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John Dorsay  
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 More options Jun 9 2011, 4:52 pm
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From: John Dorsay <restimula...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:52:10 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jun 9 2011 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: Smear Campaign against Whistleblower Monica Pignotti Continues
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On 6/9/2011 4:26 PM, Monica Pignotti wrote:

>>  IARET:http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1286137&blobtyp...

>>  Welcome to the hall of mirrors.

> I don't know about that organization. The behavior analysts I know
> focus on positive reinforcement and are completely repulsed by the
> misuse of behavioral analysis as punishment of the kinds used by the
> Rotenberg Center. They use positive reinforcement first and if they do
> use punishment, it would be something like a time out or taking away a
> reward, not physically invasive punishments like electro shocks.

> They are certified by this organization:

> http://www.bacb.com/

This is behavior analyst doubletalk to justify aversives. It's right
out of IARET's position statement.

http://www.bacb.com/index.php?page=57

2.10 Treatment Efficacy.

(a) The behavior analyst always has the responsibility to recommend
scientifically supported most effective treatment procedures.
Effective treatment procedures have been validated as having both
long-term and short-term benefits to clients and society.

(b) Clients have a right to effective treatment (i.e., based on the
research literature and adapted to the individual client).

> The ones I know don't use the kinds of punishments that are used at
> the Rotenberg Center.

Are you saying they use different punishments, or are you saying
they don't use punishments at all? If the latter, they are probably
violating their "Treatment Efficacy" standard. If you have the
chance, please ask them about their views on the use of aversives,
what they think about their certifying organization's position, and
where do they draw the line if they think aversives are sometimes
acceptable. I'm curious. And you might be surprised by their answers.

John


 
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