Why fundamentalism will fail
John Manning
Why fundamentalism will fail
A seemingly unstoppable force is being undone from the inside
Excerpts:
IN 1910, A COHORT of ultra-conservative American Protestants drew up a
list of non-negotiable beliefs they insisted any genuine Christian must
subscribe to. They published these �fundamentals� in a series of widely
distributed pamphlets over the next five years.
Their catalog featured doctrines such as the virgin birth, the physical
resurrection of Christ, and his imminent second coming.
The cornerstone, though, was a belief in the literal inerrancy of every
syllable of the Bible, including in matters of geology, paleontology,
and secular history. They called these beliefs fundamentals, and proudly
styled themselves �fundamentalists� - true believers who feared that
liberal movements like the social gospel and openness to other faiths
were eroding the foundation of their religion...
As the 20th century ended and a new one began, fundamentalism has taken
on more formidable shapes, both politically and religiously. Though most
of its adherents work through spiritual and educational channels, the
small minority that turn to violence have caught the media�s attention.
If some seem ready to die for faith, others are ready to kill for it,
gunning down abortion doctors in church, hijacking planes, and exploding
bombs at weddings.
For plenty of thoughtful people, fundamentalism has come to represent
the most dangerous threat to open societies since the fall of communism.
However, the truth is that for all its apparent strength, the
fundamentalist sun is setting on all horizons. Throughout the Muslim
world growing numbers of people are becoming impatient with violent
groups that, in the name of Allah, seem capable of killing but incapable
of producing jobs, food, or health care.
Observers on the ground report that popular support for the jihadist
wing of the Taliban is falling off as it fails to address the real life
problems that afflict people in Afghanistan. (The other parts of the
Taliban are inspired less by fundamentalism than by tribal loyalties and
a traditional aversion to foreigners.)
Al Qaeda faces a similar dismal prospect. Dr. Audrey Kurth Cronin, a
professor at the National War College in Washington and author of a new
book, �How Terrorism Ends,� says, �I think Al Qaeda is in the process of
imploding. That is not necessarily the end. But the trends are in a good
direction.�
In Iran, the fact that the clerics have resorted to beating and
imprisoning their critics reveals the shakiness of their hold.
IN AMERICA, the religious right, which started as a crusade, is becoming
a niche. Randall Terry�s Operation Rescue, which stages demonstrations
at abortion clinics, has just announced that it is nearly bankrupt.
The shrillest TV evangelists are losing audiences to more moderate
�evangelical-lite� preachers. Fundamentalist congregations are ceding
ground to Pentecostals and mega-churches, which embrace a wider social
agenda and teach the spiritual authority - not the literal inerrancy -
of the Bible.
Surveys have shown that the rapid growth of evangelical Protestantism in
Latin America has not produced a replication of the American religious
right, but rather a moderate leftward tilt. A majority of Brazilian
evangelicals, for example, voted for President Lula, who ran as a
Workers Party candidate.
In South Korea, Christianity has grown faster than anywhere in the world
and now accounts for over a third of the population. But its theology
tends toward moderate evangelicalism with an ecumenical bent.
The fading of fundamentalism marks a decisive change in global society.
It has already freed Christians, Muslims, and Jews to explore what all
three have in common as they now begin to cooperate in confronting
nuclear weapons, poverty, and climate change...
But fundamentalist movements share another quality. They are inherently
fractious, and this is one reason for their broad decline.
When your view of reality is the only acceptable one, you cannot
compromise. Almost from its inception, American Protestant
fundamentalism split into warring factions. Its bellicosity toward
�liberals and modernists� was quickly turned on fellow fundamentalists
who were seen as not tough enough on the enemy. Since the Bible told
them not to be �unequally yoked together with unbelievers,� the question
of with whom one could properly associate became deeply vexed.
The most ardent partisans seceded from their denominations, and soon
began to quarrel about whether they should even fraternize with their
fellow fundamentalists who wanted to remain in their previous churches
to fight the �liberals.�...
Similarly, the modern religious right, the political arm of
fundamentalism, foundered on its inability to compromise or build
coalitions. Local branches of the Christian Coalition became furious
with national office staffers for cooperating with others in order to
pass legislation.
The same fragmenting logic eats away at Jewish �land fundamentalists,�
who base their claims to the West Bank on a literal reading of the
biblical book of Joshua (�conquer and settle�).
They despise the Jews who disagree with them even more than the
Palestinians whose terrain they claim. Some ultra-orthodox Jews still
refuse to accept the legitimacy of the state of Israel, since only the
Messiah is supposed to reclaim the Promised Land...
ANOTHER REASON WHY fundamentalists are faltering today has to do with
the world outside. The fundamentalist world view is unbending and
monochrome, but today�s world is variable and multi-hued, and the
plurality is more and more visible.
Thanks to the increase of immigrants from Asia and the Middle East,
mosques and pagodas now share streets with churches and synagogues in
Europe and America. People of the previous generation could retreat into
a culturally isolated community and pull down the shades, but their
children live every day with a heightened, web-enhanced awareness of a
diverse world...
Fundamentalism is defined by its one-way-only exclusivism. But today
spiritually inclined people view the once-high walls between religious
traditions as porous. They borrow freely.
Synagogues and churches incorporate Asian meditation practices into
their services. Instead of a single churchly allegiance, people now
assemble �repertories� of elements from a number of sources. They may
attend Mass, take a yoga class, and keep a Buddhist devotional book on
their bedside table. Clerics often denounce this as �cafeteria style�
religion, but the current of religious history is flowing against them...
The very nature of human religiousness is changing in a way inimical to
fundamentalist thought. The most rapidly growing spiritual groups today
focus not on someone else�s authority, but on a direct encounter with
the divine. Whatever else it may mean that so many people call
themselves �spiritual but not religious,� it suggests they still yearn
for contact with the sacred, but are suspicious of the scaffolding, the
doctrines, and hierarchies through which it has often been conveyed...
A new and promising chapter in the long story of human faith is
beginning. Its untidiness often reminds me of the exuberant earliest
years of Christianity. Maturity comes with time. Future historians may
look back on the 20th century as a time when something called
�fundamentalism� interrupted, but only briefly, the age-old human search
for a way to live in the face of mystery, and to envision what Martin
Luther King called a �beloved community.�
John Manning
Ike E 11/05/09
"John Manning" <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
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>
>
> Why fundamentalism will fail
No, it won't fail. You apostates will simply try to drive it out of the
world, and then God will send it ROARING back in.
> A seemingly unstoppable force is being undone from the inside
Yes, the Great Apostasy is rising, but it WILL be stopped at the last
moment--by the literal return of Jesus.
> Excerpts:
>
> IN 1910, A COHORT of ultra-conservative American Protestants drew up a
> list of non-negotiable beliefs they insisted any genuine Christian must
> subscribe to. They published these �fundamentals� in a series of widely
> distributed pamphlets over the next five years.
>
> Their catalog featured doctrines such as the virgin birth, the physical
> resurrection of Christ, and his imminent second coming.
All of which are correct.
> The cornerstone, though, was a belief in the literal inerrancy of every
> syllable of the Bible,
Which is a mistake.
That STILL doesn't change the story (as you "beasts" are trying to do).
> including in matters of geology, paleontology, and secular history. They
> called these beliefs fundamentals, and proudly styled themselves
> �fundamentalists� - true believers who feared that liberal movements like
> the social gospel and openness to other faiths were eroding the foundation
> of their religion...
"Openness to other faiths" = "Babylon rising."
Jesus said He was THE Way, THE Truth, and THE life; no man comes to the
Father EXCEPT BY HIM.
But that screws up your universalistic global agenda doesn't it, Satan?
> As the 20th century ended and a new one began, fundamentalism has taken on
> more formidable shapes, both politically and religiously. Though most of
> its adherents work through spiritual and educational channels, the small
> minority that turn to violence have caught the media�s attention.
Oh, now WE'RE the "violent ones," eh?
You people are SUCH insidious liars.
> If some seem ready to die for faith, others are ready to kill for it,
> gunning down abortion doctors in church, hijacking planes, and exploding
> bombs at weddings.
I know of the antichristians who have attacked abotionists, but highjacking
planes and exploding bombs at wedding?
YOU'RE FABRICATING ACCUSATIONS, just like the prophets said you people
would.
> For plenty of thoughtful people, fundamentalism has come to represent the
> most dangerous threat to open societies since the fall of communism.
No, your rebellion against the Word of Truth IS THE MOST DANGEROUS THREAT
since the fall of communism.
> However, the truth is that for all its apparent strength,
JESUS is the only TRUTH there is, oh, clueless one.
> the fundamentalist sun is setting on all horizons.
Yes, the Great Apostasy is rising.
> Throughout the Muslim world growing numbers of people are becoming
> impatient with violent groups that, in the name of Allah, seem capable of
> killing but incapable of producing jobs, food, or health care.
"...and health care?"
Since when did health care become a RIGHT.
In fact, "health care" is a game of smoke and mirrors for the most part:
Apply all the humanistic means you want, you'll STILL die and face the
throne of judgment.
All that aside, what does "violence" have to do with Christianity?
> Observers on the ground report that popular support for the jihadist wing
> of the Taliban is falling off as it fails to address the real life
> problems that afflict people in Afghanistan. (The other parts of the
> Taliban are inspired less by fundamentalism than by tribal loyalties and a
> traditional aversion to foreigners.)
A Muslim is a Muslim.
Every person of every religion that ever existed would get into the Kingdom
of God before ONE SINGLE MUSLIM: What the Gentiles did they did in ignorance
(as Paul said "beforetimes God winked at these things"), but what the
Muslims did they did DELIBERATELY, God having already REVEALED the Word of
Truth, a.k.a. Jesus Christ.
No, God won't be showing Muslims any quarter when He comes.
> Al Qaeda faces a similar dismal prospect. Dr. Audrey Kurth Cronin, a
> professor at the National War College in Washington and author of a new
> book, �How Terrorism Ends,� says, �I think Al Qaeda is in the process of
> imploding. That is not necessarily the end. But the trends are in a good
> direction.�
Yes, the "beast" of the south will be forced into temporary subjection to
the "beast" of the north, but in the end, they'll rise up IN VIOLENCE
AGAIN...
Re 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall
hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her
flesh, and burn her with fire.
> In Iran, the fact that the clerics have resorted to beating and
> imprisoning their critics reveals the shakiness of their hold.
>
>
> IN AMERICA, the religious right, which started as a crusade, is becoming a
> niche. Randall Terry�s Operation Rescue, which stages demonstrations at
> abortion clinics, has just announced that it is nearly bankrupt.
>
> The shrillest TV evangelists are losing audiences to more moderate
> �evangelical-lite� preachers. Fundamentalist congregations are ceding
> ground to Pentecostals and mega-churches, which embrace a wider social
> agenda and teach the spiritual authority - not the literal inerrancy - of
> the Bible.
Yes, the Great Apostasy is rising...
> Surveys have shown that the rapid growth of evangelical Protestantism in
> Latin America has not produced a replication of the American religious
> right, but rather a moderate leftward tilt. A majority of Brazilian
> evangelicals, for example, voted for President Lula, who ran as a Workers
> Party candidate.
>
> In South Korea, Christianity has grown faster than anywhere in the world
> and now accounts for over a third of the population. But its theology
> tends toward moderate evangelicalism with an ecumenical bent.
>
> The fading of fundamentalism marks a decisive change in global society.
Yes, the way is being prepared for the unholy trinity.
> It has already freed Christians, Muslims, and Jews to explore what all
> three have in common as they now begin to cooperate in confronting nuclear
> weapons, poverty, and climate change...
Yes, the Great Apostasy is rising.
Fortunately, when YOU think you have all your problems worked out, THAT'S
when God will be along to kick your collective asses...
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction
cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not
escape.
> But fundamentalist movements share another quality. They are inherently
> fractious, and this is one reason for their broad decline.
>
> When your view of reality is the only acceptable one, you cannot
> compromise. Almost from its inception, American Protestant fundamentalism
> split into warring factions. Its bellicosity toward �liberals and
> modernists� was quickly turned on fellow fundamentalists who were seen as
> not tough enough on the enemy. Since the Bible told them not to be
> �unequally yoked together with unbelievers,� the question of with whom one
> could properly associate became deeply vexed.
Yes, yes, Jesus laid all this out in the seven letters of Revelation. It
still doesn't change the fact that you will ultimately LOSE.
> The most ardent partisans seceded from their denominations, and soon began
> to quarrel about whether they should even fraternize with their fellow
> fundamentalists who wanted to remain in their previous churches to fight
> the �liberals.�...
>
> Similarly, the modern religious right, the political arm of
> fundamentalism, foundered on its inability to compromise or build
> coalitions. Local branches of the Christian Coalition became furious with
> national office staffers for cooperating with others in order to pass
> legislation.
>
> The same fragmenting logic eats away at Jewish �land fundamentalists,� who
> base their claims to the West Bank on a literal reading of the biblical
> book of Joshua (�conquer and settle�).
Here comes Babylon...
> They despise the Jews who disagree with them even more than the
> Palestinians whose terrain they claim. Some ultra-orthodox Jews still
> refuse to accept the legitimacy of the state of Israel, since only the
> Messiah is supposed to reclaim the Promised Land...
Yes, there ARE a few wise Israelites out there somewhere...
> ANOTHER REASON WHY fundamentalists are faltering today has to do with the
> world outside. The fundamentalist world view is unbending and monochrome,
> but today�s world is variable and multi-hued, and the plurality is more
> and more visible.
Yes, the world IS filled with whores--literally, figuratively, and
spiritually--isn't it?
> Thanks to the increase of immigrants from Asia and the Middle East,
Yes, that WAS a huge mistake.
> mosques and pagodas now share streets with churches and synagogues in
> Europe and America.
Yes, the ARE a lot of whores out in this country now, aren't there?
> People of the previous generation could retreat into a culturally
> isolated community and pull down the shades, but their children live every
> day with a heightened, web-enhanced awareness of a diverse world...
Yes, it DOES suck to live in a world full of abominations.
> Fundamentalism is defined by its one-way-only exclusivism.
Jesus being the first REAL "Fundamentalist"...
Joh 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep
did not hear them.
> But today spiritually inclined...
Retranslated: "Prostitutes."
> .... people view the once-high walls between religious traditions as
> porous. They borrow freely.
Yes, the world IS full of whores.
> Synagogues and churches incorporate Asian meditation practices into their
> services.
Not real ones.
> Instead of a single churchly allegiance, people now assemble
> �repertories� of elements from a number of sources. They may attend Mass,
> take a yoga class, and keep a Buddhist devotional book on their bedside
> table.
Yes, Babylon, i.e. religious eclecticism, IS rising.
> Clerics often denounce this as �cafeteria style� religion, but the
> current of religious history is flowing against them...
Nope. Against YOU.
> The very nature of human religiousness...
You just nailed it: "human religiousness."
> ... is changing in a way inimical to fundamentalist thought. The most
> rapidly growing spiritual groups today focus not on someone else�s
> authority, but on a direct encounter with the divine.
Read as "demons and apparitions."
> Whatever else it may mean that so many people call themselves �spiritual
> but not religious,� it suggests they still yearn for contact with the
> sacred, but are suspicious of the scaffolding, the doctrines, and
> hierarchies through which it has often been conveyed...
Yes, Jesus DID lay out the problems that would arise. Nevertheless, Jesus is
STILL the ONLY Way, Truth, and Life.
> A new and promising chapter in the long story of human faith is beginning.
Um, no, the beginning of the end of your kind...
Rev 6:1-2
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were
the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow;
and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to
conquer.
> Its untidiness often reminds me of the exuberant earliest years of
> Christianity. Maturity comes with time. Future historians may look back on
> the 20th century as a time when something called �fundamentalism�
> interrupted, but only briefly, the age-old human search for a way to live
> in the face of mystery...
No, they'll look back at it as the time when mankind made its greatest
errors, and brought the wrath of God down on its collective head.
> and to envision what Martin Luther King called a �beloved community.�
What Dr. King was talking about and what YOU are talking about are totally
opposite.
Dr. King was a CHRISTIAN FIRST and an ACTIVIST SECOND, which is why he
frequently pissed off the rest of the black community, as he refused to join
forces with Islam and black militants: THAT nonsense didn't take root until
AFTER he was martyred for the Truth.
Ike
panam...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>
> news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
snippy!
ROFLMAO! Perfect timing!
You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
will never believe us when we try to describe you.
Oh, wait..they already have!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486358/
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
Ike E 11/05/09
<panam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>
>> news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
> You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
> article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
> documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
> will never believe us when we try to describe you.
The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be anyone
standing between you and God's wrath...
2Th 2:6-12
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time:
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will
let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be
revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and
shall destroy with the brightness of his coming; even him, whose coming is
after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and
with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they
received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should
believe a lie, that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but
had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Ike
Enkidu
> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be anyone
> standing between you and God's wrath...
I'm good with that.
panam...@hotmail.com
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> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>
> >>news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
> > You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
> > article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
> > documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
> > will never believe us when we try to describe you.
>
> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be anyone
> standing between you and God's wrath...
ROFL! You did it *again*!!! How the fuck do you morons manage to cross
the street without being struck by a bus?
> 2Th 2:6-12
>
> And now ye know what withholdeth
snip
Choke your chicken somewhere else, witch doctor. Nobody here in
alt.atheism is afraid of your moronic "magic".
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Ike E 11/05/09
<panam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 8, 11:51 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>> news:6ecbb708-bd19-42ab...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>
>>>>news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
>>> You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
>>> article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
>>> documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
>>> will never believe us when we try to describe you.
>
>> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be
>> anyone
>> standing between you and God's wrath...
> ROFL! You did it *again*!!! How the fuck do you morons manage to cross
> the street without being struck by a bus?
The "moron" here is you.
>> 2Th 2:6-12
>>
>> And now ye know what withholdeth
> snip
See what I mean.
> Choke your chicken somewhere else, witch doctor. Nobody here in
> alt.atheism is afraid of your moronic "magic".
Yes, I know: You're too stupid to realize how much trouble you're buying
yourself.
Ike
panam...@hotmail.com
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>
>
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> > On Nov 8, 11:51 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:6ecbb708-bd19-42ab...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>
> >>>>news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
> >>> You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
> >>> article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
> >>> documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
> >>> will never believe us when we try to describe you.
>
> >> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be
> >> anyone
> >> standing between you and God's wrath...
> > ROFL! You did it *again*!!! How the fuck do you morons manage to cross
> > the street without being struck by a bus?
>
> The "moron" here is you.
LMAO! I'm not the one `threatining' people with a Bronze Age
Palistinian fairy tale.
> >> 2Th 2:6-12
>
> >> And now ye know what withholdeth
> > snip
>
> See what I mean.
What? You're just like any other shaman, shaking your fist and
screaming "BOOGA-BOOGA-BOOGA!!"
> > Choke your chicken somewhere else, witch doctor. Nobody here in
> > alt.atheism is afraid of your moronic "magic".
>
> Yes, I know: You're too stupid to realize how much trouble you're buying
> yourself.
Empty threats from an empty mind. Thanks again for such a wonderful
demonstration of the article Mr. Manning quoted.
Bill M
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wrote:
> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 11:51 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:6ecbb708-bd19-42ab...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>
> >> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be
> >> anyone
> >> standing between you and God's wrath...
> > ROFL! You did it *again*!!! How the fuck do you morons manage to cross
> > the street without being struck by a bus?
>
> The "moron" here is you.
LMAO! I'm not the one `threatining' people with a Bronze Age
Palistinian fairy tale.
> >> 2Th 2:6-12
>
> >> And now ye know what withholdeth
> > snip
>
> See what I mean.
What? You're just like any other shaman, shaking your fist and
screaming "BOOGA-BOOGA-BOOGA!!"
> > Choke your chicken somewhere else, witch doctor. Nobody here in
> > alt.atheism is afraid of your moronic "magic".
>
> Yes, I know: You're too stupid to realize how much trouble you're buying
> yourself.
Empty threats from an empty mind. Thanks again for such a wonderful
demonstration of the article Mr. Manning quoted.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
It should be obvious to all the sane members of society that the
religionists
suffer brain serious brain defects that are difficult to fix.
Ike E 11/05/09
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[snip]
> Empty threats from an empty mind.
You better hope so, huh?
> Thanks again for such a wonderful
> demonstration of the article Mr. Manning quoted.
Thanks for such a wonderful demonstration of the ongoing fulfillment of
prophecy IN what Mr. Manning quoted.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but
after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching
ears...
The Jesus Seminar tells people what the WANT to hear (which was the basis
for the design of their "system"); the believers tell people what they NEED
to hear.
Ike
panam...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3a158d88-d93f-4840...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> [snip]
>
> > Empty threats from an empty mind.
>
> You better hope so, huh?
LOL! "...and the hits just keep on coming..." Such magnificent
ignorance!
You *really* don't understand, do you?
Someone who doesn't believe in your insipid fairy tale doesn't have to
"hope so", any more than they'd have to "hope" they'd be spared being
sent to Jigoku by the Kami, to Xibalba by Vucub Caquix, or to Arkham
Asylum by Batman.
> > Thanks again for such a wonderful
> > demonstration of the article Mr. Manning quoted.
>
> Thanks for such a wonderful demonstration of the ongoing fulfillment of
> prophecy IN what Mr. Manning quoted.
>
> 2Ti 4:3 For the time will come
Yadayadayada...go choke your chickens somwhere else, you moronic
VooDooHooDoo man.
Q:How can you tell the difference between a Christian shaman, and one
from Africa?
A: The Christian one has the bone up his ass, instead of through his
nose.
Sulfate
wrote:
> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3a158d88-d93f-4840...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> [snip]
>
> > Empty threats from an empty mind.
>
> You better hope so, huh?
Divine retribution is about as empty as threats get. I mean, has it
never occurred to you that a brown guy wearing a turban is waiting in
the afterlife to mess your shit up?
Majd al-Din
Is he still pissed that there were no 72 Virgins awaiting him? ;-p
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
4ec0b8...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com:
Heh. This should be the sequel:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088794/
--
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Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
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news:hd874h$ka1$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> <panam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6ecbb708-bd19-42ab...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com..
> .
>> On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>>
>>> news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
>
>> You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
>> article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
>> documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
>> will never believe us when we try to describe you.
>
> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be
> anyone standing between you and God's wrath...
There's no god, therefore there will be no wrath.
But hurry up and rapture your ass so we can live in peace.
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
>
> <panam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:84bcc1aa-e903-436d...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.
> ..
>> On Nov 8, 11:51 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> news:6ecbb708-bd19-42ab...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com
>>> ...
>>
>>>> On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>>
>>>>>news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
>>>> You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
>>>> article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
>>>> documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
>>>> will never believe us when we try to describe you.
>>
>>> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be
>>> anyone
>>> standing between you and God's wrath...
>
>> ROFL! You did it *again*!!! How the fuck do you morons manage to
>> cross the street without being struck by a bus?
>
> The "moron" here is you.
No, he's fine. You, however, have a distinct smell of stupid about you.
>
>>> 2Th 2:6-12
>>>
>>> And now ye know what withholdeth
>
>> snip
>
> See what I mean.
>
>> Choke your chicken somewhere else, witch doctor. Nobody here in
>> alt.atheism is afraid of your moronic "magic".
>
> Yes, I know: You're too stupid to realize how much trouble you're
> buying yourself.
Dude, you're the one afraid of your boogeyman, not us. Put batteries in
your freaking flashlight and you'll see there's nothing there.
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
> The Jesus Seminar tells people what the WANT to hear (which was the
> basis for the design of their "system"); the believers tell people
> what they NEED to hear.
Arrogant little shit.
You fucks ain't all that.
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
news:7lsuk4F3...@mid.individual.net:
Wait till he finds out: he's one of the virgins, himself.
Yap
wrote:
> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6ecbb708-bd19-42ab...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>
> >>news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
> > You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
> > article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
> > documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
> > will never believe us when we try to describe you.
>
> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be anyone
> standing between you and God's wrath...
atheists.
Atheists do not come under any rule of a sky pixie, imaginary god, or
even a real god(in your brain).
>
> 2Th 2:6-12
>
> And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time:
> For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will
> let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be
> revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and
> shall destroy with the brightness of his coming; even him, whose coming is
> after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and
> with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they
> received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
> And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should
> believe a lie, that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but
> had pleasure in unrighteousness.
>
> Ike
Yap
wrote:
> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:84bcc1aa-e903-436d...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 11:51 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:6ecbb708-bd19-42ab...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> On Nov 8, 3:04 pm, "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "John Manning" <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
>
> >>>>news:-9mdnRRQkcDtYGvX...@giganews.com...
> >>> You gave a beautiful example of *everything* the author of that
> >>> article said about you wretched freaks. Someone needs to make a
> >>> documentary about you people, before you're all gone. The young'uns
> >>> will never believe us when we try to describe you.
>
> >> The believers will be dead and gone alright, but then there won't be
> >> anyone
> >> standing between you and God's wrath...
> > ROFL! You did it *again*!!! How the fuck do you morons manage to cross
> > the street without being struck by a bus?
>
> The "moron" here is you.
life.
Real world is for atheists.
>
> >> 2Th 2:6-12
>
> >> And now ye know what withholdeth
> > snip
>
> See what I mean.
>
> > Choke your chicken somewhere else, witch doctor. Nobody here in
> > alt.atheism is afraid of your moronic "magic".
>
> Yes, I know: You're too stupid to realize how much trouble you're buying
> yourself.
You are the one who has to deal with all the issues coined by ancient
cons.
>
> Ike
Yap
wrote:
> <panamfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3a158d88-d93f-4840...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> [snip]
>
> > Empty threats from an empty mind.
>
> You better hope so, huh?
>
> > Thanks again for such a wonderful
> > demonstration of the article Mr. Manning quoted.
>
> Thanks for such a wonderful demonstration of the ongoing fulfillment of
> prophecy IN what Mr. Manning quoted.
>
> 2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but
> after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching
> ears...
>
> The Jesus Seminar tells people what the WANT to hear (which was the basis
> for the design of their "system"); the believers tell people what they NEED
> to hear.
>
> Ike
Yap
<gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
> "Ike E 11/05/09" <xhermaneicklebe...@gmail.com> wrote innews:hd8qq6$f6b$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
batteries.
For them, it is more comfortable in the dark. When a light comes on,
the truth will be revealed. And it is the truth that they fear.
>
> --
> Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939
>
> Book reviews:http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
>
Ike E 11/05/09
[snip]
> But hurry up and rapture your ass so we can live in peace.
Don't believe in it, like the MAJORITY of Christians.
Ike
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
Whatever. Do whatever it is you pricks do when you die.