something or other.
Trance is the Alpha male in the alt.atheism pack, pretending
to be the willing newbie in a Propaganda Piece by MIA.
Militant Idiot Atheists.
> Similarly why does not fasgnadh request all theists move to totally
> theist states?
Because it is the majority theists in our secular democracies
who CHOSE to set them up as secular democracies, because that's what
they want.
Every time the atheists had the numbers to make a choice.. they set up
totalitarian shitholes that terrorised, tortured and murdered over
60,000,000 people
You lack of logic, intelligence, reason, historical knowledge,
honesty and even common sense and decency makes it a pleasure
to kick you arse every time you post.
http://www.superdairyboy.com/pictures/rocket_usa/bushbig.jpg
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
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https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
,.
Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology
clueless Universities brainwashed Bougredanes ?
RUDD A IS A TRAITOR INDEED CAUTIONING THE PORT ARTHUR HOLOCAUST
WHERE 100 GOOD AUSTRALIAN WERE FRAMED BY THEIR OWN HOWARD TRAITOR's
GOVT & MASS MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD INDEED A BULLET IN THE HEAD !!!
Who cares about those gesticulating Political Pawns without Substance,
Honour, and Fortitude ....Just clown performing on the Political
Scene some act which they have told to play by occult Powers pulling
the strings behind the scene !
Unfortunately for those Cretins Nature Laws does not suffer exception
& is completely impervious to those Criminals ' agenda ... It will
catch them by surprise indeed & completely unprepared
With kind regards to all
Steve Hayes
Well, I tried - once.
Since he was unable to give a coherent reply, I'll try no more.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
B J Foster
>
> With kind regards to all
Best wishes to you too, JP
Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology
> > ~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
Thank you Brian. I trust you are well.
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*> [hopefully] be used to build a new "Super Canal" to move water from
the
*>
*> state's north-west, to Perth !
*>
*> And don't give me any of that bunk about evaporation ! The "Super
Canal"
*> will flow ONLY during the hours of darkness, and on cloudy days.
*>
*> Regards
*>
*> Clive
Good, Clive !
At least some bloke with common sense & Colin Barnett with his super
idiocy has no way to counter & bury his & his mates ' Collective
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Why, do those cunts by the way believe that stopping smoking will end
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Parasites ??? Of course not, and if so they would not be allowed to do
so indeed !
CANCER IS SUCH A JUICY BUSINESS FOR THE CANCER VERMINES CASHING ON IT
INDEED ! .. and so are the other good dizeazezzz bringing an unending
flow of cash to the lecherous bed side mannered Quacks ... you name
any of them ! ...all excellent !
Cancer can be cured in 2 days flat according to my research &
discoveries but such advance in intelligence of both the cause, the
immediate remedies as well the obvious prevention of such WELL
DEZERVED DIZEAZEZ is something beyond the scope of those Universities
brainwashed degrees loaded ( degrees in blindness) that any generous
advance & disclosure of such superior mind ' s approach would be
received by the Mining & Political Criminals running affairs down
under, with the utmost contempt ! They will just grab it and run away
without a thanks,considering indeed, those sterile cunts, that
something so obvious DOES NOT DESERVE GRATITUDE NOR RECOGNITION !
Just as simple as finding the Great Sandy Desert 3 mines presently
discovered for a generation soon & putting as well a Town on the map :
Telfer Mine (named after a little balless cunt who never deserved
it ... I went to meet that cunt indeed)
Now if you see Barnett down at the Perth Yatching Club along with his
mate Sandy Knox, Gallop & Carpenter + all that Antipodean Convict
Rabble, just tell him I am going to send him a letter of
Congratulations soon .... Congratulations indeed extended to his own
West Australia Whorehouse aka Parliament for that longest stretch of
Corruption, Embezzlement, Forfeiture & TREACHERY in the whole of
Australia History ! Yep soon turning final for that last leg & last
year of a 40 YEARS STANDING MOST VILLAINOUS COLLECTIVE CRIME UPON
AUSTRALIA GREATEST MINING PIONEER OF ALL TIMES !
Congratulations to you as well for your awareness & the irony quite
appropriate in referring to Burnett 's pet dream ....
With best regards
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
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https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
. . .
raven1
>In article <6s1ym.45237$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Les wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>> > to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>>
>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>
>When fasgnadh will finance the passage of all Catholics to a Catholic
>state and all Moslems to a Moslem state and all Hindus to a Hindu state
>and all Lutherans o a Lutheran state and all fundies to a fundie state,
>etc., there will be no need for atheists to move, as they, and the
>agnostics, will be the only ones left.
Unfortunately, that will leave us still stuck with agnostic Fasgnadh.
Just in passing, I wonder if he's also "agnostic" about leprechauns or
elves.
duke
An agnostic rejects the evidence as being convincing. There is no evidence of
the existence of a lep or an elve.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Smiler
> Thanks for warning me.. as you haven't answered the question,
> obviously can't refute a single fact in my post and plan to
> give us the 'same old spiel' I have more important
> matters to attend to.. putting the garbage out in the REAL
> World, just like I do in alt.atheism..
>
Thanks for admitting that you put out garbage in a.a., but we've known that
since you first came here.
Your reply will be made up of snippets of the above to dishonestly change
the meaning of what I wrote.
You cannot tell the truth, it's beyond your capabilities.
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
fasgnadh
STILL NO TAKERS!
>> Then Fasgnadh, by refusing to move to a theist state admits that
Why would an agnostic, as I am, want to move to a theist state
any more than I would want to move to an Atheist state?
I, like all you atheists, want ot live in a MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
democratic nation! B^]
We all know why! B^]
The IDIOTIC Atheist argument has collapsed!
> living in a theist state is worse than a hot lead enema!
If you mean a theocracy, perhaps so,, you haven't provided
any evidence of anything as horrific as Atheist shitoles..
BUT YOU MISS THE POINT.
Theists, like agnostics, HAVE A CHOICE
Atheist regimes.. EVERY ONE OF WHICH IS A TYRANNY!
Theocracies or
Majority Theist societies which are pluralist, open,
democratic, FREE and Human Rights based.
Theists have produced ALL of those progressive societies,
and a few theocracies, mostly in the PAST, Atheism has produced
NOTHING BUT TYRANNIES.. there IS NO CHOICE of a 'progressive
Atheist state.. or a democratic Atheist state.. it's an OXYMORON!!
B^]
As you feel the iron grip of the Jaws Logic squeezing the life out
of atheisms last, desperate, irrational squirming-on-a-hook,
the pointy barb of Truth, you know that every word from your lying
mouth just BURIES Atheism DEEPER! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
You atheist parasites live in a progressive majority RELIGIOUS
society, they have created YOUR FREEDOM, building a SECULAR
state which ensures a wise separation between church and state.
How Brilliant that was, compared to the Atheist regimes who
all tried to BRUTALLY ERADICATE God from human society!!
That is the ISSUE.. Godless Atheism has ALWAYS PERISHED, taking
millions of people with it!!!! 8^o
The modern religious offer EVEN THE ATHEIST PARASITES the protection
of the free democratic society THEY HAVE BUILT.
Even the Atheists don't want to live in any of the shitholes that
ATHEISM has built, where freedom and prosperity are DESTROYED
and the dead piled up in massive heaps.
Atheism is DEFUNCT! Reality proves it! B^]
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Smiler wrote:
>>> Davej wrote:
>>>> Who was Alan Turning
>>>>
>>>
>>> You use a computer, but are ignorant of the mathematician who invented
>>> the first modern one.
>>> You are ignorant of the man who, because of this invention, probably
>>> did more than anyone else to win WW2 for us.
>>> You are too lazy to Google his name.
>>>
>>> That makes *you* a completely worthless dumbshit.
>>
>>
>> He sure is!
>>
>>
>>
>> > Davej wrote:
>> >> fasgnadh wrote:
>> >>> Les wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>> >>>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>> >>>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>> >>>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>> >>>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>> >>>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> HYPOCRITES suddenly don't seem to want to put their ACTIONS
>> >>>> where their hypocritical, self-contradictory, hate-filled
>> >>>> bigot beliefs lie!
>> >>>
> no such thing as "the" Turing machine, there are infinitely many
> different ones.
Anyone knowing anything about the Turing Machine would
know that there are PRECISELY NONE of them in existence,
that's why I was making FUN of people using the
theoretical concept.
And am still doing so, it seems! B^]
Virgil is an Inverse Turing Machine, put him behind a screen
and let humans interact and they would unanimously declare
that it was a crude Bot, not merely lacking intelligence
but ANY signs of sentient life.
>> >>> # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant
>> Godless"
>> >>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>> >>> #
>> >>> #
>> >>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>> >>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>> >>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>> >>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>> >>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>> >>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>> >>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>> >>> #
>> >>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>> >>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
--
Judicial Corruption Australia
Judicial Corruption Australia
>Revolution is nigh
Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html
..
-----------------------------------------
fasgnadh
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:41:25 -0600, Virgil <Vir...@agnostic.com>
>>>>>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>>>>>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>>>>>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>>>>>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>>>>>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>>>>>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>>>>>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>>>>>> #
>>>>>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>>>>>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>>
>>
>> agnostic state,
B^D What Idiocy you babble, the MAJORITY RELIGIOUS SOCIETY in which
I live IS AN AGNOSTIC STATE!!! B^D
It has all the social benefits of a society infused with Spiritual
values, the generous charities, the religious compassion, the social
justice, the tolerance and welcoming of the poor and disposessed,
(in contrast to the brutal atheist tyrannies, which PRODUCE poverty
misery and despair) PLUS a rational theist majority who implemented
separation of church and state... an AGNOSTIC solution DENYING power
to Absolutest Atheists or Absolutest Theists!
Brilliant, they must have been inspired by God to get it SO RIGHT!!!
The Best of agnostic rationality in the POLITICAL SPHERE, the BEST
of Theism in the social sphere, and as usual nothign from Atheism
because IT HAS NO *BEST* TO OFFER! B^D B^D B^D
>> so why should any atheist not follow his example and not move at all?
It makes sense if you accept my argument that predominately Theist
societies are the most progressive, free, prosperous, dynamic,
open, pluralist, tolerant nations on earth and every atheist
regime has been a massively deadly Cluster Fuck!! B^D
And, BY YOUR ACTIONS, you and every atheist CONCEDE THAT!
>> Similarly why does not fasgnadh request all theists move to totally
>> theist states?
Theists have choice, Majority Theist societies with rational separation
of Church and State, democracy, progress, human rights, prosperity,
freedom (all the things no atheist regime offers) or a theocracy which
may be nearly as bad as EVERY ATHEIST REGIME IS.
Want it again.. Theists have CHOICE.. Most of their societies are
open, democratic, free and progressive..
Athwsits have no choice, there are no open, democratic, free and
progressive ATHEIST states.. if atheist HYPOCRITES want those things
that MOST THEIST societies produce, and NO ATHEIST society can produce..
then they have to concede the ABJECT FAILURE of atheist BULLSHIT, LIES
AND DECEPTION, and accept the REALITY of Theist Truth.
Suck it up, you poor LOSERS! B^D
Why are you struggling with what EVERYONE in the world has CLEARLY
GRASPED.. the reason why 300,000,000 ex-atheists have embraced
religion in China ALONE! B^]
>> talents at logic are so corrupt
Virgil's 'logic' is simply NON-EXISTANT! B^D
> His problem is that major concepts such as 'freedom of speech',
> freedom of conscience' and toleration are totally beyond his
> understanding.
All atheists share that deficiency with Virgil
> Like all people who fear and hate things they do not
> understand he opposed these things.
Sure, Militant Atheist hatred OPENLY oppose all Good things;
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
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# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
http://memegenerator.net/Instances/899/Insanity-Wolf-RIP-OFF-YOUR-HEAD-SHIT-DOWN-YOUR-THROAT.jpg
> As I am sure you know we are perfectly happy to leave Christians
No you aren't, you cling like leeches, parasitic encrustations
on the Great and Enduring Civilisations built by those religious
communities.. although I'm sure they would be happy if you
WOULD leave them and go back to Atheist Nth Korea where you
SHIT DOWN EACH OTHERS THROATS! B^]
> What is it about peace, toleration and prosperity that they
> seem to hate so much?
Unlike religious doctrines, peace, tolerance and prosperity
play no part in atheist dogma.. If you Kill you breach
the law of every major world religion's teachings.. but
NOTHING in atheism forbids it! 8^o
Hence, atheist regimes had no restraint o the depth of
depravity to which they sank.
History reveals the Ugly Truth about Atheism.
It is discredited, defunct and disintegrating.
Alt.atheism chronicles it's decline! ;-)
> Les Hellawell
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Smiler wrote:
>>> Davej wrote:
>>>> Who was Alan Turning
>>>>
>>>
>>> You use a computer, but are ignorant of the mathematician who invented
>>> the first modern one.
>>> You are ignorant of the man who, because of this invention, probably
>>> did more than anyone else to win WW2 for us.
>>> You are too lazy to Google his name.
>>>
>>> That makes *you* a completely worthless dumbshit.
>>
>>
>> He sure is!
Slimer posted to Davj, none of them can lay a glove on me,
and Virgil has no rational argument, so he resorts to FORGING
a StrawMan of Lies and slander, trying to make it look like the
criticism was directed to me:
# > In article <mXWzm.46564$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
# > fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
# >
# >> Smiler wrote:
# >>> Fasgnadh wrote:
# >>>> Who was Alan Turning
# >>>>
# >>> You use a computer, but are ignorant of the mathematician
# >>> who invented the first modern one.
# >>>
# >>> You are ignorant of the man who, because of this
# >>> invention, probably did more than anyone
# >>> else to win WW2 for us.
# >>> You are too lazy to Google his name.
# >>>
# >>> That makes fasgnadh a completely worthless dumbshit.
# >>
# >> He sure is!
# >
# >
# > Fasgnadh finally admits
Virgil is a perpetual forger and liar, here he shows he will even
fraudulently forge text attributed to his fellow atheist, Slimer.
Will Slimer protest Virgiuls dishonesty and total lack of integrity?
No, neither will ANY ATHEIST, because they are ALL lying atheist moral
defectives.
>> >>> # "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant
>> Godless"
>> >>> # Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>> >>> #
>> >>> #
>> >>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>> >>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
>> >>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>> >>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>> >>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>> >>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>> >>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>> >>> #
>> >>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>> >>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
--
Judicial Corruption Australia
fasgnadh
> advantages of theism
The advantages of Theism are so OBVIOUS that even the ATHEISTS
and their stooges like you, CHOOSE to live in MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
SOCIETIES.. no one EVER chooses to live in an atheist State!
Q.E.D.
> and denigrate non-theism so viciously.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAHA
We Agnostics ARE non-theists, you dimwit, and as the ARIS research
shows, we are a LARGER group than Atheists AND we don't want to have a
THING to do with them! I don't attack agnostics, Jedi, New Age
Crystal healers, humanists or other non-theists, as all my posts show, I
attack the tiny, but despicable, Militant Atheists!
You are such an idiot, it's embarrassing to keep humiliating you like
this, rubbing your nose in your illogic and idiocy!
>> I, like all you atheists, want to live in a MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
>> democratic nation! B^]
>>
>
> agnostics,
> do NOT want to live in
> majority religious nations,
The facts show otherwise.. none of us genuine agnostics want
to leave these free democratic, Majority religious societies,
which offer us freedom to believe or not believe, and go live in
an atheist shithole, where no one has ANY freedoms.. not even
atheist TOOLS, like you! B^]
Your actions PROVE that your words are LIES! B^]
Q.E.D.
>> We all know why! B^]
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense"
- Stalin
E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;
The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
-John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
> Where the state has most power over religion,
> one finds evil.
The Atheist regimes PROVE that!
>> The IDIOTIC Atheist argument has collapsed!
>>
>>> living in a theist state is worse than a hot lead enema!
>>
>> If you mean a theocracy, perhaps so,, you haven't provided
>> any evidence of anything as horrific as Atheist shitoles..
>>
>> BUT YOU MISS THE POINT.
>>
>> Theists, like agnostics, HAVE A CHOICE
>>
>> Atheist regimes.. EVERY ONE OF WHICH IS A TYRANNY!
>>
>> Theocracies OR
> What everyone should object to is living in a state which
> dictates what one may believe.
That's EVERY Atheist regime: the USSR, Maoist China,
Pol Pots Cambodia, and Nth Korea... all TOTAl failures!!
contrast that to MAJORITY RELIGIOUS USA, Australia, Sweden, Norway,
France, Germany, the UK, Indonesia, India..
even China has prospered since the Communist leadership
changed their constitution and abandoned Militant Atheism! 8^o
"With the gradual liberalisation that developed with
Deng Xiaoping's open door reforms, religion was no
longer proscribed. In 1982, the constitution was
amended to allow Chinese people considerable freedom
of religion."
http://cbbc.org/china_guide/religion.html
"At the first world Buddhism forum in East China's Zhejiang
Province last year, the Chinese government acknowledged
the active role religion plays in building a harmonious society."
"For example, religious beliefs have helped cut down crime
to a large extent,"
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
"religion has been enjoying a resurgence in China over the
past 20 years, as Communist Party disapproval has eased"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm
"Religious believers thrice the estimate
By Wu Jiao (China Daily)
"A survey has found that the number of religious believers
is three times bigger than the official estimate.
The poll of about 4,500 people, conducted by professors Tong
Shijun and Liu Zhongyu of Shanghai-based East China Normal
University from 2005 till recently, found that 31.4 percent
of Chinese aged 16 and above or about 300 million are religious."
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
Incredible! in just a few short years the new converts from
atheism In JUST ONE COUNTRY, far outnumber the slow increase
in tiny atheist numbers in the rest of the WORLD! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA
# Subject: Re: US religious now at 85% - It's GOD in a LANDSLIDE!!!
# -Atheists wallow at 2.3% worldwide, 0.7% in the USA! -a pitiful
# fraction of the minority of non-believers! B^D
#
# From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
# Newsgroups:
# alt.atheism,aus.religion,alt.religion,aus.politics,
# alt.politics.republicans, alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
# Message-ID: <8QNtl.26734$cu.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:07:32 GMT
#
# American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
#
# "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
#
# 2001 2008
#
# Religious 167,254,000 (80%) 182,198,000 (80%)
#
# Agnostics 991,000 (0.5%) 1,985,000 (0.9%)
#
# Atheists 902,000 (0.4%) 1,621,000 (0.7%)
#
#
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAA!
#
#
# 0.7% of Americans!! B^D 2.3% worldwide!!! B^D
#
# 'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT = ATHEIST
#
# EVEN THE AGNOSTICS BEAT YOU!!! **AND** they grew FASTER!!!! B^D
fasgnadh
> thought experiments exist.
so you admit they are Theoretical Concepts, just like I told you.. B^]
If you claim THEY EXIST, other than as concepts.. then SO DOES GOD!
Nice Own Goal!
Cadit Quaetio! B^]
>> And am still doing so, it seems! B^]
>>
Snigger! B^]
Smiler
Just as there is no evidence for the existence of your imaginary gods
Les
wrote:
I am suprised they reject leprehauns and elves when they seem to
like inventing imaginary creatures like them. Angels, devils, gods,
Unicorns, sky pixies and such like. Maybe their imaginations are a
bit limited and they can only cope with a limited set?
Les Hellawell
fasgnadh
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:35:55 +0100, "Smiler" <Smi...@joe.king.com>
> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:19:41 -0400, raven1
>>> <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <6s1ym.45237$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>>>>> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Les wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My view is that the best way to deal with Christ-insanity is
>>>>>>> to simply turn our back on them and walk away
So why don't you whining fucks JUST DO IT!
Leave the horrors of a majority religious society with it's fast food,
fast cars and fast women and go live in Atheist Nth Korea! B^D
>>>>>> I have offered MANY times to pass the hat around so that
>>>>>> any atheist who is not a hypocrite could do precisely that,
>>>>>> walk away from the cosy, protective Majority Religious
>>>>>> society whose bounty you parasites leech off, and go an live
>>>>>> in the Atheist Paradise of North Korea.
>>>>> When fasgnadh will finance the passage of all Catholics to a
>>>>> Catholic state and all Moslems to a Moslem state and all Hindus to
>>>>> a Hindu state and all Lutherans o a Lutheran state and all fundies
>>>>> to a fundie state, etc., there will be no need for atheists to
>>>>> move, as they, and the agnostics, will be the only ones left.
Why is Virgil, clearly a leading atheist intellektural, B^D and as
thick as pigshit suggesting that all those people who AREN'T whining
that they should just 'Walk Away' like the atheists are, should go
anywhere at all.
They are the majority,religious, and have created a free open and
democratic society that you clearly don't like .. so stop your pathetic
whining and just fuck off somewhere where you can create an atheist
Utopia.. just like the other ones.. The USSR, Mao's China, Pol Pots
Genocide, or Nth Korea....
I mean we have all seen what you Godless Heathens can do when you put
your minds to something other than SITTING ON YOUR FAT ARSES WHINING
about the majority religious society you parasitically LEECH off! B^D
Go to Pyong Yang and impress us with ... whatever! B^D
>>>> Unfortunately, that will leave us still stuck with agnostic Fasgnadh.
>>>> Just in passing, I wonder if he's also "agnostic" about leprechauns
>>>> or elves.
You clearly need to get a life. B^p
I never give you boring dimwits a thought,
but you are all constantly talking ABOUT me,
(none of you dare DEBATE ME, you have seen the floor
of alt.atheism littered with the bones and viscera of atheists
who tried that! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA! )
>>> An agnostic rejects the evidence as being convincing.
WTF?? An agnostic rejects the LACK OF EVIDENCE as UNCONVINCING!
Jebus H. Cripes, I thought the atheists were DUMBER than DOGSHIT! B^]
>>> There is no
>>> evidence of the existence of a lep or an elve.
Can you spell Elf?
There is no evidence that you have a FUNCTIONING BRAIN!
So I am 'agnostic' about it as well.
Does that help this coterie of kooks decide if I am
agnostic about 'elves'? B^]
>> Just as there is no evidence
After watching atheists derisively demolish the Teapot
Atheist Blog that Trance Geminini and the rest of you
seriously took to be 'factual data' (snigger) I can't
help but laugh whenever an atheist uses the word 'evidence'
B^D
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# On Oct 4, 12:25=A0pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
# >
# > The fact is, that more people have died due to
# > atheist movement, than all religions combined.
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# Which I have refuted previously with the following source:
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#http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/2008/06/anonymous-wanted-body-count-total-so-he.html
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# A source which, when doing the body count of each,
Pulled every figure from Teapot Bloggers ARSE, you stupid Atheist
CRETIN! B^]
# From: Kilmir <kil...@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.abortion,alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian,
# soc.women,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
# Subject: Re: Atheists Repudiate Trance Gemini's ONLY cited resource
# on the Atheist Death Toll !
# Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:07:01 -0700 (PDT)
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# > # "What killed 60,000,000 in the last 100 years"
# > # - ATHEIST REGIMES DID IT! 8^o
#http://teapotatheism.blogspot.com/2008/06/anonymous-wanted-body-count-total-so-he.html
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# disingenuous
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# the whole point of that post was to show you the
# meaninglessness of counts like those.
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# It was just a blog post
#
# some napkin counting to show the uselessness of
# numbers like those.
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#
# Kilmir
It sure fooled Trance.. and EVERY Atheist who revelled in it's
bogus bullshit! B^D
> I am suprised they reject leprehauns and elves when they seem to
> like inventing imaginary creatures like them.
The only infants I see babbling incoherently about wee beasties
are you fuckwits! B^0
> Angels, devils, gods,
> Unicorns, sky pixies and such like.
# "it makes utterly no difference which goddesses or gods
# you believe in, as long as you have some...
# Me, I'd suggest Bastet." - Cary Kittrell
#
# (has he misspelled 'Kitten'? ;-)
Jung was right, you are all neurotic and delusional.
"Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
he had lost that which the living religions of every age
have given their followers, and none of them has really
been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."
-Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul
> Maybe their imaginations are a
> bit limited and they can only cope with a limited set?
My 'limited set' is called reality, you babbling loonies should try it!
>
> Les Hellawell
> Greetings from:
> YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
Chuff off ya daft numpty!
Judicial Corruption Australia
(French, Hayne, Gummow, Crennan), Senate Constitution and Legal
Affairs Committee (Barnett and Crossin)
Dear Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka,
I believe that we have had this discussion previously:
1. There is NO doubt that the framers of the Constitution wanted to
safeguard freedom, rule of law, justice and the will of the people.
2. Your "interpretation" is that the framers wanted it ALL for the
Whiteman; I DO NOT DISAGREE.
My contention is that point 1 must be maintained whilst point 2 should
be interpreted as "for better governance" s51(xxvi).
Point 1 makes for civilised society whilst point 2, drives us back to
savages; "for better governance" is another discretionary clause which
can easily be abused (as in the NT intervention, i will get to later)
With due respect sir, your reading of the"intentions" of the framers
of the Constitution is an anachronism: the Constitution by itself does
NOT discriminate based on RACE in an adverse way.
If a referendum on multiculturalism (for argument sakes) were to take
place, chances are the idiots would vote to get rid of it. But here is
what would happen, the International Community would ostracise
Australia, and the Chinese would buy mineral ore from South America,
leaving Australia with dirt ! Where would the Lucky Country be without
the global community.
Global Community means global laws: unlike the US, Australia has not
only signed UN human rights treaties, ICCPR and ICERD, inter alia,
they also signed up to the International Criminal Court's Rome
Statutes. (Whiteman and treaty DONOT go together to well)
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this with the will of the
Australian people, as in a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
Has the Commonwealth of Australia done all this in order to only help
White Australia, through a referendum? Thats NOT my problem.
My ONLY concern is with the rule of law and justice:
After having signed the UN Human Rights Treaties, the Commonwealth
enacted 2 local laws to implement the 2 treaties, namely
1. Race Discrimination Act 1975
2. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986; inter alia
The Art of Perverting Justice, & of Racism by White Australia:
Documentary
How the Australian judiciary and the Australian High Court conspire to
pervert justice, dispense with the rule of law, and using the police
to harass and victimise australians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ
Well you can say those laws discriminate based on race but is
"discrimination" the correct term when the effect is positive.
Is the law discriminatory for the jewish "people" if it sends people
to jail for denying the existence of the Holocaust?
You, sir, need to define the term "discriminate", if not "race".
We challenged the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs Committee
(chaired by Barnett and Crossin) to secede from the 2 UN Human Rights,
and they have refused. They have NOT enacted any "discriminatory"
laws, they just renamed the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity
Commission Act 1986 to the Australian Human Rights Act 1986, with the
intention of removing the "Equal Opportunity" part so that their
corrupt commission and judges can apply the Act in an arbitrary way,
ie sending people to jail for standing up for freedom of speech in
denying the existence of the Holocaust.
The Commission and the Judges dont have discretionary powers at all,
they must comply with the two UN Human Rights Treaties as enshrined
"discriminatorily" by the 2+ local laws RDA1975 and HREOCA1986.
We are not interested in playing or participating in the Whiteman's
game of "Judicial Bullshit" (TM) as you seem to be doing; what we ask
is for the rule of law to upheld, and not having the legal goalpost
continuously being moved !
M142 of 2007 Pham vs French & ors, is about a high court judge (Hayne
J) running the case for an absent respondent; where in the
Constitution does it say a judge can run a case for any persons before
the court? ICCPR 14.1 enforces an independent and impartial judiciary.
Not only that but Hayne J modified the Writ of Mandamus into a Writ of
ceratori, without our authorisation. Where in Constitution, does it
say a judge can modify the frame of reference of the court
application?
The French we are talking about is none other than our current Chief
Justice of the High Court, Robert Shenton French. Kevin Rudd knew
about a Application for Mandamus against French J, and yet made him
the Chief Justice. Where is the separation of powers of executive and
judiciary as enshrine in the Constitution?
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en
Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en
Senate.Enquiries.update. 31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
The Racist Hypocrites are not enacting "discriminatory" laws, they are
applying Human Rights laws discriminatorily based on which of their
friends they can save.
eg. they slander the Indigenous people with child abuse (which occurs
in all cultures), got their mates in the High Court to suspend the
RDA1975 arbitrarily, enacted Marshall Law in the NT, just so they can
set up Nuclear dumps.
Can you not see abuse of the Constitution without relying on an
incorrect reading of the s51 (XXVI) ?
Look up case Pham vs COMCARE and read the decision of Senior Member
John Handley, and see the abuse of the Evidence Act, in the AAT
jurisdiction. John Handley abuses facts (fabricating facts, and
evidence) so that Appeals cannot brought on facts (one of the worst
case of conspiracy to pervert justice by the Australia Judiciary); we
brought it on judicial bias which their corrupt judges including
French decide to do extra-judicial fudging of the book.
Leave to Appeals is the worst abuse of discretionary powers in
Australian Judicature, is it permissible in the Constitution; it will
be tested in the High Court.
These judges are corrupt and useless; whenever they do not have legal
responses they then install "deputy" registars and prothonotary to
deal with questions of law (Gummow and Crennan, Byrne JJ); Does the
Constitution allow these administrative officers to act as a judicial
officers?
As a matter of fact: are Australian Judges even appointed legally by
order of the Privy Council and the Queen, through your precious
Constitution? If NOT then the Australian "judiciary" is acting
extra-judicial and ultra vires (a term i have introduced to you, and
glad to see you using).
Anyone charged with sedition or terrorism, should challenge the
validity of the judges or just use a defense of Citizen's Arrest of
corrupt judicial officers and government officials.
If i am incorrect about any of this, feel free to enlighten me: I will
test it out in the court of law in case
VID 91/2009 Pham vs DEWR
on the 26th October 2009 @ 10:00 am
6th Floor (?)
Owen Dixon Commonwealth Law Courts Building
305 William Street
Melbourne VIC 3000
Telephone (03) 8600 3333
This case was presented to the Senate Constitution and Legal Affairs
and they decided to sweep it under the carpet;
Inquiry into Australia�s Judicial System and the Role of Judges
Inquiry into Access to Justice
They haven't enacted any discriminatory laws, the Racist Hypocrites
want their cake and eat it as well, by "acting" discriminatorily in
excluding ethnics from having a say in those 2 INQUIRIES, in carrying
out their duties as law makers for the "better governance" of
Australia under the Constitution and the RAD1975 and HREOAC1986.
This case is once again from John Handley, Senior Member AAT, abusing
discretionary powers which he doesnt have, abuse the Evidence Act,
with the hope not to have an Appeals heard on facts, perverting
justice and fabricating evidence, and of course apprehended bias.
Come see your Constitution in action and whether the Rule of Law is
dead in Australia.
cheers
PHAM
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Mr Gerrit H. Schorel-Hlavka
<inspecto...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Chas,
I read your reference to Pham v French and you comment about
racism but what I found was;
Pham v French & Ors [2008] HCATrans 3 (24 January 2008)
QUOTE
HIS HONOUR: The Racial Discrimination Act makes quite plain that
racial discrimination is unlawful.
END QUOTE
.
It should be understood however that the federal Parliament has no
powers to override the constitution and s.51(xxvi) specifically
provides that the Commonwealth can enact special laws against any race
and so can discriminate!
As such, in that regard also racism is constitutionally
permissible (even so I oppose this personally) and any legislation
purporting otherwise is ULTRA VIRES.
Hence, the federal parliament can enact any legislation against
any specific race and is entitled to do so.
.
What however is the problem is that a special legislation against
a race can only be discriminatory against that race subjected to this
legislation and must be applied to all people of that race.
.
The 1967 referendum in regard of s.51(xxvi() was grossly deceptive
in that it failed to inform electros and so also Aboriginals of the
true meaning of this section and how it�s amended format could be used
against Aboriginals.
.
As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I am well aware of the expressed intentions
of the Framers of the Constitution�s intention that the Commonwealth
is prohibited to enact any race legislation against the general
community.
While the High court of Australia claimed that the Racial
Discrimination Act is not enacted within s.51(xxvi) but within
external powers the Framers of the Constitution made clear that any
legislative powers within �external powers� were and could only be
derived of legislative powers already provided in the constitution. As
such, the commonwealth could not for example make some treaty about
education with a foreign country and then claim it now has legislative
powers to deal with education because it is not in principle a
legislative powers that was provided to the Commonwealth. The
legislative powers of the Racial discrimination Act cannot eventuate
merely because the commonwealth fancy to make some treaty with
whomever because of that principle were adopted then there was
absolutely no need for the Framers of the Constitution to provide
specific legislative powers within s.51 and s52 because all it needed
to do was to give it original powers in all matters.
.
The Framers of the Constitution for example specifically stated
that �environment� was to remain State legislative powers. Hence,
�external powers� cannot override the limitations and cannot by some
backdoor manner provide the Commonwealth with legislative powers it
was specifically denied by the Framers of the constitution.
.
Another example is that the Commonwealth has no legislative powers
to determine the nationality of a person born within the Commonwealth
of Australia as none of the s.51 subsections permit for this. The
Commonwealth can naturalise aliens but again you find no legislative
powers to determine the nationality of any child born within the
commonwealth of Australia as they are by the legal principles embedded
in the Constitution �subject of the British Crown.
.
It must be clear that the terminology used by the Framers of the
Constitution are; �British subject�, �to make persons subjects of the
British Empire.�, �with the consent of the Imperial authority�, �What
is meant is a dual citizenship in Mr. Trenwith and myself. That is to
say, I am a citizen of the state and I am also a citizen of the
Commonwealth; that is the dual citizenship.�, �we are all alike
subjects of the British Crown.�.
It is beyond the Parliament and also the High Court of Australia
to alter the nationality of any subject of the Queen.
The High Court of Australia is constituted by the constitution and
as such cannot override the legal principles embedded in the
constitution. As such, the Sue v Hill and the Tasmania Dam decisions
were without legal force as the High Court of Australia exceeded its
judicial powers.
.
Aboriginals supported the 1967 referendum to amend s.51(xxvi) so
they too could be discriminated against, precisely what the Framers of
the Constitution sought to prevent, and as such Aboriginals cannot now
complain about racial discrimination where they supported the
referendum for this.
What however Aboriginals can complain about is that the Northern
Territory Intervention not being a law against all Aboriginals
(consider Hindmarsh case) then it is invalid in law. Either all
Aboriginals anywhere in the Commonwealth of Australia were subjected
to special legislation or none at all.
.
Likewise the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders Act is
unconstitutional as it deals with more then one race!
.
Do keep in mind that the Framers of the Constitution made it very
clear that s.51(xxvi) was specifically to avoid any problems with
International law as they were aware that International law cannot
override constitutional provisions.
.
While it is a bit complicated to explain in this response you
would in my view have a better option to try to rely upon the European
Union�s Human Rights provisions provided it doesn�t conflict with
Commonwealth law, as it can only be applied as a complimentary
legislation. Again, to explain this is too lengthy for this response.
.
I am well aware that so to say various Federal government and also
the courts couldn�t give a hood about what is constitutionally
appropriate where it doesn�t serve their purposes, but still we need
to pursue matters within the context of the constitution. The
constitution doesn�t belong to the government or the courts but
belongs to the people!
.
HANSARD 1-2-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record
of the Debates of the National Australasian Convention)
QUOTE Mr. OCONNOR (New South Wales).-
Because, as has been said before, it is [start page 357] necessary
not only that the administration of justice should be pure and above
suspicion, but that it should be beyond the possibility of suspicion
END QUOTE
The following will also make clear that the Framers of the
Constitution intended to have CIVIL RIGHTS and LIBERTIES principles
embedded in the Constitution;
HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record
of the Debates of the National Australasian Convention)
QUOTE Mr. CLARK.-
for the protection of certain fundamental rights and liberties
which every individual citizen is entitled to claim that the federal
government shall take under its protection and secure to him.
END QUOTE
.
HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
Mr. DEAKIN.- In this Constitution, although much is written much
remains unwritten,
END QUOTE
And
QUOTE Mr. DEAKIN.-
What a charter of liberty is embraced within this Bill-of
political liberty and religious liberty-the liberty and the means to
achieve all to which men in these days can reasonably aspire. A
charter of liberty is enshrined in this Constitution, which is also a
charter of peace-of peace, order, and good government for the whole of
the peoples whom it will embrace and unite.
END QUOTE
And
QUOTE
Mr. SYMON (South Australia).- We who are assembled in this
Convention are about to commit to the people of Australia a new
charter of union and liberty; we are about to commit this new Magna
Charta for their acceptance and confirmation, and I can conceive of
nothing of greater magnitude in the whole history of the peoples of
the world than this question upon which we are about to invite the
peoples of Australia to vote. The Great Charter was wrung by the
barons of England from a reluctant king. This new charter is to be
given by the people of Australia to themselves.
END QUOTE
Again;
QUOTE
This new charter is to be given by the people of Australia to
themselves.
END QUOTE
.
I can understand the utter frustration you and others may endure
in your fight for JUSTICE but try to channel it through the right
processes and base your arguments upon what is constitutionally viable
and then I suggest you recommence whatever you pursue.
.
If for example you were to pursue the unconstitutionality of the
Northern Territory Intervention that it should also be applied
otherwise to other Aboriginals including lawyers who are living in
cities like Melbourne and Sydney, then you might get far more
attention as to have this unconstitutional legislation defeated. Do
you really think lawyers would want to be dispossessed of their rights
of property, etc, they more then likely may join your cause! Once you
succeed in that regard then you can build upon this succeed to tackle
other issues.
.
Gerrit
.
Mr g. H. Schorel-Hlavka
.
15-10-2009
.
.
MAY JUSTICE ALWAYS PREVAIL�
Mr. G. H. Schorel-Hlavka, GUARDIAN
(OFFICE-OF-THE-GUARDIAN)
107 Graham Road, Viewbank, 3084, Victoria, Australia
Ph (International) 61394577209
.
Email; mayjusticea...@schorel-hlavka.com
he...@office-of-the-guardian.com (constitutional matters only)
"CONSTITUTIONALIST" and Author of books in the INSPECTOR-RIKATI�
series on certain constitutional and other legal issues.
.
EITHER WE HAVE A CONSTITUTION OR WE DON'T!
.
Website;
http://www.schorel-hlavka.com
Blog;
http://profiles.yahoo.com/inspector_rikati
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Sent: Thu, 15 October, 2009 12:55:43 PM
Subject: How the Australian Human Rights [sic] Commission
conspires to coverup Human Rights abuses including unlawful racial
discrimination; Why the Australian Judiciary should never be allowed
near the Bill of Rights, Jury needed in ALL Human Rights Matters
Dear ALL,
This email contains snippet of how the Australian Human Rights
[sic] Commission
1. conspire to pervert the Australian de facto Bill of Rights,
Australian Human Rights [sic] (and Equal Opportunity Commission) Act
1986
(You will note that the Senate Committee for constitution and
legal affairs chaired by Barnett and Crossin have removed the Equal
Opportunity part, since our exposing their unlawful discrimination);
2. covering up for their mates in the field of public health:
protected species if you are white and have friends who can pervert
the system;
3. give false and inadequate information: Notice how Ms Jane
Thomson refuses to deal with human rights issues of healthcare as a
separation from unlawful discrimination (which becomes intertwined
when you consider the hippocratic oath); which is what they are paid
to do!
4. she then tries to patronise us with the "you didnt mention your
race", which may be true but it was Burt who mentioned it initially.
5, This is the reason why you NEVER EVER allow the Australian
Judiciary anywhere near the Bill of Rights, not least since M142 Pham
vs French & ors, their abuse of discretionary powers is legendary that
Kirby J called the High Court racist....arbitrary and prejudicial
extra-judicial determination of legal processes and abuse of the legal
principal.....Fight the Federal Attorney General's attempt to give the
Bill of Rights to the Judiciary to handle; the Victorian Bill of
Rights shows that unelected judges are NOT fit to handle the Human
Rights legal aspects.
6. further complaints to the Human Rights [sic] Commission
regarding Senate Committee for constitution and legal affairs chaired
by Barnett and Crossin (which have been emailed previously), and the
Victorian Medical Board's covering up for Mr Burt, will be filed.
(You will remember the 4 year old Aborigines girl who died after
being refused medical care by the Qld hospital)
Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from
a
Corrupt, Racist White nation
Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
Senate.Enquiries.update.
31July2009.web.pdf
7. there are subtle and not so subtle (if you know what to look
for) institutional, systemic unlawful racial discrimination, and human
rights violations, to health, to education, to employment, as
enshrined in ICCPR and ICERD and enforced/able under HREOCA1986;
8. Its time for the International Criminal Court to look at abuse
of the legal system and legal principles from the Australian Judiciary
and system and parliament, in perverting justice and conspiring to
cause injury, arbitrary extra-judicial decisions, under the Crimes
against Humanity clause in the Rome statutes of the ICC.
9. Remember that HREOCA1986 is as close to common law as you can
get whilst implementing ICCPR and ICERD, the 2 human rights treaties;
10. Les Malezer (Aborigines "leader" and recipient of Human Rights
Medal 2008) was asked to enquire about racial discrimination in Geneva
at the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. After having
arrived back in Australia, Les Malezer has gone silent and refusing to
return phone calls; it seems Robbie Thorpe is correct that these black
"leaders" get fat in selling out their own people.
11. Robbie Thorpe and I will file a High Court challenge to the
australian Human rights [sic] commission's abuse of HREOCA1986 46PO as
a tool to violate ICCPR article 14.1, to coincide with
STOP TOXIC RACISM
Richard Downs and Harry Nelson Indigenous Speaking Tour In
Melbourne
PROTEST MARCH � Friday 16 October 2009 @10:00 am
@184 Gertrude Street Fitzroy-
March to Parliament
12. copy of complaint against Mr Burt follows:
PHAM
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: chas x <nwn.we...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Complaint of unlawful racial discrimination against
Mr Peter Burt [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
To: Complaints Info <complai...@humanrights.gov.au>
Dear Ms Jane Thomson,
I had asked you specifically to terminate this complaint, under
HREOCA1986 46PO, I had not asked you to determine it at all. And you
are lying that its NOT indirect racial discrimination as a threshold.
This is why i want this in the Courts as a precedence.
There will be a further complaint of racial discrimination against
the Medical Board of Victoria, that i will ask you to determine, and i
expect ALL correspondence to be in writing and on the Human Rights
Comissionn letterhead, even if the email is legal tender.
Right now I am expecting the termination papers as required by law
against Mr Burt.
I will send this to the Attorneys General and the PM's office, for
public record. Feel free to publish it widely
PHAM
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Complaints Info
<complai...@humanrights.gov.au> wrote:
Dear Mr Pham
I refer to your email complaint received on 7 October 2009 in
which you raised concerns about the actions of a medical specialist Mr
Peter Burt. You stated that you believe that his actions amounted to
racial discrimination.
This Commission can look into complaints of discrimination
under the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (RDA) in specific areas of
public life including in the provision of a service. Race
discrimination may occur where a person is treated less favourably
than another person in the same or similar circumstances and the
reason for that less favourable treatment is the person�s race.
In order to support a complaint of race discrimination, it is
not enough for a person to show that he or she is from a particular
racial background and has suffered some sort of unfair treatment. He
or she must show that the unfair treatment was based on or linked to
his or her race in one of the areas covered under the RDA.
While I appreciate that you believe that Mr Burt refused to
provide you with his service because of your race, you have not
clearly set out how the actions or behaviour of Mr Burt was linked to
your race. You state that Mr Burt accused you of "playing the race
card" however you have not stated why you believe that the reason he
treated you the way he did was because of your race. You have also not
stated what racial background you are from.
If you believe you have further information which would
support that Mr Burt's actions occurred because of your race then the
Commission would be happy to consider this information.
The Office of the Health Services Commissioner may be a more
appropriate body to deal with this complaint as it can take complaints
about the actions of doctors generally. Its website is:
http://www.health.vic.gov.au/hsc/. Ph. 1800 136 066.
If you would like to discuss this email or would like any
further information about our laws please contact me on 1300 656 419.
Yours sincerely
Jane Thomson
Complaint Information Officer
Complaint Handling Section
From: chas x [mailto:nwn.we...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 4:06 PM
To: Complaints Info
Subject: Complaint of unlawful racial discrimination against
Mr Peter Burt
Dear Australian Human Rights Commission,
Attached is the complaint against Mr Peter Burt. Please have
the President terminate it immediately, as a matter of urgency and
public interest.
cheer
PHAM
administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/
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Unprofessional conduct and unlawful racial discrimination of Mr
Peter Burt Provider
No. 016892CX
1. I give notice of unprofessional conduct of Mr Peter Burt;
2. Mr Peter Burt wants me to make a complaint against him; I
am making a full formal complaint against Mr Burt�s unprofessional
conduct;
3. Mr Burt wants me to accuse him of racial discrimination; I
am accusing Mr Burt of unlawful racial discrimination;
4. Mr Burt wants me to make the complaint public; I will make
the complaint very public;
5. Mr Burt wants me to make it personal; I will make it
personal;
6. Mr Burt freely admitted that my case was an emergency case;
7. On the 8th of July 2009, I presented at Mr Burt�s surgery;
8. I noticed his waiting room was full and busy;
9. I waited around for over one hour and 45 min to see Mr
Burt;
10. In his office, I made an off the cuff remark, that more than
30 min wait was beyond tolerable;
11. Mr Burt then made some remarks about emergency surgeries at
the hospital;
12. I have contacts with many health professionals, and I know
sometimes professionals just say things to appease the patients; I
made another off the cuff question seeking how many surgeries he had
done, especially when Mr Burt was standing there in his pinstripe
suit;
13. Mr Burt then got all flustered and pulled in one of his
assistants, just to clarify his 7 �emergency surgeries�;
14. Mr Burt then accused me of playing the �race card�; which
means he was the one noticing race;
15. By this time, 10-15 min had passed and I was getting eager
to have the session over with;
16. Mr Burt then refused to carry through with the consultation,
citing he was �insulted and that (I) haven�t apologised�;
17. I am now accusing Mr Burt of racial discrimination, for lack
of duty of care, violation of his Hippocratic Oath and being a total
disgrace to the memory of Dr Fred Hollows;
18. Mr Burt refused to see an emergency patient, in violation of
all professional codes of conduct; Mr Burt noted that I had bleeding
at the back of the eyes;
19. Mr Burt then fluffed me off to a junior physician, who had
to refer me to another specialist; I have no idea if I have been
treated correctly;
20. Given my emergency status, I could have sustained serious or
life-threatening or long-term injury;
21. By passing me onto another physician, Mr Burt inconvenienced
another patient, which I had clearly indicated to Mr Burt;
22. Now I did mention to Mr Burt in front of his assistant that I
am willing to go through with the examination, if Mr Burt was
professional enough to act like a health professional;
23. Mr Burt obviously indicated that he wasn�t professional
enough and shouldn�t be allowed to rort public purse for his pinstripe
suits;
24. Especially if Mr Burt has a personal system of punishment for
�difficult� patients;
25. Mr Burt then had the nerve to charge me for services in his
name and provider number;
26. I find that fraudulent; I had a suspicion that Mr Burt rushes
through many patients without providing proper care and attention in
order to rort the health system and/or medicare;
27. It may be that Mr Burt does not need Hippocratic Oath, but I
want to see if he has a duty to care;
28. Mr Burt will be sent this formal complaint, for his response;
29. I am now seeking a full and public apology; to be sent to
myself and posted in B3 size in front of his surgery: for lack of
professional conduct, and duty of care, unlawful racial
discrimination,
Judicial Corruption Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ
Senate.Enquiries.update. 31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en
cheers
PHAM
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Gerrit
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Mr g. H. Schorel-Hlavka
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15-10-2009
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Dear ALL,
Senate.Enquiries.update.
31July2009.web.pdf
PHAM
Dear Ms Jane Thomson,
PHAM
Dear Mr Pham
Yours sincerely
Jane Thomson
Complaint Information Officer
Complaint Handling Section
cheer
PHAM
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