Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Fair Prices only

0 views
Skip to first unread message

Night Owl

unread,
Oct 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/8/00
to
Tired of paying $15 for a candle? I offer fair pricing on all my
pharmasutical grade herbs that can be used in potions, brews, or vision
quests. Rarer herbs also carried, and if not, seeds might be procured by
special request. I also offer a variety of essential oils ranging from the
cheap (non perfume grade), to the most exotic (perfume grade). Needing
candles (all kinds), coven size cauldrons (from 7" to 15"), or imported
Italian cystal balls (from 2" to 6")? I got them. Take a look.

http://skeeter1.dyndns.org

--
Never invoke the gods unless you really want them to appear.
It annoys them very much. --

Reverend Joseph Dobransky, "Night Owl"
Rockford, IL
"Ask a Witch" http://skeeter1.dyndns.org
Herbs, Oils, and More
AOL Instant Messenger: skeeter1jd
ICQ Number: 21228143

Jaqueline

unread,
Oct 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/8/00
to
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:13 -0000, Night Owl <highp...@crosswinds.net> wrote:

> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 20:13:28 GMT
> From: Night Owl <highp...@crosswinds.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca, alt.witchcraft
> Subject: Fair Prices only


Never mess with a, Hempster. "Powered by, LINUX!"

Badly formed address, "Javascript".
<Do you play Dungeons and Dragons as badly as well?>

AOL, AIM, ICQ? Oh. Come on... Gimmie a break here!!!
<Must, not be for IE 5 users.>

Send me an Instant Message.
<Yes. One with the Subject: "I LOVE YOU".>

Add me to your Buddy List.
<Ezekiel. This Bud is for, You!!!>

Join my Chat Room.
<What? And, Listen to _you_ Whine???>

Add Remote to Your Page.
<Nope. I like control of "my boyfriend's" Hard Drive.>

Download AOL Instant Messenger.
<They didn't fare too well the last time. *(((CRASH!!!)))*>


--



Unsolicited e-mail is "always welcome"
ISP: <http://www.hemp.net>
(This ain't no AOL)

IRC: skyfire /
port#: 6667 O/////||Jaqueline - Pagan, High Priestess and Witch}
ICQ#: 69575915 \


A.R.W. Photo Page: <http://members.xoom.com/wintershard/photo.html>

If the D.E.A. is looking for Jaqueline, she can be found in her living
room sucking on her Medicine Pipe. Sleep for a little while... Fear
nothing.


chamber

unread,
Oct 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/9/00
to
i'm not stupid enuf to pay bloody $15 for my candle haha if i have $15 at
the end of the week i am stupid unless its what my fokes have given me that
day

Night Owl wrote in message ...

Medic554

unread,
Oct 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/9/00
to
Who's dumb enough to pay $15 for a candle anyway?! There are Wal Mart and
Dollar Stores all over the place that carry candles and candle holders you
know....

"Night Owl" <highp...@crosswinds.net> wrote in message
news:Iz4E5.118625$Qx4.3...@news1.rdc1.il.home.com...

Alexandra Ceelie

unread,
Oct 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/9/00
to
Uh...could someone translate this for me?

=====================================================
=^..^= | The Den Realm - Sidestep the boundaries.
The | http://travel.to/mydenrealm
NetKitten | http://talk.to/netkitten
Alexandra | netk...@netzero.net
Ceelie | UIN#: 1291198
=====================================================

"chamber" <Happy_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uthE5.66916$c5.1...@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...


> i'm not stupid enuf to pay bloody $15 for my candle haha if i have $15 at
> the end of the week i am stupid unless its what my fokes have given me
that
> day
>
> Night Owl wrote in message ...

Alexandra Ceelie

unread,
Oct 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/9/00
to
Coventry Creations makes pre-charged herbal candles with little spell sheets
wrapped around them that sell for around 10 dollars. They have a line that
even has gemstones mixed with the wax. (shrugs) I prefer to use my own herbs
and purchase my candles wholesale but if I ever get a wild hair to shell out
the dough, there are plenty of shopkeepers looking to pad their profit
margin that will, no doubt, accomodate me.

It's the Millennium guys. People pay a lot for
convenience...pre-mixed...boxed and ready to go.

Do they work? Sure. But so do the 12pk Emergency Candles. (they just aren't
as pretty) :)

Do *real* Witches sometimes go for the glitter?
Sure. We're human. We like pretties :)

But then, I also know a few who actually like the neon Kraft Macaroni &
Cheese...
Convenience has it's price...and there is no accounting for taste ;)

=====================================================
=^..^= | The Den Realm - Sidestep the boundaries.
The | http://travel.to/mydenrealm
NetKitten | http://talk.to/netkitten
Alexandra | netk...@netzero.net
Ceelie | UIN#: 1291198
=====================================================

"Medic554" <Medi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:39e1ce63$1...@news2.one.net...


> Who's dumb enough to pay $15 for a candle anyway?! There are Wal Mart and
> Dollar Stores all over the place that carry candles and candle holders you
> know....
>
> "Night Owl" <highp...@crosswinds.net> wrote in message
> news:Iz4E5.118625$Qx4.3...@news1.rdc1.il.home.com...

Alexandra Ceelie

unread,
Oct 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/9/00
to
Crayola's eh?

Just don't drip them on the carpet ;)

=====================================================
=^..^= | The Den Realm - Sidestep the boundaries.
The | http://travel.to/mydenrealm
NetKitten | http://talk.to/netkitten
Alexandra | netk...@netzero.net
Ceelie | UIN#: 1291198
=====================================================

"Ed Ngai" <en...@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
news:39E265F5...@sprintmail.com...
> I have to make my own candles. It's cheaper and I'm poor.
> I got alot of crayola crayons from the swapmeet and I'm
> gonna melt them down w/ some 6" emergency candles.
> And I guess, I can throw in some Shillings herbs ?
>
> Is this ok ? I mean crayola crayons for the color, red
> ones, black ones, I'll make ones that even glitter alot.
>
> Hotdogs, armour hotdogs, the dogs ... oopp, sorry,
> it's dinner time and ...

Ed Ngai

unread,
Oct 9, 2000, 8:38:30 PM10/9/00
to

HY

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 1:24:58 AM10/10/00
to
Alexandra Ceelie wrote:
>
> Crayola's eh?
>
> Just don't drip them on the carpet ;)
>
> =====================================================
> =^..^= | The Den Realm - Sidestep the boundaries.
> The | http://travel.to/mydenrealm
> NetKitten | http://talk.to/netkitten
> Alexandra | netk...@netzero.net
> Ceelie | UIN#: 1291198
> =====================================================
>
> "Ed Ngai" <en...@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
> news:39E265F5...@sprintmail.com...

I have some candles my cousin made me and had coloured with crayon
shavings... TOXIC and hard to breathe and smoky!

Wintershard

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 2:18:51 AM10/10/00
to
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:24:58 GMT, HY <hybi...@home.com> wrote:

>I have some candles my cousin made me and had coloured with crayon
>shavings... TOXIC and hard to breathe and smoky!

Perhaps best used for outdoors only?


Bright be thy day in the sun,
Wintershard
minterra.yahoo.com
ARW photo page: http://members.xoom.com/wintershard/photo.html

HY

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 2:29:10 AM10/10/00
to
Wintershard wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:24:58 GMT, HY <hybi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >I have some candles my cousin made me and had coloured with crayon
> >shavings... TOXIC and hard to breathe and smoky!
>
> Perhaps best used for outdoors only?

I would say it is not a good idea to make this sort of candle at all.

Wintershard

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 2:31:47 AM10/10/00
to

Well, no, but I was referring more for the ones that had already
been made.

Ed Ngai

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
If candles made from craylons are no good, then what's
a good substitute for coloring ?

HY

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
Ed Ngai wrote:
>
> If candles made from craylons are no good, then what's
> a good substitute for coloring ?

Sorry, I can not help you on this topic.

HY

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
Wintershard wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:29:10 GMT, HY <hybi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >Wintershard wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:24:58 GMT, HY <hybi...@home.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I have some candles my cousin made me and had coloured with crayon
> >> >shavings... TOXIC and hard to breathe and smoky!
> >>
> >> Perhaps best used for outdoors only?
> >
> >I would say it is not a good idea to make this sort of candle at all.
>
> Well, no, but I was referring more for the ones that had already
> been made.

They sit as a decoration. Once I tried it, and it was foul black smoke.
Never again will I light it, unless maybe because of some emergency.

Medic554

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
Maybe you can use food coloring?! Anyone know if that works?

"HY" <hybi...@home.com> wrote in message news:39E2BEC9...@home.com...

ba...@digital-marketplace.net

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
Ed Ngai wrote:
>
> If candles made from craylons are no good, then what's
> a good substitute for coloring ?

Did a little search, there are dyes that can be purchased.

From: http://members.iinet.net.au/~campbell1/colours.htm

"I use small candle making dye chips. They come in a packet of 8 chips.
Each chip colours about 1/2 kilo ( 1 pound of wax.)
Use more chips for deeper colours. I think I have seen about 30 shades
for sale, and then you can get endless variety by mixing
them for custom colour making! Dye also comes in liquid form, powder
form and larger cake form and flake form. Chips are
premeasured and make it easier for you to match your colour batches."

There are several places that sell candle dye, I could not find any info
on natural dye.

Alexandra Ceelie

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
I vaguely remember melting them for crafts when I was a kid. Don't remember
fumes or smokey-ness (of course we never made candles with them either...)
We painted the wax on instead of coloring for a glossy look. Heck, we used
to make our little brothers eat the things.

Crayons doesn't always equal Crayolas. Crayolas are non-toxic. (although the
dye they use for red and black seem to stain everything they touch, hehe)
--


=====================================================
=^..^= | The Den Realm - Sidestep the boundaries.
The | http://travel.to/mydenrealm
NetKitten | http://talk.to/netkitten
Alexandra | netk...@netzero.net
Ceelie | UIN#: 1291198
=====================================================

"HY" <hybi...@home.com> wrote in message news:39E2A71B...@home.com...

chamber

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
what do you need translated?

alex
icq - 43549246
yahoo - chamber_babe_666

Alexandra Ceelie wrote in message
<8rtfis$in04u$1...@ID-49290.news.cis.dfn.de>...


>Uh...could someone translate this for me?
>

>=====================================================
> =^..^= | The Den Realm - Sidestep the boundaries.
> The | http://travel.to/mydenrealm
>NetKitten | http://talk.to/netkitten
>Alexandra | netk...@netzero.net
> Ceelie | UIN#: 1291198
>=====================================================
>

>"chamber" <Happy_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:uthE5.66916$c5.1...@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
>> i'm not stupid enuf to pay bloody $15 for my candle haha if i have $15 at
>> the end of the week i am stupid unless its what my fokes have given me
>that
>> day
>>
>> Night Owl wrote in message ...

Kaleidiscope

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
Medi...@hotmail.com (Medic554) whispered in the faerie's
language:

>Maybe you can use food coloring?! Anyone know if that works?

I've tried food coloring, by the time you get enough in to get
a decent colour, you've spent more than you would have on
dyes. It's so-so to use if you have nothing else and are
looking for a nice pastel. The ink I bought for a failed
attempt at Calligraphy worked alright though.

Kaleidiscope.
--
~~~~~~~
"I can't see the thief that lives inside of your head, but I
can be some courage at the side of your bed. And I don't know
what's happening, and I can't pretend."
--Our Lady Peace, "Thief"

Witchcraft

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
To anyone who wants to colour their own candles.
Lewiscraft (in Canada, and I believe in the U.S.) sells small bottles of
liquid candle dye. They carry their own brand. Also scents. Very deep
colours only need a drop or two, and they are very cheap. I just bought 11
bottles at a dollar forty-five (Can.) each.

"Medic554" <Medi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:39e2ecfd$1...@news2.one.net...

Medic554

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
How about Dragon's Blood Ink? :) Just a thought.

"Cardinal Fang" <ho...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ltb7uss27a7kaofi5...@4ax.com...


> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:35:52 GMT, kaleidisc...@NOSPAMyahoo.com
> (Kaleidiscope) wrote:
>
> >Medi...@hotmail.com (Medic554) whispered in the faerie's
> >language:
> >

> >>Maybe you can use food coloring?! Anyone know if that works?
> >

> >I've tried food coloring, by the time you get enough in to get
> >a decent colour, you've spent more than you would have on
> >dyes. It's so-so to use if you have nothing else and are
> >looking for a nice pastel. The ink I bought for a failed
> >attempt at Calligraphy worked alright though.
>

> According to the "Candlemaker's Companion", the best way to color your
> candles is to use aniline dyes, which are soluble in waxes and oils.
>
> However, the author does recommend some natural ingrediants as well:
> herb leaves, beets, onion skins, coffee grounds, and curry powders.
> Apparently the candle coloring must be oil soluble, so you can't use
> water or alcohol to extract the color from the plant material. Steep
> the vegetable matter in oil or melted wax and expect relatively pastel
> colors.
>
> And a note regarding crayons: "Crayons, lipstick, and oil paints are
> made of pigments that can clog a candle's wick while
> burning....However, if faced with a situation where you must use these
> colorants, limit them to an overdip, or outer layer, since this wax
> will barely contact the wick."
>
>
>
> >
> >Kaleidiscope.
>
> Cardinal Fang ho...@earthlink.net
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lead me not to temptation, I enjoy finding it myself.

rmw

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/10/00
to
Hi All,

you can buy candle wax dyes as powder or as a disc along with any thing else
that you will require to make candles . you are better to make your own as
you can make them to the size and type that you reguire, and at less cost.
the place that I use is.
candle makers supplies,
28 blythe road,
london w14 0ha.
tel : 0171 602 4031 / 2
fax 0171 602 2796

hope this helps.
Richard M. Watkin.

Ed Ngai wrote in message <39E2C02E...@sprintmail.com>...

Cardinal Fang

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 8:04:46 PM10/10/00
to
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:24:58 GMT, HY <hybi...@home.com> wrote:

Looking at this thread makes me realize I need to boot myself harder
to start making my own candles. I've been saving my wax from
store-bought candles for two years just for such an event (well, most
of it, anyway). The expensive, 2 bucks a pop votive kind.

HY

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 8:14:17 PM10/10/00
to
Alexandra Ceelie wrote:
>
> Crayons doesn't always equal Crayolas. Crayolas are non-toxic. (although the
> dye they use for red and black seem to stain everything they touch, hehe)

Good point, and very true. All crayons are not Crayola. When they say
non toxic.. do they mean when they are burned?

Cardinal Fang

unread,
Oct 10, 2000, 8:17:06 PM10/10/00
to
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:35:52 GMT, kaleidisc...@NOSPAMyahoo.com
(Kaleidiscope) wrote:

>Medi...@hotmail.com (Medic554) whispered in the faerie's
>language:
>
>>Maybe you can use food coloring?! Anyone know if that works?
>
>I've tried food coloring, by the time you get enough in to get
>a decent colour, you've spent more than you would have on
>dyes. It's so-so to use if you have nothing else and are
>looking for a nice pastel. The ink I bought for a failed
>attempt at Calligraphy worked alright though.

According to the "Candlemaker's Companion", the best way to color your
candles is to use aniline dyes, which are soluble in waxes and oils.

However, the author does recommend some natural ingrediants as well:
herb leaves, beets, onion skins, coffee grounds, and curry powders.
Apparently the candle coloring must be oil soluble, so you can't use
water or alcohol to extract the color from the plant material. Steep
the vegetable matter in oil or melted wax and expect relatively pastel
colors.

And a note regarding crayons: "Crayons, lipstick, and oil paints are
made of pigments that can clog a candle's wick while
burning....However, if faced with a situation where you must use these
colorants, limit them to an overdip, or outer layer, since this wax
will barely contact the wick."

>
>Kaleidiscope.

Cardinal Fang ho...@earthlink.net

Wintershard

unread,
Oct 11, 2000, 2:21:38 AM10/11/00
to
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:06:38 GMT, HY <hybi...@home.com> wrote:

>They sit as a decoration. Once I tried it, and it was foul black smoke.
>Never again will I light it, unless maybe because of some emergency.

Be careful that such a mindset does not cause the object that was
given as a gift to harbor such energies that the mindset promotes.

I would tend to think of it, instead, as a set of candles that are
a blessing from the person that you received it from, and sit as a
reminder of the kindness that was bestowed upon you and can be shared
from one person to another.

Then, should there come a time when you need to use them for an
extreme case, take it that you are giving the sacrifice of that
reminder which you cared of in order to get through the ordeal that
occurred to make such necessary.

An idle thought.

HY

unread,
Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
to
Wintershard wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:06:38 GMT, HY <hybi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >They sit as a decoration. Once I tried it, and it was foul black smoke.
> >Never again will I light it, unless maybe because of some emergency.
>
> Be careful that such a mindset does not cause the object that was
> given as a gift to harbor such energies that the mindset promotes.

I have no such feelings. She tried to make me something pretty, that she
thought I would like. I appreciate her gift. Although, it is used as an
ornament.

> Then, should there come a time when you need to use them for an
> extreme case, take it that you are giving the sacrifice of that
> reminder which you cared of in order to get through the ordeal that
> occurred to make such necessary.
>
> An idle thought.

Thank you for the thought/warning. I understand completely what you
mean.

Ed Ngai

unread,
Oct 11, 2000, 9:12:07 PM10/11/00
to
Merry Meet, I was just about to go look in the local
library about candle making. Someone else at work also
said crayons are a big no no, poisonous. Got it, bad.
Someone mention using oil as an extraction medium, which
makes sense, a candle is a was and you'd want to use
a dye that was oil based, and not water based. I guess
you could take flowers you really like, and get the
essence of the flowers oils and use that to scent candles.

I wonder, to make a jet black candle, I'd take a lump of
charcoal, hammer it till it's a powder and mix it in w/
the candle wax.

more later
Ed

Ed Ngai

unread,
Oct 11, 2000, 9:14:28 PM10/11/00
to
Medic554 wrote:
> Maybe you can use food coloring?! Anyone know if that works?

> > Ed Ngai wrote:
> > > If candles made from craylons are no good, then what's
> > > a good substitute for coloring ?

Hi Medic554 , Someone mentioned that food coloring is water
based. And candles are a wax, an organic, carbon based.
So you want to use like oil based inks ? Something that
will mix well w/ wax.

Wintershard

unread,
Oct 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/12/00
to
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:12:07 GMT, Ed Ngai <en...@sprintmail.com>
wrote:

>I wonder, to make a jet black candle, I'd take a lump of
>charcoal, hammer it till it's a powder and mix it in w/
>the candle wax.

Wouldn't this interfere with the wick, or at least make it smoke
more than usual?

Ed Ngai

unread,
Oct 12, 2000, 8:47:55 PM10/12/00
to
Wintershard wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:12:07 GMT, Ed Ngai <en...@sprintmail.com>
> wrote:

> >I wonder, to make a jet black candle, I'd take a lump of
> >charcoal, hammer it till it's a powder and mix it in w/
> >the candle wax.

> Wouldn't this interfere with the wick, or at least make it
> smoke more than usual?

I have no idea, I havn't tried making one yet.

HY

unread,
Oct 23, 2000, 12:27:43 AM10/23/00
to

Hey Ed.
My own experience.

I have used some white candles that had some very tiny charcoal bits
stuck to the outside. I sort of brushed it off the candle and then used
it....... I did not like the feeling. Whether the feeling was in my
mind, or from the tainted candle, it was just not right to me.

However I do like to use black candles once in a while.

I am not saying, that a candle dyed by your description, would not be
appropriate feeling. If the intent was for a black candle, perhaps it
would feel good.

I do know, that the candle wax burns differently then the charcoal, and
melts must faster, in the area of the little tiny bits of charcoal.
Leaving the candle melting down in one part more then the other, and
causing instability in the candle.

I wonder how a whole candle made in this manner would work.

Be a neat experiment.

0 new messages