Dvaraka - Krishna's City

[Jahnu]

Evidence of Krishna's city, Dvaraka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHFdtFWrXFM

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[kni...@baawa.com]

On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:02:48 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Evidence of Krishna's city, Dvaraka
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHFdtFWrXFM

Stark raving stupid.

SLAP!

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

[raven1]

On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:02:48 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Evidence of Krishna's city, Dvaraka

The existence of Dvaraka is no more relevant to Krishna existing than
the existence of Atlanta is to Scarlett O'Hara existing.

[Dakota]

Yeah, but, the Wizard of Oz proves that Kansas exists.
:)

[Jahnu]

On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:57:28 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>The existence of Dvaraka is no more relevant to Krishna existing than
>the existence of Atlanta is to Scarlett O'Hara existing.

It's only to be expected it looks like that in your unscientific,
indoctrinated mind :)

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[raven1]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 07:19:42 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:57:28 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>The existence of Dvaraka is no more relevant to Krishna existing than
>>the existence of Atlanta is to Scarlett O'Hara existing.
>
>It's only to be expected it looks like that in your unscientific,
>indoctrinated mind :)

Explain your "reasoning", Jesper. I could use a good laugh.

[Jahnu]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 08:00:11 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>Explain your "reasoning", Jesper. I could use a good laugh.

Reasoning? with you? hahaha :) That'd be like explaining advanced
mathematics to a first grader. But here is some reasoning for someone
with a brain, who might be listening.

Anyone, regardless of his beliefs and convictions, can experience that
he is a constant or eternal observer of existence.

Krishna says:

As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood
to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at
death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change. (Bg. 2.13)

What Krishna is saying here, is that one's body changes all the time
from childhood, to youth, to old age. But the self or the I within,
remains constant. One's mind and intelligence change, sure. You are
are supposed to grow wiser with age. One's thoughts, feelings,
willpower, and convictions change as time progresses.

But it is the same I-feeling, who experience all these changes. It is
the same observer. The person stays the same despite the altercations
in matter.

That is the eternal soul. It is the same person, or the same soul who
sits in a child's body as the one who sits in the old man's body. The
person didn't change, in the sense that he is the same observer. His
thoughts and feelings and intelligence changed, but he remained the
same soul. In this way anyone can experience his own eternality.

It's a question of absorption - either one is absorped in matter,
which is in constant change. One is absorped in his thoughts,
feelings, and will. Or one is absorped in one's eternal self. That
means, one is absorped in observing one's thoughts, feelings, and
will. IOW one is absorped in his own consciousness.

That is a choice one has. And one's choice will be determined by the
way one is controlled by matter. When one's choice is motivated by the
desire to become FREE from matter, then one begins his spiritual
journey back home, back to Godhead.

Krishna says:

A person who is not disturbed by the incessant flow of desires - that
enter like rivers into the ocean, which is ever being filled but is
always still - can alone achieve peace, and not the man who strives to
satisfy such desires. (Bg 2.70)

A person who has given up all desires for sense gratification, who
lives free from desires, who has given up all sense of proprietorship
and is devoid of false ego - he alone can attain real peace. (Bg 2.71)

That is the way of the spiritual and godly life, after attaining which
a man is not bewildered. If one is thus situated even at the hour of
death, one can enter into the kingdom of God. (Bg 2.72)

[raven1]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 14:09:43 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 May 2013 08:00:11 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Explain your "reasoning", Jesper. I could use a good laugh.
>
>Reasoning?

Your inability to reply is duly noted, Jesper, as is your projection.
Try again; you're not fooling anyone.

[kni...@baawa.com]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 14:09:43 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip mindless drivel

>Krishna says:

Knucklehead, if atheist do not believe in god(s) then why would we
give a shit about what your holy book says? Prove your god exists
without using circular reasoning, i.e. quoting your holy book. You can
be the first person in history to do so.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

[Jahnu]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 06:36:38 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:

> Knucklehead, if atheist do not believe in god(s) then why would we
>give a shit about what your holy book says?

These quotes show that great thinkers, philosophers and poets down
through history have been impressed and inspired by Bhagavad Gita,
making you look like the coarse, uneducated fool, you are :)

>Prove your god exists
>without using circular reasoning, i.e. quoting your holy book. You can
>be the first person in history to do so.

Prove to you? hahaha :) The last thing you want is proof of God. To
the discerning eye, the whole world is proof of God. Who but a
complete idiot would suggest that the world created itself out of a
bunch of chemicals? Of course, due to sheer envy, intellectually
crippled people like you, can't see the obvious, thus verifying the
Vedic Version, that the soul fell down from the spiritual world due to
envy of Krishna.

You are like someone looking at Mona Lisa:

---but, but no one made this painting, it made itself by accident.
Leonardo Davinci doesn't exist. wah, wah, prove to me Leonardo Davinci
exists.

Krishna says:

Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness
of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from
doubt. (Bg 7.1)

[raven1]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:46:29 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 May 2013 06:36:38 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>
>> Knucklehead, if atheist do not believe in god(s) then why would we
>>give a shit about what your holy book says?
>
>These quotes show that great thinkers, philosophers and poets down
>through history have been impressed and inspired by Bhagavad Gita,

<facepalm>

No, they don't. They're quotes from the Bhagavad-Gita itself, with a
brief explanation of one. Do you even read what you write, Jesper?

>making you look like the coarse, uneducated fool, you are :)

Considering that you just made one of your usual comical fuck-ups that
shows you weren't paying the slightest attention, you might want to
refrain from using that word against others, fool...

>>Prove your god exists
>>without using circular reasoning, i.e. quoting your holy book. You can
>>be the first person in history to do so.
>
>Prove to you? hahaha :)

Yes. Can't do it, can you?

>The last thing you want is proof of God.

Oh stick it in your ear, Jesper. You know damned well that you can't
provide any, so you'll make every possible excuse for not doing so.
You're no different from any Fundamentalist Christian here in that
respect.

> To
>the discerning eye, the whole world is proof of God.

How would you know that?

>Who but a
>complete idiot would suggest that the world created itself out of a
>bunch of chemicals?

No one suggests that. Who but a complete idiot would claim that anyone
does?

> Of course, due to sheer envy,

Envy of what?

> intellectually
>crippled people like you,

ROTFLMFAO! Jesper, seriously, where are you getting this from? Your
delusions that you are even intellectually adequate are quite
astounding, much less that you are capable of judging the intellectual
capacity of others. Even if you hadn't been brainwashed into Hare
Rama-Lama-Ding-Dong Land by your cult, you'd still face the twin
problems of being as dumb as a stump, and just as ignorant, that you
faced before you joined ISKCON.

[kni...@baawa.com]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:46:29 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 May 2013 06:36:38 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>
>> Knucklehead, if atheist do not believe in god(s) then why would we
>>give a shit about what your holy book says?
>
>These quotes show that great thinkers, philosophers and poets down
>through history have been impressed and inspired by Bhagavad Gita,
>making you look like the coarse, uneducated fool, you are :)
>

It's religious bullshit not 'great thinkers'. A 'great thinker'
would never buy into a faith based cult simply because there is no
evidence to support it's claim.

You bought into the religious bullshit because you're weak and
afraid of death. That's nothing but your ego taking hold of your life.
You think you're so special you can't/shouldn't die.

>>Prove your god exists
>>without using circular reasoning, i.e. quoting your holy book. You can
>>be the first person in history to do so.
>
>Prove to you? hahaha :) The last thing you want is proof of God. To
>the discerning eye, the whole world is proof of God.

You're really fucked up. Your reality is so myopic, so limited to
empirical information you can't see pass your 'holy' book, just like
the christians. You use tired, stale religious dogma to support your
lunacy. You have nothing fresh or even a new sheet of paper to offer,
just boring, repetitious, 'someone says'.

The reality of our day to day existence is exactly as if a god
doesn't exist.

Prove me wrong.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

[Jahnu]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 14:04:19 -0400, raven1 squawked:

>No, they don't. They're quotes from the Bhagavad-Gita itself, with a
>brief explanation of one. Do you even read what you write, Jesper?

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Geeta. It was the first of
books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which
in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same
questions which exercise us." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

[Jahnu]

On Thu, 16 May 2013 20:32:26 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:

> It's religious bullshit not 'great thinkers'. A 'great thinker'
>would never buy into a faith based cult simply because there is no
>evidence to support it's claim.

How would you know, bozo? You wouldn't know evidence if it fell on
your head...

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as if an empire

spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent,
the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."

-- Ralph Waldo Emerson The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his
Vedanta ecstasy.

[raven1]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:08:24 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 May 2013 14:04:19 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>
>>No, they don't. They're quotes from the Bhagavad-Gita itself, with a
>>brief explanation of one. Do you even read what you write, Jesper?
>
>"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Geeta. It was the first of
>books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy,
>but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which
>in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same
>questions which exercise us." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Posting a quote from Emerson after the fact doesn't change the fact
that you fucked up royally as usual, Jesper. Do you really think
anyone is fooled by your pathetic attempts at distraction? Or that
anyone should care about Emerson's opinion?

[Jahnu]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:12:37 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>Posting a quote from Emerson after the fact doesn't change the fact
>that you fucked up royally as usual, Jesper. Do you really think
>anyone is fooled by your pathetic attempts at distraction? Or that
>anyone should care about Emerson's opinion?

But we should care about yours?... some loser on usenet with the
historical perspective of a fly, and we should listen to you instead
of Emerson?

---but, but I'm an educated person, I went to a prestigious
university...

hahaha :) That's actually funny :)


"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal
philosophy of the Bhagavad Geeta, in comparison with which our modern
world and its literature seem puny and trivial." - Henry David
Thoreau

[raven1]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 18:10:30 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:12:37 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Posting a quote from Emerson after the fact doesn't change the fact
>>that you fucked up royally as usual, Jesper. Do you really think
>>anyone is fooled by your pathetic attempts at distraction? Or that
>>anyone should care about Emerson's opinion?
>
>But we should care about yours?... some loser on usenet with the
>historical perspective of a fly, and we should listen to you instead
>of Emerson?

Why listen to either of us? Learn to think for yourself, schmuck.
You're so addled from years of brainwashing that you've forgotten how,
if you ever knew in the first place.

[Jahnu]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:29:34 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>Why listen to either of us? Learn to think for yourself, schmuck.
>You're so addled from years of brainwashing that you've forgotten how,
>if you ever knew in the first place.

Like you are thinking for yourself? hahaha :) You don't have so much
as a single original, independent thought, in that bird scull of
yours. If you didn't have TV, newpapers and magazines to tell you what
to think and believe, you'd be in deep shit...

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[raven1]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 18:38:53 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:29:34 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Why listen to either of us? Learn to think for yourself, schmuck.
>>You're so addled from years of brainwashing that you've forgotten how,
>>if you ever knew in the first place.
>
>Like you are thinking for yourself?

Yes, actually. I know you find that shocking, since you gave it up
when you joined your cult, but you might try it once in a while. Of
course, that would also involve your recognizing that pretty much
everything your cult has told you about history and science is
preposterous nonsense that has no connection to the actual topics.

[Jahnu]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:58:36 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>Yes, actually. I know you find that shocking, since you gave it up
>when you joined your cult, but you might try it once in a while.Of
>course, that would also involve your recognizing that pretty much
>everything your cult has told you about history and science is
>preposterous nonsense that has no connection to the actual topics.

You obviously don't have a wife you can bicker with :)

Sitting alone all day in your little cubicle yapping away on usenet.
No wonder you are so miserable.


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[raven1]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 04:51:35 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:58:36 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, actually. I know you find that shocking, since you gave it up
>>when you joined your cult, but you might try it once in a while.Of
>>course, that would also involve your recognizing that pretty much
>>everything your cult has told you about history and science is
>>preposterous nonsense that has no connection to the actual topics.
>
>You obviously don't have a wife you can bicker with :)

We're both atheists, so we don't bicker much. Where's your wife,
Jesper? Oh, wait, I know the answer to that...

---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight

[Jahnu]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:08:31 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>We're both atheists, so we don't bicker much. Where's your wife,
>Jesper? Oh, wait, I know the answer to that...

Right, so that's why you have to hang out in the biggest assemply
place for crows in the world to find someone to bicker with :)

squawk squawk went Birdy.

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu#5867059073786316706

[Ken]

Evidence of the origin of Jahnu's INSANITY

Jahnuts waz axed: Did you have experiences with psychedelic drugs at
that time?


"I did.I hung out with the
freaks :) I guess, because it was the midwest, they called hippies
freaks :)
Apart from that, psychedelic drugs naturally give experiences of what
seem to be other dimensions"

[Jahnu]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 07:19:17 -0700 (PDT), Ken <flak...@aol.com>
wrote:

>I waz axed: Did I have experiences with psychedelic drugs at
>that time?

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu#5852504589984828354

[Ken]

Jahnuts..A doped up moron

[Jahnu]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT), Ken <flak...@aol.com>
wrote:

>I'm a doped up moron

https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu#5851872989022048418

[Ken]

Apparently krishnaw allows his followers to LIE and make up BULLCRAP
about people they don't even know

Jahnuts waz axed: Did you have experiences with psychedelic drugs at
that time?

His reply:

[raven1]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 15:44:12 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 May 2013 09:08:31 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>We're both atheists, so we don't bicker much. Where's your wife,
>>Jesper? Oh, wait, I know the answer to that...
>
>Right, so that's why you have to hang out in the biggest assemply
>place for crows in the world to find someone to bicker with

"Bickering" implies that you have a case to present. Let me know when
that ever happens, Jesper.

[Jahnu]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:14:06 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>"Bickering" implies that you have a case to present. Let me know when
>that ever happens, Jesper.

Krishna says:

Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness
of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from
doubt. (Bg 7.1)

[raven1]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:03:53 +0200, Jahnu <jahn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:14:06 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>"Bickering" implies that you have a case to present. Let me know when
>>that ever happens, Jesper.
>
>Krishna says:

*Yawn*. Guess I won't hold my breath waiting.

[Jahnu]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 10:38:46 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>*Yawn*. Guess I won't hold my breath waiting.

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