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Martin G. V. Hunt

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Who's Who on ARS v1.2 September 26th, 1996.

Also see David H Dennis' (da...@amazing.cinenet.net) Who's Who on
alt.religion.scientology? Last Updated on Tuesday, 25 July 1995 at:
http://www.amazing.com/scientology/players.html

Send in a description of yourself to help the confused newbies figure
it all out; or you can wait awhile, and I'll get around to defining
you, but it would be better if it was in your own words. Put in your
email and webpage URL, if you have one. And please, keep the whole thing
to ten lines. For a good idea on what to put down for your entry, read
what others have written about themselves; but generally, a note about
your experience with scn if any, and whether you are pro or con, critic,
scn, freezoner, ex, etc., why you post to ars, and what you think of
scn.

All the descriptions below were written by the person themselves, with
only minimal editing; if I get around to describing those who aren't
on the list or if someone sends in a description of another poster, I'll
made a note of that at the bottom as: (written by <name>).

Arnie Lerma <ale...@dgs.dgsys.com> First visited by osa goons Nov4,
1994, scanned, ocr'd, & posted piles of open public court records,
including classics like Scaarf. Accepted invitation to join board of
FACTNet, http://www.lightlink.com/factnet1/ and posted the Fishman/
Geertz Affidavit with OT levels on July 31 1995. Raided by the cult,
Aug 12, 1995, home was searched by members of the criminal cult of
money and greed see.http://www2.dgsys.com~alerma Currently still in
litigation with the cult. Sig: Ex-Sea Organization Slave, "Clear 3502",
Treasurer for FACTNet - Fight Against Coercive Tactics Network "I'd
prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake" "secrets
are the mortar, binding bricks of lies together, into prisons for the
mind" "The internet is the liberty tree of the 90's"

Cat Davidson-Hall: c...@brc.ubc.ca [SP4, KoX, KbM#6]. Longtime activist
for various and sundry causes, most recently found on the fringes of
the feminist movement. Long been opposed to the CCHR's stance on
psychiatry and psychiatric drugs (particularly antidepressants), but
joined a.r.s. primarily to find out why Helena Kobrin was so desperate
to get it off the net. Has never been in Scientology. (O`Blivion on
irc).

CB, aka "clear baby" IRL: Heidrun Beer <con...@atnet.at> An Austrian
scientologist, LRH-fan and tech purist, who in her first 4 months on
a.r.s. has developed from a devoted CoS member to an even more devoted
"dissident". The standard reaction of the a.r.s.-critics towards CB is
"You are the FIRST scientologist who..." (follows a positive attribute).
Various opinions exist about who she really is - from a "Henry Kissinger"
type of voluntary messenger, a good-hearted and much too naive idealist
who will soon become declared suppressive for her radical postings, to
an OSA or RTC plant with an undercover mission to "handle" a.r.s. CB
herself says that as a writer, the natural thing for her will be to
write a book (title: "Revenimus). CB's most dissident posts are on
http://www.icon.fi/~marina/clrbaby/index.htm

C.B. Willis <cbwi...@netcom.com>. Background in philosophy, world
religions, alternative therapies, esoterics, organizational
transformation, corporate values and ethics. Defender of what is
valid and workable in traditional ethics and world religions. Has
never been a member of Scientology but likes Hubbard's non-fiction
writings and tapes from the early 1950's; does not relate to the book
"History of Man" and much of Scn written after the 50's. Classifies
self as an independent thinker and free spirit, neither a critic nor
freezoner per se. CBW quote: "Values are the infrastructure on which
civilization will be reinvented."

Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine Email: <da...@xemu.demon.co.uk> Web:
http://www.xemu.demon.co.uk/ Involved in campaigning on free speech,
civil rights, miscarriages of justice issues. Homepage incudes songs,
lexsicon, Koos+Troutman humour archives, dogdrowning FAQ, and annotated
index of 50 other pages.

David Gerard <f...@suburbia.net> - Melbourne, Australia. Vague interest
in Scientology as a curious silly thing; then the raid on Dennis Erlich
and the threat to Net freedoms I hold dear. Sniped for a while (a big
attraction to a.r.s for me was the number of SubGenii here), then Helena
Kobrin made trouble with my postmaster and I got angry. Now devote quite
a bit of time to a.r.s, Web page maintenance, IRC #scientology,
demonstrating and so on. My friends are careful not to mention the 'S'
word in my presence in case I start ranting, but are kind enough to
relate any new and amusing tidbits crossing their paths and so on.
Scientology itself is not important; but the organisation *must* be
made an example of so that others will not fuck with the Net.
http://suburbia.net/~fun/scn <ge...@cougar.vut.edu.au>

Deirdre Email: <dei...@sover.net> On IRC: DeirdreVT or Dev-T. Ex-Scn
and ex-staff, now a free zoner. Always willing to talk to current and
ex-CofS members. However, I should warn ya, I'm frankly more interested
in knitting these days than what the CofS is up to. Participation on
IRC is more social than anything else.
Web: http://www.sover.net/~deirdre/scnverses.html

efischer: efis...@wimsey.com ed de fish. bird. yella but not chicken.
talks real good though incomrehensibly to some. arscc mascot (not
fish*man*, that's another kinda mascot), usually located on left
shoulders of whatever bathrobes available and compliant. likes: her
blue fuzzy-wuzzy nibblie-poo, the writings of a certain science fiction
writer (*very* absorbent!) and parties. peeves: sunflower seeds (gas),
spiritual enlightenement (gas) and midge (gas) ambition: to attend the
grady ward institute of elocutionary excellence. or to be immortal.
can't fucking decide. does *not* wanna cracker. wants a james-brown
instead. http://www.knosso.com/NWHQ/

Heidrun Beer, see "CB" or "clear baby".

Jonathon Barbera <bar...@primenet.com> (formerly id...@primenet.com --
Qliphah on irc) - Phoenix, Arizona, USA. Former Churchie who was
expelled (declared an SP) in 1994. Critic of some of the practices
of the Church of Scientology and its related organizations. I am fond
of and interested in most Scientology tech and consider myself an
Independent Scientologist (called a Squirrel in the Church). I began
posting to ars in 1992 as a Churchie and began posting more as a critic
beginning in 1995.

Keith A. Cochran, aka Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran. janda@
various machines, or jan...@aol.com. Critic. Never a member. Got
interested from the cancel-wars in n.a.n-a.m, and the "sea org women
are coerced into having abortions" posts from talk.abortion. When I
announced that I was going to be critiquing _What Is Scientology_,
somebody from a Clearwater, Florida POP started forging posts "from"
me, so if it isn't PGP-signed, it isn't from me. I contracted AIDS
years before I read OTIII. I'm still here, disproving the "it will
kill you (through pneunomia, etc) if you're not ready for it" crap.
I take Koos seriously up to a point.

Lance S. Buckley: la...@avalon.demon.co.uk [SP4, GGBC #26, ARSCC(UK),
J&D, KoX, KbM#11] A critic since hearing about the attempted illegal
rmgroup of a.r.s by Helena Kobrin. Tends to divide his time between
Joking and Degrading, Transcribing TV shows and converting the
results to HTML, Lurking on IRC's #scientology, Attending all the
pickets he can with his trusty video-camera "Vera" and Spreading
the word about Scientology in the real world wherever possible to
anyone who will listen. Lance's Scientology pages can be found at:
http://www.avalon.demon.co.uk/cos.htm

Martin Hunt, <av...@freenet.carleton.ca> <uo...@freenet.victoria.bc.ca>
webpage: <http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~av282> I've been a long-time and
frequent poster to ars, and I maintain several of the newsgroup's FAQs:
a booklist, the large ARS FAQ, a terminology list, a who's who, etc.
I'm an ex-scientologist, and I consider scientology to be a criminal
organization who's purpose was to garner money and power for the man
at the top (Ron Hubbard) before he died. The cult is still operating
on his corrupt policies, and thinks nothing of suing and harassing its
critics into silence. I believe that scientology represents a grave
threat to the concepts and tenets of freedom, democracy and the internet.

Padre Martini, Archdukebishop of West Texas. E-Mail: z5...@ttacs.ttu.edu
Web Page: http://pegasus.acs.ttu.edu/~z5d31/martini.html Experience
with Scn: None, other than attending pickets and asking loads of
questions about Scientology that never seem to get answered. I believe
in the freedom of religion, but no one, _no one_, has the right to
censor the Internet, raid people's homes, lie, rape, murder, steal,
frame, and drive people insane in the name of their god, L. Ron
Hubbard. Scientology is not a religion. It is a criminal organisation,
and one that must be shut down before anyone else is hurt, or worse.

Paper Tiger <paper...@nym.alias.net>
Anonymous critic, ARS archiver, Asker of Annoying Questions, Atheist
and Skeptic. Discovered ARS in June 1995 when Scientologist "Chris
Miller" made a post to soc.women in which "she" lied about having a
daughter working for Morrison and Foerster, the law firm representing
Dennis Erlich, in order to besmirch their reputation. SP3, LFDoX
(Little Furry Daughters of Xenu), still hoping for a KBM.

Patricia <txtb...@xs4all.nl> <http://www.xs4all.nl/~txtbreed/Co$.htm>
Occasional poster in a.r.s. but fairly active in nl.scientology. Likes
to mock up scienos, but is also truly interested in what makes them
tick. She hates the organization, not necessarily all of its members:
"Many people have been seriously harassed and intimidated for speaking
openly about what goes on inside the 'church' of Scientology. They
were sued into bankruptcy, their houses were raided and for some of
them, suicide was the only way out of all the misery. Their voice
deserves all the volume it can get - in newsgroups and on the web, to
begin with."

Richmann <Rich...@sympatico.ca> I'm still [a Scientologist] in and
in good standing, an IAS Honor Roll too.

Rod Keller <rke...@netaxs.com> Nickname "Stomps" on #scientology.
Compiler of A.r.s Week in Review - write me for a free email
subscription. Interests - dangers of the Purification Rundown,
Scientology cosmology, how the tech alters the idea of "ethics" to
allow members to do the horrible things Scientology does. Sometime
defender of unpopular causes and/or people on a.r.s. Member - FDIC
and ARSCC.

Steve A <ste...@castlsys.demon.co.uk> (full name available to genuine
callers and nubile young women of dubious virtue). Qualifications:
SP4, GGBC, KBM, Unsalvageable PTS/SP #12 (there are others, but these
are the ones with the nicest medal ribbons) Why am I here: I came to
a.r.s. in late '94, partly out of curiosity because I'd heard stuff
about CCHR and the raid on anon.penet.fi. I was so disgusted with what
I saw that I stayed. Since then, I have "enjoyed" a short flurry of
emails with Helena Kobrin, and assorted hate mail messages from
Scientologists, and I've attended three protests at the London org.
http://www.castle.demon.co.uk/scientology.html

Ted Mayett, Las Vegas, Nevada te...@skylink.net Member for 12 years, on
and off. Completed four major courses. I was a low-level monkey, until
finding the Internet I knew nothing about this cult. Today I am an
activist. I would see them corrected or shut down. I argue vehemently
that there is a difference between the criminals running the cult and
the local members who are not necessarily criminals.

-------------
history list:

9.26.96 v1.2 corrected three entries, added to information at top, and:
Ted Mayett, Deirdre, Rod Keller, Cat Davidson-Hall, Paper Tiger,
Arnie Lerma, Jonathon Barbera.

9.25.96 v1.1 alphabetized by first name, added history list and:
C.B. Willis, David Gerard, efischer, CB - Heidrun Beer, Lance S. Buckley,
Richmann, Steve A

9.24.96 v1.0 original 5:
Patricia, Martin Hunt, Padre Martini, Keith A. Cochran, Dave Bird
--
Cogito, ergo sum.

Art Online oil paintings: http://www.islandnet.com/~martinh/homepage.html
Scientology FAQs: http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~av282

Karin Spaink

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av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V. Hunt) wrote:

> Who's Who on ARS v1.2 September 26th, 1996.

Great work once again, Martin. I'll add my two cents, erm, ten lines.


Karin Spaink <ksp...@xs4all.nl>, <http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink>
Writer. Never a member. Got involved after CoS chose to raid her
provider, XS4all, in September 1995, because of the presence of the Fishman
Affidavit on one of their user's homepages. She put up her own Fishman
homepage and asked others to do likewise. CoS has been threatening with
lawsuits on accopunt of copyright infringement of the OT's ever since. The
first lawsuit, in December 1995, was dropped by CoS because they could not
come up with the evidence. The second lawsuit was scheduled for Februari
1996; Karin won, and is the proud owner of the first legally approved
Fishman Affidavit homepage. Needless to say, CoS has appealed; the appeal
is pending. CoS now wants to settle.


groet,
Karin Spaink

- I write, therefore I am: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink
Steunfonds rechtszaak Scientology v. Spaink et. al.:
- Vrienden van K., giro 450 9627, Amsterdam

Rebecca Hartong

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Ah.. at last! A chance for fame and glory!

Rebecca Hartong - har...@netins.net, http://www.netins.net/showcase/hartong -
I first encountered Scientology about 4 years ago on AOL in the mental health
folders, debating the merits of modern psychiatric treatment. I first began
reading and posting to alt.religion.scientology about 3 1/2 years ago with the
idea of continuing to battle CCHR's campaign of lies about psychiatry, and I
have continued on as an occasional poster (but constant reader) since
Scientology began threatening freedom of speech on the Internet. My opinion
of Scientology is that the "philosophy" (such as it is) is a pathetic
mish-mash of misunderstood Eastern religious ideals and pulp sci-fi. The
"management" of Scientology (such as IT is) is criminal, loathesome, and
thoroughly obnoxious.

Ack! 10 1/2 lines! Does that disqualify me from the "fame & glory sweepstakes
drawing?"

Rebecca Hartong
***************
A broken heart is like a nazi, and a nazi's like the blues.
The furor that you have, the Fuehrer you have to lose.

Danny O'Keefe

Ralph Hilton

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On 26 Sep 1996 12:03:25 GMT, av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V.
Hunt) wrote:


>Send in a description of yourself to help the confused newbies figure
>it all out; or you can wait awhile, and I'll get around to defining
>you,

ok - could you note which descriptions are written by the person and
which you write - thanks.

> but it would be better if it was in your own words. Put in your
>email and webpage URL, if you have one. And please, keep the whole thing
>to ten lines. For a good idea on what to put down for your entry, read
>what others have written about themselves; but generally, a note about
>your experience with scn if any, and whether you are pro or con, critic,
>scn, freezoner, ex, etc., why you post to ars, and what you think of
>scn.


--

Ralph Hilton

Ralph Hilton

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On 26 Sep 1996 12:03:25 GMT, av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V.
Hunt) wrote:

>
>Who's Who on ARS v1.2 September 26th, 1996.
>

ok - here's my twopence worth:

Ralph Hilton. Ex- Sea Org. 10 years at Flag (scn HQ). Joined 1972,
left 1982 ( and declared SP). Cl 5 OT7 in the CofS. Still a
Scientologist really but disagree with many things about the CofS
including many crimes, pricing and control of peoples' lives. I audit
people using a technology which I can't call Scientology because they
might sue me. I think the future of Scientology technology is outside
of the CofS.


--

Ralph Hilton

Martin G. V. Hunt

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Rebecca Hartong (har...@netins.net) writes:
> Ah.. at last! A chance for fame and glory!
>
> Rebecca Hartong - har...@netins.net, http://www.netins.net/showcase/hartong -
> I first encountered Scientology about 4 years ago on AOL in the mental health
> folders, debating the merits of modern psychiatric treatment. I first began
> reading and posting to alt.religion.scientology about 3 1/2 years ago with the
> idea of continuing to battle CCHR's campaign of lies about psychiatry, and I
> have continued on as an occasional poster (but constant reader) since
> Scientology began threatening freedom of speech on the Internet. My opinion
> of Scientology is that the "philosophy" (such as it is) is a pathetic
> mish-mash of misunderstood Eastern religious ideals and pulp sci-fi. The
> "management" of Scientology (such as IT is) is criminal, loathesome, and
> thoroughly obnoxious.
>
> Ack! 10 1/2 lines! Does that disqualify me from the "fame & glory sweepstakes
> drawing?"

No, but not emailing me a copy might; I don't get all post to the
newsgroup. :-)

Thanks, Rebecca.

Steve A

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In alt.religion.scientology, ra...@xenologics.idiscover.co.uk
(Ralph Hilton) wrote:

> On 26 Sep 1996 12:03:25 GMT, av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V.
> Hunt) wrote:
>
>

> >Send in a description of yourself to help the confused newbies figure
> >it all out; or you can wait awhile, and I'll get around to defining
> >you,
>

> ok - could you note which descriptions are written by the person and
> which you write - thanks.

Yes - this needs to be done. [Editor's comments in square
brackets, perhaps?]


--
ObDenial: I am not Arthur Stevens of Crawley.
ObURLS:

Beginners: http://www.tiac.net/users/modemac/cos.html
In-depth: http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/scientology/home.html
Harassment: http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/scientology/harass/timeline-95.html
Fools, losers, and mugs: http://www.scientology.org

SP4, GGBC, KBM, Unsalvageable PTS/SP #12

Child molesters! Join Scientology and grope with impunity!

IN MEMORIAM: Richard Collins, victim of the criminal cult of Scientology
IN MEMORIAM: anon.penet.fi, rema...@utopia.hacktic.nl, victims of the
criminal cult of Scientology.

TarlaStar(a.r.s. critic)

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av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V. Hunt) wrote:

>So far, I've only written my own entry; maybe I won't even need to define
>people, which would be very nice. However, for a complete expansion of
>the list, a day will come when entries will be written by myself or others

Heaven forfend against anyone aside from ME describing me! Here goes:

Tarla Star- auburn-haired topless relief driver on the Crosstown Bus
to Toadl Freedom. Owns her own blue and white chambray bathrobe. Been
an arshole since just before the Great Raid of '95. Made infamous by
Andrew Milne in the PR blunder of a lifetime, now know as "The Outing
of Tarla Star."(in big bold lights, please). Lost a good friend to the
cult in '76, lost my anonymity in '95, lost my patience about the same
time, and had a serious hate-on with the cult ever since. Favorite
pastime on ars: critiqueing L.Ron Hubbard's published garbage. You may
consider me a CRITIC of the CoS.


Steve A

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In alt.religion.scientology, bmy...@ionet.net (TarlaStar(a.r.s.
critic)) wrote:

> av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V. Hunt) wrote:
>
> >So far, I've only written my own entry; maybe I won't even need to define
> >people, which would be very nice. However, for a complete expansion of
> >the list, a day will come when entries will be written by myself or others
>
> Heaven forfend against anyone aside from ME describing me! Here goes:
>
> Tarla Star- auburn-haired topless relief driver on the Crosstown Bus

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That explains it. As a redhead myself, I thought there was
something more than mere Slackfulness in your Attichood.

> to Toadl Freedom. Owns her own blue and white chambray bathrobe. Been

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Pshaw! Gilding the lily, aren't we? :-)


--
ObDenial: I am not Arthur Stevens of Crawley.
ObURLS:

SP4, GGBC, KBM, Unsalvageable PTS/SP #12

Child molesters! Join Scientology and grope with impunity!

IN MEMORIAM: Richard Collins, victim of the criminal cult of Scientology

IN MEMORIAM: anon.penet.fi, rema...@utopia.hacktic.nl, victims of the
criminal cult of Scientology.

Steve A

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In alt.religion.scientology, av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G.
V. Hunt) wrote:

>
> Who's Who on ARS v1.2 September 26th, 1996.

Just thought: you'd better add to mine that I own a blue
bathrobe. I forgot.


--
ObDenial: I am not Arthur Stevens of Crawley.
ObURLS:

SP4, GGBC, KBM, Unsalvageable PTS/SP #12

Child molesters! Join Scientology and grope with impunity!

IN MEMORIAM: Richard Collins, victim of the criminal cult of Scientology

IN MEMORIAM: anon.penet.fi, rema...@utopia.hacktic.nl, victims of the
criminal cult of Scientology.

Martin G. V. Hunt

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Steve A (ste...@castlsys.demon.co.uk.see.organisation.line.for.email.id) writes:
> In alt.religion.scientology, ra...@xenologics.idiscover.co.uk
> (Ralph Hilton) wrote:
>

>> On 26 Sep 1996 12:03:25 GMT, av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V.


>> Hunt) wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Send in a description of yourself to help the confused newbies figure
>> >it all out; or you can wait awhile, and I'll get around to defining
>> >you,
>>

>> ok - could you note which descriptions are written by the person and
>> which you write - thanks.
>
> Yes - this needs to be done. [Editor's comments in square
> brackets, perhaps?]

It was done already; see the notes at the top of the list.

John Ritson

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In article <324cf21...@192.168.2.1>, Steve A <ste...@castlsys.demon
.co.uk.see.organisation.line.for.email.id> writes
>In alt.religion.scientology, av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G.

>V. Hunt) wrote:
>
>>
>> Who's Who on ARS v1.2 September 26th, 1996.
>
>Just thought: you'd better add to mine that I own a blue
>bathrobe. I forgot.

John Ritson:
Ran into Scientology back in 1968, had practically forgotten about them
(unless you walk down Tottenham Court Road, or live in East Grinstead,
where they are the major cause of suicide, you would be pretty unlucky
to encounter them in the UK) until March 1995 when annoyed by 'Woody'
spamming Usenet on behalf of the 'Cruch'. Founder member of the British
BodyThetan Society (http://wwww.jritson.demon.co.uk/bodythetan.htm)
dedicated to protecting these loveable loyal little creatures from
attempts by the confused, suppressive Hubbardistas to destroy them or
blame them for all problems. Owner of a blue bathrobe (and a pink-
striped white shirt).

John *** "THE GORILLA GOALS

This same pattern, but given in an amusement park with a single tunnel, a
roller coaster and a ferris wheel, was used between about 319 trillion
years ago to about 256 trillion years ago, a long span.
The symbol of a Gorilla was always present in the place the goal was given.
Sometimes a large gorilla, black, was seen elsewhere than the park. A
Mechanical or a live gorilla was always seen in the park.
This activity was conducted by the Hoipolloi, a group of operators in meat
body societies.
They were typical carnival people. They let out Concessions for these
Implant "Amusement Parks."
A pink-striped white shirt with sleeve garters was the uniform of the
Hoipolloi. Such a figure often rode on the roller coaster cars. Monkeys
were also used on the cars. Elephants sometimes formed part of the
equipment.
The Hoipolloi or Gorilla goals were laid in with fantastic motion. Blasts
of raw electricity and explosions were both used to lay the Items in."
L. Ron Hubbard - April 17 AD13 (After Dianetics) ***

h3

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In article <52dred$k...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,

av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V. Hunt) wrote:

>Who's Who on ARS v1.2 September 26th, 1996.

i guess i post frequently enough that i could say a bit about my
persona for any newcomers to the scene. i also find that if i am
away from a.r.s. for any period of time, i tend to forget exactly
where some of the less frequent posters stand, and a place to remind
me would be useful (hint, hint).


h3 (see...@ix.netcom.com) - the 3rd of the henry's to arise in his stead
and honor following his shuddering into silence at the hands of CoS (in the
person of Gene Ingram). h3's contribution seems mainly in pointing out the
distorted thinking that arises from scientology, although he occasionally
contributes relevant articles from periodicals. h3 follows most closely the
attempted perversion of liberties and legal systems by CoS. h3 believes that
scientology is fraudulent and comparable to drug addiction in its effects,
and that wide and general knowledge of it (and other cults) is the best
antidote to it.

Tilman Hausherr

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Tilman Hausherr. Never in a cult. Software developer, lives in Berlin,
Germany. On the internet since August 1994 when I was told about a.r.s.
in a CompuServe forum. I observes evil cults as a hobby, because I
consider cults like scientology to be human rights abuses even worse
than the ones monitored by AI. Not affiliated with any anti-cult group
but sympathetic to them.

--- Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
til...@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/

You really do expose your true colors with your posts, Tilman.
[mi...@crl.com]

Deirdre

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Oh, me too, me too!

Can't forget to include THAT.

_Deirdre

In article <324cf21...@192.168.2.1>,
ste...@castlsys.demon.co.uk.see.organisation.line.for.email.id (Steve A)
wrote:

> Just thought: you'd better add to mine that I own a blue
> bathrobe. I forgot.

--
http://www.sover.net/~deirdre

Ex Mudder

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see...@ix.netcom.com (h3) wrote:

>In article <52dred$k...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
>av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V. Hunt) wrote:
>

>>Who's Who on ARS v1.2 September 26th, 1996.
>

>i guess i post frequently enough that i could say a bit about my
>persona for any newcomers to the scene. i also find that if i am
>away from a.r.s. for any period of time, i tend to forget exactly
>where some of the less frequent posters stand, and a place to remind
>me would be useful (hint, hint).
>

Ex Mudder (dke...@best.com), Cancer Survivor. Read OT 3 during
Chemotherapy and didn't get a sniffle (just spewed what I was drinking
on the monitor, keyboard, etc). Member number 4 of TheKeith [TM], all
rights reserved - you will be confused; eternal foes of the
Anti-Keith. Science Fiction Fan, thought Hubbard and Scientologists
were ineffectual loons. After a few years of hearing more ane more
disturbing stories, I visited A.R.S and haven't looked back. I have a
tendency to give used BT's to my cats to play with.


Martin G. V. Hunt

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John Ritson (jo...@jritson.demon.co.uk) writes:

Thanks, John.

> John Ritson:
> Ran into Scientology back in 1968, had practically forgotten about them
> (unless you walk down Tottenham Court Road, or live in East Grinstead,
> where they are the major cause of suicide, you would be pretty unlucky
> to encounter them in the UK) until March 1995 when annoyed by 'Woody'
> spamming Usenet on behalf of the 'Cruch'. Founder member of the British
> BodyThetan Society (http://wwww.jritson.demon.co.uk/bodythetan.htm)
> dedicated to protecting these loveable loyal little creatures from
> attempts by the confused, suppressive Hubbardistas to destroy them or
> blame them for all problems. Owner of a blue bathrobe (and a pink-
> striped white shirt).

Martin G. V. Hunt

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h3 (see...@ix.netcom.com) writes:

Thanks, h3.

> h3 (see...@ix.netcom.com) - the 3rd of the henry's to arise in his stead
> and honor following his shuddering into silence at the hands of CoS (in the
> person of Gene Ingram). h3's contribution seems mainly in pointing out the
> distorted thinking that arises from scientology, although he occasionally
> contributes relevant articles from periodicals. h3 follows most closely the
> attempted perversion of liberties and legal systems by CoS. h3 believes that
> scientology is fraudulent and comparable to drug addiction in its effects,
> and that wide and general knowledge of it (and other cults) is the best
> antidote to it.

Martin G. V. Hunt

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Sep 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/30/96
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I think it would make a good heraldic device for future coats-of-arms.

Rasta Robert

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Oct 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/1/96
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Rasta Robert <r...@fatima.dds.nl> - became interested in Cof$ v/s the
'net throught the copyright case in the Netherlands against over 20
Dutch ISP's and writer Karin Spaink. Since then I've read up on the
history of $cientology, I even bought a second-hand Tec Dic recently,
to better be able to deconstruct the cults' mangled language.
I've been participating since Mach '96 in nl.scientology and on ARS.
The internet could be the cults debacle, as a medium it cannot be
controlled like the old mass media. I Blow Body Thetans with my yidaki
(aka didjeridu) by means of circular breathing & happen to have a
blue/green bathrobe. http://huizen.dds.nl/~rr/scilink.htm


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--
We take DDS very seriously. In most cases it will hold your entire
spot load, jingle library, and other critical audio. So even a minor
malfunction needs immediate attention.


STella

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===

STella, ste...@magenta.com; no page; no horse; a mustache

If I am EVER convinced that the criminal cult has stopped tampering
with the net, lying to people, and using the courts as a tool of
oppression, I will cheerfully and immediately unsubscribe and head
back to my favorite newsgroups. But if there's a scorpion in the
room, I want to know WHERE.

When hell freezes over, I'm gonna make a mint selling iceskates to the
little demons. Meanwhile, anyone got a good book on creative origami?

===

STella

GDecheff

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This is my first time on ARS, but I wanted to say hello to Ralph Hilton.
Ralph, you
may not remember me, but you put me on my first post in the SO when I
replaced you on your security guard post at the Ft. Harrison- January
1979. This is Gene Decheff and I have been out of the SO for 6 years- I
left in 1990. I blew from Hemet and had been Gold, RTC, Estates, etc. I am
just starting to catch up on all the great info on ARS as I have 15 years
of information to share with the world.

Keith Henson

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GDecheff (gdec...@aol.com) wrote:
: This is my first time on ARS, but I wanted to say hello to Ralph Hilton.

Well, let me be the first to welcome you! I was never in scientology,
though I do have a story to relate about Hemet. You are likely to
meet quite a few of the folks who were in at that time, since the long
term prognosis for those moving up the bridge is to be declared SP,
and such folks wind up here if they get on the Net. Keith Henson


Lance S. Buckley

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The deeply suppressive gdec...@aol.com (GDecheff) managed to write
during a rare fit of unreasonableness:

> This is Gene Decheff and I have been out of the SO for 6 years- I
>left in 1990. I blew from Hemet and had been Gold, RTC, Estates, etc. I am
>just starting to catch up on all the great info on ARS as I have 15 years
>of information to share with the world.

Great, another bloody mouth to feed!

Why can't the SO hang on to it's officers that's what I want to know.
Oh well, Suffle along and make some room everyone.

Glad you could join us :)

Lance.
--
http://www.avalon.demon.co.uk/
"We would only destroy people who attempt to harm Scientology"
Jaques Vollet, Ex-head of GO-B1(Eu) currently head of OSA Invest(Eu)
[ SP4 : GGBC #26 : ARSCC(UK) : J&D : KoX : KbM #11 ]
My Other Hat's A Fedora

Neal Hamel

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On 9 Oct 1996 16:24:19 -0400, gdec...@aol.com (GDecheff) wrote:

>This is my first time on ARS, but I wanted to say hello to Ralph Hilton.
>Ralph, you
>may not remember me, but you put me on my first post in the SO when I
>replaced you on your security guard post at the Ft. Harrison- January

>1979. This is Gene Decheff and I have been out of the SO for 6 years- I


>left in 1990. I blew from Hemet and had been Gold, RTC, Estates, etc. I am
>just starting to catch up on all the great info on ARS as I have 15 years

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


>of information to share with the world.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Welcome to this little corner of the world!

Please do continue.

-Neal H.


Steve A

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On 9 Oct 1996 16:24:19 -0400, gdec...@aol.com (GDecheff) wrote:

> This is my first time on ARS, but I wanted to say hello to Ralph Hilton.
> Ralph, you
> may not remember me, but you put me on my first post in the SO when I
> replaced you on your security guard post at the Ft. Harrison- January
> 1979. This is Gene Decheff and I have been out of the SO for 6 years- I
> left in 1990. I blew from Hemet and had been Gold, RTC, Estates, etc. I am
> just starting to catch up on all the great info on ARS as I have 15 years

> of information to share with the world.

Hey! A warm welcome to another ex-Scieno! There's a proper little
community building here, and it's nice to see...

--
Steve A, SP4, GGBC, KBM, Unsalvageable PTS/SP #12

Child molesters! Join Scientology and grope with impunity!

IN MEMORIAM: Richard Collins, John Buchanan, Noah Lottick anon.penet.fi,

Michael Reuss

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Oct 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/11/96
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>gdec...@aol.com (GDecheff) wrote:

>This is my first time on ARS,

Truly, you are welcome. Remember to keep your thick skin close to your
computer, because this newsgroup can definitely get a mite dicey from
time to time.

>This is Gene Decheff and I have been out of the SO for
>6 years- I left in 1990. I blew from Hemet and had been Gold, RTC,
>Estates, etc. I am just starting to catch up on all the great info on
>ARS as I have 15 years of information to share with the world.

Sounds great! I can't wait to hear your Hemet stories. Can you tell us
one about a time when Tom and Nichole came for a visit, please???

Btw, thanks for saying 'info' and not 'data' in the above paragraph. ;-)


Michael Reuss
Honorary Kid


Martin G. V. Hunt

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GDecheff (gdec...@aol.com) wrote:
> This is my first time on ARS, but I wanted to say hello to Ralph Hilton.
> Ralph, you
> may not remember me, but you put me on my first post in the SO when I
> replaced you on your security guard post at the Ft. Harrison- January

> 1979. This is Gene Decheff and I have been out of the SO for 6 years- I


> left in 1990. I blew from Hemet and had been Gold, RTC, Estates, etc. I am
> just starting to catch up on all the great info on ARS as I have 15 years
> of information to share with the world.

Welcome to ars, Dene; I'm sure I've heard of your name before, maybe
in one of the critical books?

There's a lot of stuff on the web, now; I hope you have a browser and
give it all a look over. Ars is good for breaking news, and there's
also an IRC channel, #scientology, where a few of the regulars here
hand out and chat.

Welcome aboard; I look forward to hearing about your scn experiences.

ttyl,
martin.

Ralph Hilton

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On 11 Oct 1996 12:42:47 GMT, My local DSA reported to me that

av...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V. Hunt) wrote:
>
>GDecheff (gdec...@aol.com) wrote:
>> This is my first time on ARS, but I wanted to say hello to Ralph Hilton.
>> Ralph, you
>> may not remember me, but you put me on my first post in the SO when I
>> replaced you on your security guard post at the Ft. Harrison- January
>> 1979. This is Gene Decheff and I have been out of the SO for 6 years- I
>> left in 1990. I blew from Hemet and had been Gold, RTC, Estates, etc. I am
>> just starting to catch up on all the great info on ARS as I have 15 years
>> of information to share with the world.
>
>Welcome to ars, Dene; I'm sure I've heard of your name before, maybe
>in one of the critical books?
>
>There's a lot of stuff on the web, now; I hope you have a browser and
>give it all a look over. Ars is good for breaking news, and there's
>also an IRC channel, #scientology, where a few of the regulars here
>hand out and chat.
>
>Welcome aboard; I look forward to hearing about your scn experiences.
>
Hi Gene,

Good to hear from you again. What is your current viewpoint on
Scientology? I'd love to hear another viewpoint on Hemet.
I hang out on IRC #Scientology a fair bit too.

(p&m)


--

Ralph Hilton

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