To protect yourself from scam artists (or worse) there's one main
rule: Don't trust any anonymous posters. If they won't identify
themselves and allow you to examine their real life and history,
then you can't believe anything they say.
Right now on alt.religion.wicca you are seeing an anonymous
poster named "ren" supposedly entering the dreams of another
anonymous poster named "Damaeus" and helping him get his head
together.
This is a cheap con game. They are both the "sockpuppets" of
the same, anonymous, person.
Despite his attempts to convince people that he's
computer/internet/usenet illiterate, "ren" clearly has a good
deal of expertise in this area:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.pagan.magick/msg/5490d0ad238634ce
As for his ability to enter people's dreams, that's garbage.
I dream about where I live all the time and where I live
is obviously America.
Yet "ren" has to ask me this question:
"What country are you from, Sid?"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/ed00270aa79f3987
(There are many more examples of him asking me questions on this
group that he wouldn't have to ask if had any psychic abilities
at all.)
He will probably say that he doesn't enter people's dreams
without their permission, but that's another lie. He clearly
has no scruples or morals at all. Here's an article where he
threatens to scramble someone's brains for relatively minor
actions:
"Hire a private investigator to find out more about me, harass me by
telephone, email me, you're swimming in deep and dangerous water. I
will scramble your brains and keep you posting to serve as an
example."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/7645f9930048bea2
Note that what really bothers him above is being investigated. This
is a recurring theme in his articles: The idea of anyone investigating
him sends him right over the edge.
He REALLY doesn't want anyone knowing who he really is.
For the simple reason that he's a complete fraud.
(Anyone who can enter other people's dreams can do it whether
they like it or not, unless the intended victims are accomplished
lucid dreamers too and are stronger than the person attempting to
enter their dreams. A skilled lucid dreamer can enter another's
dreams without them even being aware of it.)
I could easily post many other examples of "ren" engaging in
ammoral and/or unethical behavior. If he could enter people's
dreams he'd do it all the time without a qualm. He's obviously
a pathological liar, for one thing. I can prove that too.
What you are looking at here, with this Damaeus/ren charade,
is a cheap con game that any troll could pull off. Any youngster
with his mommy's computer and credit card and some experience
on the usenet
Sid
What utter nonsense! Post your own personal information here then, so
we can all know your address and phone number. Please post a picture
as well. You don't even admit whether you are male or female.
Are you really this big an idiot? Do you not know that the REAL scam
artists (or worse) just LOVE to have people's personal info so they
can use it to commit crimes? And didn't you hire a private
investigator to invade the privacy of someone you don't know? What a
hypocritical jackass you are!
>
*****************
>
> As for his ability to enter people's dreams, that's garbage.
> I dream about where I live all the time and where I live
> is obviously America.
REALLY?? Well this is great news. So all that shit you have posted
about "American assholes" and how anyone who voted Democrat or did not
vote at all was really supporting Bush somehow, and how all Americans
support murder and other American atrocities by buying groceries and
supporting mall merchants...you were talking about yourself too? Your
self-loathing becomes more and more evident. This explains a lot
about your bizarre behavior.
>
>
> Note that what really bothers him above is being investigated. This
> is a recurring theme in his articles: The idea of anyone investigating
> him sends him right over the edge.
You know, sidneystone, I believe everyone here would be bothered by
the thought of you hiring a private investigator to invade our privacy
for your twisted obsessive internet games. The fact that you are so
obsessive about knowing intimate details about other people's lives is
pretty good proof that you have LOTS of secrets YOU are hiding. You
have somehow convinced yourself that you can control that and keep
your secrets safe by controlled your knowledge of the lives of others.
>
> He REALLY doesn't want anyone knowing who he really is.
Do YOU? Then I challenge you again: Post your personal data here.
Tell us who YOU really are.
>
> For the simple reason that he's a complete fraud.
Mirror, mirror...
>
> (Anyone who can enter other people's dreams can do it whether
> they like it or not, unless the intended victims are accomplished
> lucid dreamers too and are stronger than the person attempting to
> enter their dreams. A skilled lucid dreamer can enter another's
> dreams without them even being aware of it.)
But that wouldn't be ethical, now, would it? Do you care about ethics
at all? Do you respect anyone's privacy? No. So you are not
qualified to judge anyone else's morals.
You said,
> He will probably say that he doesn't enter people's dreams
> without their permission, but that's another lie. He clearly
> has no scruples or morals at all.
> I could easily post many other examples of "ren" engaging in
> ammoral and/or unethical behavior. If he could enter people's
> dreams he'd do it all the time without a qualm. He's obviously
> a pathological liar, for one thing. I can prove that too.
YOU are clearly demonstrating a lack of moral and ethical behavior.
This is yet another case of you using another as your mirror and not
liking what you see. How will you "prove" that he is a pathological
liar? In order to do that, we would have to first believe that you
are a pathological truth teller. And I don't think anyone here
believes that to be anywhere near the truth.
>
>
> What you are looking at here, with this Damaeus/ren charade,
> is a cheap con game that any troll could pull off. Any youngster
> with his mommy's computer and credit card and some experience
> on the usenet
What we are really looking at here is someone who needs to be on
psychiatric meds. Wow. How chaotic and dark your world must seem!
Let's all send sid healing energies and intent for his/her healing.
The need is obviously great. We must not withhold good intentions on
our part because sid sends us only negative ones.
>
What utter nonsense! Post your own personal information here then, so
we can all know your address and phone number. Please post a picture
as well. You don't even admit whether you are male or female.
Are you really this big an idiot? Do you not know that the REAL scam
artists (or worse) just LOVE to have people's personal info so they
can use it to commit crimes? And didn't you hire a private
investigator to invade the privacy of someone you don't know? What a
hypocritical jackass you are!
*****************
Since sidneystone has pretended to killfile you, she can also pretend not to
have read your concisely accurate conclusions and can dodge addressing them.
Unfortunately for sidstone, anyone else who can read them can easily arrive
at a similiar conclusion.
>
> [...]
>
>> Note that what really bothers him above is being investigated. This
>> is a recurring theme in his articles: The idea of anyone investigating
>> him sends him right over the edge.
>
>You know, sidneystone, I believe everyone here would be bothered by
>the thought of you hiring a private investigator to invade our privacy
>for your twisted obsessive internet games. The fact that you are so
>obsessive about knowing intimate details about other people's lives is
>pretty good proof that you have LOTS of secrets YOU are hiding. You
>have somehow convinced yourself that you can control that and keep
>your secrets safe by controlled your knowledge of the lives of others.
>
It's also a very good indicator of someone, (sidstone), who lacks
self-control and seeks control over others.
>
>> He REALLY doesn't want anyone knowing who he really is.
>
>Do YOU? Then I challenge you again: Post your personal data here.
>Tell us who YOU really are.
>
sidneystone will not address, (let alone meet), that challenge in her
hypocrisy of delusions.
>
>> For the simple reason that he's a complete fraud.
>
>Mirror, mirror...
>
> [...]
>
>> I could easily post many other examples of "ren" engaging in
>> ammoral and/or unethical behavior. If he could enter people's
>> dreams he'd do it all the time without a qualm. He's obviously
>> a pathological liar, for one thing. I can prove that too.
>
>YOU are clearly demonstrating a lack of moral and ethical behavior.
>This is yet another case of you using another as your mirror and not
>liking what you see. How will you "prove" that he is a pathological
>liar? In order to do that, we would have to first believe that you
>are a pathological truth teller. And I don't think anyone here
>believes that to be anywhere near the truth.
>
Indeed. sidneystone displays the "morals and ethics" of an evangelical
minister with her hand caught in the cookie jar.
>
>>What you are looking at here, with this Damaeus/ren charade,
>> is a cheap con game that any troll could pull off. Any youngster
>> with his mommy's computer and credit card and some experience
>> on the usenet.
>
>What we are really looking at here is someone who needs to be on
>psychiatric meds.
>
What sidneystone seems to be conveying is that she uses her mother's
computer and credit card to troll usenet and have dissenting posters
"investigated".
>
>Wow. How chaotic and dark your world must seem!
>Let's all send sid healing energies and intent for his/her healing.
>The need is obviously great. We must not withhold good intentions on
>our part because sid sends us only negative ones.
>
No doubt the "sidney lambe" alias will be of no avail should Homeland
Security officials, (for example), decide to flag her as a potential perp
and show up at he door. If that happens, she'll need all the healing energy
she can get, (and then some).
> The internet is the land of illusions, and this applies especially to
> the usenet.
>
> To protect yourself from scam artists (or worse) there's one main rule:
> Don't trust any anonymous posters.
I can trust everyone and still live in truth. It's because I trust the
strength of my own truth enough to trust everyone whose post I read, that
they're being honest and consistent. I'm perceptive enough to know
bullshit when I read it--such as in your posts.
> If they won't identify themselves and allow you to examine their real
> life and history,
What good would that do?
> then you can't believe anything they say.
Who says you have to believe anything anyone says? What I believe about
another person doesn't affect how I live in my own truth. I interact with
others using my own truth, and I assume they do the same. Given that,
stimulating conversations come from people who can perceive. I see and
recognize opinions and perceptual reports from others when I read them. I
know how to separate my own perception from the opinions of others, which
is why your posts are so utterly ridiculous to me. As if I "need" your
opinions about others to avoid some pitfall you think I'm not aware of, or
to discover some greater truth you think I'm missing or in need of.
Most of the things you suggest I believe in would make me a cave man.
Since you advertise cave man spirituality (and act like a cave man over
the internet), I trust that my own truth is better for me than yours would
be.
> Right now on alt.religion.wicca you are seeing an anonymous poster named
> "ren" supposedly entering the dreams of another anonymous poster named
> "Damaeus" and helping him get his head together.
That you think I need you to tell me what I'm seeing in alt.religion.wicca
is more of an insult than you criticizing my beliefs as a checklist. To
need that kind of advice, I'd have to be an utter retard, incapable of
even swallowing, incapable of speech or using a computer.
I don't need help getting my head together.
> This is a cheap con game. They are both the "sockpuppets" of the same,
> anonymous, person.
Thanks for advertising your perception. It exposes your mindset and
errors plainly for all to see.
> Despite his attempts to convince people that he's
> computer/internet/usenet illiterate, "ren" clearly has a good deal of
> expertise in this area:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.pagan.magick/msg/5490d0ad238634ce
>
> As for his ability to enter people's dreams, that's garbage. I dream
> about where I live all the time and where I live is obviously America.
>
> Yet "ren" has to ask me this question:
>
> "What country are you from, Sid?"
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/ed00270aa79f3987
>
> (There are many more examples of him asking me questions on this group
> that he wouldn't have to ask if had any psychic abilities at all.)
Why make a vague statement like that and just leave it there? You should
go and research these articles and list all the questions here, instead of
just that one. And that you think being psychic would make someone aware
of where every poster on the internet lives, you obviously don't
understand psychic abilities at all. You just equate it with mind
reading, apparently, as if one could dip into your mind and tell you what
you're thinking. You're so stupid concerning psychic abilities that
you're the type of person who, when someone claims to be psychic, asks the
most clueless question of all, "Okay, what am I thinking?" That is the
mark of a true idiot/retard/moron value pack trinity of stupidity. And
that is where YOU reside.
> He will probably say that he doesn't enter people's dreams without their
> permission, but that's another lie.
You act like a person who believes that psychics just dip into people's
minds and dig out facts, too. You act like that kind of "psychic". Fake.
> He clearly has no scruples or morals at all. Here's an article where he
> threatens to scramble someone's brains for relatively minor actions:
>
> "Hire a private investigator to find out more about me, harass me by
> telephone, email me, you're swimming in deep and dangerous water. I
> will scramble your brains and keep you posting to serve as an example."
You are a true idiot, and clearly not cognizant enough of your own self to
judge reality soundly, but then you equate "scramble your brains" as a
physical scrambling with an electric hand mixer, when it's simply Ren's
creative way of "threatening" to continue posting messages that are
confusing to whomever this "someone" is. I've just explained to you and
everyone how and why you are a complete and total fucktard who has no
business even using a computer, much less posting to the internet and
expecting to get the satisfaction of being taken seriously. You will not
be taken seriously here by me, or probably not by anyone else after
reading this message exposing your subzero IQ.
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/7645f9930048bea2
> Note that what really bothers him above is being investigated. This
> is a recurring theme in his articles: The idea of anyone investigating
> him sends him right over the edge.
>
> He REALLY doesn't want anyone knowing who he really is.
>
> For the simple reason that he's a complete fraud.
The nice part is that he can do what he does without your belief in him.
As for when he said this:
> Ren - Come looking for me to harass me in person, threaten me, or
> Ren - hurt me. You will go away, either to jail, or somewhere
> Ren - else. This happened 4 times. TheGothicStatue, RyanTickle,
> Ren - ToriTeam, and Mr. White. Where are they now?
He switches from referring to usenet posts to referring to people coming
after him physically. Different paragraph. Different focus. If you
weren't illiterate, you would have realized that and saved everyone a lot
of trouble. But instead, like a lot of ignorant people, you like to get
on usenet and pop off in front of wiser minds than you seem to realize
even exist. You don't even realize how stupid you look to us. It's so
damned idiotically plain to us and so oblivious to you that you can't even
see it. It would be like expecting you as a flea to comprehend what a dog
is in relation to Volkswagen. That's how much smarter we are than you.
Yes. That breadth of intelligence does exist in the world. There are
some people who are so fucking stupid, they do exactly as they are told
psychically. They are psychic slaves and don't even know it. That's why
the meek inherit the earth. The meek don't realize they have been psychic
slaves /because/ they were meek and just went along with the world just
because they thought that's just the way things were. But now the meek
are waking up, and they can still be meek while knowing what's going on.
It's what's meant in the Bible by being as wise as serpents but as
harmless as doves. Yeah, serpents are perceptive lots, but wise enough to
know that they are really doves perceived as serpents. Demons are your
angels. :D Welcome to the Wicca Newsgroup! :D
Have you been saved?
> Ren - How do I do this? I work with spirits. It is my specialty.
> Ren - I have a mission here and nobody will interfere.
We can say stuff like this seriously and know that some will see us as
silly, some will see us as lunatics, some will see us as knowing what's
up, and then there are people like you who actually take us seriously, but
in such an exact opposite of what we really are that you can't even see
it! It's not even We know who we are and we recognize each other. To
us, it's fuken' hilarious! To you, it's highly offensive!
> (Anyone who can enter other people's dreams can do it whether they like
> it or not, unless the intended victims are accomplished lucid dreamers
> too and are stronger than the person attempting to enter their dreams.
> A skilled lucid dreamer can enter another's dreams without them even
> being aware of it.)
That you even think of dreams in this way is comical. Dreams are
personal. Seeing another person in your dreams does not mean the person
was actually there. Anybody who appears in a dream is nothing but dream
symbolism.
> I could easily post many other examples of "ren" engaging in ammoral
> and/or unethical behavior. If he could enter people's dreams he'd do it
> all the time without a qualm. He's obviously a pathological liar, for
> one thing. I can prove that too.
If it was that obvious, you wouldn't have to prove it. And besides, I've
already said above that you're simply too stupid to tell who's lying and
who's telling the truth, simply because we're all telling the truth. You
just don't believe any of it, so you think we're lying.
> What you are looking at here, with this Damaeus/ren charade, is a cheap
> con game that any troll could pull off. Any youngster with his mommy's
> computer and credit card and some experience on the usenet
True. But your assumption is that you think this is what that is. To us
it's all real. To you it's just some fantasy being played out by a bunch
of lunatics. We know what we are. We know what you aren't. As for me,
I'm not sure if you could even be what we are. I haven't figured out if
some of you people out there are just absolute reflections of ourselves,
our own illusions, not even flesh and blood with souls, but soulless, very
real-feeling hallucinations—challengers to our very existence. Our
masters and commanders. To be free from you, we must free ourselves
through our experience with what we hate most about ourselves and you.
Damaeus
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