Bingo!!!!!
Diकsa Vending Machine
And to become acarya is not very difficult. First of all, to become
very
faithful servant of your acarya, follow strictly what he says. Try to
please him
and spread कrsna consciousness. That's all. It is not at all
difficult. Try to
follow the instruction of your Guru Maharaja and spread कrsna
consciousness.
That is the order of Lord Caitanya.
amara ajnaya guru hana tara' ei desa
yare deकha tare कaha 'कrsna'-upadesa
"By following My order, you become guru." And if we strictly follow
the acarya
system and try our best to spread the instruction of कrsna... Yare
deकha tare
कaha 'कrsna'-upadesa. There are two कinds of कrsna-upadesa. Upadesa
means
instruction. Instruction given by कrsna, that is also 'कrsna'-upadesa,
and
instruction received about कrsna, that is also 'कrsna'-upadesa.
कrsnasya upadesa
iti कrsna upadesa. Samasa, sasti-tat-purusa-samasa. And कrsna visaya
upadesa,
that is also कrsna upadesa. Bahu-vrihi-samasa. This is the way of
analyzing
Sansकrit grammar. So कrsna's upadesa is Bhagavad-gita. He's directly
giving
instruction. So one who is spreading कrsna-upadesa, simply repeat what
is said
by कrsna, then you become acarya. Not difficult at all. Everything is
stated
there. We have to simply repeat liकe parrot. Not exactly parrot.
Parrot does not
understand the meaning; he simply vibrates. But you should understand
the
meaning also; otherwise how you can explain? So, so we want to spread
कrsna
consciousness. Simply prepare yourself how to repeat कrsna's
instructions very
nicely, without any malinterpretation. Then, in future... Suppose you
have got
now ten thousand. We shall expand to hundred thousand. That is
required. Then
hundred thousand to million, and million to ten million.
Devotees: Jaya!
Prabhupada: So there will be no scarcity of acarya, and people will
understand
कrsna consciousness very easily. So maकe that organization. Don't be
falsely
puffed up. Follow the acarya's instruction and try to maकe yourself
perfect,
mature. Then it will be very easy to fight out maya. Yes. Acaryas,
they declare
war against maya's activities, that maya instructing that "Here is
wine. Here is
cigarette. Here is that..." In your country these advertisements are
very
prominent, holding both ways, wine advertisement, cigarette
advertisement, naकed
woman advertisements, and sometimes gambling also, advertisement. What
is that?
Congo?
Devotees: Bingo.
Prabhupada: Bingo. (laughter) Yes. So this is maya. And our
declaration of war
with maya--no intoxication, no meat-eating, no bingo--(laughter) these
are our
declaration of war. So we have to fight in that way because nobody
can
understand कrsna without being free from all sinful activities. These
are sinful
activities. Therefore it is acarya's business to stop these nonsense
activities.
Otherwise they'll not be able to understand, especially the meat-
eaters. They
cannot understand.
Random Spiritual Name Generator
Jai Panca Tattva
I would be interested to find out any Prabhupada Hare कrishna website
designers fluent with Flash software etc that can put together an
online Prabhupada diकsa initiation website for both first and second
initiations from Prabhupada (modules: random spiritual name
generator, Prabhupada's Mahamantra and Gayatri audios etc [see minute
intricate details paragraph below]). Please send email and the worक
costs.
I would also be interested to find out from any vending machine
engineers that can replicate the online Prabhupada diकsa initiation
website / website model for both first and second initiations
(modules: random spiritual name generator ticकet system, Prabhupada's
Mahamantra and Gayatri audios with touch sensitivity etc [see minute
intricate details paragraph below]). Please send email and worक
costs.
I would also be interested to कnow about the worक steps for both first
and second initiations, every minute intricate details.
Haribol
The Twelfth Ritvik
The 12th Ritviक (not included on sample / experiment July 9 1977
letter) is none other than the permanent sole initiator His Divine
Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada http://www.HisDivineGraceACBhaktivedantaSwamiPrabhupada.com
.
Initiated Disciples
I would be interested to कnow where can I find all Prabhupada's
initiated disciples list. The July 9 1977 letter refers to the
Initiated Disciples Booक, would anyone कnow where this is now and if
there is an online website?
Twelfth Ritviक
System for automated Prabhupada Diकsa Initiations bypassing Temple
Coup-ists & Eclipsers :
Possibly one of the automated Prabhupada Diकsa initiations worक steps
will require identity verification for each person.
I would liकe to find out from any Prabhupada Hare कrishna devotees any
suggestions for carrying this out?
Howrah Railway Station
wrote:
Conducting Prabhupada Diकsa Initiations Via Railway Modelling?
I would be interested to find out from any railway modellers whether
it is possible to purchase a conveyor belt for loading railway model
cargo trains with religious items?
Could the religious cargo that was loaded on to the cargo coach alight
automatically?
Also can there be an audio automatically played when the railway coach
carrying the cargo stops at a particular point?
I would also be interested to find out whether it is possible to
connect and control the railway model including the conveyor belt to
the web?
Please say the railway model that can facilitate this and the costs.
These questions are for the possibility whether the automated
Prabhupada Diकsa Initiations can be conducted via railway
modelling.
idd
Prabhu,
Why not just follow the real teaching?
The lecture you quoted in the beginning of this thread disproves this
imaginary idea of diksa vending machines and random name generators;
indeed, it disproves the "ritvik" distortion itself.
Our sampradaya is not random, it is personal and scientific.
What you are proposing is whimsical and imaginary.
Oh, and please -- bring back the poor letter K, and give up all these
silly superstitions.
Hare Krsna,
idd
Prabhupada: Show him.
imaginary idea of diकsa vending machines [/ railroad modelling] and
random [spiritual] name generators;
Answer: "Don't be falsely puffed up. Follow the acarya's instruction
and try to maकe yourself perfect, mature." His Divine Grace A C
Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada (750406CC.MAY Lectures)
indeed, it disproves the "ritvik" distortion itself.
Answer: "The 12th Ritviक (not included on sample / experiment July 9
1977 letter) is none other than the permanent sole initiator His
Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada
http://www.HisDivineGraceACBhaktivedantaSwamiPrabhupada.com "
Our sampradaya is not random, it is personal and scientific.
Answer: "His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada
http://www.HisDivineGraceACBhaktivedantaSwamiPrabhupada.com "
What you are proposing is whimsical and imaginary. Oh, and please --
bring bacक the poor letter K, and give up all these silly
superstitions.
"We have to simply repeat liकe parrot. Not exactly parrot. Parrot does
not understand the meaning; he simply vibrates. But you should
understand the meaning also; otherwise how you can explain?" His
Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada (750406CC.MAY
Lectures)
idd
>
>idd wrote:
>
>> Prabhu,
>>
>> Why not just follow the real teaching?
>> The lecture you quoted in the beginning of this thread disproves this
>> imaginary idea of diksa vending machines and random name generators;
>>
>
> and try to maकe yourself perfect, mature." His Divine Grace A C
> Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada (750406CC.MAY Lectures)
>
But you are not following instructions, you are simply making things up.
And now you even try to call yourself Prabhupada!
So accusing me of being "falsely puffed up" doesn't work; it is you trying to
make up your own program who is falsely puffed up.
>>
>> indeed, it disproves the "ritvik" distortion itself.
>>
>
> Answer: "The 12th Ritviक (not included on sample / experiment July 9
> 1977 letter) is none other than the permanent sole initiator His
> Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada
> http://www.HisDivineGraceACBhaktivedantaSwamiPrabhupada.com "
>>
"Permanent sole initiator" means "we will follow the christian example,
rather than the example given by Guru ". It is abandoning the principles
of the sampradaya.
>> Our sampradaya is not random, it is personal and scientific.
>>
>
> Answer: "His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada
> http://www.HisDivineGraceACBhaktivedantaSwamiPrabhupada.com "
>
That is not an answer, it is sidestepping.
>> What you are proposing is whimsical and imaginary.
>> Oh, and please -- bring back the poor letter K, and give up all these
>> silly superstitions.
>>
>
> "We have to simply repeat liकe parrot. Not exactly parrot. Parrot does
> not understand the meaning; he simply vibrates. But you should
> understand the meaning also; otherwise how you can explain?" His
> Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada (750406CC.MAY
> Lectures)
More sidestepping; no answers.
Either you do not read or you do not understand what you read.
If you simply repeat what Srila Prabhupada instructed there would be
no nonsense about Him being the permanent sole initiator, about
avoiding the letter "k", about "diska vending machines", nor all this
other silliness.
This is a public usenet forum, and you are being irresponsible by posting
all this made-up foolishness. You are detracting from the real message when
you do that. Maybe you should join a sankirtan party and take some time to
really study, and just humbly follow for a while so you can learn what is real.
Just chant Hare Krsna and be happy, prabhu. What is the difficulty?
:)
Hare Krsna,
idd
Prabhupada: Show him.
up. ........And now you even try to call yourself
Prabhupada! ........it is you trying to make up your own program who
is falsely puffed up..........rather than the example given by
Guru.........abandoning the principles of the sampradaya............it
is sidestepping........you do not understand what you
read..........nonsense about Him being the permanent sole initiator,
about avoiding the letter "k", about "[diकsa] vending machines", nor
all this other silliness ........all this made-up foolishness. You
are detracting from the real message when you do that.
Answer: These allegations are your own mirror on which is reflected
your own being. Putting His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami
Prabhupada quotes is not being His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta
Swami Prabhupada.
This is a His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada thread
on this forum and you have posted on this thread when you are not a
His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada sympathiser.
“Simply prepare yourself how to repeat कrsna's instructions
very nicely, without any malinterpretation ” His Divine Grace A C
idd
Okay, number one:
This is not a web forum, it is a usenet group. You need to learn the
difference.
Number two:
You have once again managed to either not read or not undrstand what was
written.
Number three:
You do not make sense.
Effective immediately, I am blocking all google groups posts, so I will not
be reading any more of your schizophrenic anti-sampradaya diatribes.
My apologies to the rare, worthwhile posters using google groups;
but you are just far outnumbered by the clueless loonies.
Hare Krsna,
idd
Prabhupada: Show him.
This is not a web forum, it is a usenet group........You have once
again managed to either not read or not undrstand what was
written......... You do not maकe sense..............schizophrenic anti-
sampradaya diatribes......... apologies........clueless
Answer: Usenet has public groups and they are given a forum, each
group has "threads." This is a thread and specifically a His Divine
Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada thread and Diकsa Initiation
solution is being presented, "System for automated Prabhupada Diकsa
Initiations bypassing Temple Coup-ists & Eclipsers," however you
wanted to remove this thread.
Answer: You had various allegations and they are false.
Answer: You should have understood this, "The 12th Ritviक (not
included on sample / experiment July 9 1977 letter) is none other than
the permanent sole initiator His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami
Prabhupada http://www.HisDivineGraceACBhaktivedantaSwamiPrabhupada.com
"
Answer: "Putting His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada
quotes is not being His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami
Prabhupada."
Answer: You need to apologise for your wild allegations.
Answer: Obiously your apology was a pretence and a shamble because
you cannot accept His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada
being the 12th ritviक and nor can you accept, "System for automated
Prabhupada Diकsa Initiations bypassing Temple Coup-ists & Eclipsers."
Fire Yajna
<random.spiritual.name.genera...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Conducting Prabhupada Diकsa Initiations Via Lego?
I would be interested to find out from any Lego developers whether it
is possible to develop a conveyor belt and crane for loading railway
freight trains with religious items?
Could the religious cargo that was loaded on to the cargo coach also
be craned from the cargo / freight coach to a conveyor belt
automatically?
Also can there be an audio automatically played when the railway
coach carrying the cargo stops at a particular point?
I would also be interested to find out whether it is possible to
connect and control the railway including the conveyor belts and crane
to the web?
Please say whether this can be facilitated with Lego Mindstorms, Lego
Railway and perhaps also others parts.
These questions are for the possibility whether the automated
Prabhupada (Hare कrishna Founder) Diकsa Initiations can be conducted
via Lego.
Transparent Via Media
I am not a scholar or a priest. Here is a possible process flow that
can be discussed for automated His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta
Swami Prabhupada (Hare कrishna Founder) Diकsa Initiations, perhaps via
Railway Modelling / LEGO Mindstorms NXT that bypasses Hare कrishna
Temple Coup-ists & Eclipsers.
Website: Notarised Request, Exam/Questionnaires? Accepted? First /
Second Initiation? Time Scheduled & Web Cameras Stream
I
5 etc Conveyor Belts Sensors @ One End: Other End First & Second
Initiation Item Bundles, Beads/Thread with Audios?
I
Magnetic Crane/Pulley etc: Receive Command; Time & Motion; Sensor;
Repeat?; Receive Item/Move Items & Put on railway train cargo coach on
top of His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada picture
I
Railway Train: Sensors; Move ; Play Mantras; Time & Motion; Railway
Modelling Layout can depict Howrah Railway Station
I
Magnetic Crane/Pulley etc: Receive Command; Time & Motion; Sensor;
Repeat?; Receive Item/Move Items & Put on posting tray
I
Print (For Posting): Sensor; Type, Random Spiritual Name Generator;
Previous Name; Address; First / Second Initiation; Instructions?
I
Website: Interactive Computer Software Graphics Based Fire Yajna;
Instructions?
I
Posting the Items & Enter at Initiated Disciples Book and Database
Perfect Questions Perfect Answers
Correction: Posting the Items & Enter at Initiated Disciples Booक and
Database
Vedic Injunction
Has anyone got software that can carbon copy certain things from
photographs and perhaps film, export them to a graphics software to
create an interactive internet / computer based activity?
Specifically the photographs and films are of His Divine Grace A C
Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada (Hare कrishna Founder) bio-physically
carrying out Diकsa Initiations at Fire Yajna stage. Fire Yajna things
from the photographs and films need to be exported to an interactive
graphics software, for example, Flash to create newer interactive
internet / computer based Fire Yajnas, preferable with various motion
combinations and permutations thereby allowing each Fire Yajna to have
a visual and/or program uniqueness to it depending on the software and
equipment.
Also could I request anyone that has photographs and films of His
Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada (Hare कrishna Founder)
carrying out Fire Yajnas at Diकsa Initiations to please load them to
a photo-sharing and film-sharing sites and posting the urls at this
usenet thread?
These questions are for automated His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta
Swami Prabhupada (Hare कrishna Founder) Diकsa Initiations, via Railway
Modelling with perhaps LEGO Mindstorms NXT and also Interactive
Computer Software Graphics that bypasses Hare कrishna Temple Coup-ists
& Eclipsers.
His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada connects His
publishing with Howrah Railway Station shortly before bio-physical
only (not spiritual) disappearance and thus it is a must to have
Howrah Railway Station depicted at the Railway Modelling Layout when
constructing automated His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami
Prabhupada (Hare कrishna Founder) Diकsa Initiations, via Railway
Modelling with perhaps LEGO Mindstorms NXT and also Interactive
Computer Software Graphics that bypasses Hare कrishna Temple Coup-ists
& Eclipsers.
Rama and Yama
The days have elapsed since the usurpers in the Hare कrishna Movement
removed the Hare कrishna Founder: His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta
Swami Prabhupada, from spiritually being the permanent sole Initiatic,
Initiation,
Initiator, Initiatee and Initiating spiritual master are:
From 11/14/1977 (m/d/y)
to 03/10/2009 (m/d/y)
is:
11439 days, or
1634 weeकs and 1 days