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WHAT DO SCIENTOLOGIST THINK – AN INFORMAL SURVEY

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NewBeginnings

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May 10, 2009, 3:58:17 PM5/10/09
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After being in Scientology for several years, talking to hundreds of
Scientologist and reading many success stories I believe the following
survey very closely reflects what Scientologist really think.

1. Number of Scientologist who say, by leaving their body, they can
read a book blindfolded.
0%
2. Number who have seen someone do # 1 above.
0%
3. Number who believe # 1 above can be done by several Scientologist.
80%

4. Number of Scientologist who have recalled, then verified all
details from their last life birth certificate.
0%
5. Number who know someone who has done # 4 above.
0%
6. Number who believe # 4 above can be done by many Scientologist.
90%

7. Number of Scientologist who say they now have a skill they learned
in a previous life.
0%
8. Number who know someone who has achieved # 7 above.
0%
9. Number who believe # 7 has been achieved by several Scientologists.
85%

It would be considered a Suppressive Act (High Crime, illegal) to give
such a survey in Scientology since it would give members information
the church doesn’t want them to know. In other words Scientology is
suppressing vital information to keep members in the church. A high
number of members who are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars
believe they will attain God-like abilities when they reach the top of
the Bridge. So far none have.

Out_Of_The_Dark

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May 10, 2009, 4:37:47 PM5/10/09
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haha!! good survey, nevertheless.

barbaralov...@gmail.com

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May 10, 2009, 10:44:44 PM5/10/09
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Grow up.


Barbara Schwarz

Yes, I am a lady.

--
Gary Lynn aka Garry aka Gerald Bozo Scarff is the leader of the
Anonymous hate group in Los Angeles. When will the LAPD pay him
another visit?

Here is a picture and other details about the lawless man:

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-scarff/

Leonardo Been

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May 12, 2009, 6:52:08 AM5/12/09
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Response to 'WHAT DO SCIENTOLOGISTS THINK – AN INFORMAL SURVEY'

20090512 09:54 GMT

alt.religion.scientology

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That is not enough of the whole story (the quoted original post,
that is).

If you happen to regain some REAL abilities, or do want to regain and
to stabilize some of your real abilities, in 'Scientology,'

then you are quickly kicked out, because

THEY DO NOT (Hubbard does not) WANT TO HAVE ANYBODY AROUND, who
CAN look and see, AND who has good intentions:

'

Happened to me all the time, in particular in 1976 in East Grinstead
UK, when I got some major chunk of my past Life Energy back,

by facing (and THUS rejecting) Hubbard's pretense of his "being
'very much' senior to me," and his pretense of "wanting to help
me."

Pretenses he could of course only maintain, by impairing my
ability to see, and by his hiding from me.

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I was getting back SOME of the Life Energy he had stolen from me,
and this, after a long and intense but winning fight of mine against
the (in particular Nazi-past-life) sociopaths there in East Grinstead
(and they could not hang me, of course, now, this life time).

'

When I thus got some of my past Life Energy back of my Leonardo da
Vinci time,

I suddenly could see again, I could handle many such types of Energy
again, that you need for seeing, and I could have blocked an arrow
before it would have entered my body, as you see it in some movies
- it is simply a matter of seeing and handling Life Energy Particles:

Objects consist ALSO of Life Energy Particles. But physics is
such a backward "science," "science" being dominated currently
by sociopaths, including Hubbard, who is OPPOSED to actual
science, meaning knowing.

And 'Scientology' - Criminal Minds have everything in reverse -
'Scientology' IS the "science" of effectively PREVENTING people
from finding out the truth, by the - of course the only, and
time-worn and secure - method, of "making people convinced, that
'they found out the truth' - by themselves even," and "eagerly
paid for, BY THEMSELVES."

That is the "reason" for their "protecting their Tech,"
and for having their meter made and used never to show
what should be found out, and to have REVERSE interpreta-
tions of it, of such things as Rock Slam reads etc..

'

I repeat:

When I thus got some of my past Life Energy back of my Leonardo da
Vinci time,

I suddenly could see again, I could handle many such types of Energy
again, that you need for seeing, and I could have blocked an arrow
before it would have entered my body, as you see it in some movies
- it is simply a matter of seeing and handling Life Energy Particles:


And boy, did they - all the staff there - get screaming jealous!

I had not done their crazy "O.T. levels," you see, so "I could
not possibly be able and seeing."

And THEY knew, the sociopath (ex-wife) Rosalie (of Cyril Vosper)
knows, that anybody who DOES their crazy "O.T. levels," is
forever impaired and unable to see sociopaths, and instead
"feels at peace" - like Nancy Foster now Mamy, who was then
pretending to be "a friend of mine," a "clever" sociopath, as
most there in East Grinstead were, and are.

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Boy, did they - all the staff there - get screaming jealous!

And then they pull all their dirty tricks, as always, and all their
social levers, in order to try and set all people there up against
ME,

there they were ALREADY immersed in Hubbard's Energies, so they
were already made into cowards, easily set up

in order to destroy my achievements and my abilities - not unlike you
sociopaths tried and keep on trying to do it, as well.

You are so kind and so helpful... and so much striving
for your stated goals...

So I had to study - to research, the nature and activities of
sociopaths, both those of 'Scientology,'

and the sociopaths that you comprise, you with equal jealousy
and zealously attacking me rather than supporting me...

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The biggest crime you can commit, in their (and your eyes) is, to
be able to look and see (and believe me, it has nothing to do with
Einstein and his photons).

Besides, they do - 'Scientology' Hubbard does - DELIBERATELY not teach
what perception is, he HIDES how it works. (As also reflected by
the 'Scientology' statements quoted below, of "leaving the body in
order to perceive" - and the related FALSE "definitions" given, and
the lacking definitions, in 'Scientology,' by Hubbard, about
perception.)

HE does not want anybody looking at him!

And he starts wildly, viciously hitting (with Life Energy
PARTICLES, you dunces) at anyone, who does look - as I explained
to you elsewhere.

I am not known for taking orders from sociopaths, though, and I look*
anyway...

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Leonardo Been (Koos Nolst Trenite)

http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld

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* And I published it, too.

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Copyright (see at the bottom)

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On Sun, 10 May 2009 12:58:17 -0700, NewBeginnings wrote in
alt.religion.scientology:

> After being in Scientology for several years, talking to hundreds of

> Scientologist and reading many success stories, I believe the following

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I wrote earlier:

Lacking Definition of Enslavement - Nobody knows, apparently, what's
going on WITH 'Scientology'

6 May 2009
{HRI draft note 20090506-V2.1}

(HRI = Human Rights Issue)

(Version 2.1
on 10 May 2009)

(view Summary
by skipping - some
or much - indentation)

(as always, not for sociopaths)

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I looked yesterday (5 May) at the posted 'Scientology' video
recordings of what is actually 'the Chairman of the Board,
David Miscavige's Birthday Party, the "March 13, 2009" 'Scientology
Event.'

I looked at most of it, that is. (I skipped the "Biographer's"
lecturing about the demon, about the entirely false "history" of
l. ron hubbard - as everyone knows it to be false, by now.
That is solely meant to daze people, so they feel less of the
other, the major lies.)

(Thank you for those videos and for any other actions of
Intelligence acquisition, by you.)

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Apparently nobody knows, what's going on WITH 'Scientology:'

Not the 'Scientologists' of course - they have NO CLUE at all, about
what is going on WITH 'Scientology.'

'Scientology' basically means, here:

All the front groups (Scientology Organizations and
Scientology Franchises) that hide the true nature and
past of, and that feed Energy to the demon, l. ron hubbard.

And it means, any person who violates the Human Rights Order
{HRO} on him. ('Human Rights Order on the individual last known
as l. ron hubbard' {HRO 20081017-V2.3.1} )


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Now COMPARED to the demon l. ron hubbard, David Miscavige, the 'COB'
or 'Chairman of the Board' of 'Scientology,' is a nice guy - on a
scale of zero to minus hundred, where Hubbard is a minus hundred,
Miscavige would be a minus twenty, to give you an idea.

But also Miscavige has no clue, about what is going on, really, but he
FEELS something of it - and he fully complies with the demon, though
he THINKS, that he, Miscavige, is playing his OWN power- and
domination game.

I will repeat that, for the idea to diffuse into your dimmed and
missing brain cells that you are told "process your thoughts" (at
a speed of 3 meters per second, the speed of a nerve cell), you
do not only know nothing about life, at all, you ALSO know everything
WRONG "about life," about YOUR OWN LIFE. And that includes the
'Scientologists,' as well.

Especially the "higher up" they - 'Scientologists' - get, THE LESS
they still remember about the actual nature of life, and THE LESS
they can see others and themselves, immersed as they now are, in the
Energies (described by me very precisely elsewhere, the Extremely
Harmful Energies) of the demon, l. ron hubbard.

(I repeat)

Also Miscavige has no clue what is going on, really, but he
FEELS something of it - and he fully complies with the demon,
though he THINKS, that he, Miscavige, is playing his OWN power-
and domination-game.


The 'Chairman of the Board,' Miscavige, this year did allow
Guillaume Lesevre on stage, only BECAUSE,

as you saw, Guillaume Lesevre - the "Executive Director
International of Scientology" - had given up ALL own
personality and, as you could hear and see,

he was fully using Miscavige's Energies ONLY, fully robotic,
void of own life.

'

You saw, on the recent videos, of the March 13, 2009 'Scientology'
Birthday Party event, that he, Miscavige, thoroughly enjoyed himself,
dominating and deceiving everybody as he was, per standard Hubbard
methods and wholly hidden policy,

of "Only by lying about something, can you make it persist"

- which is not only the STATED Creed of Hubbard; his PUBLISHED
'Fundamentals Of Thought' claim that to be so,

but it is also the Creed of the Criminal Mind, as I explained
elsewhere.

'

And it of course includes the major Creed of ANY Criminal Mind:
"The highest purpose in the universe, is the creation of an
effect" - which is (you guessed it) also PUBLISHED basic
doctrine of 'Scientology.'

By the way, the "Church of Scientology" is the only
"Church," that celebrates the BIRTHDAY of Satan - you
might be able to admit in mirth,

if you were not, as most choose to be, and prefer to be
made: 'spiritually blinder than a dog is actually.'
(Dogs perceive more, spiritually, and people currently
are made to NOT perceive, so they won't recognize demons
like l. ron hubbard.)

'

You saw Miscavige's pride. Not unlike - which some may have observed -
his Joseph Goebbels Energy

(but do not tell that to the Simon Wiesenthal guys, also do not
tell them about Richard Reiss's past life as Heinrich Himmler).

You saw Miscavige's JOY AND PRIDE of dominating others totally AND
with their agreement, as he did as Joseph Goebbels, so I understand:

His joy and pride now as always, in dominating people towards
a goal of evil, towards planetary extermination and eternal
spiritual oblivion, on as large a scale as possible, that is:

The Scientologists are more and more enslaved by Hubbard, the
higher they get up his ladder to "Total Freedom" - enslaved
for eternity indeed, AND PAYING FOR IT THEMSELVES, and getting
others to join it too,

not unlike the German nation did, under similar tutelage,

supposing you know any very basic facts about life,
in order to understand that.

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Criminal Minds have everything in reverse:

"Total Freedom" and "Eternal Well-Being" are the buzz-words,
of the demon, in this case l. ron hubbard and 'Scientologists,'

and they practice and bring about EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE:

Total Domination and Total Refusal To See Evil, for
Eternity.

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This REVERSAL OF TRUTH, you know from ANY Criminal Mind:

"We are liberating the homeland, building socialism with
workers," Chavez said, today.
(Sun May 10, 1:07 am ET, CARACAS (AFP) )

'

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However, nobody apparently knows what ENSLAVEMENT is,

certainly all 'Scientologists' - and for certain all "critics"
of 'Scientology,' too,

because they REFUSE to study life itself.

And I do not know of any ex-Scientologist who does actually
study life, either, though some try. But trying they do NOT
ENOUGH BY FAR, to understand enough of life, to be able to
observe or to guess:

What is going on WITH 'Scientology?'

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You refuse to understand life, so how could you ever even DEFINE
slavery or enslavement?

Nobody on Earth does, and beyond Earth nobody either does define
slavery or enslavement

- instead they use the most idiotic terms, like "Dimensions" or
"Densities" or "other Universes" or "evolving" in Karma and
Samsaras to Nirvanas or Heavens, etc., etc.,

and, not less idiotic terms, like Divine Laws, Hierarchies,
Prime Directives and Non-Interference, Days of Judgment,
Second Comings and the like, Living In the Now, etc., etc.,

ALL OF WHICH ARE PROFUSELY AND MALICIOUSLY USED, TO BRING
ABOUT AND TO MAINTAIN ENSLAVEMENT,

and all of which are INTENDED to hide and to NOT
oppose and to NOT understand Criminal Minds or
demons,

but never do they define, or even LOOK at enslavement, at
what is going on,

from their OWN, native viewpoint or soul.

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So also Hubbard - the demon last known by the name of l. ron hubbard -
really has a "free game" (an unopposed activity) as they say in
Dutch.

Nobody sees nor understands his "game." But everybody FEELS the
effects of it, not knowing the source.

Here the Medical Trade will guarantee that sources of Evil will
not ever be looked at, and that only symptoms resulting of it,
will be named.

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And the sad thing in the videos was not at all Miscavige's Birthday
party "March 13, 2009," but IT IS your VERY INTENSE

REFUSAL TO KNOW ABOUT LIFE ITSELF.

I have started to explain it - Life itself - to you, in the
Introduction to Fine Particle Physics {iFPP}.

Over to you.

KNT hrp&p


http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld

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Copyright 2009 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths
specifically, because these vehemently oppose any true knowledge
of life and about themselves).
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific or artistic "agenda," but only to educate,
and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
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What's a human beings I?

A brain, a body, a thetan, a soul, a spirit, an environment or dirty
tricked by the greed of money and power personified by Ron Hubbards in
his pyramid game?

Leonardo Been

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How a Demon "Helps" (by) Selling his Therapy to Others

20090516 11:25 GMT

alt.religion.scientology

When you look at him, at Hubbard - at his soul of course - or
otherwise, when you do not comply with his REVERSAL of good and evil,
etc., THEN he attacks you, with Harmful Life ENERGY Particles.

(Bad feelings, pains, numbness, unconsciousness, ugliness,
compulsions, and debilitating-, lethargy-, depression-,
hopelessness-, suicide-feelings or -ideas, etc. etc.

ARE - harmful - Life Energy Particles.)

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And what you feel then, he claims - any Criminal Mind claims like he
does - that "it is your 'own' case," and "your 'own' aberrations,"
YOUR "discomfort" ...WHEN HE ATTACKS YOU.

(Or, when another attacks you, your heart, your body, your soul.)

'

He is attacking you Energetically, of course with his Harmful Energy
PARTICLES that you feel on your body and on your soul

AND THEN he is "so kind as to let you buy some (more) 'Scientology'
therapy or 'processing'," to remedy that, but only

IF you agree, in some form, that "you will not ever actually look
at him or at his evil," and IF you agree, that "he is so great, for
helping you, and others."

'

You get it now? It is a self-proving and self-perpetuating vicious
circle, spiraling DOWN, becoming less and less aware, less and less
able to stand up to evil, less and less in command of your own
Energies, of your own perception, of your own feelings, of your own
ideas, of your own goals - and more and more creating and enforcing
the Energies of the demon, of Hubbard.

(Hubbard, the demon, who sneaks in by pretending to be 'moral,'
and forcing others not to look at him and to make others not
look at him.)

If you DO 'get it,' if you understand this 'Anatomy of his trap,'
then that means, that - relatively speaking of course - you are
Extremely Intelligent.

'

_________________
This adds as well to my previous post, which is slightly edited, here:


How 'Scientology' KILLS Your Abilities and Your Perception

20090512 09:54 GMT

alt.religion.scientology

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If you happen to regain some REAL abilities, or do want to regain and

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http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld

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