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Satyahit about bogus paintings "samkirtana"

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Jul 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/28/00
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SD: Foul foul language !..Tisk tisk ! Foul play .. When a devotee
acts under the direction of his leaders he or she is not to blame for
selling oil paintings.

[PADA: Bhakti marga is a leader. And he is selling them, so he is to
blame. You admit. he is one of the scoundrels who says that selling
oil paintings is samkirtana. Crap. Scam-kirtana.]

SD: ..And they are not "crap"..Many of them dipict the beautiful
scenery of the Lords creation,& people like to see that in their homes
in nice frames..

[PADA: And the devotees sell them as starving local artists when they
are from Hong Kong. Liars. And you support these liars. More crap
cheating. And this is samkirtana? Crap. Scam-kirtana.]

SD: As devotee's we see the Lords Beauty everywhere,so we keep pics of
our guru, pure devotee's, & the various forms of the Lord in our
homes,so we are reminded of the personality of Godhead & His highly
exalted reps...

[PADA: And the GBC used the painting money for themselves and starved
the kids. More crap. More scams.]

SD: The candles were made & still are by devotee house holders in
order to support themselves & work independant of the karmi world's
bosses.. But Puranjana i agree that ISKCON was much more fun & Krsna
dependant when we simply went out on hari nam with BTG's & chanting in
our outfits..

[PADA: So why is the sannyasi sector doing that? Vishnujana went to
preach, that is what the sannyasis do, not sell cheating cheap crap to
fool the public....]

SD: 1969..Then it was clear that all our nessesities came from the
Lord..Even as travelling bramacharis our gasoline was donated..We
would beg for $5 here & there until tanky was full..or so..For bhoga
we would go to the rear of supermarkets for fruits & vegetables &
again there was so much that we had enough to prepeare feasts in the
open parks, hold kirtan,attract people & sell krsna books..etc..Those
were the days..

[PADA: That is what these sannyasis should do, revive the preaching.]

SD: I always felt that depending on the Lords mercy was less
complicated & much more fun...But as you know many of us became hosue
holders & still are entangled in this way so off to work we went with
paintings,or candles & books ..
Satyahit das

try to watch your "crap" & "shit" language Puranjana ..it does nothing
to add to your credibilty..Try to think of other words to use when
these simple images/words come to mind..Its not hard & it will improve
youir writting

[PADA: Well, Bhaktimarga supports the homosexual pedophile guru
lineage, and they will be very lucky to take birth in a piece of crap.
That will be very advanced for them.]
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Ron & Keli Conroy

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Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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I sold oil paintings for over 5 years & never once "lied" about their
source..Even if they asked,"what about the english artists name ,I told them
it was like a pen name,which it was..I said they were painted in Korea or
Hong Kong by professional artists..& even that sometimes more than one
artist may work on a painting..In 6/7 years of selling oil paintings I lost
one sale.. which i only vaguely remember.. I may not have.I felt fine about
saying where they were from & sold lots..with nice oak frames...I
strecthed,framed & often hung them myself in the peoples homes..
Satyahit das
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:09:12 GMT, "Ron & Keli Conroy"
<chai...@home.com> wrote:

>I sold oil paintings for over 5 years & never once "lied" about their
>source..Even if they asked,"what about the english artists name ,I told them
>it was like a pen name,which it was..

That is the problem, you are not everyone else. Most of the devotees
selling them in the Bay Area not only lied, they had a bogus
certificate of authenticity. And what about the ladies who were sent
into topless bars to collect money? Thse is you GBC pal's party idea
of samkirtana, but it is not mine. Sorry we disagree. ys pd

Ron & Keli Conroy

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Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
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Even some devotee's hung some of these paintings in their homes ..
Srila Prabhupada never taught us to lie to anyone
So we agree ..Things done honestly are ok for house holders etc..Work done
dis honestly is cheating..A devotee is straight forward & honest..Anything
opposed to this is against Srila Prabhupada's instutions for honest life..
Our local non ISKCON temple sells Hari Bars ,which is a ladhu in a bag with
wrapper containing the ingrediants & address of temple.. Along with ladhu
they also sell books of course..This is the temple started by Dhutidhar
swami/maharaj..
Bhakti Marga also visits & stays there ..
The only discrepancy we noticed is when the president sat in the van doing
japa while the others are on the street selling books & bars..on Salt Spring
island..
The president should lead the others by example..on sankirtan & book
distribution
Satyahit das
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