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Sid0059

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Mar 6, 2001, 2:20:34 PM3/6/01
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Bonjour tout le monde.
Je cherche des Wiccas français (es) pour correspondre et échanger nos idées.
J'ai 30 ans, suis marié avec 2 adorables filles.
Je suis un pratiquant solitaire.

pour me contacter: dyp...@aol.com

Blessed Be

Chovhani

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Mar 6, 2001, 3:18:26 PM3/6/01
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Salutations du Canada! Je suis réellement un anglophone mais je suis très
intéressé à se renseigner sur Wicca en France. Si vous pouvez tolérer mon
français faible, svp contactez-moi à chov...@india.com

--
Melanie
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http://earthhome.tripod.com

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St. Jarna

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Mar 6, 2001, 7:17:12 PM3/6/01
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I have found out my 4 years of French in high school paid off enough to
allow me to read these posts, but I have lost the ability to converse in
anything other than reciting the days of the week, or possibly conjugating a
few irregular verbs.
I would be interested in hearing a French point of view on Wicca....

-resigned to lurker status

St. Jarna

misha

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Mar 6, 2001, 9:19:19 PM3/6/01
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"St. Jarna" wrote:

i know *just* how you feel, dude.

<sigh> i think its a sign that its time for me to go back to school.

-- misha


Sah'aquiel

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Mar 7, 2001, 1:05:42 AM3/7/01
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Bonjour!
Il y a beaucoup des gens qui parlent francais en ici, et des qui sont
francais(e)s. Mais je veux savoir, pourquoi il n'y a pas un ensemble comme
cette en francais? Alors, bienvenue - pendant il y a beaucoup des gens qui
ne parlent pas francais ici, il y ont assez lui parler.
Alors - a sujet de moi - je ne suis pas francais (peut-etre vous l'avez
devine? Desolee pour mon francaise horrible - j'espere vous me comprendez!)
mais je suis australien. Je suis plus jeunes de la plupart des gens ici,
mais plus vieux des autres... Je suis un solitaire, et vraiment je ne sais
pas quelle tradition je practice, alors j'assume je suis un eclectique!
Alors j'espere vous trouvez beaucoup des Wiccas qui parlent francais ici -
ils le parle mieux a moi, je devinerais...

A bientot,
Sah'aquiel

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email, and it was good

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shuelsebus

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Mar 7, 2001, 5:38:48 AM3/7/01
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hi there, french mate !

my french language skills are just good enough to guess, that there might be
wiccans lurking in france.
wonderful, welcom to the european witches community.

i'd like to know more about what you people do ... if possible in a language, i
can understand, that would be english (you guessed that, didn't you ?), dutch
(nederlands) or german (deutsch, but, nobody speaks german anyway).

sven

Chovhani

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Mar 7, 2001, 8:56:06 AM3/7/01
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Entschuldigen Sie mich, durchaus Menge von uns sprechen Deutsch!

For the believer no evidence is necessary for the nonbeliever none is
possible

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misha

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Mar 7, 2001, 12:45:22 PM3/7/01
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shuelsebus wrote:

> hi there, french mate !
>
> my french language skills are just good enough to guess, that there might be
> wiccans lurking in france.
> wonderful, welcom to the european witches community.
>
> i'd like to know more about what you people do ... if possible in a language, i
> can understand, that would be english (you guessed that, didn't you ?), dutch
> (nederlands) or german (deutsch, but, nobody speaks german anyway).
>
> sven
>

ich kann ziemlich gut deutsch sprechen ... oder, ich glaube so .. vielleicht wir
koennen einen neuen Zwirn begonnen? ..
ich habe ein paar Jahre bei der Uni gelernt, und ich lerne wirklich immer weiter
...
wir koennen unterhalten, und ich kann ueben ... was denkst du?

tschuessle
misha

<geschnitt>

misha

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Mar 7, 2001, 12:57:07 PM3/7/01
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Frenchy wrote:

> X-No-Archive:yes

<snip>

> You know, there's nothing quite like the Internet to learn a new
> language...I took only three years of French in high school and was not
> always very good about practicing it over the years (of course, there was
> precious little opportunity before the Net). If you really want a good
> refresher course, buy yourself a good beginner's book and then start talking
> to Frenchies (I mean the natives, not me ;) on IRC, on a mailing list,
> whatever. I've found everyone is pretty tolerant of someone who tries to
> make herself understood yet who is clearly not a native speaker. Kinda how
> most English-speakers tend to be with non-native English speakers...
>
> Frenchy, who always keeps her handy-dandy French-English dictionary
> nearby...

i've only had one year at university ... and i've forgotten most of it .. so i
can understand most of what i read, but cant regurgitate anything ... one of the
universities near me offers an accelerated french over the summer, so i may take
that this year as kindof a refresher course.

as far as internet goes, i've just had bad luck finding francophones on the web
.. maybe you could reccommend a couple places?

-- misha
<rest snipped>


vicky

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Mar 7, 2001, 1:33:38 PM3/7/01
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Ich spercken kleine deutsch!!!
I speak a little german!!!(sp)

3 yrs learning german & thats about all i can say!!!!!!!

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vicky

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Mar 7, 2001, 1:33:28 PM3/7/01
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Eh bien je suis toutefois à école,& fait GCSE français afin que si en des
Français personnes dans ce groupe ont des gosses qui peuvent parler (peu de)
anglais donc j'aimerais un copain du stylo.

Well I'm still at school, & doing GCSE French so if any of the french people
in this group have kids who can speak (little) english then I would love a
pen pal.
Vikki

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Chovhani

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Mar 7, 2001, 2:18:42 PM3/7/01
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You are obviously studying in a British school:)

(I got an A in "O" Level German in 1979, then went to work in Austria and
discovered my inadequacies!!!)

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vicky

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Mar 7, 2001, 8:12:00 PM3/7/01
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<snip>

> You are obviously studying in a British school:)
<snip>
what makes you say that????

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Alice Cabane

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Mar 8, 2001, 3:52:29 AM3/8/01
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Wieso denn?:) Ich bin gerade im München, wo seid ihr?
:)
Alice

Chovhani

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Mar 8, 2001, 10:33:25 AM3/8/01
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It was, in part, a flippant remark based on my own experience of getting a
very poor education there. We then left England so our children could be
better educated elsewhere, and chose Canada. While I still think Canada's
education system is better, I'm still not satisfied and am now
home-schooling my 4 younger children (the older two are about to graduate
High School).

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possible

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Chovhani

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Mar 8, 2001, 10:37:20 AM3/8/01
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Ich wohne in Kanada, aber ich war in England geboren. Ich erlernte Deutsches
in der Schule (in England) und ging dann, in Österreich zu arbeiten. Ich
entdeckte, daß mein Deutsch sehr falsch war:)

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Aronleigh

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Mar 8, 2001, 2:56:22 PM3/8/01
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I took French in middle school and in Highschool took Latin, but my
relatives came from France so I caught on quick enough to read the posts
here. Also you can go to this site which has been a life saver over the
years when I correspond with French speaking people:

http://world.altavista.com/

Hope that helps!

J'ai pris des Français dans le collège et dans le lycée a pris le latin,
mais mes parents sont venus de France ainsi je me suis propagé assez vite
pour lire les poteaux ici. Également vous pouvez aller à ce site qui a été
un épargnant de la vie au cours des années où je corresponds aux personnes
de langue française: http://world.altavista.com /

Espérez que des aides!

Aronleigh

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vicky

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Mar 8, 2001, 5:05:50 PM3/8/01
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I go to an English grammar school & our GCSE A*- C results (as in all A*- C)
are between 75-97%... you children probably went to some kind of comp. where
its hard enough to get the children to school than it is to teach them...
you can't just a country by one school.

Vikki

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misha

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Alice Cabane wrote:

> Wieso denn?:) Ich bin gerade im München, wo seid ihr?
> :)
> Alice

ich bin aus chicago. höffentlich, ich sparre bald genug Geld um eine Reise nach
Deutschland zu machen. ich möchte lieber während Sommer fahren, weil ich durch
die Bergen wandern will. ...

also, Grüss dich! :)
-- misha

<geschnitt>


Chovhani

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Mar 8, 2001, 6:39:11 PM3/8/01
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Ah, they didn't get that far. We left England when they were 8 and 9
respectively. I went to the non-Grammar school in town. It wasn't as much
grades that was lacking as staff motivation.

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Alice Cabane

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Mar 9, 2001, 3:44:35 AM3/9/01
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Melanie,
That's already pretty good....:D
lb,
Alice

Alice Cabane

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Mar 9, 2001, 3:44:15 AM3/9/01
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Misha,
where are you planning to travel? There are lots of beautiful places
around here!
lb (lumineuses benedictions)
Alice

Chovhani

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Mar 9, 2001, 9:09:18 AM3/9/01
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It's not QUITE that bad, in fact despite the Anglocentric history lessons
they do teach a LITTLE more about the outside world than American schools.
But I know what you mean.

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> > It was, in part, a flippant remark based on my own experience of getting
a
> > very poor education there. We then left England so our children could be
> > better educated elsewhere, and chose Canada. While I still think
Canada's
> > education system is better, I'm still not satisfied and am now
> > home-schooling my 4 younger children (the older two are about to
graduate
> > High School).
>

> An old boyfriend of mine lived in England for seven years when he was a
> child, and he told me that he found the British education system very
> provincial - he said the history they learned was British history, the
> science they learned was British science, the geography was British
> geography - he said if they could have figured out how to teach British
> algebra they would have. ;) Not sure if this is true anymore...
>
> Frenchy
> &*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*
> Religious truths:
> Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
> Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
> Christian faith.
> Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store or at Hooters.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Did you hear about the dyslexic rabbi? He walks around saying, "Yo!"
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Find the cure for the common religion! Deify yourself at Frenchy's
> Weird Religions Home Page: http://www.tftb.com/deify...
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Chovhani

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That's after remedial studies, otherwise known as "you're in Austria now -
LEARN".

It came in useful as a few years later I was at the scene of a traffic
accident in Germany and the police officer attending pretended he knew no
English just so that the German idiot who caused the accident would get
preferential treatment. The English bus driver who was minding his own
business and got cut up by a moron in a sports car (which was the loser in
the altercation) was suddenly a "verrückter Treiber" and I allowed this
mind-blowing bias to go on for a while then summoned up all my courage and
told the police officer in my best German how I had 32 English witnesses
that I was willing to interpret statements for one at a time until done. He
decided he didn't have time for that and let it go.

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misha

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Mar 9, 2001, 11:51:13 AM3/9/01
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well, like i said, i'd want to be someplace that i could go hiking ... so maybe
southern germany or bavaria ... although my family is from rheinland and hamburg, so i
want to go there too -- i have this feeling that i'm not gonna want to come back of
course :)

-- misha

misha

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Chovhani wrote:

> It's not QUITE that bad, in fact despite the Anglocentric history lessons
> they do teach a LITTLE more about the outside world than American schools.
> But I know what you mean.
>
> --
> Melanie

some of that rather depends upon who one's teacher is, the school district, the
parent's board, etc ..

i was fortunate enough to have -- at least in highschool -- several history
teachers who taught things from an anti-propaganda point of view, and literature
teachers who were more into comparative lit than strictly anglophone lit.

but, i would agree that these people do not constitute the majority or the norm
-- and especially so in public schools.

-- misha
<rest snipped>

Baird Stafford

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Chovhani <chov...@india.com> wrote:

> It's not QUITE that bad, in fact despite the Anglocentric history lessons
> they do teach a LITTLE more about the outside world than American schools.
> But I know what you mean.

How things have changed, then, and not for the better.... When I was a
student in the American public school systems, World History, World
Georgraphy and World Literature were courses one was required to have
passed before one was granted a high school diploma. And "Humanities"
courses were also offered that dealt with the cultural developments
(usually music and the plastic arts) leading up to modern society.

Blessed be,
Baird


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Ian

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On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:42:07 CST, ba...@gate.net (Baird Stafford)
wrote:

>How things have changed, then, and not for the better.... When I was a
>student in the American public school systems, World History, World
>Georgraphy and World Literature were courses one was required to have
>passed before one was granted a high school diploma. And "Humanities"
>courses were also offered that dealt with the cultural developments
>(usually music and the plastic arts) leading up to modern society.
>
>Blessed be,
>Baird

Those subjects are still taught in American public schools, Baird.
Don't despair :)

American public education is not in as dire straights as some people
(usually politicians) would want you to believe. But for pols,
education reform is a catch-word that gets them votes.

I honestly think that students today are receiving a better education
than I did (HS grad, 1972). Fortunately, I have always been a
voracious reader, so I was able to fill in the gaps and made it
through university quite well. (Except that to this day, I can't do
more than simple sums). My students (7th and 8th graders) know more
math than I do.

Of course, there are bad schools and bad teachers, but those exist
everywhere. At least in Florida, we are trying to do something about
it. I am a heretic among teachers for advocating the end of automatic
tenure for public school teachers, and for applauding strict
accountability measures. We owe it to the children we teach.

Ian

Shez

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In article <xkYp6.16993$Ok4.2...@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>, Frenchy
<fre...@spam-me-not.com> writes
>X-No-Archive:yes

>
>"Chovhani" <chov...@india.com> wrote in message
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>> It was, in part, a flippant remark based on my own experience of getting a
>> very poor education there. We then left England so our children could be
>> better educated elsewhere, and chose Canada. While I still think Canada's
>> education system is better, I'm still not satisfied and am now
>> home-schooling my 4 younger children (the older two are about to graduate
>> High School).
>
>An old boyfriend of mine lived in England for seven years when he was a
>child, and he told me that he found the British education system very
>provincial - he said the history they learned was British history, the
>science they learned was British science, the geography was British
>geography - he said if they could have figured out how to teach British
>algebra they would have. ;) Not sure if this is true anymore...
>
>Frenchy
>&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*

No they do teach world history, always have done, though obviously they
don't teach American history as they would if you were in an American
School. I have found generally that country's tend to teach their own
history's first and foremost, and then World history.


>Religious truths:
>Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
>Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
>Christian faith.
>Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store or at Hooters.
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Did you hear about the dyslexic rabbi? He walks around saying, "Yo!"
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Find the cure for the common religion! Deify yourself at Frenchy's
>Weird Religions Home Page: http://www.tftb.com/deify...
>Childfree by choice? http://www.tftb.com/childfree
>Respond to frenchy AT tftb DOT com
>&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*
>
>

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www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/

Shez

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In article <3AA897EC...@oracle.com>, Alice Cabane
<orale...@oracle.com> writes

Berlin and the Black forest are great to visit.
>>
>> <geschnitt>

Sah'aquiel

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You're one step better than me, all I can say is 'Das ist mein hamburger'...
But I'm sure I could probably out-Russian a fair few of you...

Sah'aquiel

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-- Vanessa Amarossi

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vicky

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<snip>

> An old boyfriend of mine lived in England for seven years when he was a
> child, and he told me that he found the British education system very
> provincial - he said the history they learned was British history,

Well, until Russia becomes part of Britain, that's NOT true & BTW the
"favourite" topic in history is ROMANS again NOT very British

>the science they learned was British science,

What is British science exactly.... only spelling is different!

>the geography was British geography

See above RE INDIA

>- he said if they could have figured out how to teach British algebra they
would have.

the only difference in maths is again the spelling.


> Not sure if this is true anymore...
>

No it doesn't seem to be does it (!)

Vikki


vicky

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Mar 10, 2001, 9:24:09 AM3/10/01
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Ich gehe ins der MacDos und ich sprecken eins hamburger danke!
(I go into McDonalds & I can say one hamburger thanks!)

I can't speak Russian but it is a (not very popular) choice at school (maybe
cuz its an after school hours lesson!)

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Richard Ballard

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In article <Fmoq6.6512$pR3.1...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
"vicky" <cool...@ntlworld.com> writes:

>>An old boyfriend of mine lived in England for seven years when
>>he was a child, and he told me that he found the British education
>>system very provincial - he said the history they learned was
>>British history,

<snip>

>>the geography was British geography
>
>See above RE INDIA

A proper course on British history and geography would be
global and all-encompassing. There was a time when "The sun
never sets on Britain" was a true maxim because somewhere
on the globe British-controlled territory was in daylight.

I had the opportunity to visit the Tower of London and view the
crowns of the Royal Family. The crown that I found most
impressive was "The Crown of India" -- very large, very elaborate
design, and composed entirely of diamonds. Seeing that
crown gave me a better perspective on British history.

My opinions.

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Spuddie

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On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:58:29 CST looking rather like a Shar-Pei in a
windstorm, Shez <sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk> ushered in an official
hangover by grumbling about the weak coffee and whispered:

>In article <xkYp6.16993$Ok4.2...@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>, Frenchy
><fre...@spam-me-not.com> writes
>>X-No-Archive:yes

>>An old boyfriend of mine lived in England for seven years when he was a


>>child, and he told me that he found the British education system very
>>provincial - he said the history they learned was British history, the
>>science they learned was British science, the geography was British
>>geography - he said if they could have figured out how to teach British
>>algebra they would have. ;) Not sure if this is true anymore...
>>
>>Frenchy
>>&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*
>
>No they do teach world history, always have done, though obviously they
>don't teach American history as they would if you were in an American
>School. I have found generally that country's tend to teach their own
>history's first and foremost, and then World history.
>

Our history classes were set up (at least in middle America in the
70's) such that we would have American History one year, World
History the next year, American Government the year after that, etc.
I had a lame history teacher though, so didn't even realize that I
*liked* history til after I graduated from school. :)

Cheryl
~~~There is only one satisfying way to boot a computer.~~~
(JH Goldfuss)

Sah'aquiel

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Mar 13, 2001, 12:37:01 AM3/13/01
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You get Russian _at school_? I need to do it in free time, which is a real
shame because I don't really have all that much of that...

Your comment reminds me of a story about a couple holidaying in France, and
in Versailles they were driving around and were arguing over the
pronunciation of Versailles. So when they stopped at Burger King and ordered
lunch they said (in French, bien sur) 'Excuse me, but could you pronounce,
very slowly, the name of this place we're in?'
The waiter thinks for a while then replies 'Burrrrrrr-gerrrrrr Kiiiiiing'
Ba doomp ch (that, ladies and gentlemen, is my rendition of the drums and
symbols played after a bad joke on Garfield cartoons)

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Am Dienstag, 6. März 2001 20:26:09 UTC+1 schrieb Sid0059:
> Bonjour tout le monde.
> Je cherche des Wiccas français (es) pour correspondre et échanger nos idées.
> J'ai 30 ans, suis marié avec 2 adorables filles.
> Je suis un pratiquant solitaire.
>
> pour me contacter: dyp...@aol.com
>
> Blessed Be

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