THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
Graham Berry
Over the past weeks I have had occasion to be very very impressed by
the boxed multi-volume multi-media submissions, of the Leona Valley and
Bouquet Residents, to the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors; and arguing
that the proposed Leona Valley Narconon facility "will negatively
impact the safety and welfare and property values of neighboring
communities."
Some of the information contained in those submissions is eerily
familiar to many who have had to confront the dark side of Scientology
for any length of time. For example: (1) [Exhibit D, pp.27-28] the
alleged drug bust frame-up of 'a California Health Department
official... who had produced a highly critical report,' resembles a
similar incident experienced by former top scientology official Jesse
Prince; (2) [Exhibit L, pp. 83-84, and Exhibit T, pp. 121-128] the
photographs of private investigators Edwin Richardson and Talon
Executive Services is not news to many who have spoken out against
Scientology and later had these people "investigating" them in the
neighborhoods and workplaces. Both Talon and Richardson have
"noisily" investigated me at Scientology's behest ("... when we
want some-one haunted we investigate." L. Ron Hubbard); (3) [Exhibit
L, pp.85-87] the expression of support and solidarity by L.A. Sheriff
Lee Baca is curious. One of his own lieutenants has warned me that my
life may be in danger from Church of Scientology paid hit men [and I
have received Secret Service protection in Germany]; (4) 'the
increased fire risk from so many smoking scientologists' is truly a
very serious and real concern. Hubbard was a chain smoker and many
scientology staffers try to 'assume his valence' by doing the same
thing.
Besides, Hubbard teaches that "the way out is the way through," as
demonstrated by the Hubbard comment that smoking more cigarettes is the
way to cure lung cancer! (5) The public health, safety and welfare
concerns addressed in Exhibits O, P and R are also serious issues. The
Purification Run down can be dangerous enough. But what about the
dangers of the "isolation rundown" if some-one has a psychotic
break, or 'Potential Trouble Source Type III (PTS-Type III)'
condition as it is known in the cult? We only have to remember Lisa
McPherson, all those scores of cockroach bites, and an ambulance ride
past the three closest hospitals to the one furtherest away where there
was a doctor who belonged to the Church of Scientology.
And what about the down-played relationship between Narconon and the
Scientology cult? Well there's a whole three minute submission right
there!
In fact, I was so impressed by the presentation of the Leona Valley
residents, and so disturbed by what some of them had to tell me, that I
attended the meeting of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors on
July 25, 2006. There are only five supervisors for the entire Los
Angeles County; it's been only five since the very early days of the
County. Consequently, they are probably the five most powerful local
politicians in the entire nation.
Each of the five Supervisors should be old enough to remember when
eleven top Scientologists (including Hubbard's wife) were convicted
and imprisoned in connection with the largest ever known criminal
infiltration of the United States government. That concerned
Scientology's 'Operation Snow White,' to rid all public files of
anything negative about the Church of Scientology. 'Operation Snow
White' continues today. There have been reports that the
communications from those opposed to the Leona Valley Narconon facility
have 'disappeared' from the files of the Board of Supervisors. Many
expert observers would opine that this has all of the "hall marks"
of a Church of Scientology-OSA "file culling project."
The Board of Supervisors meeting room probably seats 400 people and it
was nearly full. Later we would learn from the President of Narconon
International that Narconon [a/k/a the Church of Scientology] had over
200 people there to speak in favor of the Narconon facility. To my mind
that was an exaggeration by about 100.
Certainly there were a number of senior staffers from the Scientology
enterprise. One of the CSI Office of Special Affairs ('OSA')
in-house attorneys, Elliot Abelson, Esq., greeted me but otherwise
would not engage me in conversation. He limped slightly and looked
quite over weight, wan and ill. Another observer commented to me that
'one cannot get involved in all of the bad karma that surrounds
Elliot without it festering up inside.' Of course, Abelson's sick
look might also be put down to too much scientology 'processing.'
It may also be due to the same disciplinary affliction that ails his
OSA work buddy Mike Rinder!
The very Reverend Lynn Farny, OSA Legal Unit and Secretary of Church of
Scientology was more forthcoming. Lynn seemed genuinely pleased that
there isn't much scientology related litigation happening at present.
That made him available for other assignments. "I'll be back to put
things right," I told him. I think he knew I was talking of the
Vexatious litigant ruling and all of the associated perjury, bribery,
blackmail, fraud and corruption. Farny once claimed to be the one who
devised the Cipriano corruption directed against me. More recently,
Farny's wife (another Scientology staffer) was implicated in some
potential jury tampering.
I commented to Farny that Scientology seemed to be on a big building
buying spree in Europe (Paris, Brussels and Berlin). Right next door to
the European Community building I noted. "It's the new wave,"
Farny beamed. "I'm wondering where the wave of money is coming
from," I replied. "From the wave of new members," Farney shot
back, as he walked off. "Yeah, right, the wave of new members," I
replied as he walked off, too quickly for me to add, "in all of those
empty course-rooms on both sides of the Atlantic." Then I thought,
'why should Rev. Farny worry about empty course rooms at the bottom
of the pyramid now that the Church is again so feverishly involved with
corruption at all levels of government and law enforcement?' In
Scientology's copyrighted Policy Letter "Target Defense," Church
of Scientology staffers are informed of: "Target 1, depopularize the
enemy (Scientology's opponents) to a point of total obliteration;
Target 2, take over the control or allegiance of the heads or
proprietors of all news media; Target 3, take over the control or
allegiance of key political figures..."
If Lynn Farny had stuck around I might have asked about: the four
British Labor Party members of the European Parliament who are now said
to be Scientologists; or the several German judges who may have been
compromised by the cult; or the appointment of a guardian ad litem for
a Hamburg infant to ensure that the infant is protected from the cult
in a custody battle involving a very senior German Scientologist, her
son and her daughter-in-law; and whether the European prime real estate
buying spree is due to money-laundering as police in Hamburg, Brussels
and Amsterdam might suggest, or due to the movement of U.S. dollars
off-shore as other Europeans have suggested. And then I wondered what
he would have thought of Ursula Caberta still being where she is, and
what he thought of David Miscavige still being where he is? Isn't he
embarrassed by a cult leader who is accused of physically striking his
senior staffers on a regular basis, and extolling them to emulate actor
Tom Cruise? And the Church of Scientology compares David Miscavige to
the Pope?
I also spoke with Narconon's attorney who I recall introducing
himself as David Carlton, Esq. I was told his office is in Irvine,
Orange County. He recognized my face from somewhere but could not tell
me from where. I did not enlighten him other than to tell him I was
"part of the other side; the light side."
I was carrying my papers in a large manila envelope with a bumper
sticker attached clipped to it. The bumper sticker had been given to me
by the wonderful and inimitable Ida Camburn and it read:
www.xenu.net
What Scientology doesn't want you to read
I had walked in and out of the auditorium several times, carrying my
envelope past the block of about one hundred scientologists, before the
Sheriff's Deputies at the entrance door told me they had received a
complaint and to cover my envelope when inside the actual hall. They
were polite and I complied.
Shortly afterwards a group of two thuggish looking brutes and a woman
sat down opposite me and started staring non-stop at me. They were
surrounded by scientologists. The two men glaring at me looked too
thuggish to be even bad P. I. s. After awhile I went over and said to
the closest brute: "You are staring at me. Do I know you?" He
growled, "I don't speak English. I'm Italian." Well at least he
speaks some English, I thought. And then he turned to the thug behind.
"Are you private investigators?" I asked. "No, we're not
private investigators," the lady interrupted. Sure, I thought as I
returned to my seat across the aisle. Talon's own imported Sicilian
thugs more likely, and here to dish out the usual Scientology
'psycho-terror.' I'd bet that they even drive leased white Ford
Explorer SUVs!
It wasn't long before the Board of Supervisors reached the agenda
item so many of us were waiting for. Sam Dea was representing the
Regional Planning Commission. He reported that the Narconon facility
would have no substantial adverse impact upon the area. I thought he
either had not read or considered the Leona Valley and Bouquet Canyon
resident's submissions, or the cult had corrupted yet another public
official, high up in the Regional Planning Commission. If so, that's
more corruption the very Scientology-friendly Sheriff Baca will not be
investigating. Hundreds of brain-washed Scientology staffers can
provide a generous political donor base. They were for the late John
Ferraro when he presided over the re-naming of Berendo Street as L. Ron
Hubbard Way.
It was then Narconon's turn. Clark Carr, the President of Narconon
International and his land use consultant Tim Riley took the
microphone. It was announced that there was an agreement between the
Board and Narconon that the matter would be "remanded back to the
Planning Commission to consider select issues." Clark Carr of
Narconon confirmed the agreement and then very tellingly commented that
he was sorry that the more than 200 people in attendance to speak in
support of Narconon would not get to speak. However, he wanted to be
sure that the opponents would not be heard either. The Board of
Supervisors gave the head of Narconon that reassurance. "The
opponents will not be heard." That is the real reason I thought (or
'the end product' in scientology-speak).
However, the Supervisors themselves may have had second thoughts about
Scientology "grand fathering" so many concessions into the
Conditional Use Permit, and then decided to send the entire application
back to the Planning Commission where there will be a new examination
of purely land use issues such as fire, road, water and septic.
During the course of the morning I had observed both Clark Carr and
Elliot Abelson in long and extended cell phone conversations; possibly
back to the HGB building at 6331 Hollywood Boulevard. It was probably
discussed then, that the 200 plus scientologists waiting to speak could
not be exposed to the realities and truths that they would hear spoken
by the opponents and critics who were also waiting to speak.
Of course, the good news is that the matter has to go back to the Board
of Supervisors and we can have even more opponents in attendance to
argue why the Scientology enterprise should not be expanding into the
Leona Valley (no matter how deep the lake or dense the woods).
Certainly, a non-governmental, non-lock-down, voluntary drug rehab
facility should not have armed guards 24/7! But then the Scientology
base at Gilman Hot Springs should not be "armed and dangerous"
either. It is quite scary to think of the numbers of people who have
simply disappeared from that facility, or to hear stories of people
like Annie Broeker screaming from solitary confinement. If only the
dead could talk! See Brainwashing in Scientology's gulags, the RPF:
http://www.solitarytrees.net/pubs/skent/brain.htm
As I walked out of the meeting room a young woman attacked me. She
grabbed at my manila envelope, briefly exposed the 'WWW. XENU. NET
bumper sticker and then informed me that she was going to have me
arrested for displaying it. "We know you're working covertly,"
she said. Ah, OSA I thought. I told her to get her hands off me but she
wouldn't back off. She screamed for a nearby Sheriff's deputy to
come over, and he did. She was still grabbing at my arm and envelope
when I said to the Deputy that I wanted her arrested, for assault and
battery. The Deputy motioned for me to be silent while he called for
back-up which arrived in seconds. The back-up then escorted the
Scientology staffer away while the first deputy asked to see my bumper
sticker. "Ah," he said. "There were several comments about
that." I spoke to him about the two thugs who had been trying to
intimidate me. The Deputy said that several of the other Deputy
Sheriffs had noticed and worried about them as well. Then the deputy
escorted me out to the street and past the gathered scientology
executives and the woman who had wanted me arrested. I wondered as to
the real "crime?" A "Suppressive Person" being "covertly
hostile" by just telling the actual truth instead of a scientology
"acceptable truth." As defined by Hubbard, an "Acceptable
truth" is an explanation tailored for the needs of a particular
audience. Hubbard also wrote a document called 'TR-L' or
'Training Routine-Lying: the only way to control some-one is to lie
to them.' And those are religious scriptures?
Once outside the throng of Scientologists or Rondroids, I encountered
David Sweetland. David is a former scientologist who had progressed
'up the Scientology Bridge' to OT VII before leaving the
organization. When David left Scientology he was declared "a
suppressive person" and his wife of nearly 25 years, and his two
young adult children, were ordered to "disconnect from him." He has
not been able to communicate with them since. David can personally
attest to the painful horror of scientology family abuse and the
side-effects of the Narconon "culling process."
David Sweetland explained his opposition to the Leona Valley Narconon
facility as being very simple: 'If the Church of Scientology wants to
promote Narconon it is entitled to do so, but only within the confines
of the Church of Scientology [and not through a commercial false-front
such as Narconon], and only after a full disclosure [of the potential
consequences of what you are being exposed to] and your fully informed
consent has been signed, expressly waiving much of the medical, legal
and family assistance you might otherwise expect to receive.
As I wandered off into another Los Angeles hear-wave, I wondered as to
the sort of church that would have hired thugs at a public hearing to
determine whether or not the church's false -front should be allowed
to do business within a community. The question can be answered by the
final sentence of a St. Petersburg Times editorial: "The Church of
Scientology is like no other church that we know."
And so the Leona Valley Narconon facility, if it is approved, will be a
part of the totalitarian para-military Church of Scientology's
command structure; with Narconon money [$10 million p.a.] going
up-lines to the Church and orders coming down-lines from the Church to
the Leona Valley facility.
Would you want a religious mafia such as the Church of Scientology,
America's own Taliban, in your neighborhood, destroying America one
citizen at a time?
"By their deeds ye shall know them." Just watch Scientology's
shills attack me for this expression of free speech and opinion!
Graham Berry
Attorney
(310) 745-3771
graha...@comcast.net
Graham Berry
Patty Pieniadz
> THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
>
> Over the past weeks I have had occasion to be very very impressed by
> the boxed multi-volume multi-media submissions, of the Leona Valley
> and Bouquet Residents, to the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors; and
> arguing that the proposed Leona Valley Narconon facility "will
> negatively impact the safety and welfare and property values of
> neighboring communities."
>
Thanks for taking the time to write this report and for bravely standing up
to the cult.
Patty
Susan
"Patty Pieniadz" <ppienia...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ipoq6F...@individual.net...
> Graham Berry wrote:
>> THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
>>
>> Over the past weeks I have had occasion to be very very impressed by
>> the boxed multi-volume multi-media submissions, of the Leona Valley
>> and Bouquet Residents, to the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors; and
>> arguing that the proposed Leona Valley Narconon facility "will
>> negatively impact the safety and welfare and property values of
>> neighboring communities."
>>
>
> Thanks for taking the time to write this report and for bravely standing
> up to the cult.
Ditto!
Susan
Ted Mayett
<graha...@comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks for the report Mr. Berry. Appreciated.
--
Ted Mayett
http://www.solitarytrees.net
Michael Pattinson
Graham, wow, an excellent posting, and bravo for standing up to the
goons!
Narconon is just a cash cow for the cult.
I feel sure that one day the abuse of process we endured will carry its
karmic effects fully into the cult and correction and restitution will
be in order...
Best Regards,
Michael
ida...@aol.com
Thank you Graham for standing up and being counted. We all know how
the cult hates to hear from intelligent people.
Happy you still have the "xenu.net" sticker. I have one on my car
and
was glad to see a couple jot it down while I was parked at the
market.
One more informed is the way to go.
I wonder if Abelson is taking care of his health the scieno way?
Perhaps
he should realize he could end up dead or maybe on dialysis five
times a
week like my son as many others.
Take care Graham, watch your back and cya soon.
Ida
" You must have crossed the river to tell the crocodile he has bad
breath"
chinese proverb
.
banchukita
Wow! The girl who grabbed you thought you should be *arrested* for
having a *word* on a bumpersticker on your briefcase?
A word that's not even in the dictionary?
Scientology, Inc. is a terrorist organization with an antidemocratic
agenda.
-maggie, human being
Zinj
75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, banch...@yahoo.com says...
<snip>
> Wow! The girl who grabbed you thought you should be *arrested* for
> having a *word* on a bumpersticker on your briefcase?
>
> A word that's not even in the dictionary?
>
> Scientology, Inc. is a terrorist organization with an antidemocratic
> agenda.
>
> -maggie, human being
What I find disturbing is that the sheriff's deputies didn't
seem to even consider taking action on an assault and battery
committed *right in front of them*.
Zinj
--
You Can Lead a Clam to Reason; but You Can't Make Him Think
Feisty
"Graham Berry" <graha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1153934022....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Based on $cientology hoodwinking to make people believe that gooey, black purple and
other colored toxins come out on towels is a sign that the procedure works, then
technically, they would be sweating and urinating and defacating all of these toxins
into to sewer systems via toilets and sinks and showers.
That would be a SPECIAL CAUSE FOR ALARM! BIOHAZARD in the septic system!
Not only in the sense that the sewers would need to be special to handle biohazards,
(?) but the basis for which this claim has been made should go back to some sort of
medical checkoff to deal with this "breakthrough claim," and all the scientific
evidence to boot.
Would $cientology/Narconon send such harmful toxins out and not tell the planning depts
or medical authorities?
Of course there are none. But they should have to prove these toxic claims to the
planning departments!
$cientology is a public health hazard. Not only for their false claims, but their
trying to cover on top of them.
The same sort of claims that Tom Cruise sold in the New York Emergency Workers Detox
and the same sort of medical advice that made legislation happen in California
regarding the sale of ultrasound machines to individuals who were not trained to use;
and the same legislation that occurs when woman who can be screened for post partum
depression because of threats made by somone who would rather you choose this
alternative, unfit for human experimantation quackery;
This progam was originally considered "unfit for human experimentation."
So a room full of people to repeat lies is another way to say, we have no proof."
Hope it gets some extra time in the right department, because half of the battle of a
confidence ruse is being rushed with no time to let anyone look at the real
information.
Somehow it must have passed the public opinion department of proving that this is a
unsafe program, when Project Celebrity honed in on only a few.
So, it's "trust several hundred people who want to start another program and carbon
copy it, because it is unfit for human experimentation."
More false claims than Carter's had liver pills.
Thanks for the report,
Feisty
barbz
> In article <1153947861.966068.213760@
> 75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, banch...@yahoo.com says...
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>Wow! The girl who grabbed you thought you should be *arrested* for
>>having a *word* on a bumpersticker on your briefcase?
>>
>>A word that's not even in the dictionary?
>>
>>Scientology, Inc. is a terrorist organization with an antidemocratic
>>agenda.
>>
>>-maggie, human being
>
>
> What I find disturbing is that the sheriff's deputies didn't
> seem to even consider taking action on an assault and battery
> committed *right in front of them*.
>
> Zinj
I congratulate myself on having the good sense not to appear at a
hearing with serious Scientology interest with my arm in a sling
following last Thursday's surgery on it. I have no doubt that the cult
would have done *something* once they saw my wing in a sling.
It reflects on Scientology's character that I would even have such
concerns...
--
"I'm for the separation of church and hate."
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC(wdne)
xenu...@netscape.net
Magoo
"Feisty" <su...@skytoday.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Graham Berry" <graha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1153934022....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
Thanks Graham, for this excellent write up about what all
went on there. Good God, are they getting it, or not?
I couldn't quite tell what the next steps are. When do they
vote, or will there be another hearing?
Can you fill us in on what's next?
Thanks!
Tory/Magoo~~
PS: Super Congratulations to Dave Sweetland, ALL the Leonna
Valley people, and anyone else who went to partake. I'm sorry to say I could
not, due to work.
Excellent points, DAVE!
banchukita
Y'now, it occurred to me after reading Zinj's post that after twelve
years or so of following Scn, Inc. activities, that I *expect* that
kind of behavior from Scn, inc.
It disgusts me that we're so *used* to it by now that I didn't even
notice the assault and battery outlined in Mr. Berry's post as being
ignored by deputies.
I would *expect* barbz to be hassled, and maybe even hurt, if she had
showed up at that meeting.
Then again, I live near Clearwater.
In the past twelve years, I've seen the homes of individuals raided and
their computers confiscated because they dared to speak the truth.
I've seen our freedom to speak compromised by orange lines of paint.
I've seen murder go unpunished.
I've seen organizational policy of harassment deployed in a very real
manner on a community's population, strangling free discourse and
community identity, not to mention its tax base.
I've seen Mark Bunker, Mike Krotz, Jeff Jacobsen, and now Shawn
Lonsdale be assaulted in one way or another -- for the use of *words*
and that's just the ones I know about.
Now Graham Berry is assaulted for a *word*.
When does it end?
-maggie, human being
banchukita
Good point, Feisty!
I know when I had my thyroid fried with radiation, I had to stay
isolated from other people for like a week. The doctor actually told me
to flush twice, to be sure the radiation in my pee was carried away
from the house, so it wouldn't hurt others.
I asked at the time if there wasn't a better way to dispose of the
waste than to introduce it to the water system.
What would happen with a houseful of people leaking like that? Why
isn't that on the table with ANY NArconon facility?
-maggie, human being
Zinj
@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, banch...@yahoo.com says...
<snip>
> Good point, Feisty!
>
> I know when I had my thyroid fried with radiation, I had to stay
> isolated from other people for like a week. The doctor actually told me
> to flush twice, to be sure the radiation in my pee was carried away
> from the house, so it wouldn't hurt others.
>
> I asked at the time if there wasn't a better way to dispose of the
> waste than to introduce it to the water system.
>
> What would happen with a houseful of people leaking like that? Why
> isn't that on the table with ANY NArconon facility?
>
> -maggie, human being
The simple answer is that *nobody*, including Narconon, believes
in the 'theoretical basis' of the treatment.
Nobody believes it 'removes toxins'
Nobody believes it 'removes drugs'
Nobody believes it 'removes radiation'.
I've been asking for years now, based on the claims by Narconon
itself, and the 'Church' for its parallel 'Purif', why the
detritus of 'treatment' is being washed, completely untreated,
down the shower drains.
Why hasn't the EPA taken action?
Why don't the 'Church' or Narconon care?
Why isn't there any filtering or waste water treatment going on?
Because they all know it's crap.
Fr...@spam.spam
says...
>
>
>Each of the five Supervisors should be old enough to remember when
>eleven top Scientologists (including Hubbard's wife) were convicted
>and imprisoned in connection with the largest ever known criminal
>infiltration of the United States government. That concerned
>Scientology's 'Operation Snow White,' to rid all public files of
>anything negative about the Church of Scientology. 'Operation Snow
>White' continues today. There have been reports that the
>communications from those opposed to the Leona Valley Narconon facility
>have 'disappeared' from the files of the Board of Supervisors. Many
>expert observers would opine that this has all of the "hall marks"
>of a Church of Scientology-OSA "file culling project."
>
Did you really have sex with underage boys in NY?
Were you labeled a Vexatious litigant by the courts in California?
Were you disbarred from practicing law in California by the California bar
association?
Are you still abusing drugs?
Zinj
says...
Do you still think your 'Church's' religious dogma of
'shuddering into silence' works?
Why?
barbz
Have you stopped beating your wife, "Frank?"
Do you know what suborning perjury means?
>
>
>
>>Graham Berry
>>Attorney
>>(310) 745-3771
>>graha...@comcast.net
>>
>
>
Graham Berry
> America's own Taliban, in your neighborhood, destroying America one
> citizen at a time?
> "By their deeds ye shall know them." Just watch Scientology's
> shills attack me for this expression of free speech and opinion!
> Graham Berry
> Attorney
> (310) 745-3771
> graha...@comcast.net
And here the Church of Scientology's Office of Special Affairs,
operating out of the HGB Building at 6331 Hollywood Boulevard, Los
Angeles, acting robotically as brain-washed "ron-droids," begins it's
ad hominem attack using their own manufactured, perjured and disproven
allegations [for example: google search "Cipriano and Moxon."] Of
course, they also violate their IRS section 501 (c) (3) status and 1993
tax settlement agreement.
Graham Berry
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
<Fr...@spam.spam> wrote in message news:eaaac...@drn.newsguy.com...
Readers, the above is a splendid illustration of the loving communications
skills practiced by Scientologists, when encountering someone who tells the
truth about the cult.
--
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http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com - http://www.xenu.net
http://PerkinsTragedy.org - http://www.xenutv.net
http://xenu.com-it.net/txt/ildikoe.htm
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.scientology-lies.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
http://www.scientology-kills.org
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
* " You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way
you can control anybody is to lie to them."
* -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
*
* "...Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her
crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes
exist...."
* L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
*
* "All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All
mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!"
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Personal Affirmations"
Howard
Hello spam spam
I do hope you'll feel confident enough to turn your questions into
statements - together with any supporting evidence. Otherwise
people might just think that you're merely another OSA/CCHR/CoS Newsguy
creep.
"What are your crimes?" As if we didn't already know.
Howard
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John
"Zinj" <zinj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f327a459...@news.day.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <1154001566.104223.160860
> @s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, banch...@yahoo.com says...
>
> <snip>
>
> The simple answer is that *nobody*, including Narconon, believes
> in the 'theoretical basis' of the treatment.
>
> Nobody believes it 'removes toxins'
> Nobody believes it 'removes drugs'
> Nobody believes it 'removes radiation'.
>
> I've been asking for years now, based on the claims by Narconon
> itself, and the 'Church' for its parallel 'Purif', why the
> detritus of 'treatment' is being washed, completely untreated,
> down the shower drains.
>
> Why hasn't the EPA taken action?
> Why don't the 'Church' or Narconon care?
>
> Why isn't there any filtering or waste water treatment going on?
>
> Because they all know it's crap.
>
Sometimes there's urine as well.
rockyslammer
Exellent report.
As the person who (shamefully) delivered the Saint Hill (real one)
purif for many months at my home sauna - for thje "boys" only - I saw
many many purifs delivered. Saint Hill didn't have a sauna and I did -
when the purif was first "invented".
Not once did I see any "dirt", "minerals", "toxins" or anything else
sweated out on the nice clean white towels I provided. Nor did I see
"anything" turn on in the sauna. Not once did I hear anything positive
about the rundown. Yes there were those cases that had heavy drug
usage including LSD. No I didn't see any "trips" in the sauna as I was
told to watch out for - as the locked away LSD would re-enter the blood
stream again!
In fact the opposite. In my own case my stomach was burnt by too much
vitamin C - ever since then I have had to take medication to ease the
burning sensation in my stomach. Drinking an egg cupful of oil?
Massive niacine flushes? Bollocks!
I did have someone have an epileptic fit in the sauna which was
mindblowing. Can you imagine getting a naked body out of a sauna,
writhing, with a damned hot stove inches away? I never saw that person
again, although there was a full recovery a few minutes later. I guess
Tory can tell us about that!!
Purif? I wouldn't give a &*^%$# for it! It is total bollocks and you
can tell them I said so!
rockyslammer
I am being defamed and forged here
Graham Berry schrieb:
> THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
>
> Over
Libel on L. Ron Hubbard snipped. The website on Graham Berry is still
up and running strong.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry1.html
Barbara Schwarz
Zinj
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, Stilllov...@myway.com
says...
And still anonymous, although there is none to little question
that the website is a function of the 'Church' of Scientology,
which is merely too cowardly to take credit for it.
On the other hand, the information on Barbara Schwarz that's
available on Wikipedia is almost exclusively taken from her own
98 episode potboiler 'Barbara Schwarz Reveals Shocking News!'
and court documents of her own instigated bizarre lawsuits.
Even her fantasies of being defecated on by dogs are directly
taken from her own self-published if fanciful 'history'.
Lermanet.com
After firing my lawyers in RTC vs Lerma for telling me not to explain
certain things to Judge Brinkema in RTC vs Lerma I filed a motion for
reconsideration describing what Scientology's plan was for the raid.
Graham Berry volunteer'd HOURS of his tim on long distance telephone
call to help me write the following brief. The motion was denied,
however the materials in the biref including the exhibits, which
included power processing through OTIII, i believe, the Geoffrey
Filburt versions, which has been been filed for a copyright 1 month
before RTC filed theirs at Exhibit A.
And the description of what scientology;'s plan was for the raid, the
scenario offerred for consideration makes everything else they did
make sense.
motion for reconsideration in RTC vs Lerma Pro Se (denied)
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/motion22.html#III.%20Scientology's%20unclean%20hands%20towards%20me
II. Additional facts and arguments for the courts consideration
The following part of this declaration was originally distributed by
mail and electronic form as a petition for redress and I have chosen
to keep it more or less intact, as even in its sometimes clumsy
wording it addresses issues that were not articulated by counsel.
1) Copyright to large portions of the Power processes, R6EW, the
Clearing course, and OT 1 through 7 and some of the 'Confidential' L
series, (inclusive of what RTC falsely describes
as 'Advanced Technology') was granted by the US copyright office to
Geoffrey Filburt April 25 1982, in a publication called Excalibur
Revisited' which includes massive word-for-word transcriptions of
materials I recall as being Scientology.... some 450 pages, single
spaced typing. A true and correct copy of excerpts of this file as
obtained from America Online is provided as Exhibit A.
2) The RTC's filed copyrights for these materials are dated May 12th
1982.
3) Mr. Filburt claims to have received permission from Hubbard to do
as he wished with the materials of Scientology.
4) I prompted Homer Smith to call Mr. Filburt, and get his permission
to post these materials to the Internet in the fall of 1994. They have
been available on America Online for nearly two years.
5) They are not identical to the Fishman Geertz materials, which are
an earlier version of the "AT" materials than those Mr. Filburt
included, however, they are identical in substance to the original
works, yet are mutually agreed by some kind of consent decree to 'Not
be Scientology'.
6) If a large portion of the AT materials have in fact 'not been
Scientology' then the true nature of this lawsuit by the 'RTC' is
apparent. I did not recall the existence of this document or it's
implications to this case until approximately Dec. 15th, when I
brought it to the attention of Mr. Kronhke, in spite of the fact I was
party to the original phone call to Mr. Filburt to get permission to
post these materials to the internet in the fall of 1994.
7) Throughout the preparation for this case, and directly resulting in
extreme expense for my
legal team, I have been deprived of the means to mount my own defense
by not having my personal records to refer to during this massive
litigation. A box of affidavits which I kept in order to provide for
my own defense, were 'sealed' by the court, and were unavalible to
educate my attorneys or otherwise use to argue the compelling public
interest of posting the Fishman Geertz affidavit. Included in this
sealed box was a translation of
Exhibit A
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/exhibita.html
----------------------------------------------------------
Graham Berry knows what Scientology really is
that is his only real crime.
and
Thanks again for your willingness to help that night,
i believe though denied, it made a difference...
nobody else was willing to help me at that time.
Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake
If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!
29 November 1995 - Memorandum Opinion Judge Leonie Brinkema
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "
The internet is the Liberty Tree
http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html#psychiatry
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist4.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/altreligionscientology-killfile-settings.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology-and-occult/
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
both with IMAGES!!
"Scientologists believe that most human problems
can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial
people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million
years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters"
to individuals in the contemporary world, causing
spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives
of their hosts"
[Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion]
What do we get from getting people out of scientology?
We create an individual who has become a Houdini of
all mind traps.. folks who won't be fooled again.
People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental
traps..
We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being
who has the ability to break the strongest slave chains
of all.
Those forged of lies. (c) Arnaldo Lerma
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
Voltaire (1694 - 1778)
Feisty
"banchukita" <banch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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That is an issue, for sure.
>
> What would happen with a houseful of people leaking like that? Why
> isn't that on the table with ANY NArconon facility?
So the glossy brochures, the faux, the newspaper articles showing the claims of the
gooey towels may be brought to the department so that they may be aware of the claims
(as false as they are) being made.
Whatever the proof is they need to present it.
It's their proof that toxins come out of the body. And false. The double-edged sword
that they created. It is their job to protect the public from harm for what they claim,
and for them to prove authenticity of the claim. They say it is true, and that is a big
issue that should not be overlooked.
Feisty
Feisty
"John" <ju...@junk.com> wrote in message news:eabik1$43$1...@perki.connect.com.au...
"Urine the money..."
>
>
Feisty
Right and the community or taxpayers should not have to smell any form of it, real or
imagined.
Graham Berry
the staffs have been reading and circulating this thread. How helpful
of the Church of Scientology International Office of Special Affairs to
confirm and demonstrate their "policies and practices of "fair game"
and "the handling of suppressive persons." These 'policies and
practices' have, among others, been called 'psycho-terrorism" by some
European governments. As I wrote above, "by their deeds ye shall know
them." Clearly, the Zebra has not changed his stripes.
Incidentally, the day after the Board of Supervisor's meeting, during
the middle of the day, a procession of about 20 cars arrived at the
Scientology property, loaded up and then departed. 'Enquiring
minds' want to know what the Church was removing? Was it the
electronic switching gear that was being used to bug the telephone
calls of certain residents and to re-route certain calls to the Church
of Scientology itself? Some of the illegal phone switching equipment
was discovered and the FBI was informed. However, the FBI, with its
usual deference to religious terrorism, referred the matter to the
telephone company which restored the equipment and service to normal.
Isn't it incredible that our government should fight religious
terrorism in the Middle East but ignore it here at home?
Graham Berry
graha...@comcast.net
Susan
I need some clarification, just to be sure that I'm getting this correctly.
"Graham Berry" <graha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1154134771.7...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I understand that members of the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors and
> the staffs have been reading and circulating this thread.
Super!
>How helpful
> of the Church of Scientology International Office of Special Affairs to
> confirm and demonstrate their "policies and practices of "fair game"
> and "the handling of suppressive persons." These 'policies and
> practices' have, among others, been called 'psycho-terrorism" by some
> European governments. As I wrote above, "by their deeds ye shall know
> them." Clearly, the Zebra has not changed his stripes.
>
> Incidentally, the day after the Board of Supervisor's meeting, during
> the middle of the day, a procession of about 20 cars arrived at the
> Scientology property,
The Leona Valley property?
> loaded up and then departed. 'Enquiring
> minds' want to know what the Church was removing? Was it the
> electronic switching gear that was being used to bug the telephone
> calls of certain residents
The Leona Valley nonscientology residents?
> and to re-route certain calls to the Church
> of Scientology itself? Some of the illegal phone switching equipment
For sure this was illegal phone switching equipment and it was at the
scientology Leona Valley proposed site of Narconon?
> was discovered and the FBI was informed. However, the FBI, with its
> usual deference to religious terrorism, referred the matter to the
> telephone company which restored the equipment and service to normal.
The FBI then assisted in covering up illegal phone tapping???
Susan
Graham Berry
electronic bugging and telephone diversions was directed at those
opposing the Narconon facility and the FBI has refused to act upon
evidence of Scientology telephone tapping on at least three occasions
that I know of.
Graham Berry
graha...@comcast.net
Larry T.
Are you the real Graham Berry?
--
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan
Larry
(SNIP)
Susan
> The procession of 20 cars was at the Leona Valley property, the
> electronic bugging and telephone diversions was directed at those
> opposing the Narconon facility and the FBI has refused to act upon
> evidence of Scientology telephone tapping on at least three occasions
> that I know of.
Very interesting. I just got off of the phone with another critic and we
thought that someone had tapped into the phone line because the volume of
our voices was wrong and the other person heard an echo also.
Susan
Larry T.
news:-6qdnaNELfGsU1fZ...@comcast.com...
>
> "Graham Berry" <graha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1154141572.7...@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> The procession of 20 cars was at the Leona Valley property, the
>> electronic bugging and telephone diversions was directed at those
>> opposing the Narconon facility and the FBI has refused to act upon
>> evidence of Scientology telephone tapping on at least three occasions
>> that I know of.
>
> Very interesting. I just got off of the phone with another critic and we
> thought that someone had tapped into the phone line because the volume of
> our voices was wrong and the other person heard an echo also.
>
> Susan
>
Susan:
They didn't. The law SAYS that if you are being tape recorded on the
phone there must be a beep every 15 seconds or else it is illegal. So you
know it was not the Police or anything if anybody at all. So who cares if
they tapped your phone (if possible). If somebody did it to me, I don't give
a fuck. BUT, if they get caught, I can be a most gracious plaintiff.
Michael Pattinson
Larry T. wrote:
> "Susan" <enlighte...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:-6qdnaNELfGsU1fZ...@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Graham Berry" <graha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:1154141572.7...@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> The procession of 20 cars was at the Leona Valley property, the
> >> electronic bugging and telephone diversions was directed at those
> >> opposing the Narconon facility and the FBI has refused to act upon
> >> evidence of Scientology telephone tapping on at least three occasions
> >> that I know of.
> >
> > Very interesting. I just got off of the phone with another critic and we
> > thought that someone had tapped into the phone line because the volume of
> > our voices was wrong and the other person heard an echo also.
> >
> > Susan
>
in the wire tapping?
M
Susan
"Michael Pattinson" <mpatt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Larry T. wrote:
>> "Susan" <enlighte...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:-6qdnaNELfGsU1fZ...@comcast.com...
>> >
>> > "Graham Berry" <graha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:1154141572.7...@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> The procession of 20 cars was at the Leona Valley property, the
>> >> electronic bugging and telephone diversions was directed at those
>> >> opposing the Narconon facility and the FBI has refused to act upon
>> >> evidence of Scientology telephone tapping on at least three occasions
>> >> that I know of.
>> >
>> > Very interesting. I just got off of the phone with another critic and
>> > we
>> > thought that someone had tapped into the phone line because the volume
>> > of
>> > our voices was wrong and the other person heard an echo also.
>> >
>> > Susan
>>
> Graham, If Narconon is NOT a religion why do the FBI not get involved
> in the wire tapping?
Wire tapping is illegal period.
Susan
Graham Berry
> "Graham Berry" <graha...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1154141572.7...@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
Why do you ask? Have there been sightings of fake Graham Berrys;
counterfeit Graham Berry knock-offs? Isn't just one of me enough? <gr,
gr, grrr>
On a more serious issue, one of the Planning Commission employees may
be terminated for the original deficient approval of the Leona Valley
Narconon facility.
Meanwhile, the Church of Scientology/Narconon is trying to have one of
the Leona Valley residents who opposed the Leona Valley Narconon
facility terminated from her employment.
And Sheriff Lee Baca has apparently informed Narconon President Clark
Carr that the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department wants to introduce
Scientology practices and procedures into its own training of deputy
sheriffs. It also appears that the Church of Scientology has some
blackmail material on the Sheriff; the same type of material they may
have used to used to eliminate one-time anti-scientology attorney Barry
Van Sickle.
Graham Berry
graha...@comcast.net
Tilman Hausherr
wrote:
>And Sheriff Lee Baca has apparently informed Narconon President Clark
>Carr that the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department wants to introduce
>Scientology practices and procedures into its own training of deputy
>sheriffs. It also appears that the Church of Scientology has some
>blackmail material on the Sheriff
Hey, it would be real news if the "church" did NOT have any blackmail
material on the sheriff :)
--
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http://www.xenu.de
Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.
Find broken links on your web site: http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html
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Larry T.
I guess that answers the question. Thank you Graham.
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Larry
I am being defamed and forged here
Zinj schrieb:
> In article <1154066015.901389.91870
> @p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, Stilllov...@myway.com
> says...
> >
> > Graham Berry schrieb:
> >
> > > THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
> > >
> > > Over
> >
> > Libel on L. Ron Hubbard snipped. The website on Graham Berry is still
> > up and running strong.
> >
> > http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry1.html
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> And
You know what, Joe? Some Christians talk about sin that is inherited. I
always was thinking that it is total crap and that a person is just
responsible for her own sins (overts/withholds). But then I watched the
doing of Neo Nazis and came to the conclusion that sins
(overts/withholds) of others can be indeed inherited. The Nazis and the
p$ychs behind them committed the crimes but those people who cover for
these crimes are just as guilty as those who committed them. They
inherit the crimes by acting on behalf of those who committed them. If
they would have lived in that time, they would have committed all the
crimes.
In other words: you (and your friends) covering up the abuse that was
committed against me, saying it didn't happen, despite you case officer
told you that it happened, makes you just as guilty as those who did
it.
--
Barbara Schwarz (Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. No
impostor, please!)
--
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
Remember, Dave Touretzky has also bomb instructions on the net, just
waiting to be found by crazy juveniles or terrorists.
Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
harassment):
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
I am being defamed and forged here
Graham Berry schrieb:
> I u
Graham Berry's rambling crap snipped.
This is about Graham Berry:
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry1.html
This is about L. Ron Hubbard:
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
I am being defamed and forged here
Graham Berry schrieb:
> The procession of 20 cars was at the Leona Valley property, the
> electronic bugging and telephone diversions was directed at those
> opposing the Narconon facility and the FBI has refused to act upon
> evidence of Scientology telephone tapping on at least three occasions
> that I know of.
Guess, after all, they can't bend he law that easily as you want them
to?
Simkatu
<snip>
> Graham, If Narconon is NOT a religion why do the FBI not get involved
> in the wire tapping?
There are some evidentiary issues.
Who were the people that were tapped? What are their names and
addresses? Who is willing to testify that their phones were tapped and
what is the evidence that they have to show that their phones were
tapped? Is their any photographic or video evidence of tapping
equipment being used in this case, etc....
--
Simkatu