ARS is major fael; important news on www.enturbulation.org
Quaoar
It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with important
critical news about the cult of Scientology that is posted on
www.enturbulation.org . Why this stuff never gets to ARS is simple: for
at least in present time, ARS has been found wanting as an important
venue for dissemination of news critical of Scientology.
Go to www.enturbulation.org and review both "Breaking News" and "General
Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised as what Anon is
turning up in their researches. None of this important information is
being duplicated on ARS.
Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of information
critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are, at least in the short
term, deluded.
Q
Thirsty Thetan
> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with important
> at least in present time, ARS has been found wanting as an important
> venue for dissemination of news critical of Scientology.
>
> Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised as what Anon is
> turning up in their researches. None of this important information is
> being duplicated on ARS.
>
> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of information
> critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are, at least in the short
> term, deluded.
>
> Q
So are you suggesting everyone just leave and let this newsgroup be
taken over by the $cilons? I realize that NNTP is ancient and all, but
I believe it still serves a valid purpose. Let's keep both, as they
both are affecting the evil cult of greed and power in their own ways.
TT
Tom Newton
Quaoar <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote:
> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with
> important critical news about the cult of Scientology that is
> posted on www.enturbulation.org .
If that's the case it's obviously only because no one is
bothering to post it here, which would be childsplay.
> Why this stuff never gets
> to ARS is simple: for at least in present time, ARS has been
> found wanting as an important venue for dissemination of news
> critical of Scientology.
Translation: Free speech exists here and people ask hard questions
about the so-called 'facts' about Scientology and the Church of
Scientology that are posted here by fanatical anti-Scientology
bigots.
And fanaticism and hatred can't thrive in an environment where
free speech exists.
>
> Go to www.enturbulation.org and review both "Breaking News"
> and "General Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised
> as what Anon is turning up in their researches. None of this
> important information is being duplicated on ARS.
More bullshit.
Anyone could obviously post any such information here, and
there is no shortage of anti-Scientology fanatics posting
here who would be happy to do it.
>
> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of
> information critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are, at
> least in the short term, deluded.
>
> Q
If "Anonymous" can't take criticism and hard questions then
it is never going to be anything but the collection of
cowardly, backstabbing gossips that it is now.
And you'll never be able to do any significant harm to
the Church of Scientology, but will be relegated forever
to the gossip rags and tabloids.
At least until the couch potatoes who read those things
get bored with you.
Run and hide, you pathetic fascist hate monger and liar.
Go eat each other up with your diet of hatred and dishonesty
on your forums where free speech is not permitted.
While you try to convince the public that you are a
free speech advocacy group.
You lose. Big time.
Tom
--
The Truth will set you free:
http://www.sethcenter.com
redco...@gmail.com
> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with important
> at least in present time, ARS has been found wanting as an important
> venue for dissemination of news critical of Scientology.
>
> Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised as what Anon is
> turning up in their researches. None of this important information is
> being duplicated on ARS.
>
> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of information
> critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are, at least in the short
> term, deluded.
>
> Q
I posted the Christian Markert stuff from enturb, posted the link and
then everyone thought I was him.
I'm all about posting info, but if people can't figure it out...
BigBeard
"Quaoar" <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote in message
news:RpidnXhZ7r368NXV...@comcast.com...
:
: It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with
If you don't want to use a.r.s., don't. Your choice.
Some of us use both, our choice.
And others, especially those on poor quality dial-up (the whole world
doesn't have access to high speed connections, yet anyway), stick to
a.r.s. because enturb's pages can take forever to load. Their choice.
It's good that there are choices in the world, and we have the
freedom to make them. Enturb and a.r.s. are just two of many, and
life's too short to waste time trying to make those decisions for
others.
BigBeard
Katana ko chi, SPsoo
"Rev" Norle Enturbulata, DTS, OD
Keep wishing, I'll keep yawning!
--
SP Goodman
The Usually Right "Reverend" Norle Enturbulata DDT, DTS
*
http://www.flickr.com/photos/enturbulata
http://www.youtube.com/user/Enturbulata
http://tinyurl.com/yre7c6
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.scientology-lies.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
http://www.scientology-kills.org
*
* " You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way
you can control anybody is to lie to them."
* -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
*
* "...Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her
crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes
exist...."
* - L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
*
* "Rather than give psychotics such treatment it would be far kinder to kill
them immediately and completely..."
* - L. Ron Hubbard, "Science of Survival", p117
barb
No, u.
--
Barb "That's Captain Barbossa to you!"
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
It's Poodlin' Time!
“I think that the protections that we enjoy for freedom of worship exist
so long as we don’t step over the line. When religious worship and
belief cross over into things like fraud, victimization of others and
the disruption of the political arena, that protection is no longer
appropriate.”
--Robert Goff
Professor Emeritus, UCSC
obscene dog
wrote:
>Go to www.enturbulation.org and review both "Breaking News" and "General
>Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised as what Anon is
>turning up in their researches. None of this important information is
>being duplicated on ARS.
Then do what some others are doing. Link the thread then quote the
title and first post.
I don't usually bother with web fora so it's nice when someone takes
the time to look through them and cherry pick for me :-)
--
Don't get in front of me.
What the... Oh, shi-
Quaoar
Why not? There is very little, if any, new and important information
being posted here. Perhaps in a year or two, ARS will revive itself. I
have my doubts.
Leave ARS to the trolls.
Q
Quaoar
This kind of thing is infrequent. OTOH, it seems that the trolls make
it difficult to figure out anything.
ARS has done its job. Information cannot be posted to a single source
like ARS, and practically no one except us old-timers even know of
usenet and ARS as an information source.
Usenet is now a download source for the newbies.
Q
Tom Newton
Quaoar <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote:
He says as runs for cover with his tail between his legs,
because he can't stand it when someone questions his
hate propaganda.
Poor little bigot.
Considering that 'Anonymous' is made up almost exclusively of
stinking trolls like you, that is a remarkable statement.
Have you ever even heard of the concept of honesty?
I wouldn't let someone like you in my home. On the streets
I wouldn't turn my back on you.
I wouldn't allow you to rent from me or shop at my store.
I wouldn't hire you to scrub toilets.
You and the rest of the ugly, lying, hatemongering bigots
of 'Anonymous' are some of the most disgusting human beings
I have ever encountered.
You should be in prison.
Quaoar
The problem BB, is that new and important information is not being
reposted to ARS from those sites that have the new information. It is
too much trouble, apparently.
I'm not making any decision for others. Read my post, it is obviously
my opinion.
OTOH, stay in the dark on ARS.
Q
Quaoar
> "Quaoar" <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote in message
> news:RpidnXhZ7r368NXV...@comcast.com...
>> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with important
>> critical news about the cult of Scientology that is posted on
>> www.enturbulation.org . Why this stuff never gets to ARS is simple: for
>> at least in present time, ARS has been found wanting as an important venue
>> for dissemination of news critical of Scientology.
>>
>> Go to www.enturbulation.org and review both "Breaking News" and "General
>> Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised as what Anon is turning
>> up in their researches. None of this important information is being
>> duplicated on ARS.
>>
>> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of information
>> critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are, at least in the short
>> term, deluded.
>
> Keep wishing, I'll keep yawning!
>
Keep yawning, and relax in the ARS world of no information. It's your
choice.
Q
Quaoar
> Quaoar wrote:
>>
>> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with
>> important critical news about the cult of Scientology that is posted
>> on www.enturbulation.org . Why this stuff never gets to ARS is
>> simple: for at least in present time, ARS has been found wanting as an
>> important venue for dissemination of news critical of Scientology.
>>
>> Go to www.enturbulation.org and review both "Breaking News" and
>> "General Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised as what
>> Anon is turning up in their researches. None of this important
>> information is being duplicated on ARS.
>>
>> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of information
>> critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are, at least in the short
>> term, deluded.
>>
>> Q
>
> No, u.
>
Why do YOU not repost from other sites? Since you don't, you have no
dog in this fight.
Q
Quaoar
"Others" are not doing it. Those links that I've posted have gone
unread, or at least unanswered.
ARS is dead meat.
Q
Askren
> Have you ever even heard of the concept of honesty?
>
> I wouldn't let someone like you in my home. On the streets
> I wouldn't turn my back on you.
>
> I wouldn't allow you to rent from me or shop at my store.
>
> I wouldn't hire you to scrub toilets.
That my friend, is why you are a failure as a human being. Remember
what happened when they did this with blacks in the south during
Hubbard's time. Remember?
You can call Anon an equal to the KKK when you're preaching the Klan's
level of intolerance? I smells me a hypocrite.
Android Cat
> obscene dog wrote:
>> I don't usually bother with web fora so it's nice when someone takes
>> the time to look through them and cherry pick for me :-)
>
> unread, or at least unanswered.
>
> ARS is dead meat.
So why are you posting here? GTFO.
--
Ron of that ilk.
Tom Newton
Quaoar <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote:
What utter bullshit.
It could be scripted and completely automated in about
10 minutes.
Anyone who can run a website/forum has the skills to do this.
>
> I'm not making any decision for others. Read my post, it is
> obviously my opinion.
It is an attempt to get 'Anonymous' away from critics who
make you look like the liars and bigots you are.
And your reason are purely specious.
>
> OTOH, stay in the dark on ARS.
Considering that anyone here can check out those websites
whenever they wish, that is a genuinely stupid statement.
>
> Q
You aren't going to be able to manipulate the people here
with your lies, bigot.
Too bad.
Brand...@gmail.com
If you say anything that is based on fact about the COS you are
labeled a bigot. There are hundreds of horrible facts that are public
information about the COS. There have been dozens of court cases and
trials which have pointed these matters out. Operation freakout and
operation Snow White should be enough. L Ron Hubbard lying on tape
about how many wives he had to the news should also do the trick. Ron
Hubbard, his own son, spoke out against his father as well on tape and
in court.
Throwing labels out is like Obama saying someone is a racist if they
do not vote for him. It is a blanket exscuse to justify your own
cause. I was taught in first grade that someone is allowed to
express opinions, thoughts and facts on their own without being
verbally beaten. Keep showing your true worth.
Quaoar
You are likely the poster child for relevant responses. This is one of
the major reasons that ARS is a lost resource.
Thanks for your reasoned response. Have a good weekend suggesting that
people GTFO.
Q
Quaoar
This was not my point. Read my post. Digest it, respond.
Q
Android Cat
> Android Cat wrote:
>> Quaoar wrote:
>>> obscene dog wrote:
>>>> I don't usually bother with web fora so it's nice when someone
>>>> takes the time to look through them and cherry pick for me :-)
>>> "Others" are not doing it. Those links that I've posted have gone
>>> unread, or at least unanswered.
>>>
>>> ARS is dead meat.
>>
>> So why are you posting here? GTFO.
>
> You are likely the poster child for relevant responses. This is one of
> the major reasons that ARS is a lost resource.
I'm not exactly a light poster on Enturbulation too, ya know...
> Thanks for your reasoned response. Have a good weekend suggesting
> that people GTFO.
Just the ones that feel the burning need to keep posting that ARS is a dead
meat *on ARS*. LOLWUT?
feministe
news:RpidnXhZ7r368NXV...@comcast.com...
well, I'mposting a number of new or important infos on ars, and I'm almost
never active on enturb or xenu discussion boards, that i consider always
much too "subdivided" and complex to be of great use for people starting
their researches while being newbies on internet.
Too slow too: getting in one discussion does not lead to another, while on
Newsgroups, on can pass over lots of topics, take the one one likes, etc.
r
"Rev" Norle Enturbulata, DTS, OD
Perhaps because there is neither a 'dog' nor a 'fight' in this context.
Perhaps you'd best stick to discussing Scientology.
BarryPepper
news:e84bb$484890de$d15a8f55$17...@PRIMUS.CA...
> Quaoar wrote:
>> obscene dog wrote:
>>> I don't usually bother with web fora so it's nice when someone takes
>>> the time to look through them and cherry pick for me :-)
Me neither. It's hard enough to keep up with ARS and I don't like web-based
forums, and I also don't like moderated fora (see? Both forums and fora are
correct).
I figure that if anything important happens it will posted here - the rest
may just be nOOb talk. Anyway, nowadays most of the news I get from Google
News anyway, not even from ARS.
>> "Others" are not doing it. Those links that I've posted have gone
>> unread, or at least unanswered.
>>
>> ARS is dead meat.
I think for the little I have lurked there there seems to be a distrust of
ARS. Maybe because of the OG bickering and maybe because ARS may have been
used as an example against critics. That being said, I don't see what would
make Anonymous any better. I bet the group dynamics at play in both groups
would be the same eventually. ARS has been here 10+ years. I doubt
enturbulation will make it that long. May not last even a year.
k
> I think for the little I have lurked there there seems to be a distrust of
> ARS. Maybe because of the OG bickering and maybe because ARS may have been
> used as an example against critics
.
The bickering, psy spam, kooks.
>That being said, I don't see what would make Anonymous any better. I bet
>the group dynamics at play in both groups would be the same eventually.
Possibly but very unlikely.
>ARS has been here 10+ years. I doubt enturbulation will make it that long.
>May not last even a year.
Heh, enturb is a hub not a home. If it dies more will take it's place, this
is how Anon sites work.
BigBeard
Reread my response, I use both a.r.s. and Enturb. Each has it's
place. YMMV.
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
Quaoar wrote:
>
> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with important
> critical news about the cult of Scientology that is posted on
> www.enturbulation.org . Why this stuff never gets to ARS is simple: for
> at least in present time, ARS has been found wanting as an important
> venue for dissemination of news critical of Scientology.
>
> Go to www.enturbulation.org and review both "Breaking News" and "General
> Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised as what Anon is
> turning up in their researches. None of this important information is
> being duplicated on ARS.
>
> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of information
> critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are, at least in the short
> term, deluded.
>
> Q
Those who, like scientology, still believe, that they can shut down
alt.religion.scientology on usenet, as the only method of expressing
one's ideas, which cannot be brought under control, are, at least in the
short term, deluded.
--
.Lily.
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> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with important
> at least in present time, ARS has been found wanting as an important
> venue for dissemination of news critical of Scientology.
>
> Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised as what Anon is
> turning up in their researches. None of this important information is
> being duplicated on ARS.
>
> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of information
> critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are, at least in the short
> term, deluded.
>
> Q
Foolish extrapolation of a true analysis beyond the scope of its
validity is perhaps the most common error in intellectual thought.
The error consists of glorifying a concept beyond its bounds and
running it into a state of mixed truth; a mostly correct analysis, yet
flawed nonetheless. The concept or analysis has now lost its edge, it
has been dulled, watered down.
The error may be a result of a need to make our thoughts, our
knowledge, our understanding of things more grand and inspiring. Every
bit of data, every idea, every correction applied to previous
conclusions, needs to be put in context and given only the weight, the
scope, and the reach that it logically should have. The body of
knowledge otherwise grows more and more flawed as bits of new
knowledge enter in, trailing the inevitable baggage of unnecessary,
foolish extrapolations.
Fredric L. Rice
>The problem BB, is that new and important information is not being
>reposted to ARS from those sites that have the new information. It is
>too much trouble, apparently.
ARS was bound to not keep up with web-based PHP-coded discussion forums.
NNTP costs money and many ISPs either don't provide it or require that
it be farmed out to commercial NNTP servers. Web based forums keep up
because HTML, PHP, ASP, CCS et al. keeps evolving. NNTP does not.
But ARS will never be abandoned. What's needed is that more and more of
the Old Guard sign on with Enturbulation.
The down side is that web sites can be taken down far more easier than
NNTP news servers or news groups.
They can have ARS when they pry it out of Helena Kobrin's cold dead cunt.
---
June 14'th, 2008: Operation Sea Arrgh, ye scurvy dogs!
http://www.SeaArrgh.COM/ Prepare to "board" the Rear Admiral
"Rev" Norle Enturbulata, DTS, OD
"BarryPepper" <Barry...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:G292k.118842$ea6....@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...
> "Android Cat" <androi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e84bb$484890de$d15a8f55$17...@PRIMUS.CA...
>> Quaoar wrote:
>>> obscene dog wrote:
>>>> I don't usually bother with web fora so it's nice when someone takes
>>>> the time to look through them and cherry pick for me :-)
>
> Me neither. It's hard enough to keep up with ARS and I don't like
> web-based forums, and I also don't like moderated fora (see? Both forums
> and fora are correct).
>
> I figure that if anything important happens it will posted here - the rest
> may just be nOOb talk. Anyway, nowadays most of the news I get from Google
> News anyway, not even from ARS.
>
>>> "Others" are not doing it. Those links that I've posted have gone
>>> unread, or at least unanswered.
>>>
>>> ARS is dead meat.
>
> I think for the little I have lurked there there seems to be a distrust of
> ARS.
On your part, you mean? Why would anyone treat a newsgroup with 'distrust'?
"Rev" Norle Enturbulata, DTS, OD
What's that, a command to "word clear" your post?
So, anyone who thinks your postulate is bullshit simply doesn't have the
mental power to understand you, huh?
Is that your point, then? You're not very clear on that.
Tom Newton
Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed. <lilyf...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Quaoar wrote:
>
>> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed with
>> important critical news about the cult of Scientology that is
>> posted on www.enturbulation.org . Why this stuff never gets
>> to ARS is simple: for at least in present time, ARS has been
>> found wanting as an important venue for dissemination of news
>> critical of Scientology.
>>
>> Go to www.enturbulation.org and review both "Breaking News"
>> and "General Discussion" topic headers. One will be surprised
>> as what Anon is turning up in their researches. None of this
>> important information is being duplicated on ARS.
>>
>> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of
>> information critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology are,
>> at least in the short term, deluded.
>>
>> Q
>
> Those who, like scientology, still believe, that they can shut
> down alt.religion.scientology on usenet, as the only method of
> expressing one's ideas, which cannot be brought under control,
> are, at least in the short term, deluded.
>
The last thing in the world the Church of Scientology wants to do
is shut down this group.
1. It is the only forum where the hate group 'Anonymous' posts
where free speech exists and people can see their hate propaganda
and motives and methods and character questioned.
2. It is a goldmine of information about 'Anonymous' members
and evidence of their lack of morals/truthfulness and criminal
intentions and hypocrisy.
It is actually 'Anonymous' who has done the real damage
to this newsgroup by attacking anyone who isn't a rabid
anti-Scientologist or who criticizes them or questions the
veracity of their hate propaganda, and driving most of them away.
Because of their anti-free-speech bullying they have turned
a group that is supposed to be about scientology into an
anti-scientology forum.
t_shuffle
"Quaoar" <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote in message
news:RpidnXhZ7r368NXV...@comcast.com
> It is truly sad that ARS is being substantially bypassed
> with important critical news about the cult of
> Scientology that is posted on www.enturbulation.org . Why this stuff never
> gets to ARS is simple: for at least
> in present time, ARS has been found wanting as an
> important venue for dissemination of news critical of
> Scientology.
> Go to www.enturbulation.org and review both "Breaking
> News" and "General Discussion" topic headers. One will
> be surprised as what Anon is turning up in their
> researches. None of this important information is being
> duplicated on ARS.
> Those who still believe that ARS is the 'grey lady' of
> information critical of the Church (sic) of Scientology
> are, at least in the short term, deluded.
>
> Q
I think you'd do best to just leave ARS behind. It'll be fine without you,
and you can pursue greener pastures.