Thread24
John F. Winston
Dear Folks: I hereby start this thread (Thread24). Everyone please
join in.
John Winston.
John F. Winston
Subject: New UFO TV Show. Sept. 25, 1996.
On thursday Sept. 26, 1996, at 8/7 C. the TV show Chariots Of The
Gods will be on Cable Channel 10 in Sacramento, Calif. I figure
this will be a good one and plan to watch it.
John Winston.
Larry Suter
"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> writes:
>Dear Folks: I hereby start this thread (Thread24). Everyone please
>join in.
Remember the good old days of Thread23? It started out so
innocent. John_-_Winston entreating us to join in this funfilled
thread that he had just created. Remember the time Fonzie saved
Thread23 from certain extinction by out-cooling Mork from Ork?
Ah, those were happy days.
--
Lupus_-_Yonderboy..!!
Tom Alleycat
John F. Winston <john...@mlode.com> wrote in article
<Pine.UW2.3.94.960925145831.535B-100000@mlode>...
> Dear Folks: I hereby start this thread (Thread24). Everyone please
> join in.
> John Winston.
>
>
> I herby join in, here's my membership card! :)
alleycat
Larry Suter
>Gods will be on Cable Channel 10 in Sacramento, Calif. I figure
>this will be a good one and plan to watch it.
Thank you Sir Winston.
On Thursday Sept. 26, 1996, around noonish I will most likely
watch the good parts of _Field of Dreams_ again. At 3PM I will
watch John Henson and the wonders of _Talk Soup_ on the E channel.
I figure these will both be good ones and plan to watch them.
Lupus Yonderboy.
--
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David F Lynch
Tom Alleycat (alle...@swcp.com) wrote:
: > I herby join in, here's my membership card! :)
: alleycat
:
Ahh! Don't give him your membership card, you won't get on the saucers
without it!
"Don't treat me baby, like your old alleycat..."- Captain Beefheart
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Jack Nutting
John F. Winston (john...@mlode.com) wrote:
: Subject: New UFO TV Show. Sept. 25, 1996.
: On thursday Sept. 26, 1996, at 8/7 C. the TV show Chariots Of The
: Gods will be on Cable Channel 10 in Sacramento, Calif. I figure
: this will be a good one and plan to watch it.
: John Winston.
I dunno man, that's von Daniken's work... does anyone really pay
attention to that guy anymore? Last I knew, he had been pretty
thoroughly discredited...
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John F. Winston
Subject: The Past. Sept. 26, 1996.
This week I decided to go down to an organization that is famous
for their ability to research the parents of people. I didn't know
what to expect but went into the establishment and was greeted by
a very nice gentleman. To start out I was asked to sign in. Next
I was seated at one of their two computers. These were very nice
computers that contained a separate CD drive. I was shown how to
inter the names of the person I was researching. You can't check
anyone that is alive at the present time. The census material is
not released for 70 years. This organization does not charge
anything for this service. I was successful in reasearching my
parents back to my great great grandfather and I then stopped for
the time being. It seems that every other generation in my family is
has a person named John Winston.
I have found that my parents who were American Indians were not
mentioned in my family tree (as far as I checked out so far). It
seems that about 90 years ago people did not want to admit that they
had any American Indians in their family tree. Now it is fashionable
to mention it.
Now to change the subject a little, I once was a reader of an
organization's magazine that was put out by a group in Portland,
Oregon called Universarium (I don't think they are any longer in
existence). One of the many things they would do from time to time
was tell who a person had been in a previous life.
You may remember the late US president called L. B. Johnson. They
said that the late president Lydon Baines Johnson was in a previous
lifetime the president of Texas called Sam Houston (The so-called
Father Of Texas). Sam Houston was a very well thought of person
in the history of Texas. The unusual thing about this is that they
said the the brother of ex-president L. B. Johnson was named Samuel
Houston Johnson or Sam Houston Johnson. One of my grandparent names
was Samuel Houston Winston. Another grandmother was called Liza
Jane.
I was told, by another source of information,that I had been an
American Indian man in a previous life with a lot of feather's and
power. Who knows maybe I was one of the American Indians they were
trying to hide in my family tree.
Source Of Information: Sonora Wards, --- Ch--ch. Family History
Center. Hilsdale Drive, Phone: 209-536-9206. Tues. - Thurs (closed
1st Thurs. Even) 10 am to 4 pm & 6:30 pm to 9 pm.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Subject: A Question From Russia. Sept. 26, 1996.
I just got a question from a person in Russia that I can't answer.
Maybe someone of you can give some information to this person and
I will pass it on to him.
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To: stepan <ste...@spb.runnet.ru>
Subject: Re: Northern Lights
Dear Stepan: I am happy to get you E-mail. I am fairly familiar with
the Norhtern lights and have seen them in Alaska when I was there and
the Yukon. I am not familiar with some of the terms you are using
in your message. I will now asked you to clearify some of the terms.
On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, stepan wrote:
> John Winston ! I'm Stepan Samarin from SpbITMO (Russia
st.-Petersburg)
> I've visited your page & I'm very interested in northern lights. I
want
> to create smth
JW What do you mean by smth?
> on the subject of modeling northern lights. Would you be
> so kind to send me some mathematics, equations or smth. else,
describing
> northern lights mathematically.
> Stepan Samarin ste...@spb.runnet.ru
> Thanks!
JW That is something I know nothing about. I will ask the people on
the Net and write you back later.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Jamie E.
> Now to change the subject a little, I once was a reader of an
>organization's magazine that was put out by a group in Portland,
>Oregon called Universarium (I don't think they are any longer in
>existence). One of the many things they would do from time to time
>was tell who a person had been in a previous life.
>
> You may remember the late US president called L. B. Johnson. They
>said that the late president Lydon Baines Johnson was in a previous
>lifetime the president of Texas called Sam Houston (The so-called
>Father Of Texas).
Just once, at least once in my lifetime, I want to hear someone say
that in a previouse life they were not a very important person. Mabey
a poor, boring, potato farmer in Ireland - and not EVEN during the
potato famine. Or how about someone saying " In my past life I was
a stupid, hatefull, racist red neck who died during a drunken rampage
trying to jump from one tall building to the other saying 'hey yall,
watch this!'" and missing the other building by an incredible length.
APostman
Disgruntled, but unarmed.
>
Steven Kaeser
In article <52e4cj$6...@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> jnut...@mathcs.carleton.edu (Jack Nutting) writes:
>From: jnut...@mathcs.carleton.edu (Jack Nutting)
>Subject: Re: Thread24
>Date: 26 Sep 1996 14:36:03 GMT
>John F. Winston (john...@mlode.com) wrote:
>: Subject: New UFO TV Show. Sept. 25, 1996.
>: On thursday Sept. 26, 1996, at 8/7 C. the TV show Chariots Of The
>: Gods will be on Cable Channel 10 in Sacramento, Calif. I figure
>: this will be a good one and plan to watch it.
>: John Winston.
>I dunno man, that's von Daniken's work... does anyone really pay
>attention to that guy anymore? Last I knew, he had been pretty
>thoroughly discredited...
This is an updated program, not a rehash (or at least a complete rehash) of
his infamous book.
Von Daniken admitted to making up some of the evidence that he used, which
cost him his credibility in the mid-70's. However, he is not alone in his
belief regarding ancient astronauts and we'll have to see what claims are made
before we can really write him off. He has an uphill battle if he hopes to
regain any respect, and it will be interesting to see how this compares to his
earlier work.
John F. Winston
Dear Folks: I would like to welcome Alleycat as the first member of
this thread and all threads to come. It is great to hear from Kibo
again. Don't tell anyone but he is one of my best Net friends. We
know eachother from a long way back. He is one of the only person's
on Planet Earth who understands by form of humor.
It's always good to hear from the following people;
Michael Straight,
Rev Jack Nutting,
Teflon Piano,
Jami E.,
and Apostman.
In the study of reincarnation I have found over 15 people who
I have been in past lives, one of them was even a woman. I was a
poor hill billy from Tennesse who came out here with a sister of
mine at the time. She is now a psychic lady by the name of Evelyn.
We both came out together with no one else as teenagers. We went
to Poker Flats in Calif. (there are more than one Poker Flats in
Calif), but this one was on a river in Northern Calif. Most people
don't want to know about the non important lives that people live.
Now on with the show.
John Winston
Subject: Answers From Winifred. Sept. 26, 1996.
Here are some answers that Winifred sent me. It seems that she is
getting quite a few people asking her questions.
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From: Winifred
Subject: Trons
Hi J-W: I get a lot of questions from your readers - some of which
are about TRONS.
Trons are the Universal workhorses - they are the "Wheels within
Wheels" in the Universe, the invisible machinery that runs things.
BIO TRON - is the machinery of nature - we have been learning all
about Her since we left the Garden of Eden -
COSMO TRON - runs the invisible world that meshes with the visible
world. We might call it the wheel of heaven.
LEVI TRON - is the wheel I am working with - it is like the yeast in
bread - or the levitation machinery between dimensions (LEVI is 1.1.
on the Cosmic Cube)
MEGA TRON is the BIG WHEEL - that weds the Will of G-- to the will
of the common man in the ongoing Theocratic democratization of the
New Heaven and The New Earth. In one sense it is the name of the
MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
Regards - Thoth and Winifred.
****************************************
The Galactic Federation of Light Forces.
Star Base One - P.O. Box 415 - Frankford,
Ontario, Canada, KOK 2CO. (613) 398-0331
"Let there be Light!"
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John Winston. john...@mlode.com
John F. Winston
Subject: Chariot Of The Gods. Sept. 26, 1996.
The TV show was aired tonight at one hour later that what it
was advertised. In my estimation it was a pretty good show that
contained a lot of true information.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
John F. Winston
Subject: Results Of Prediction. Sept. 27, 1996.
Here is some information that was sent to me and also to Winifred.
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Subject: eclipse results??
Well, its now Friday Sept 27, the morning after the epochal lunar
eclipse that heralded great events in your numerous tracks, as posted
to the internet UFO newsgroups by John Winston.
And except for the fact that a nice cool front has blown thru Austin,
Texas, the world seems to mere mortals like myself to be essentially
the same place it was 24 hours ago. No news reports of anything
unusual.
* As an open-minded skeptic,
JW I believe you will find that those words mean exactly the opposite
of one another.
* I've been following the various UFO newsgroups
for some months now, observing comments and saving posts I think
interesting.
One class of posts I like to save are those which make predictions,
like yours, just so I can see if something noticeable really does
happen when specific dates (like the lunar eclipse) pass.
So far, I see nothing of note. So, I have a request for you:
Given the large bandwidth filled on these newsgroups with your
discussions of the great events to supposed to unfold with the lunar
eclipse (as posted by John Winston), I think it only proper that you
should now report to us all on what did, or did not, actually happen
last nite.
JW Please give Winifred a little time to respond. I am still here
and I don't know if anything happened or not.
That's only fair, is it not? Based on all your tracts (one included
below), surely this event must have some impact we can all see if
you'd be kind enough to point us at it. And if nothing happened,
well, I think you owe everyone an apology, as well as an
explanation.
JW I doubt if anyone owes you anything. Winifred is trying to do
something. Whether or not she succeeds is something that people will
sit around and make fun of her for trying. It a fun game for some
people. I never said whether I thought she would succeed. I merely
report her effort and hoped that she would succeed.
* Further, I think the perfect way to get this out is exactly like the
previous postings: let John Winston post your response in one of his
threads. If I see nothing from John in the newsgroups in a week or
so, I'll probably post an appropriate comment myself on the your
predictions and the (non?) results. I think it only fair to give you
chance to respond first yourself.
By the way, I am not specifically targeting you. I keep postings of
all sorts of predictions made in these newsgroups. Yours is only one.
For instance, if January 1, 1997 rolls around and Sheldon's Nidle's
much heralded predictions of ET "mass landings" fail to occur, you
can bet there will be commentary on that. And very probably not just
from me!
Respectfully,
-B
JW It is always nice to have people who sit back and watch other
people fail in there attempt to do something.
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From: "John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com>
Subject: Re: Thread 23.
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:39:23 -0800
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Subject: News From Winifred. Sept. 3, 1006.
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From: Winifred
Subject: Star Gate is open!
Starbase Directory = Liaison Officers and Star Bases (9.12)
The Clinton letter represents a Star Gate which is just up ahead.
We are empowered. The Cosmic Changeover is now set indelibly in
time and space. For the curious, p.13-16 of the BOOK OF THOTH,
explains how to make a Stargate. It has taken 23 years to
complete.
This codex outlines the infrastructure of our Military Affairs.
For mission protection it carries a TOP SECRET classification
until the 7 day countdown preceding the Lunar eclipse of <-------
September 26, 1996. This Directory gives some locations and
addresses of the Liaison Officers, Star Base Commanders, Star
Fleet Technicians, Liaison Officers, all of whom are here-now to
help mankind over the bridge, back to Infinity. Other key
connections will be published later.
This series will deal with such matters as how
to build Star Ships, end gravitational drag, open Atlantis Inns
to initiate global commerce between dimensions (7.2/2.7) (TELOS
is the Infinite Interdimensional Trading Post.) It will show that
the potential of Star Fleet Commanders in the New Kingdom is both
financially and spiritually limitless. We cater to the deluxe
Life Sciences - as above - so below.
This posting carries the solid military note of "The buck stops
here" which all Star Ship Personnel (11.11) emulate
instinctively.
Thoth of Atlantis is in charge of the mass landing of Star Beings
which immediately precedes the Cosmic Changeover. We are
assembling a potent team of Light Beings (Galactic Humans) with
kindred experts in all fields.
Steven M. Greer, M.D., is the International Director of CSETI at
P.O.Box 15401, Asheville, N.C., 28813. Stevens role is to
establish a bilateral mission between human and E.T.'s in
preparation for the flip. The Canadian representative is Jennifer
Jarvis, 112 Laurier Ave., Milton, Ont. L9T 4S1
George Mitchell Ober at entr...@csbh.mhv.net - and his
organization is geo@earth~entrpryz^^ have a synchronous network
in place with Light Speed connections. Our common goal is a world
of peace and harmony. We project the holograph of all
possibility. Those who respond usually feel they have been born
for this moment in time-space.
(In classical literature, PRINCE OBERON is the King of the
Elementals. He has a magical horn which when it blows ends the
Old Kingdom - and the whole world awakens from the dreamstate -
the world of yesterday was but a "Mid-summer Nights Dream.")
Geo^^EaRth EnTrPrYz is a Master Dowser, located in the ancient
outpost of Woodstock. He is standing by...WITH A TEAM OF KINDRED
EXPERTS IN ALL FIELDS. If you feel attracted to one of these
categories - Engineers, Electrical, Electronic, Computer, Land,
please report in to George and his team a.s.a.p.
George can access language specialists, healers, dowsers sacred
scientists, Earth Conscious builders chemical, acoustical earth
sciences HAM RADIO AND COMMUNICATION SPECIALISTS.
George writes: "We have air force and kindred military personnel
not to mention all media contacts on personal level ufo
specialists and children. WE ARE ALL STANDING BY. I AM AWAITING
INSTRUCTION AND POISED TO ACTIVATE ALL ANCIENT SACRED ENERGY
VORTEXES ON THE EASTERN SEABOARD TO MISSISSIPPI CAHOKIA MOUNDS
INCLUDING FROM A NORTHERLY TO SOUTHERNLY POSITION MT. KHATADIN
MT.WASHINGTON MT.MANSFIELD MYSTERY HILL NH MT.GREYLOCK
MT.HIGHPOINT HIGHPOINT NJ. ALL RELATED DOLEMENS
TEMPLE/OBSERVATORIES STANDING STONES MT.MITCHELL, THE HIGHEST
POINT IN EAST COAST ASHEVILLE NC.STRONG ENERGY THERE!
We will be posting a 3-week ACCELERATED LEARNING COURSES between
now and Sep.26 th. The Crystal of Atlantis can explain PURE
MAGIC, and how to use PURE MAGIC to build your own Star Ship.
We will run a search and rescue operation for groups of stranded
humans who do not yet realise the metaphoric flood of light now
leaves them stranded, on the separated islands of science,
psychology, politics, religion. In the Upper Kingdom all
knowledge is one.
The ATLANTEANS are back - silent no more. ATLANTIS is the State
of Undivided Mind - from which all life originates - ATLANTIS is
governed by SOLAR LOGOS - the Light of The Universe. There is ONE
LIGHT which illuminates ALL LIFE.
Then there are the Anti-Atlanteans who think first of themselves.
These are Separatists who try to maintain a Divided Kingdom, and
perpetuate the human curse of ignorance of its full potential.
We are like Star Ship Noah's Ark II. As in the days of Noah so
shall it be. We will conquer the Anti Atlanteans on behalf of the
MOTHER GODDESS - with whom WE ARE ONE.
ATLANTIS is the establishment of THY KINGDOM COME - The New
Heaven and the New Earth...by the PEOPLE OF ONE OMNIPOTENT
BEING which is here now in its microparts to deal with the Cosmic
Changeover in pragmatic and personal terms.
Stay tuned to receive our accelerated learning course. To become
and become an official founding member of the landed GALACTIC
FEDERATION OF LIGHT FORCES - check in with George or with a Star
Base.
*************************************************
The Galactic Federation of Light Forces.
Star Base #7.6 - S.B.Commander Melva Manseau Ms.D.,
11231 Robert Road, Winfield, B.C., V4V 1L5
(604) 766-1282 - e-mail Me...@silk.net
"Let there be Light!"
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JW Sounds like Winifred has everthing in hand.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
JW I am still with Winifred and hope she succeeds.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Subject: Leave. Sept. 27, 1996.
Today I will be leaving for a few days to go over to the San
Francisco Bay Area. I'll be doing some fishing over in Santa
Cruz also. So look out fish here I come.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Jerry Watson
John F. Winston wrote:
>
> Dear Folks: I hereby start this thread (Thread24). Everyone please
> join in.
> John Winston.
Only if you promise to take your medication.
Sir Jerry
Archangel of UFO Zealot Destruction
Boardmember afa-b
lifetime member of the art bell internet fan club
project: conspiring to end the conspiracy theories
plan: shoving the truth up your nose
confirmed 5/11/96
by Tim Hill, Lord Supreme Being
and ruling Monarch of afa-b
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Please don't spam to alt.fan.art-bell.
We are talking about some serious BS here...
JDW
Daedalus Damocletian
OMIT TESTICLE!
-QPM
P.S. Never sleep in or on a testicle when you're in a bad mood.
P.P.S. Thus spake Zarathustra: testicle. Amen.
John F. Winston
Subject: Answer From Winifred To B. Sept. 30, 1996.
I'm now back again and will explain my trip later but here is
Winifred's answer to the person called B. who figured she owed him
an explanation about what did or did not happen during the eclipse
of the Moon recently.
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From: Winifred
Subject: It happened last night!
Dear John Winston:
First thing this morning I received a very polite request from one
of your readers concerning a very valid point about the Cosmic
changeover. He wants me to apologize publicly concerning my postings
which have been transmitted through your generosity of thought. You
know John - you are like my Nemesis - you force me to dig down into
the deepest Akashic records to answer mortal questions about why is
the cave so dark.
I respect Brian - and offer this diagnosis for Brians' failure to
make the crossing as so many did (and I have letters on this) ...
"two shall be standing in the field..." There are basic
pre-requisites I guess, and I have done my best to cover them in
recent postings.
When we are born into and live in darkness - how can we perceive
what it is like to live in Light? Brian's letter was the only
negative comment among many postings from people who had got very
positive results. We had already published the "Window of
Transfer" of the Universal Cross - to reach this point requires a
high degree of DIVINE JEALOUSY, which is something we discovered
in the Akashic Records on Star Ship Galaxia - The Ship with Lady
Nada on the Bridge.
Brian lacks desire. His energy investment into this Mystery of
God has been superficial. The left brainsphere has made a
negative analysis. Training leaves little room for a big neutral
file for storage of data which needs later digestion to the full
from a (-T) reverse time, viewpoint. It is only in reverse time
that we get 20-20 vision.
Where to begin? Brian is a fair minded and well educated
gentleman in a modern but we are dealing with ancient wisdom.
Education often quells the cosmic fire of JEALOUSY towards the
first and second passover commandment, so he hits the reject slot
5.4. rather than the acceptance slot 5.5 which is DESTINY. The
common denominator of those who made it last night was the COSMIC
FIRE of JEALOUSY - which many of us had discussed and understood
ahead of time for momentum in the "Energy-Momentum-Charge"
equation. Here it is in the ancient records of Cosmic Numerology:
++++++++++++++++++++
18. And the numeration of AChD (Unity) is 13. Likewise is the
numeration of AHBH, Ahebah, LOVE, 13. And together Unity and Love
are 26, which is the numeration if IHVH, which implieth that the
One G-- is Love, and as such most worthy of the whole love of His
chosen people -- first and foremost and always.
19. After which First Commandment cometh the love of the
neighbour and of one another, and of all creatures for His sake.
*** THIS IS THE WINDOW OF TRANSFER I HAVE BEEN TEACHING ABOUT ***
THE ONE MANY OF THE JEALOUS WENT THROUGH AT EASTER
20. And what of this Love (AHBH) when extended, or as the
Qabalists say, spelt in full? Spelt in full AHBH (13) becomes ALP
HH BITh HH the numeration of which is 543 the equivalent of AHIH
AShR AHIM -- I AM THAT I AM -- The NAME of the Highest G--.
21. ACHAD is AHEBAH -- G-- is Love.
22. But there is a further great Mystery of the name of G-- which
was also revealed unto Moses (345) but of which word is indeed
seldom spoken, yet which when known and reverenced unlocks many
secret gates.
23. This Holy name is QNA whose numeration is 151.
24. What meaneth this?
25. When Moses having broken the First tablets of the law
received from G- on Mount Sinai, returned again with other
tablets that the Lord might write again thereon (See Exodus Ch
34 V.1) G-- made a further covenant with him (verse 10) and
disclosed a third name to Moses (verse 14) as follows: "For
thou shalt worship no other G--; for IHVH whose Name is JEALOUS
(QNA) is a jealous G--."
26. Now the primary meaning of this word JEALOUS is: Eager to
uphold, solicitous for, guarding watchfully. Its secondary
meaning as applied to the Commandment of G-- is: Requiring
whole-hearted worship and servive. And only in its tertiary and
further meanings does it have reference to: Apprehension
of being supplanted, outdone by a rival in love; or in the favour
of another etc. But it does also mean: Zealously vigilant. Thus
its root is in "Zeal": Intense enthusiasm; ardour, fervour.
27. It is this intense enthusiasm, this ardour, this fervour that
QNA is in Himself and demand of others: Thou shalt LOVE Me with
thy whole heart, thy whole soul, thy whole mind and thy whole
strength for I AM LOVE Itself and I AM JEALOUS, because
passionate Love in its very nature implies the possibility of
Jealousy.
28. And how does this Great Name of G-- give us the key to our
choice of a Number most adequate to represent Him?
29. The Numeration of QNA is 151.
Jealousy is intense enthusiasm. How else would we enter the
Kingdom of Heaven?
Fri 27 Sep 1996 08:44:32 -0500
From: Brian
To: winifred
Subject: eclipse results??
Well, its now Friday Sept 27, the morning after the epochal lunar
eclipse that heralded great events in your numerous tracks, as
posted to the internet UFO newsgroups by John Winston.
And except for the fact that a nice cool front has blown thru
Austin, Texas,
the world seems to mere mortals like myself to be essentially the
same place
it was 24 hours ago. No news reports of anything unusual.
As an open-minded skeptic, I've been following the various UFO
newsgroups for some months now, observing comments and saving
posts I think interesting. One class of posts I like to save are
those which make predictions, like yours, just so I can see if
something noticeable really does happen
when specific dates (like the lunar eclipse) pass.
So far, I see nothing of note. So, I have a request for you:
Given the large bandwidth filled on these newsgroups with your
discussions of the great events to supposed to unfold with the
lunar eclipse (as posted by John Winston), I think it only proper
that you should now report to us *** (he means him) all on what
did, or did not, actually happen last nite.
That's only fair, is it not? Based on all your tracts (one
included below), surely this event must have some impact we can
all see if you'd be kind enough to point us at it. And if
nothing happened, well, I think you owe everyone an apology, as
well as an explanation.
Further, I think the perfect way to get this out is exactly like
the previous postings: let John Winston post your response in
one of his threads. If I see nothing from John in the newsgroups
in a week or so, I'll probably post an appropriate comment myself
on the your predictions and the (non?) results. I think it only
fair to give you chance to respond first yourself.
By the way, I am not specifically targeting you. I keep postings
of all sorts of predictions made in these newsgroups. Yours is
only one. For instance, if January 1, 1997 rolls around and
Sheldon's Nidle's much heralded predictions of ET "mass landings"
fail to occur, you can bet there will be commentary on that. And
very probably not just from me!
Respectfully,
-Brian
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
John F. Winston
Subject: A Tale Of Catfish And Abductions. Oct. 1, 1996.
A couple of weeks ago I was fishing and saw a couple of b---k
people coming out an area. A person who I had recently met was
talking to them and we found out that they had in their possession
many catfish that they had recently caught. One of the fish was
about a ten pounder and the rest were about 2 lbs. each. It looked
like they had about 8 fish total. After my friend gave them some
cool water they told us where their secret spot was. It appears that
from where we were near Tracy, Calif. on the Delta Mendota Canal
they had gotten out of their truck, got on their bicycles and
ridden 5 mile to where the large pumping station was that lifts the
water up a hill and it is sent through the canal system which
finally goes down to Los Angeles (which is a very controversial
subject in that L.A. gets water from the Northern Calif. Delta area).
Sometime later I decided to try it for myself alone. I took off
on my multi-geared mountain bike and proceeded against stiff winds
to finally arrive at the designated spot. I then caught a decent
sized stripped bass, moved a little ways to where the water was
going in a whirl poll and proceeded to hook on to a good size
catfish. I had him pretty well tuckered out when a M-----n type
person with a pretty thick accent came up in an official looking
truck and said, "Hey man you can't you can't fish here. The water
coming out of here is too fast and dangerous. How did you get in
here? Didn't you see all of those signs? You could be arrested if
the police catch you. You should go back to the bridge." I then
told him that I would leave but I would like to have him help me pull
in the fish because I had light line on my fishing rod. He then
attempted to help me pull the fish out and there was actually
a catfish on it and a stripped bass on the other hook. When he did
this the line broke and he said he was sorry. The weight of the line
was hung up on a iron ladder and I was able to finally get the fish
by the gills and hand him to the man and he took the fish out to the
road. I finally left the area. The fish was 22 inches long.
After getting over to the safe fishing area I started fishing
near a man and I had the feeling that I should tell him something
about UFOs. He then told me that he had an encounter himself. It
seemed that he had the classic encounter of seeing a UFO, then later
loosing some time (about 5 hours) then coming to consciousness on
a different road. He had a wound on the calf of his leg. When he
got back his tool box and the tools inside were magnetize so that
they stuck together and the lid of the tool box would slam shut
when it was opened. I told him a few things and explained to him
what in my opinion what had happened to him.
I told him that some people think that from 4 to 6 million
americans have been abducted in a similar way to what he was
explaining. When he attempted to explain his experiences to his
friends they just accused him of being on drugs. He was able to
predict earthquakes and other thing after this time. All of this was
so common to me that I didn't even take his name.
Part 1.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
John F. Winston
Subject: E-mail From Winifred. Oct. 2, 1996.
Here is some information that Winifred has just sent me. This
contains religious material so be careful.
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From: Winifred
Subject: Peace on Earth 1
Dear Ascended Master:
As Zoosh was explaining, space and time are folding back. This
corresponds to "roll up the scroll" in the biblical version.
Mystery Schools teach that this happens theoretically when the
neophyte has learned the many facets of the Name of G--.
Alpha and Omega then become like the snake biting its own tail,
as, from the physics viewpoint we end the flaw in our perceptive
mirror.
Meaning, after we have ascended - we become ascended-descended
Masters. For SPIRITUAL POWER is useless unless it is exercised in
the arena of physical life.
During the course of our consciousness buildup to transfer from
human to Galactic-human status, I began to receive copies of
ancient illuminati documents concerning the history of the Elohim
- whom we are joining as fellow Light Beings.
These can bring light to bear on, and RESOLUTION of the war in
the middle east, that is the immediate peace problem. Save for an
argument over one word the Palestinai and the Israeli are blood
brothers.
We need to get this message out - across to the media
priesthood and politicians. Ancient documents confirm
that ALLAH and JEHOVAH - are two different names for a single
entity. This is proven via Hebrew numerology and the Sepiroth
which we have not talked about so far in our Cosmic Classroom as
the detail gets pretty deep when you first learn it... and we
were concentrating on climb.
The Truth about this WORD is our heavy ammunition in our PEACE
OFFENSIVE and our TRUTH GUNS will help the people make the final
paradigm shift. The we just "rollback the scroll."
We have come back to help the people: October is always a
favorite month for a Revolution. Which means A TURN OF THE
WHEEL ... or as the Moody Blues would say - "a turn of the page,
and reads like before... who could ask for more?" Here is where
we get to stop the centrifugal spin and turn it into centripetal;
a Herculean task but The Cyborg Tron can do it.
What follows is the gist of the ALLAH-JEHOVAH resolution. This is
a Holy war and Jerusalem is the symbolic capital of OUR NEW WORLD
- The Golden City belongs to ALL OF US - this is how we LEAP to
the final resolution of our Global Jihad. There must be J--ish
and Islamic web sites we can use to tell the people. JERUSALEM is
our ELOHIMIC CAPITAL - and we will use CIRCUIT 4.9/9.4 - Ancient
Kabbalistic-Sepirothic-Numerical TRUTH to defend it.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
LIBER QNA VEL
NAMEN DEI
sub figura CLI
Frater Achad
1. In the Beginning, created, ALHIM, the Essence
of the Heavens and the Essence of the Earth.
2. Thus the first Name given in the Book of
Genesis is that of The Elohim, the Creative G--s.
3. And the Numeration thereof is 86. Many and great
are its mysteries.
4. Then, in the Second Creation Story, is made mention
of IHVH = JaHVeH, the Tetragrammaton or
Name-of-the-Four-letters, whose numeration is 26.
5. And this name was throughout the Second Story
combined with that of the First, as it is written
IHVH ALHIM, whose numeration is 112.
6. And the Name-of-the-Four-letters, IHVH, was
considered by the J--s too sacred to be pronounced,
save only once a year by the High Priest in the
Holy of Holies, amid the blare of trumpets, and
thus, in reading aloud, there was substituted the
name ADNI, Adonai, which being translated is
"Lord." And the numeration thereof is 65.
7. But unto Abraham and unto Isaac and unto Jacob,
with whom G-- made His first Covenant, His Name
IHVH was not revealed, for by them was He known by
His name AL (G--) Shaddai, that is to say: G--
Almighty. And the numeration of AL is 31 (many and
great are its mysteries); and the full numeration
of AL ShDI, is 345, which is also that of the
mysterious word HShM, Ha Shema, which meaneth The
of AL ShDI, is 345, which is also that of the
mysterious word HShM, Ha Shema, which meaneth The
NAME.
8. But only unto the Prophet MShH, Moses, the
numeration of whose name is 345, was revealed by
G-- His Highest Name, that is by numeration 543,
the numerical Temurah of 345, which name is AHIH
AShR AHIH, Ehieh Ashur Ehieh, which meaneth
"Existence IS Existence" -- the NAME of the Highest
G--.
**************************************
The Galactic Federation of Light Forces.
Star Base One - P.O. Box 415 - Frankford,
Ontario, Canada, KOK 2CO. (613) 398-0331
"Let there be Light!"
http://www.telos.ca/~wbarton
*****************************************
Part 1..
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Part 2 of 3.
From: Winifred
Subject: Peace on Earth 2
part 2 of 2 parts - Kabbalah ends mid-east war.... wb
9. Even as it is written in Exodus 3.13: "And Moses said to
God, `Behold, when I come to the children of Israel, and say to
them, The G-- of your fathers hath sent me to you; and they shall
say to me, What is his name? What shall I say to them?" And G--
said to Moses, `I AM THAT I AM.' And he said `Thus shalt thou say
to the children if Israel; I AM (AHIH) hath sent me to you.'"
10. And the numeration of AHIH is 21, many and great are its
mysteries.
11. "And G-- said moreover to Moses, "Thus shalt thou say to the
children of Israel; IHVH, (JaHVeH) the G-- of your fathers, the
G-- of Abraham, the G-- of Isaac, and the G-- of Jacob hath sent
me to you; this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial to
generations of generations".
12. And again in Exodus 6.2: "And G-- spake unto Moses, and said
to him, `I AM IHVH (JaHVeH). And I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob, as AL (or G--) Almighty, but by my name IHVH was I
not known to them. And I also established my covenant with them
to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their sojournings
wherein they sojourned!"
13. And the numeration of AHIH IHVH, I AM JaHVeH, is 47, but by
the Qabalists these Names (of Macroprosopus and Microprosopus)
have been coalescend into the most mysterious name AHIHVH, the
numeration of which is 32.
14. Thus did G-- reveal His name to Moses as of the Vast
Countenance AHIH and of the Lesser Countenance IHVH, and both
these Holy Names have been held most sacred.
15. But in the whole of Judaism and its sacred literature there
is nothing that is so holy as the sentence known as the Shema, Ha
Shema, which is to say "The NAME" -- "Hear, O Israel: IHVH ALHIM
HVH AChD, JaHVeH our G-- JaHVeH is ACHAD: Achad meaning ONE --
UNITY. (And this Shema occurs in the Book of Deuteronomy Chapter
VI verse 4.)
16. And these words of the Shema are immediately followed by the
Command: "And thou shalt love IHVH thy G-- with all thy heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words I
command thee this day, shall be in thy heart; and thou shalt
press them upon thy children, and shall talk of them when thou
sittest in thy house, and down, and when thou risest up. And thou
shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be as
frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write upon the
door-post of thy house, and on the city gates.
17. This, then is the Commandment which IHShVH (J--s) later
referred to as "The whole of the Law and the Prophets."
18. And the numeration of AChD (Unity) is 13. Likewise is the
numeration of AHBH, Ahebah, LOVE, 13. And together Unity and Love
are 26, which is the numeration if IHVH, which implieth that the
One G-- is Love, and as such most worthy of the whole love of His
chosen people -- first and foremost and always.
19. After which First Commandment cometh the love of the
neighbour and of one another, and of all creatures for His sake.
20. And what of this Love (AHBH) when extended, or as the
Qabalists say, spelt in full? Spelt in full AHBH (13) becomes ALP
HH BITh HH the numeration of which is 543 the equivalent of AHIH
AShR AHIM -- I AM THAT I AM -- The NAME of the Highest G--.
21. ACHAD is AHEBAH -- G-- is Love.
22. But there is a further great Mystery of the name of G-- which
was also revealed unto Moses (345) but of which word is indeed
seldom spoken, yet which when known and reverenced unlocks many
secret gates.
23. This Holy name is QNA whose numeration is 151.
24. What meaneth this?
25. When Moses having broken the First tablets of the law
received from G-- on Mount Sinai, returned again with other
tablets that the Lord might write again thereon (See Exodus Ch
34 V.1) G-- made a further covenant with him (verse 10) and
disclosed a third name to Moses (verse 14) as follows: "For
thou shalt worship no other G--; for IHVH whose Name is JEALOUS
(QNA) is a jealous God."
26. Now the primary meaning of this word JEALOUS is: Eager to
uphold, solicitous for, guarding watchfully. Its secondary
meaning as applied to the Commandment of G-- is: Requiring
whole-hearted worship and service. And only in its tertiary and
further meanings does it have reference to: Apprehension
of being supplanted, outdone by a rival in love; or in the favour
of another etc. But it does also mean: Zealously vigilant. Thus
its root is in "Zeal": Intense enthusiasm; ardour, fervour.
27. It is this intense enthusiasm, this ardour, this fervour that
QNA is in Himself and demand of others: Thou shalt LOVE Me with
thy whole heart, thy whole soul, thy whole mind and thy whole
strength for I AM LOVE Itself and I AM JEALOUS, because
passionate Love in its very nature implies the possibility of
Jealousy.
28. And how does this Great Name of G-- give us the key to our
choice of a Number most adequate to represent Him?
29. The Numeration of QNA is 151.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
....
NB - It would be a real feather in Clinton's political
cap if he were to resolve this conflict. As a lifelong member of
the "de Moray Illuminated Temple" *****(since he was 9 years old)
this would be the perfect landing ramp for the STAR SHIP arrival
of the KING OF KINGS (see next posting) and it would save a lot
of distress among people. Great for a pre-election finale -
guaranteed to get him re-elected by the Light Beings - cos we
wouldn't want to interrupt democracy, would we?
Clintons' surrender speech was placed in the road that we would
be travelling back along after passing through the ANKH. His card
is the "Child of the Aeon" trying to promote synthesis and he
needs all the help we can give him.
For the serious "Golden Dawn" magicians we are speaking of the
tetragrammaton - Clinton's Speech was where we made a POINT IN
TIME (3.2/2.3) for the exit procedure - page 14 of the "BOOK OF
THOTH" describes the detail. We are all cards in the Tarot Deck
on our top operational level. I appreciate the Master Magicians
hidden just below the surface-brain among our company who checked
in to support me at this time. (? like that crafty old Celtic
HERMIT - St.Cuthbert - ha-ha!)
If we get the revolution over by the end of October, we can
really celebrate on All Saints Eve, when dimensions have made
their customary harmonic convergence since the beginning of "time
and space." This is the date of the Annual General Meeting of
the Bartonian Metaphysical Society, our 33rd. Annual General
Meeting to be exact. Like a human being a Corporation grows up -
gains experience in the world of Good and Evil and maturates. For
me it has been like a child who, at 33 has now grown up to
Spiritual Maturity. Now we can travel into the Future-Past in
absolute security of our integrated CORPORATE IDENTITY at
Circuit 4.11/11.4
It is obvious that both the Muslims and J--s are ZEALOUS - and it
is this Holy Zeal of HOLY FIRE of the masculine aspect of Deity
that is destroying the people and the country. ALL BECAUSE OF A
WORD - A NAME! They are fighting over a word! It is the western
version of Shiva dancing on the dead bodies of his devotees.
However - it is written THE TRUTH shall make you free - and I
feel it is vital we get this message across to the USA PRESIDENT
- the UN and all Peace Making Parties a.s.a.p because they are
meeting today to try to find a solution - COMMON SENSE and WE ARE
ONE is the sole an PERMANENT SOLUTION to this bloodshed.
As time folds back, I am permitted to reveal the workings of the
secret GOVERNMENT OF ATLANTIS - The State of Undivided Mind. that
runs the physical world. One of its strong arms is The World
Part 2 of 3.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Part 3 of 3.
(JW I believe we have covered soom of this information before.)
From: Winifred
Subject: 2 Peace on Earth 2
Council for Global Co-Operation, of which I am a co-founder.
The WCGC Chairman is Prof. George Wald, Nobel Laureate, U.S.A. A
man of piercing insight and bold voice on the cause of war:
Other Nobel Laureate Directors and Patrons are, Bishop Desmond
Tutu, South Africa; Prof. Linus Pauling, USA (JW Now dead).:
Prof. John Polanyi, Canada; Prof. Abdus Salam, Pakistan; Patrick
White, Australia, Prof. Kenichi Fukui, Japan; Mairead Maguire, U.K.,
Prof. Ilya Prigogine, Belguim; Prof. Kai Seigbahn, Sweden, Prof.
Jan Tinbergen, Netherlands.
Anti-Christ is anti-Light - the Lie opposing the Truth that will
set ALL PEOPLE free. Each RIVAL TO THE LIGHT thinks divisively
about THE ONE, so promoting bloodshed, because they fear loss of
prestige and cultural status if they co-operate.
PEACE is Truth and Love in an harmonic convergence with Creation
and the Creative Intent. This is where a heavy YIN element comes
in. When you get to the top of the mountain all opposites are
resolved - and PEACE and WAR BECOME THE SAME THING. We are the
keepers of the flame.
Each life force is based in COSMIC FIRE. When we came through the
ANKH last Thursday night (Thor's Day in the Cosmic Calendar
signifies the Double sided Swastika if we can harp back to our
Hitler series of postings.) "HARP BACK" is a key technique in
the infold of time - it is a bit like folding our parachute.
Then we become Light Points - darting back and forth at
incredible speeds down a straight and narrow tunnel. All
knowledge is stored in these archives - documents that go way way
way back - to way before our remembered beginning as a
civilization. Once again, as in the Future Past WE ARE ALL
POSSIBILITY WRAPPED IN LIMITLESS CREATIVE INTELLIGENCE.
***** more on Illuminated Temples to follow. What I at first
called "Domed Cities" reached by an abduction in a Star Ship - I
now understand as being gaps in the time warp, cosmic portals to
the MIDDLE KINGDOM where dimensional borders are non existent. In
between battles on the "Light Front" we can take a trip to show
how they run.*****
Regards Thoth and Winifred.
Part 3 of 3.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Peter Kagel
"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> wrote:
>Dear Folks: I hereby start this thread (Thread24). Everyone please
>join in.
>John Winston.
You call this Thread24? I've seen Thread24 and this is not it. Please
refer to your ThreadManual under paragragphTweentie4 section Tweentie4
line Tweentie4. If not convinced please reduce vacuous slag viscosity
to Tweentie4 decibels...then the revelation begins.
John F. Winston
Subject: A Positive Note. Oct. 3, 1996.
Here is a bit of E-mail from a person on the Net.
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From: f
Subject: Threads
* Hi John!
I have found your articles to be of great interest...
Unfortunately I enter the news groups rather infrequently & I feel
that I am missing out on your insights... Is it at all possible for
you to mail your articles to me directly?
JW Yes I can add your address to a list of people that I send my
postings to each day.
* As well as send me all your previous postings?
JW It might be better if you can check the following web sites.
They are operated by two of my Net friends who keep web sites where
they save my postings. I think one of them is said to have more
than 400 of my postings in it. One of my posting was over 500 K
bytes long and is not in these sites. If you can access these
sites then I'll send most of them by way of E-mail. The only
person on this Earth who has them all is Steve Gambrell and he has
every posting ever done on a certain group that I will not mention.
He can be found on;
http://zeta.cs.adfa.oz.au/Spirit.html
The two web site that are devoted to only my postings are;
http://mcmfh.acns.carleton.edu.JW/
and the person's E-mail address is;
mhe...@carleton.edu
The last one of the two web sites is;
http://zeta.cs.adfa.oz/au/Spirit/JohnWinston/john-winston9/html
Be careful and read these posting just a few at a time because it
may cause you to go into mental burn out.
* Yours in eager anticipation...
Many Thanks & kind regards,
F
John Winston john...@mlode.com
John F. Winston
Dear Folks: I mentioned the person by the name of Steve Gambel.
I should have spelled his name Steve Gamble.
My goodness.
John Winton. john...@mlode.com
David Herron
Jamie,
While the sentiment is valid there's a couple points I wanna throw at ya:
- Those famous people of the past have to be incarnated later
on as >>>SOMEONE<<<.
- I've been regressed to a number of lifetimes and also seen many many
others regressed to a buncha lifetimes. This was while in training
to be a hypnotherapist; the school I was at stressed past life
regression work.
From your statement it sounds like you'd expect us all to be claiming
to have been Napoleon, John Paul Jones, Queen Elizabeth, Cleopatra,
or a number of other possibilities. Well, the overwhelming majority
of these regressions were not that at all but instead the average
person having average lives.
In fact one of the lifetimes I went back to many times (I guess
because I didn't get the full impact the first time?) IS as
a poor potato farmer in Ireland. Okay, I'm not certain he was
a potato farmer or in Ireland, but it was a feudal arrangement
and I was the poor serf. The fact that I ended up going back
there a bunch of times certainly showed it was important to my
psyche to heal that story.
- Do you always go around making broad assumptions over things
you know very little?
David
Jamie E. (jami...@usa.pipeline.com) wrote:
: "John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> wrote:
: >Subject: The Past. Sept. 26, 1996.
: APostman
: Disgruntled, but unarmed.
: >
--
"The really valuable thing is the Intuition. The intellect has little
to do on the road to discovery. There comes a leap in consciousness,
call it Intuition or what you will, and the solution comes to you and
you don't know how or why." - Albert Einstein
Bigfoot
In article <Pine.UW2.3.94.961002080450.29612A-100000@mlode>, John F.
Winston says...
> Here is a bit of E-mail from a person on the Net.
I find this cross-posted crap to be beneath even to gutter-bound
standards of my favorite newsgroup. John F. Winston is a self-
absorbed, mindless blow-hard without a trace of net-dignity in
him. He cross-posts all over the freakin' place as if what he
has to say is of interest to the average reader. It is not. It
is drivel. It is pap.
You got your own fucking NG. Not enough for you, asshole?
Stay the hell out of the fifty-odd0thers your cross-post
your trash to.
>From: f
>Subject: Threads
>* Hi John!
>I have found your articles to be of great interest...
>Unfortunately I enter the news groups rather infrequently & I feel
>that I am missing out on your insights... Is it at all possible for
>you to mail your articles to me directly?
If only the esteemed John F. Winston could carry all his weak
shit to private E-mail, it would be a wonderful day for USENET. '
However, it is painfully obvious that this is a faked post which
John sent himself for his own percieved aggrandisement and we are
to recieve no such deliverence from the reams and reams of pablum
he deems fit to spamm all over creation.
>JW Yes I can add your address to a list of people that I send my
>postings to each day.
Add your's to my shit list you vomitorium of prattle.
>* As well as send me all your previous postings?
A full posting of his tripe would bring the net to it's fucking
knees, and cause instant world-wide nausea to boot.
>JW It might be better if you can check the following web sites.
>They are operated by two of my Net friends who keep web sites where
>they save my postings.
How much does that cost you, you trust-funded-nothing-but-
time-on-your-hands-and-illusions-in-your-head wimp?
(Do I sound bitter, Johm? If I had to load this shit down by
modem like most folks do, I'd be homicidal. As it is I'm merely
fed up to fucxking *here* with your vacuous regurgitations comprising
close to thirty per-cent of the headers in my favorite newsgroup.)
> I think one of them is said to have more
>than 400 of my postings in it. One of my posting was over 500 K
>bytes long and is not in these sites.
No shit? And you are proud of this clogging, cloying waste of
bandwidth? You self-serving fuckhead.
> If you can access these
>sites then I'll send most of them by way of E-mail. The only
>person on this Earth who has them all is Steve Gambrell
Whoa! World-class looser.
> Be careful and read these posting just a few at a time because it
>may cause you to go into mental burn out.
Duh. I go numb just reading your fucking headers!
>* Yours in eager anticipation...
Did your lap-dog write this?
>Many Thanks & kind regards,
Die die Die.
-Bigfoot
(The sad thing is there is nothing you can do about this
type of jerk-off artist but killfile him. My sympathies
to those of you who have no such capabilities in your
newsreader.)
David Herron
Hahah!
In the newspaper earlier this year there was a comic strip (Non Sequitur
I think) that showed a bunch of apes in the jungle picking fleas
off each other. One of their buddies is being let loose from a
cage and in the background there's a couple humans and a helicopter.
The ape is waving his arms frantically pantomiming flying.
One of the apes says something like:
There might be something to this alien abduction thing after all,
that's the third story like that this week.
David
cuthulu (cut...@rlabs.com) wrote:
: x-no-archive: yes
: On Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:56:11 -0800, "John F. Winston"
: <john...@mlode.com> wrote:
: >Subject: A Tale Of Catfish And Abductions. Oct. 1, 1996.
: If fish could think and feel, I bet getting pulled from the water on a
: monofilament line and placed in a creel would seem a lot like an alien
: abduction. And imagine the stories they'd circulate about the frying
: pan!
: {Kevan - www.rlabs.com}
: {Don't Drink Soap! }
: {Keep Out Of Eye! }
: {Dilute! Dilute! OK! }
: Copyright 1996 by Kevan Smith
: Archival Forbidden
Michael Straight
In article <Pine.UW2.3.94.961001154409.12403A-100000@mlode>,
>
> Here is some information that Winifred has just sent me. This
>contains religious material so be careful.
I think all copies of The Bible should come with a warning sticker like
that:
--------------------------
| WARNING: John_-_Winston |
| has determined that this |
| book contains religious |
| material so be careful. |
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WARNING: Michael Straight's .sig contains religious material so be careful.
John F. Winston
Subject: How To Live To Be 250 Years Old And Still Be Healthy.
Oct. 2, 1996.
As I started out on my trip to the San Francisco Bay Area to go
fishing I stopped for a few minutes to buy some fresh fruit at a
fruit stand in the town of Oakdale, Calif. While going up to the
counter to pay for the items I chance to see a number of cassette
tapes on the counter with something to do with health. The tape
was free and I could afford it, so I took one. Here is what was said
on the tape that was probably recorded about in 1994.
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Lady speaking: Dr. Wallace is not only going to talk about Cardiac
Myopathy but many other things. I pray that you will listen closely
and carefully, for what you hear may save your life or that of a
loved one. Dr. Wallace in 1991 was nominated for the Nobel Prize.
He has had many fabulous things in his life. There is no way to tell
you how pleased I am to have him here in Kansas City tonight. I want
to turn the time over to Dr. Joel Wallace. You all give him a big
hand.
Applause.
Dr. Wallace: How many of you grew up on a farm or had anything to
do with livestock? I tell you what, you are my kind of people,
because I grew up on a farm in west Lewis county, back in the 50's
and we grew livestock. We would feed them a diet of grain and put
vitamins and minerals in there food. I then noticed that we as
humans were not getting any mineral and vitamins in our food. I
wanted to live to a 100 years old and be healthy so I asked my
father the following questions, "Hey Pops, Why don't we get any
vitamins and minerals in our food like the rest of the farm animals
around here?" He then answered me in Missouri wisdom and say, "Shut
up son, you get all of this farm fresh food, be thanking for the
food your getting." I did shut up because I didn't want to miss any
meals.
I then went to the University of Missouri and got my degree in
Agriculture, and it was very interesting to me that I got my major
in Animal Husbandry and Nutrition and my minor was in Field Soils
and then I got into Veterinary school. When I got into veterinary
school I found out the answer to my question. We know how to
prevent and cure diseases in animals by nutrition. On the farm we
don't have Medicare, Medicine and every Hiliary to watch out for us.
If your going to make money on the farm you have to know how to
do it with feed and nutrition if you can. After getting out of
Veterinary school I went to Africa for two years being sort of a
Frank Buck. I worked with Marion Perkins who was on the TV show Wild
Kingdom. I did autopsies on large animals such as elephants and
rhinos.
Part 1.
John Winston. joh...@mlode.com
Jerry Watson
>
> Subject: A Positive Note. Oct. 3, 1996.
>
>
> .....................................................................
>
> From: f
> Subject: Threads
> * Hi John!
> I have found your articles to be of great interest...
> The two web site that are devoted to only my postings are;
[snip]
> Be careful and read these posting just a few at a time because it
> may cause you to go into mental burn out.
(jwatson) Remember AB's advice on the 10/2 show: "If you've had
something
put into your head, don't watch Dark Skies."
Since that seems to be the case; take this, brother; may it
serve you well
John F. Winston
Subject: 1,000 lb. Catfish It Would Be Nice To Catch. Oct. 2. 1996.
Here is something that may give you a tickle.
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Jenny Carter was walking her german Shepherd by a lake near her
Texas home when she says a monster catfish jumped out of the water
and swallowed the dog!
The incident was just the latest in a series of sighting of a
notorious giant catfish cruising the dark waters of Lake O' the
Pines near Longview.
But it was the first report of any fatalities.
Jenny, 26, says she had let her 85-pound dog, (Yogi weighes about
75 lbs. more or less), Sarge, run freely along the lake as she does
every night when she suddenly realized that something was terribly
wrong.
"Sarge let out a bark like I never heard before," she sobs. "It
really scared me, I ran over as fast as I could and I saw him
struggling with this monster in the lake.
"It was so big, I didn't know what it was. I never saw anything
like it in my life. I was screaming real loud and running to help
Sarge. But there was nothing I could do. I saw the fish swallow his
head and I went crazy. I guess I was hysterical and in shock."
Two other witnesses verified Jenny's gruesome tale - and now
authorities say they are on the lookout for the catfish, now turned
killer Prior to the incident involving her dog, there had been wild
speculation about the mysterious fish whom some have likened to the
Lock Ness Monster in Scotland.
There had been several sightings of the huge catfish estimated to
be 15 feet long and weighing 1,000 pounds. Although officials from
the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department had officially denied the
existence of the monster, sportsmen from as far away as Japan had
expressed interest in trying to catch the fearsome fish.
"It's worth a least $1 million to the person who can catch it."
says a gaming expert. "But it will take extraordinary equipment to
reel it in.
"We have reports that some fishermen had the killer catfish on
line, but let it get away.
"This fish is very, very powerful. He even straightened out a
20-0 shark hook - and that's not easy to do.
JW Now I figure what I need to do is to take Yogi The Telepathic
Dog and tie a big hook and line to him and run him around the lake,
but then Yogi being telepathic as he is would go for that. I did
once figure out a system similar to the one used in the movie called
Jaws to catch large sharks. I was thinking not very seriously
about catching some 1,000 lbs. blue fin tunas that sell for $8 a
lb. as raw fish that the Japanese people like to eat raw. These fish
fish were found in many places but he place I was interest in was
the area of the Pacific Ocean 125 miles off the coast of the island
of Tonga. The system consisted of using a flying fish for bait,
with a large hook, going to a 20 ft. long steel cable, the a 100 ft.
nylon glider pulling cable. Next came 4, 55 gallon steel barrels,
connected about one every 20 feet. Next was 1000 feet of 30 lb. test
nylon line which connected to a float and flag. Just put it in the
water the fish takes it and attempts to pull the 55 gallon barrels
under water, one at a time. You can even put a cloth sea anchor in
series with the last barrel and the 30 lbs test line. The line would
only be used to carry the float along with the fish. A radio beacon
could also be used on the float and you would have a receiver.
Source Of Information: October 8, 1996 -- SUN -- Page 13.
I personally believe that if the fish exists at all it will be
about a 400 pounder and only be about 12 feet long but then that is
pretty good for a Texas fish.
John Winston.
John F. Winston
Dear Folks: I enjoyed the discussion by David about how he
was regressed into previous lives. Maybe he can explain the procedure
that was followed in doing this.
John Winston.
Subject: A Request For Information. Oct. 3, 1996.
Here is a request from a person who asked for some advice. Maybe
some of you can give him a few suggestion too. Of course he may get
a few negative responses but then he is probably a big boy and can
take that along with the good. Here are my suggestions to him.
John Winston.
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From: B <blue...@earthlink.net>
Subject: a question
* Dear Mr. Winston, I found your home page as I was looking for some
one to communicate with about Ascension and what I should be doing
with my life to enhance my own life as well as others. I am 49 years
old, psychotherapist who is unable to work due to post polio syndrome
(I had polio at age four) and I am facing uncertainty about how to
proceed literally. I have a wonderful computer with voice
recognition capability (bought for me by a dear friend) and I am. I
must tell you I feel like a fool writing this to you.
JW Hey, I appreciate hearing from you.
* I read The Crystal Stair by Eric Klein and I felt like the key to
heaven had been handed to me. I cried with joy.
JW Sometimes that helps and starts the cleansing process.
* That was eight months ago and my body and lack of money etc. etc.
have dragged me down.
JW When you hit bottom, there is no way to go but up.
* I don't want to be down and I would like to connect with someone
somewhere, anywhere who is feeling what I'm feeling: a great desire
to uplift and be uplifted. I must admit that I have not put much
energy into seeking others who feel similarly.
JW I will put forth a thought form that you will come in contact
with someone who can become you teacher or wayshower. You can help
in this by saying, "Space people or Spiritual People, if you are up
there then please quide me to find the information and help that I
need." You will then be testing by some means that will nearly scare
your pants off but if you are sincere and show that you are made of
good stuff then you will be led to find that for which you are
seeking. Also ask before you go to sleep to be taken by the spiritual
people to someplace like the inside of Mt. Shasta to be taught. Ask
that your physical body be protected while you away from it. Say
hello to my friend Adama the high priest of the place. He is the
father of Sharula who is a young blond lady from the inside of Mt.
Shasta going around on the surface of the Earth telling people about
the people inside Mt. Shasta.
* Tonight I said Bruce do something. If you can give me any
assistance I will be forever grateful. Cordially, B B
JW Some of you listening might explain how to get on the echo called
_UFO. That should get his mind off his problems.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
APostman
dav...@crl.com (David Herron) asked me:
>- Do you always go around making broad assumptions over things
> you know very little?
> David
again - I made no broad assumptions - only an observation that
apparently put you on the defensive. Actually, I have tried to learn
as much as I can about regression - and hypnosis, especially the
succession experiences of the Tibetan Lama's. BTW - I usually dont
hear folks talking about specific personalities - usually I hear them
say things like "I was a prince of Atlantis (or some other legendary
place)" or that they were involved in an important and influencial way
on History. I dont fully believe in reincarnation - nor do I discount
it. I just observed that ALMOST ALL of the people I have read about
and heard about seem to have avoided mundain or simple lives (with
the wonderfull exception of the lama's) in order to work out their
Karma. Now look below again and tell me what broad assumption
I made.
APostman
Kris Campbell
john winston (windbag?) wrote:
> I then went to the University of Missouri and got my degree in
> Agriculture, and it was very interesting to me that I got my major
> in Animal Husbandry and Nutrition and my minor was in Field Soils
> and then I got into Veterinary school. When I got into veterinary
a minor in field soils???? holy cow! (sorry, didn't mean to pun)
kristine
John F. Winston
Subject: A Tale Of Catfish And Abductions. Part 2 of 2.
Oct. 3, 1995.
Prior to starting out on this trip I was talking to a person about
whether or not we should check Yogi into a Doggy Motel for the
weekend. Evidently Yogi had heard me say this because when we
started to go outside Yogi was on the bottom of our deck with his two
front paws on the bottom step and his head down as if he was praying.
He was saying telepathically to me the following, "Please, please.
please don't put me in the Doggy Motel. I hate it there. Whenever I
go to this place that is run by a Veterinarian I always wind up
getting a shot. The dogs and cats are there making a lot of noise
and I don't like it (JW Or something to that effect). So I let Yogi
go with us and he was a very happy camper.
Upon arriving at Milpitas I noted that my friend had an
ex-girlfriend with him. She had been with him before but had gone
back on drugs. She had run off with his credit card and had run up
thousands of dollars in bills without his permission. She had both
of her young children were taken away from her due to her actions.
I found out later that when she had left my friends house later that
day she was arrested by the police and taken to jail. She is also
on welfare.
After a while my friend and I decided to go fishing with a person
who had a 18 feet long fiberglass boat with an inboard Volvo engine
that had over 100 horsepower. It's called a Bayliner. We went out
on the San Francisco Bay to the area just off Candlestick Park where
the 49er football team plays. We were actually trying to catch
Stripped Bass and Halibut. When we were just off the end of the
San Francisco Airport runway we started catching Leopard Sharks.
They were running about 3 and one half feet long. You talk about
dangerous. When you let them loose in the boat they would start
around the bottom of the boat and knock everything out of the way.
I then was allowed to land something that appeared to be pretty big.
I was using 30 lbs. test line and was really horsing the thing in.
After 20 minutes of fighting it, it turned in to be a large Mana Ray
or Sting Ray. It was so big that we had to put in sideways to get
it in a big salmon net. People normally cut their line when they
get these things on because they have a 2 or three inch stinger on
their tail that can do some real damage. I wanted to land him and
bring it back because I am in a contest with a friend who was going
to the ocean to fish and I knew I would have to get something big
or I wouldn't stay ahead of him. The ray weighed about 40 lbs.
and was about four feet from wing tip to wing tip. The person
I'm in the contest with will probably say that shark and rays are not
true fish.
After getting back on land we were cleaning the shark and ray at
the person's house that owned the boat and he was operating a sort of
half way house for alcoholics and drug offended. Next door was a
house of people who were sort of like the Hell's Angels. They were
driving cut down Harley Davidson's and had a skull and cross bones on
the front of their house. One of the people there saw we cleaning
the Sting Ray and said to me, "Hey man those things make you have a
aphrodisiac effect. Boy if I just eat a small piece of that I turn
into a tiger. I'll be so great that my honey here will demand that
I marry her." I then told him that he could have some of it if he
liked, so he took out his long switch-blade knife and cut some off.
He went on his way rejoicing.
Part 2 of 2.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
E.Holmes
On 2 Oct 1996 19:54:43 GMT, Har...@psy.utexas.edu (Bigfoot) whined:
/In article <Pine.UW2.3.94.961002080450.29612A-100000@mlode>, John F.
/Winston says...
/
/
/> Here is a bit of E-mail from a person on the Net.
/
[...most of whine snipped...]
/You got your own fucking NG. Not enough for you, asshole?
/Stay the hell out of the fifty-odd0thers your cross-post
/your trash to.
No! my server doesn't get that group. I like it just
the way it is. And do you really have to cuss?
E.(whose kid might come to say goodnight any minute now)Holmes
--
E.Holmes at http://rampages.onramp.net/~eholmes/
"I don't crosspost. I post Followups to other people's Crossposted
posts on occasion." (rah...@sonic.net, Elf of the Redwoods, a.c.e)
John F. Winston
Subject: How To Live To be 250 Years Old And Still Be Healthy.
Part 2. Oct. 4, 1996.
We left our Dr. Wallach being a veterinarian of elephants and
rhinos in Africa.
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Dr. Wallace: People would ask me if I was a veterinarian to small
animals or big animals and I would tell them I was an extra large
animals vet.
After two years of working there I received an offer to go to the
St. Louis Zoo and work with them. They wanted a wild life
veterinarian because they were given a $7,500,000 grant from the
National Institute of Health. What they needed was a veterinarian to
do autopsies on animals that die of natural causes in the zoo. I was
just overjoyed to do that and so I came back and did that. I also did
it in many other zoos. I was also was supposed to look for a species
that was ultrasensitive to polution. So I was to find a species that
was very sensitive to polution so we could use them in a manner
similar to the way the Welch miners would place a canary in a wicker
cage and take it down in the mine. The canary would drop over dead
when subjected to methane or carbon monoxide gas and the miners would
leave the mine before they were killed by an explosion or they
suffocated. They wanted to do this research because during the 60's
they didn't know much about polution and no one knew exactly what to
do. Over a period of 12 years I did 17,500 autopsies on over 454
species of an 3,000 human beings who lived in close proximity to zoos
and the thing that I found out was this; every animal and human being
that dies of natural causes dies of nutritional deficiencies. That
fascinated me. It took me back to those calves, I said, "Gee that's
fascinating." Everybody was dieing of nutritional deficiencies and
we could document this by autopsies, both chemically and biochemical
and so forth and things me saw with the eye on the autopsy table.
I wrote 75 scientific articles, 8 multi-authored text books and one
text book of my own that costed $140 bucks and I'm sure all they did
was use them for door stops. I couldn't get anybody excited. I was
on 20/20, 1,700 newspapers. I was on magazines. I was on every
network TV that you can think of. Guess what? I couldn't get anyone
excited back in the 60s about nutrition. So what I did was go back
to school and became a physician, to use everything that I had learned
in veterinary school about nutrition on human patients, and to no
surprise to me it worked.
Part 2.
John Winston john...@mlode.com
Bigfoot
In article <32546898...@news.onramp.net>, E.Holmes says...
>/You got your own fucking NG. Not enough for you, asshole?
>/Stay the hell out of the fifty-odd0thers your cross-post
>/your trash to.
> No! my server doesn't get that group.
Get a real provider then, dweeb.
>I like it just the way it is.
Figures.
> And do you really have to cuss?
My rant was directed at John F., Why you choose to assign
yourself as its subject speaks either to your consuming
alliegence to this man or your own percieved self-importance,
both of which actually amount to the same thing.
-Bigfoot
Jaffo
On 26 Sep 1996 02:12:42 GMT, su...@ix.netcom.com(Larry Suter ) wrote:
:"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> writes:
:>Dear Folks: I hereby start this thread (Thread24). Everyone please
:>join in.
:
:Remember the good old days of Thread23? It started out so
:innocent. John_-_Winston entreating us to join in this funfilled
:thread that he had just created. Remember the time Fonzie saved
:Thread23 from certain extinction by out-cooling Mork from Ork?
:Ah, those were happy days.
Last week I saw the Happy Days where Fonzie out cooled the burglar that was in
Richie's house.
That was the one where Ralph and Potzie were going to watch this French porn
film while Richie's parents were out of town, but the burglar broke in and so
when Ralph and Potzie came by they were held hostage, too.
Then they get locked in the bathroom and try to have Ralph climb out of the
window, but it's too high so the burglar catches him.
I think they did it better in "Home Alone."
Jaffo
--
http://rampages.onramp.net/~jaffo
alt.politics.jaffo
Jaffo
On 26 Sep 1996 14:36:03 GMT, jnut...@mathcs.carleton.edu (Jack Nutting)
wrote:
:John F. Winston (john...@mlode.com) wrote:
:: Subject: New UFO TV Show. Sept. 25, 1996.
:
:: On thursday Sept. 26, 1996, at 8/7 C. the TV show Chariots Of The
:: Gods will be on Cable Channel 10 in Sacramento, Calif. I figure
:: this will be a good one and plan to watch it.
:: John Winston.
:
:I dunno man, that's von Daniken's work... does anyone really pay
:attention to that guy anymore? Last I knew, he had been pretty
:thoroughly discredited...
Asking that question of John is like asking Moses if he believed in God.
Maverick
On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Jaffo wrote:
> Asking that question of John is like asking Moses if he believed in God.
>
> Jaffo
Maelstrom
Maverick wrote:
> Moses didn't really exist. He was a myth.
I thought I'd spanked you off this thread.. Oh wait that was thread 23.
Doh. Whatsa matter you think that we've all FORGOTTEN you were too lame
to get an alien to have sex with you? As for your latest excursion in
inanity I can inform you young man that I went Astral travelling back to
the past just last night in fact and I can tell you that Moses did,
indeed, exist. He got a real laugh out of your post. He said to tell you
you were a prat for him PERSONALLY. He also said that he thought anyone
would have to be INSANE to use microsoft explorer. If you like I will go
back and get him to give you some proof he existed. Until next time stay
tuned and may the force be with you.
--
"Is this supposed to scare me the only thing that does is
the fact that you are still out in society"
Mysia <lat...@ameritel.com>
Maelstrom
Bigfoot wrote:
>
> Duh. I go numb just reading your fucking headers!
I doubt anyone who had bothered to read this far was overly suprised by
this.
John F. Winston
Dear Folks: I will not post to this thread anymore. Everyone
please go to Thread25.
John Winston.
John F. Winston
Subject: Angels And UFOs. Oct. 5, 1996.
I just got in a free copy of the Center Of Attention newsletter and
then I found it also on the Net. So if you have already read it then
don't strain you brain, Jane.
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COA#48 Angels to Handle Mass Landings
CENTER OF ATTENTION NEWSLETTER #48
2221 BOWERS AVE. SANTA CLARA, CA. 95051
(408) 241-7981 FAX or PHONE
Sheldon Nidle Update
by Jason Dunlap
More than 150 people heard Sheldon Nidles Sept. 26th lecture about
mass landing of extraterrestrials sometime between Nov. and Dec. '96.
Apparently, there was nobody that didn't have some knowledge of UFO
activity because there weren't any heart attacks. Once again,
Sheldon kept us on the edges of our chairs wondering what's going to
happen next. He began by nonchalantly describing the various types
of UFOs, what they looked like, how big they were, where they came
from, how they were powered, and who would be in them when they
landed. Over the course, of the more than 3 hour lecture, he
described what was about to happen, and how it will be the most
astounding sight anyone has ever seen!
The Ship
From Andromeda we have the "Sombrero", powered by 5 crystals that
actually use the pilots energy field to power the ship. This is a
small scout craft that carries 3 people.
The Andromedans also sport the cigar-shaped, utility "mothership"
that hold 5 to 10 thousand people and measures 5 miles long. The
"real" motherships are about 100 miles long.
The Arcturians will have supply ships that look like two wok lids
welded together. The motherships are huge. Their scout ships look
somewhat like a cowboy hat with a soccer ball inside. All their
ships land on struts and are exited thru the bottom by way of a
force field. Apparently, you just jump thru the hole and a
force-field lowers you gently. Kinda like a fireman's pole without
the pole. I wonder how many times the darn thing has goofed. These
ships last over a thousand years... depending on maintenance, of
course.
The Pleiadians have several different ships, the beam ships,
atmospheric ships, and others. The Sirians have 100 foot diameter,
spherical, scout ships, and a "merkaba" ship that looks like two 4
sided pyramids on top of each other.... kinda diamond-shaped. Then
there the triangle shaped defense ships that look a lot like the
"kitty surprise" food bits I used to give my cat. But that's another
story....
For those skeptics out there, I want you to know that I just don't
accept all this stuff without thinking, but I'll tell you, you just
can't make up stuff like this! The vision that Sheldon imparts
includes not only details of what the ships look like inside and
out, but what the Sirian commanders, Angels, etc. are thinking,
planning and doing. Maybe I don't know people as good as I think I
do, but if Sheldon is lying, or nuts, I'd have to face the fact that
my powers of discernment are useless.
Before the Landings
We did not get a very specific window for when the "big event"
will take place. I asked, but Sheldon said that the best he would do
is sometime between Nov. and Dec. The exact date may even fluctuate,
plus or minus a few days, and to give that date out could give our
secret governments an opportunity to cause trouble. You can narrow
it down some, though. He said he would have two more lectures: one
in Oct. and one in Nov. Not much point in having lectures after the
landings, so they will probably happen after that. Since having
lectures closer than two weeks apart probably won't happen, and the
October lecture, most likely, will be in the fourth week, landings
before Nov. 7th seem unlikely. My guess has been Nov. 11th, but
that's just a guess. In my opinion, much more should happen, prior
to the mass landing than Sheldon says is planned, but what do I
know? However, there is enough planned to make the whole scenario
self-evident, (at least to lightworkers), two or three weeks
beforehand, which means most of us should "know" sometime between
Oct. 15th and Nov.1st. I'll tell you why.
The first verifiable events will involve fly overs of UFOs in
formation, over all major cities in the Northern Hemisphere,
beginning any day now. It's already beginning in the Southern
Hemisphere. (see UFO Update) The way Sheldon explains it, these
fly overs will steadily increase, once they start, until every major
city in the world could be having a fly over, simultaneously. That
being the case, there is no chance it will be ignored.
Meanwhile, representatives of the Galactic Federation have met, and
are still meeting with many people within the U.S. government and
powerful people within the "secret government" and secret societies
in order to convince them to reveal the "truth" to society and agree
not to attack or in anyway cause any unfortunate incidents. They
won't, though. Apparently, most of it has fallen on deaf ears. All
they seem to hear is, "Resistance is futile" and some are willing to
kill us all, if necessary, but that should not surprise anyone. I
think the point is, that resistance, actually is futile, and the
Galactic Federation has made sure of it.
When the mass landings begin, 15.5 million ships will descend and
land in a matter of only several hours. Sheldon says that the
contact teams are divided up in groups that will meet with humans in
different parts of the world. The Americas, Europe and Asia will
mostly be met by Pleiadians and those from Pegasus constellation.
The Sirians will land in Africa and Polynesia, Casseopians will land
in New Zealand, and Africa.
Just before the landings take place, Federation ships will
temporarily shut off all military aircraft, totally neutralize all
bombs, nukes, ships, and technological weaponry, regardless of its
sophistication. Furthermore, all mechanical devices, cars, machines,
appliances, even guns, will become "frozen" tight and inoperable.
Talk about coming to a screeching halt!
This will all be temporary, and then things will work again. While
things are inoperable, all guns and weapons will be beamed up to the
ships. Depending on what the governments and militaries are
planning, this could happen just hours or days before the landings.
They have made it clear to all militaries that interference will not
be tolerated, but no loss of life will take place, because if you
happen to be flying in a plane, it will stop working, but a ship will
bring you safely to a landing. That goes for cars and boats, as
well. They have the capability of actually dematerializing the pilot
from a fighter and bringing him on board their ships, and then gently
lowering the plane to the ground. At this time, all technological
communication will be shut down, no phones, radios, radar, HAARP,
even all those secret devices the governments got from the Greys,
won't work. Everyone will be in the same boat. At the moment the
mass landings take place, all world governments will be dissolved
by the Angelic Hierarchy and a temporary governing system will be set
up that will include humans, by the Council of Elohim. The Council
will also be working on a special grid system that will allow them
to be seen and experienced by us.
JW I don't know if any of this will happen. I hope it will but the
space people have a tendency to do things in the fullness of time.
Maverick
On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
> From: Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au>
> Maverick wrote:
> > Moses didn't really exist. He was a myth.
>
> I thought I'd spanked you off this thread.. Oh wait that was thread 23.
No...no worthless Australian would have a chance of that.
> inanity I can inform you young man that I went Astral travelling back to
> the past just last night in fact and I can tell you that Moses did,
> indeed, exist. He got a real laugh out of your post. He said to tell you
You winston fans are really insane aren't you...or is that just a result
of living in Australia?
> you were a prat for him PERSONALLY. He also said that he thought anyone
> would have to be INSANE to use microsoft explorer. If you like I will go
WEll, you must be insane...I'm not using microsoft explorer...perhaps
you are.
Larry Suter
I know I'll be writing Thread24 on my checks for weeks.
--
YONDERBOY: It's a long par five up to the Washington Monument.
Maverick
On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
> From: Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au>
> Maverick wrote:
> > No...no worthless Australian would have a chance of that.
>
> of .au. You must be very proud of yourself. Only one thing you forgot
> and that is if you spent some quality time with ARK instead of
> worshiping art-bell you would know that I have officially been
> designated as AUSTRIAN. In spite of what the Germans say WE have the
au may be austrian on your envelopes, but it's certainly Australian on
the net. Perhaps, I should give you some australian emails with the
extension .au on it and you can fight it out with them.
Maverick
> > - and hypnosis, especially the succession experiences of the Tibetan Lama's.
>
You misspelled "misspelled."
Maverick
On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
> address being from Australia. I'm an AUSTRIAN from PERTH who is forging
an austrian from Australia? Now I know where all the rumors about
people from Perth come from. Have many pet sheep?
Bill Bonde
Maverick <bret...@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.HPP.3.95.961006...@steroid.ecst.csuchico.edu>...
> On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
> > From: Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au>
> > APostman wrote:
> > > - and hypnosis, especially the succession experiences of the Tibetan
Lama's.
> >
> > You mispelled Llamas.
>
> You misspelled "misspelled."
>
Misspelling 'misspelled' when flaming someone for a misspelling. Now that's
a mistake.
Bill Bonde
Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au> wrote in article
<325890...@web.net.au>...
> Maverick wrote:
> > Perhaps you are just ashamed of being from Australia...or more likely,
you
> > aren't smart enough to forge an address correctly.
>
> No no you clueless fool. If I was an AUSTRALIAN why would I forge an
NO, it should be 'If I *were* an Austrailian...." not "If I was an....",
you git.
Linda Dietrich
On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maverick wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
> > From: Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au>
> > APostman wrote:
> > > - and hypnosis, especially the succession experiences of the Tibetan Lama's.
> >
> > You mispelled Llamas.
"llama" is the animal, "Lama" is the Tibetan spiritual leader. THERE
IS A DIFFERENCE.
>
> You misspelled "misspelled."
>
>
>
Linda Dietrich
On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, APostman wrote:
> Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au> wrote:
>
> >APostman wrote:
> >> - and hypnosis, especially the succession experiences of the Tibetan Lama's.
>
> >You mispelled Llamas.
>
> Dancing Llamas? But where is Sven?
>
> APostman
>
> Serf1 - He's a king
> Serf2 - Howdya know he's a king?
> Serf3 - He aint got shit alloverem!
>
Monty Python -- Holy Grail
Maverick
On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, APostman wrote:
> got a smile a mile wide and a contagious laugh. I hope to meet
> him some day.
I think that Dali Lama is just a kid isn't he?
David F Lynch
Bill Bonde (bi...@halcyon.com) wrote:
: Misspelling 'misspelled' when flaming someone for a misspelling. Now that's
: a mistake.
In my syllabus for Htrae Science (which is a wonder to see by itself),
my prof comes down hard on "mispellings".
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Maelstrom
Maverick wrote:
> No...no worthless Australian would have a chance of that.
Very good. I see you've managed to decipher the hitherto secret meaning
of .au. You must be very proud of yourself. Only one thing you forgot
and that is if you spent some quality time with ARK instead of
worshiping art-bell you would know that I have officially been
designated as AUSTRIAN. In spite of what the Germans say WE have the
best beer in the world.
>
> You winston fans are really insane aren't you...or is that just a result
> of living in Australia?
I telepethically sent this to an Australian friend of mine. Apparently a
national newspaper the next ran the headlines "ANALBOY SAYS AUSSIES ARE
INSANE". There was a mass cultural identity crises with several group
suicides and a massive rise in immigration to Austria.
> WEll, you must be insane...I'm not using microsoft explorer...perhaps
> you are.
Perhaps I am. I didn't say anything about Microsoft. MOSES DID. If you
have a gripe with this then I will relay this to him but I don't see
what insulting me has to do with it.
Maverick
> > No...no worthless Australian would have a chance of that.
>
> Very good. I see you've managed to decipher the hitherto secret meaning
> of .au. You must be very proud of yourself. Only one thing you forgot
> and that is if you spent some quality time with ARK instead of
> worshiping art-bell you would know that I have officially been
> designated as AUSTRIAN. In spite of what the Germans say WE have the
> best beer in the world.
Hmm...what kind of troll are you Maelstrom? I just suscribed to the
austrian newsgroup and all the other austrians have the .at extension...
Maelstrom
Maverick wrote:
>
> On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
> > From: Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au>
> > Maverick wrote:
> > > No...no worthless Australian would have a chance of that.
> >
> > Very good. I see you've managed to decipher the hitherto secret meaning
> > of .au. You must be very proud of yourself. Only one thing you forgot
> > and that is if you spent some quality time with ARK instead of
> > worshiping art-bell you would know that I have officially been
> > designated as AUSTRIAN. In spite of what the Germans say WE have the
>
> the net. Perhaps, I should give you some australian emails with the
> extension .au on it and you can fight it out with them.
You seem to have some problem with Australians Maverick. Is it OUR fault
aliens won't have sex with you? Was it an AUSTRALIAN who said you were a
lamer? No that was Moses if you recall. Were you one of those boys being
molested by giant kangaroos at the closing ceremony in Atlanta? I
suggest you see a therapist about these inner turmoils. I'll give you
the name of mine if you like. We often go astral travelling together and
it was, in fact, he who suggested we talk to Moses.
Astrally yours
Maelstrom
Maelstrom
Maverick wrote:
> Perhaps you are just ashamed of being from Australia...or more likely, you
> aren't smart enough to forge an address correctly.
No no you clueless fool. If I was an AUSTRALIAN why would I forge an
address being from Australia. I'm an AUSTRIAN from PERTH who is forging
an Australian Email address. And I think I did a damn good job. It sure
had you sucked in didn't it? Admit it.
Maelstrom
APostman wrote:
> - and hypnosis, especially the succession experiences of the Tibetan Lama's.
You mispelled Llamas.
APostman
Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au> wrote:
>APostman wrote:
>> - and hypnosis, especially the succession experiences of the Tibetan Lama's.
>You mispelled Llamas.
Dancing Llamas? But where is Sven?
APostman
Linda Dietrich <lin...@efn.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maverick wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
>> > From: Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au>
>> > > - and hypnosis, especially the succession experiences of the Tibetan Lama's.
>> >
>> > You mispelled Llamas.
>IS A DIFFERENCE.
But can both of them dance?
BTW - I was refering to the plural form - the Dali Lama is the
the singular leader of his people - but there are Lots O Lama's
in the Chain O Command. The ol Dali is a kewl dood too, he's
got a smile a mile wide and a contagious laugh. I hope to meet
him some day.
APostman
>
Watson Aname
In article <Pine.HPP.3.95.961006...@steroid.ecst.csuchico.edu>, bret...@ecst.csuchico.edu says...
>
>On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
>> address being from Australia. I'm an AUSTRIAN from PERTH who is forging
>
>people from Perth come from. Have many pet sheep?
You really should be discussing this with Stefan Kapusniak. Oh, Stefan...
there's a guy here wanting to talk about *pet* sheep.
APostman
Maverick <bret...@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, APostman wrote:
>> in the Chain O Command. The ol Dali is a kewl dood too, he's
>> got a smile a mile wide and a contagious laugh. I hope to meet
>> him some day.
> I think that Dali Lama is just a kid isn't he?
I doubt that it was a kid who addressed Congress in just the last
year - But by God he does have a kid's smile. So yes, inside he
is a kid with a kid's laugh. His body is should be 50 to 60 years
old by now. I believe he was born in the late 1930's.
APostman
>
joseph richard koleszar
In article <325A1F...@web.net.au>, Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au> wrote:
>Linda Dietrich wrote:
>> "llama" is the animal, "Lama" is the Tibetan spiritual leader. THERE
>> IS A DIFFERENCE.
>
>of Llamahood has long been sought after by enlightened people on this
>planet. In the case of the unfortunate death of the Dalai Lama before
>his successor has prepared for his journey into the third dimensional
>state a Llama is often apointed to stand in. Sureley a little education
>before one shoots ones mouth of is called for here?
I would like to remind Mr. Kapusniak at this point that LLAMAS ARE
JUST GIANT SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ralph -- thank you
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Linda Dietrich
On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Maelstrom wrote:
> Maverick wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, APostman wrote:
> > > in the Chain O Command. The ol Dali is a kewl dood too, he's
> > > got a smile a mile wide and a contagious laugh. I hope to meet
> > > him some day.
> >
> > I think that Dali Lama is just a kid isn't he?
>
> The "dali" Lama? Is he any relation of the deli Lama down our street who
> sells vegetables?
The Dali Lama (old man) Has reportedly died. His replacement is a kid who
will receive training until he can preform his duties. However, China's
government has interfered with the selection process, and Tibet is reall
pissed off. The new Dali Lama is supposed to be the reincarnated soul of
the old, neither family ties nor geographical location (or even religion
of the new-born) have anything to do with the selection process. Look up
Tibetan Buddhism for more details.
The Dali Lama is *NOT* a vegitable. :)
Linda Dietrich
On 7 Oct 1996, joseph richard koleszar wrote:
> In article <325A1F...@web.net.au>, Maelstrom <sve...@web.net.au> wrote:
> >Linda Dietrich wrote:
> >> "llama" is the animal, "Lama" is the Tibetan spiritual leader. THERE
> >> IS A DIFFERENCE.
> >
> >Can you prove this? Llamas are the next step in evolution and the state
> >of Llamahood has long been sought after by enlightened people on this
> >planet. In the case of the unfortunate death of the Dalai Lama before
> >his successor has prepared for his journey into the third dimensional
> >state a Llama is often apointed to stand in. Sureley a little education
> >before one shoots ones mouth of is called for here?
First take thy own medicine.
Watson Aname
In article <Pine.HPP.3.95.96100...@steroid.ecst.csuchico.edu>,
Maverick <bret...@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, APostman wrote:
>> in the Chain O Command. The ol Dali is a kewl dood too, he's
>> got a smile a mile wide and a contagious laugh. I hope to meet
>> him some day.
>
> I think that Dali Lama is just a kid isn't he?
Yes. This is but the start of The Great Cycle Of Life. A Dali Lama is
reborn as a kid, grows and learns until he becomes an old goat and dies.
Then the Dali Lama is reborn as a kid, and The Great Cyle Of Life turns
round again.
Watson "Really just a kid at heart" Aname
--
"Too late. IT'S MINE ALL MINE. HA HA HA!!!!1!" -- Ellen Holmes to an
overreaching Jaffo.
Maelstrom
Maverick wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, APostman wrote:
> > in the Chain O Command. The ol Dali is a kewl dood too, he's
> > got a smile a mile wide and a contagious laugh. I hope to meet
> > him some day.
>
> I think that Dali Lama is just a kid isn't he?
The "dali" Lama? Is he any relation of the deli Lama down our street who
sells vegetables?
Maelstrom
Bill Bonde wrote:
> NO, it should be 'If I *were* an Austrailian...." not "If I was an....",
If you were qualified to comment on either of these two joyous states of
being either an 'Austrailian' or a collection of full stops you would
surely be able to spell Australian right wouldn't you?
> you git.
This, I think, brings you up to a the status of a double git and clot to
boot.
Circling for the next round...
Maelstrom
Maelstrom
Linda Dietrich wrote:
> "llama" is the animal, "Lama" is the Tibetan spiritual leader. THERE
> IS A DIFFERENCE.
Can you prove this? Llamas are the next step in evolution and the state
of Llamahood has long been sought after by enlightened people on this
planet. In the case of the unfortunate death of the Dalai Lama before
his successor has prepared for his journey into the third dimensional
state a Llama is often apointed to stand in. Sureley a little education
before one shoots ones mouth of is called for here?
--
Jamie E.
jkol...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (joseph richard koleszar) wrote:
>I would like to remind Mr. Kapusniak at this point that LLAMAS ARE
>JUST GIANT SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Ralph -- thank you
Why cant a Lama aspire to Sheephood?
Rama Llama Ding Dong,
APostman
>
Jamie E.
Linda Dietrich <lin...@efn.org> wrote:
>The Dali Lama (old man) Has reportedly died. His replacement is a kid who
>will receive training until he can preform his duties. However, China's
>government has interfered with the selection process, and Tibet is reall
>pissed off. The new Dali Lama is supposed to be the reincarnated soul of
>the old, neither family ties nor geographical location (or even religion
>of the new-born) have anything to do with the selection process. Look up
>Tibetan Buddhism for more details.
>The Dali Lama is *NOT* a vegitable. :)
True, but he is not the Panchen Lama that you referred to when you
brought up China's intervention. Tenzin Gyatso, His Holiness, the 14th
Dalai Lama of Tibet is alive and well (unless you know of some news
that is less than 2 weeks old - he was in Austrailia then). He HAS
asked the Chinese government to disclose the location of the child
who is the reincarnation of the Panchen Lama who died about a year
ago. A better suggestion is to do a web search on "Dalai Lama"
or check out the Tibet Home Page.
APostman
>
David F Lynch
Linda Dietrich (lin...@efn.org) wrote:
: The Dali Lama (old man) Has reportedly died. His replacement is a kid who
: will receive training until he can preform his duties. However, China's
: government has interfered with the selection process, and Tibet is reall
: pissed off. The new Dali Lama is supposed to be the reincarnated soul of
: the old, neither family ties nor geographical location (or even religion
: of the new-born) have anything to do with the selection process. Look up
: Tibetan Buddhism for more details.
The person you were responding to was making a "cute" spelling flame.
It's spelled the Dalai Lama. Personally, I figured somebody would make
a surrealist crack.
: The Dali Lama is *NOT* a vegitable. :)
A prune is not a vegetable, cabbage is a vegetable.
--
Dave (not David) Lynch/Eligible Mutant Bachelor at large/ Email followups
Stefan Kapusniak
In article <539jfu$b...@madrid.visi.net>,
pet SH**P ??
That's just what those AGENTS of the WOOLY MENACE want you to think.
They bleat in wait, LULLING you into believing that you are truly
the master. But THEY LIE, with their UNEARTHLY and DEMONIC powers
they day and by day turn your BRANE to TOFU.
Soon you will be cowering before the lambent glowing eyes of your
'pet' SH**P, soon THE FLOCK [tinf] will being experimenting upon
your now MAZED MIND and UNRESISTING BODY.
And the you will NEVER, NEVER hear them HUM.
There is only one, final, solution.
KILL ALL SH**P, ALL SH**P MUST DIE!!!!
--
Kapusniak, Stefan M <----> YATTF : the short .sig for the short post
Linda Dietrich
On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Jamie E. wrote:
> Linda Dietrich <lin...@efn.org> wrote:
> >The Dali Lama (old man) Has reportedly died. His replacement is a kid who
> >will receive training until he can preform his duties. However, China's
> >government has interfered with the selection process, and Tibet is reall
> >pissed off. The new Dali Lama is supposed to be the reincarnated soul of
> >the old, neither family ties nor geographical location (or even religion
> >of the new-born) have anything to do with the selection process. Look up
> >Tibetan Buddhism for more details.
>
> >The Dali Lama is *NOT* a vegitable. :)
> True, but he is not the Panchen Lama that you referred to when you
> brought up China's intervention. Tenzin Gyatso, His Holiness, the 14th
> Dalai Lama of Tibet is alive and well (unless you know of some news
> that is less than 2 weeks old - he was in Austrailia then). He HAS
> asked the Chinese government to disclose the location of the child
> who is the reincarnation of the Panchen Lama who died about a year
> ago. A better suggestion is to do a web search on "Dalai Lama"
> or check out the Tibet Home Page.
>
> APostman
I seem to have got my Lamas confused/
Stefan Kapusniak
In article <53btul$s...@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu>,
>I would like to remind Mr. Kapusniak at this point that LLAMAS ARE
>JUST GIANT SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No they're not.
[BTW am I supposed to killfile you, or is that someone else?]
joseph richard koleszar
In article <9G1Wys0K...@zetnet.co.uk>,
Stefan Kapusniak <stefan...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <53btul$s...@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu>,
>
>>I would like to remind Mr. Kapusniak at this point that LLAMAS ARE
>>JUST GIANT SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> No they're not.
Are too.
> [BTW am I supposed to killfile you, or is that someone else?]
Someone else.
Ralph -- really
Lloyd McMahan
Various concerned netizens wrote:
[ ... lama vs. llama ... &c. &c.]
From the department of "Plus ca change,
plus c'est la meme chose": it was more
than 40 years ago that Ogden Nash wrote
a few lines, pretty much as follows:
The one-l lama is a priest;
The two-l lama is a beast;
But I will bet a silk pajama
There's no such thing as a three-l lama!
Later, as I recall it, annotating the poem
for an anthology, he wrote, " ... a reader
has directed my attention to a species of
conflagration known as a three-alarmer ... "
--tTFN, LM
E.Holmes
On 4 Oct 1996 17:21:27 GMT, Har...@psy.utexas.edu (Bigfoot) remarks:
/> No! my server doesn't get that group.
/
/Get a real provider then, dweeb.
Two isn't enough, I guess. How many more do you think I might need?
/>I like it just the way it is.
/
/Figures.
Yeah, with Holiday Season coming up, figures are hard to keep.
/> And do you really have to cuss?
/
/My rant was directed at John F., Why you choose to assign
/yourself as its subject speaks either to your consuming
/alliegence to this man or your own percieved self-importance,
/both of which actually amount to the same thing.
If you don't like crossposting, then why are you crossposting
to my group?
E.(of consuming importance only to my other self)Holmes
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E.Holmes
On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 02:05:51 -0700, in alt.religion.kibology, Maelstrom
<sve...@web.net.au> remarks:
/Maverick wrote:
/>
/> On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, APostman wrote:
/> > in the Chain O Command. The ol Dali is a kewl dood too, he's
/> > got a smile a mile wide and a contagious laugh. I hope to meet
/> > him some day.
/>
/> I think that Dali Lama is just a kid isn't he?
/
/The "dali" Lama? Is he any relation of the deli Lama down our street who
/sells vegetables?
Oh well, Maelstrom - sometimes they just never catch on. ;-)
Jan Sundstrom
I don´t agree with you.
Kalle
Dr Pepper
>jkol...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (joseph richard koleszar) wrote:
>>I would like to remind Mr. Kapusniak at this point that LLAMAS ARE
>>JUST GIANT SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SORRY, , , , , They are related to the camel. With a spitter and
everything.
>>Ralph -- thank you
Your welcome.
>
>Why cant a Lama aspire to Sheephood?
>
>Rama Llama Ding Dong,
I remember that song,,,,,, Hhmmm lets see now, , , , ,
>APostman
>
>
>
>>
>
>
>
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
Good Anytime
Linda Dietrich
On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Jan Sundstrom wrote:
> I don´t agree with you.
> Kalle
>
What are you not agreeing to...?
Jaffo
In alt.religion.kibology, on Wed, 09 Oct 1996 08:18:21 +0100, Stefan
Kapusniak wrote:
: [BTW am I supposed to killfile you, or is that someone else?]
Don't killfile Ralph. Ralph has been declared permanently ON-TOPIC in
alt.politics.jaffo (dammit).
It's the only way I can morally justify using his joke all the time.
IYKWIM
Jaffo
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