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bagheera

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Oct 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/7/97
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Is way down South and Facing from the Rear
I have a bone to pick with him, I think that you should hear.....
This week's fun
Addendum
Was partly due to him
He has betrayed to OSA
Issues twisted Yesterday
On egotistic whim!!

I strongly recommend to all Please do not trust this man,
With any of your private thoughts, Or any of your plans
Cause if he should become nonplused, He'll run and tell the CLAMS!!!
I do not hate him, no I don't, I say I just despise
The way he tries to hurt the few
How God-Damned many times?

He knows not I
I know not him
But I can surely say
You do not treat good souls like this
No this is not the way!

Erlich, If you wanted kids, Would you then cut off your Cock?
You can't win a Religious War by Killing Off your Flock.
A Rogue is more like what you are
A Reverend I think not
What Reverence you for fellow man?
Your actions mark your lot.

For Shame that you are so untrue, and feckless with your words
We all are in this war with you, yet you slaughter your own herd!
What pity do I hold for you? None, I - you do not
A man of promises and lies, who cannot see, and yet has eyes
A man who lives upon our mercy, without respect or courtesy
For people and the lives at stake, you survive but us forsake
You are nothing but a vengeful rake, you should reap just what you sow
You've cut your nose to spite your face, and ARS should know.

Why do you try to damage those with whom you are Allied?
OSA sure had a blast, but what they did won't fly.
Can't you see that they just want to conquer and divide?
You STUPID, STUPID, STUPID MAN, no more will you be snide!

Erlichs Mouth is way down South, and Facing from the Rear,
I thought you all should be aware and that you should not fear
He's just a Smarmy Gunga-Din,
He's stuck, -- without us he can't win
That's why you should know how he's sinned
And why despite, we're stuck with him.

He's shot himself well in the foot, his point is made and rendered moot
The Man is but a simple Boob whose punishment is clear --
That we hold our line, not break our stride, and NOT give him the boot!
Cause that is just what OSA wants, inventing DA fear
And nothing would displease them more than holding Erlich dear.
So Irreverand, you may live, but you will not forget; and lest you think
this is a joke
I am not done quite yet,
you are a Motherfucker sir! You are quite the Cocksucker sir!
You are a twisted Boogeyman, without a hope of grace!!!!
And it is long, far past the time We put you in your place.
You still need us to win the war.
No bets without us Ace!!!
The next time you decide to spew, not a thing will come about
Cause privy you? No not a clue. Because in you now we doubt.

Erlich's mouth is way down South and Facing from the Rear
We will suffer him, and all his sin. That is his Cross to Bear.


Bagheera


Motamika, Motagee.


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Martin Hunt

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In article <01bcd350$be9966a0$5d41...@newsco1.dgsys.com>,
"bagheera" <bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:

>Erlich's mouth way down South and Facing from the Rear

...

>You STUPID, STUPID, STUPID MAN, no more will you be snide!

Fuck. Can I have one of these poems, too?

--
Cogito, ergo sum. Use "Xenu" in Subject: line of email.


Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine

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In article <01bcd350$be9966a0$5d41...@newsco1.dgsys.com>,
bagheera <bagh...@dgsys.com> writes:
>
>Is way down South and Facing from the Rear
>I have a bone to pick with him, I think that you should hear.....
>This week's fun
>Addendum
>Was partly due to him
>He has betrayed to OSA
>Issues twisted Yesterday
>On egotistic whim!!
>
>I strongly recommend to all Please do not trust this man,
>With any of your private thoughts, Or any of your plans
>Cause if he should become nonplused, He'll run and tell the CLAMS!!!

Uhunh. Any proof of this? Who are you, anyway -- you seem to
be connected to Arnie [at least both are at Digital Gateway Systems
which ain't thant big] though you seem cleverer and more articulate
than him.

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Martin Hunt

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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In article <343cdf74...@snews.zippo.com>,
inF...@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) wrote:

>"bagheera" <bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:

Bagheera is annoyed by her perception that Dennis hacks on fellow
critics. So what does she do? Hack on a fellow critic!

Smart move. Lead by example, Bag. Put your own house in order first,
and all that good shit. Me, I hack on everyone anyway, so just ignore
it.

bagheera

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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Martin wrote:

Bagheera is annoyed by her perception that Dennis hacks on fellow
> critics. So what does she do? Hack on a fellow critic!
>
> Smart move. Lead by example, Bag. Put your own house in order first,
> and all that good shit. Me, I hack on everyone anyway, so just ignore
> it.
>


Martin:

I am not "annoyed by my perception". I am angry because Erlich is behaving
in a cruel and destructive manner. Irreverand is hurting people who are
helping him and he knows it and he does not give a fuck!!! I have not
"hacked on" anyone. I have told ARS what Dennis has done so that he is put
on notice. He cannot continue to behave as if the world revolves around
him, and CARELESSLY DAMAGE CRITICS WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES. His current
behavior WILL NOT STAND, and I encourage everyone to take precautions when
dealing with him (because he cares not a whit for anyone here, just look at
his reply to my verse) I want to protect others from his careless hooves,
and also to call him on the carpet for his bad behavior. There is no place
on this planet for egotistical, inconsiderate, disrespecting, self-centered
fucks like him. Kick him in the ass when he is bad. He deserves it, after
all, he is neither holy, nor helpful, nor considerate, nor consistently
kind, he is but a man, and a very simple one at that, and he has no idea
all the things that people have done for him, (and many people have, and it
does not mean that they are any less significant actions if they are done
without his asking). Erlich needs to get over himself and treat people
with respect and consideration, otherwise, he should expect to be strung up
by his toes, very publicly. You don't tread on good people, man.

Sincerely and Without Prejudice
With all Five Thousand teeth gleaming,

Bagheera

Tilman Hausherr

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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In <01bcd350$be9966a0$5d41...@newsco1.dgsys.com>, "bagheera"
<bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:

>Erlich, If you wanted kids, Would you then cut off your Cock?
>You can't win a Religious War by Killing Off your Flock.
>A Rogue is more like what you are
>A Reverend I think not
>What Reverence you for fellow man?
>Your actions mark your lot.

What's going on? Did you meet Steve Fishman? Or are you Steve Fishman?

Tilman

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kEvin

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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In article <01bcd3fc$cd4064e0$5d41...@newsco1.dgsys.com>,
bagheera <bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:

>I am not "annoyed by my perception". I am angry because Erlich is behaving
>in a cruel and destructive manner.

Could you elaborate on that? I couldn't translate your verse too well,
but it looked like you were accusing him of feeding information on
others to OSA for dead agenting purposes. There's all sorts of ways
for OSA to get information from someone, and not all of them involve
the person doing it deliberately. (The whole blue bathrobe thing was
OSA crowing that they keep Dennis under surveillance.)

I think you'll get a better resolution to your beef if you clearly
and factually state it. It's hard to answer innuendo and you shouldn't
expect someone to respond favorably to it.


kEvin
m...@primenet.com

Ceon Ramon

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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In article <01bcd401$234dfa60$5d41...@newsco1.dgsys.com>,
bagheera <bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:
>
>Rev. Dennis Erlich <inF...@super.zippo.com> wrote in article
><343cdf74...@snews.zippo.com>...
[...]

>> >He's just a Smarmy Gunga-Din,
>>
>> Tarbaby.
>Define "Tarbaby" sir. I'm sure that there are many races who would love to
>hear your definition.

For someone who calls herself after Kipling's great noble panther you
ought to be ashamed of your ignorance of Kipling's Gunga Din, who was an
exceedingly brave man and a hero. You have also been neglecting your Joel
Chandler Harris, or else you would know that in his fables of the American
south the "tarbaby" was a clever ruse used by Brer Rabbit to avoid being
eaten by the fox. You seem to imply there's something racist about it,
and that is so far from the truth that it doesn't appear on a map.

Get a grip, Bagheera. Take a lesson from the cats and chill out.

--Barbara


Roland

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Saint Dennis! This cannot be true! Surely this cannot be true! You are a
saint, yes? We all know that. You are our saviour and our leader. I
worship you. We all worship you. Dennis, our Saint, save us all. Be our
leader and accompany us to OT glory.

Roland

Martin Hunt

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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In article <34482dcb...@snews.zippo.com>,

inF...@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) wrote:

> "bagheera" <bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:

>>When ever you do,
>>everyone will be made aware of your actions.
>
> I assume this means you plan on objecting to my actions or words.
>Please try to be concise when you refer to what I have done.
>Otherwise, neither I nor anyone else will know about wtf you are
>talking. As is the case now, you brainless twit.

Ho-hum; another critic pissing match. I thought we were beyond all
this now?

> Threatening to come between me and my attorneys? Cool move,
>fuck-face. Why don't you send them a letter (using your real name, of
>course bag-o) objecting to their representation of me. I'm sure
>they'll be really impressed and get right on dropping me once they
>find out from you who they are actually representing.
>
>>Tread lightly or the ground may part beneath your feet.

Christ; can anyone say what this is all about? Something went on
behind the scenes, that's for sure. Dennis do something that you
perceive as hurting Arnie, Bag? Tell us about it, rather than
all this nicey-nicey dancing around with poetry and threats of
wounding Dennis horribly. Say what's on your mind; better to vent
that spleen, as I'm sure Dennis would agree, than let it build up
inside and drown you in bile. Here's your chance for catharsis:
let it all hang out. That's what the internet's good for, among
other things.

ttyl,
martin.

Roland

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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Rebecca Hartong wrote:
<snip>
> Bagheera, this was one of the most wonderfully bizarre posts I've read
> in a long time!
>
> I laughed!
> I cried!
> I loved it!!!
>
> (I just can't imagine anyone sitting down at their computer and
> actually spending time putting such an epic together... )

Don't witches normally come in threes? We have Diane (Witch of Zun),
you...... Where's the other one?

Roland

Martin Hunt

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In article <01bcd3fc$cd4064e0$5d41...@newsco1.dgsys.com>,
"bagheera" <bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:

>Martin:


>
>I am not "annoyed by my perception". I am angry because Erlich is behaving

>in a cruel and destructive manner. Irreverand is hurting people who are
>helping him and he knows it and he does not give a fuck!!!

But it was a long time ago; shouldn't you leave it to the injured
party to make the complaint? In any case, this has been beaten to
death on ars, and, if you read the history books, you'll see what
I said. I wasn't too happy about it, either, and said so directly.

Your poetry bit was just confusing; it came out of nowhere, and made
it look like *you* were the offending party. As I said, why not take
this all to email or the phone? It's off-topic for ars, anyway, as
is has nothing to do with Scientology per se.

>I have not "hacked on" anyone.

Betteen re-read your posts; you most certainly did hack on Dennis.
Not to say he didn't hack you back in return; you both end up looking
like idiots. Enough stupidity to go around.

>I have told ARS what Dennis has done so that he is put on notice.

I must have missed it where you said what Dennis did to provoe your
epic poem about him.

>He cannot continue to behave as if the world revolves around
>him, and CARELESSLY DAMAGE CRITICS WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.

Actually, he probably can, you know. How do you plan to stop him?
Dennis is a man unto himself, possibly more than anyone else on ars.
You'll never change him, believe me. Live with it, or waste your
time and fill ars up with space junk to destroy the orbiting
satellites. What I'm saying is give it a rest; take it from someone
who's been there, done that, about 1,000 times.

>His current
>behavior WILL NOT STAND, and I encourage everyone to take precautions when
>dealing with him (because he cares not a whit for anyone here, just look at
>his reply to my verse)

Er, look at your verse; I would have been far less kind if you had
directed such babble towards me. Hell, I probably would have laughed
in your face, and then dismissed you as an OSA sock puppet. :-)

>I want to protect others from his careless hooves,
>and also to call him on the carpet for his bad behavior. There is no place
>on this planet for egotistical, inconsiderate, disrespecting, self-centered
>fucks like him.

There you go; let it all hang out. You're obviously angry. Give him
a call and take his ear off. I can see how email won't work; it would
be posted.

>Kick him in the ass when he is bad. He deserves it, after
>all, he is neither holy, nor helpful, nor considerate, nor consistently
>kind, he is but a man, and a very simple one at that, and he has no idea
>all the things that people have done for him, (and many people have, and it
>does not mean that they are any less significant actions if they are done
>without his asking). Erlich needs to get over himself and treat people
>with respect and consideration, otherwise, he should expect to be strung up
>by his toes, very publicly. You don't tread on good people, man.

Hmm. Well, read Margaret's posting at the time, too; she was *far*
from blameless. She went on a prolonged attack on Dennis, and was
generally dismissed at the time as being a flaming fuck head doing
OSA's work for them. She made literally hundreds of posts about
Dennis, attacking Dennis. I still thought the supposed outing was
wrong, and said so at the time in my usual high-minded prose (a
blithering stream of invective, if I recall correctly :-) ).

All I can say is:
1. It's off-topic; take it elsewhere or talk about Scientology, please.
2. You won't change Dennis; many have tried before, and none have
succeeded. He is a self-motivated man with a simple and admirable
goal: to incinerate Scientology and spread the ashes far and wide.
3. Say what you mean; speak from the heart. Poetry is nice, but you
didn't even say *why* you were mad. I'm sure I wasn't the only
one who didn't have a clue why you were acting this way.
4. Leave others to fight their own fights (advise I will now take).
If he is over it and she's over it, why bother with it any more?
5. Save those teeth for Scientology; as wicked and evil as Dennis is,
Scientology is vastly worse. :-)
6. Beware the entire newsgroup getting caught up in flames, as has
happened in the past several times. You, all by yourself and with
your actions, could waste one month of time in the fight against
the cult on ars, but why would you want to do a thing like that?

Ceon:

For someone who calls herself after Kipling's great noble panther you
ought to be ashamed of your ignorance of Kipling's Gunga Din, who was an
exceedingly brave man and a hero. You have also been neglecting your Joel
Chandler Harris, or else you would know that in his fables of the American
south the "tarbaby" was a clever ruse used by Brer Rabbit to avoid being
eaten by the fox. You seem to imply there's something racist about it,
and that is so far from the truth that it doesn't appear on a map.

Get a grip, Bagheera. Take a lesson from the cats and chill out.

-Barbara

Tilman:

What's going on? Did you meet Steve Fishman? Or are you Steve Fishman?

Dave:

Uhunh. Any proof of this? Who are you, anyway -- you seem to
be connected to Arnie [at least both are at Digital Gateway Systems
which ain't thant big] though you seem cleverer and more articulate
than him.

***

And so it begins again...

Take my advice and drop this "issue" entirely. It's not going anywhere
fast, believe me. This road has been travelled down many times before,
and it leads nowhere. Now, where were we? Oh, yes; I'm on the radio
again today in a couple hours: two more hours of broadcast suppression
brought to you by the Western Candian ARSCC! :-)

Gary Scarff

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Rebecca Hartong wrote:

>
> In article <343cdf74...@snews.zippo.com>, inF...@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) wrote:
> >"bagheera" <bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:
>
> >>Erlich's mouth is way down South and Facing from the Rear
> >>We will suffer him, and all his sin. That is his Cross to Bear.
> >
> > Hardly the Iliad, Bag-o.
>
> <snicker>

>
> Bagheera, this was one of the most wonderfully bizarre posts I've read
> in a long time!
>
> I laughed!
> I cried!
> I loved it!!!
>
> (I just can't imagine anyone sitting down at their computer and
> actually spending time putting such an epic together... )

As they said in the movie "When Harry Met Sally", I'll have what she's
having!

Bernie

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Oct 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/10/97
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inF...@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) wrote in article
<34482dcb...@snews.zippo.com> (alt.religion.scientology):

Erlich says:

> I assume this means you plan on objecting to my actions or words.

and he ends up with

>you brainless twit.

A perfect demonstration of his blindness.

Bernie


Ted Mayett (KoX)

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On Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:56:40 GMT, til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman
Hausherr) wrote:


>
>Welcome back, Margaret. European (and a minority of americans) will
>certainly not be offended by your business (see my opinion in a response
>to "George Worthy" aka wgert), so hang around. My opinion of you, as a
>newsgroup poster, remains the same as before.
>

So that's it?
An OSA post claiming a disgusting thing about a woman and it simply
becomes a fact? Just like that? It is fortunate for ARS. We now
know Margaret's profession. We know because OSA said so!

I read the post and dismissed it as more OSA garbage, like the cats
with cold sores. Or the DA material on Erlich, Lerma, etc.
Why are you so quick to believe this DA pack Tilman?
Or are you just having a bit of fun?

--
Ted Mayett OT 1.1
http://xenu.phys.uit.no/cgi-bin/globloc.cgi


yvind Seland

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Oct 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/10/97
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In article <19971010065...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, marga...@aol.com (MARGARETH1) writes:
> Tilman wrote:
>
> >I'd say that Dennis outing made the attack "cheaper", i.e. they did not
> >have to activate the AOL plant(s) to find out your real name.
>
> They would not have been able to find out my real name through the AOL account
> I was using when I was Steve O.
>
> I hope, BTW, that your references to my "business" are a joke, and that you
> are not taking as gospel the representations of an OSA DA pack.
>
> Margaret
>


Warning: Lot of sarcasm ahead.


Without knowing Tilman, I am quite certain that the comment was meant as
a joke. A joke with a serious point though. A poster does not lose
his credibility if someone posts something indicating that you are not
having 2.2 children, an employment as a telephone sanitizer and a
wife working part-time at the kindergarten.


Sometime even ARS regulars may believe for a shorter or a longer time
the "information" of DA packs. Most of the latest DA packs however, even
if they were true means nothing for the credibility of the poster.
Has Scarff lost his credibility because his grandfather might have
been a strong defender of the previous racial school system in the
south of the USA and seen upon Scarrfs illnes as a punishment for his
sins?

Posted and mailed

Ųyvind Seland

Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine

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In article <343D4D49.7A7F@_SPAMTRAP_virgin.net>,
Roland <roland.rashleigh-berry@_SPAMTRAP_virgin.net> writes:
>Rebecca Hartong wrote:
><snip>

>> (I just can't imagine anyone sitting down at their computer and
>> actually spending time putting such an epic together... )
>
>Don't witches normally come in threes? We have Diane (Witch of Zun),
>you...... Where's the other one?

Bernice, aka ZsaZsa.

MARGARETH1

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Tilman Hausherr

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Oct 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/11/97
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In <jensting-ya0240800...@snews2.zippo.com>,
jens...@imaginet.fr (Jens Tingleff) wrote:

>One hopes so. Sometimes the sense of humour of us Europeans becomes a bit
>to dry for a US focused group such as a.r.s.

You all should see my first response to "George Worthy". Margaret's
profession doesn't matter. Anyway, it seems I misunderstood her text
"which made possible OSA's attack on me the other day" as
acknoledgement. Sorry.

Jens Tingleff

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In article <343de4d9...@snews.zippo.com>, te...@skylink.net (Ted
Mayett (KoX)) wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:56:40 GMT, til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman
> Hausherr) wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Welcome back, Margaret. European (and a minority of americans) will
> >certainly not be offended by your business (see my opinion in a response
> >to "George Worthy" aka wgert), so hang around. My opinion of you, as a
> >newsgroup poster, remains the same as before.
> >
>
> So that's it?
> An OSA post claiming a disgusting thing about a woman and it simply
> becomes a fact? Just like that? It is fortunate for ARS. We now
> know Margaret's profession. We know because OSA said so!
>

Seconded...

> I read the post and dismissed it as more OSA garbage, like the cats
> with cold sores. Or the DA material on Erlich, Lerma, etc.
> Why are you so quick to believe this DA pack Tilman?
> Or are you just having a bit of fun?

One hopes so. Sometimes the sense of humour of us Europeans becomes a bit


to dry for a US focused group such as a.r.s.

Tilman??

Jens

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On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:57:06 GMT, te...@skylink.net (Ted Mayett (KoX))
wrote:

[snip]

>No big thing. But i predict that other females on this NG will be
>called prostitutes now because using that line got a
>rise from some of the males here.
><it's a bad joke, but i couldn't help it. <smile>>

That's been happening for more than two years, Ted. The world was
treated to a series of posts on the AOL Scientology[tm] board naming
me as a "porn queen" who "does it with kids." Interestingly enough,
although the AOL powerz-that-be remove messages uncomplimentary to the
CoS with lightning-like speed from the AOL folders, it took days
(about a week, I think) for them to remove those posts, even after
others lodged official complaints about them.

Actually, the Scientologist[tm] attempt to smear me by calling me an
actress in pornographic films resulted in the best thing that happened
to me from participating in this battle. Judith Bradford (aka
SpintheCa and aspasia) contacted me because she was doing academic
research about sex workers. What developed from that first contact
was a lifelong friendship with an incredible person.

The other side of the coin are encounters like the one I had with
XMudder on IRC channel #scientology. When Martin Hunt posted the log
of my IRC conversation, I think he omitted the section where XMudder
asked me about my activities as a porn actress and prostitute.

It seems that many people around here are more than willing to believe
what they wish to believe without investigating the source of their
information. It also raises the very interesting question as to why
sex workers should be considered less credible than those engaged in
other employment.


Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net

Ted Mayett (KoX)

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On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:26:26 GMT, til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman
Hausherr) wrote:

>>One hopes so. Sometimes the sense of humour of us Europeans becomes a bit
>>to dry for a US focused group such as a.r.s.
>

>You all should see my first response to "George Worthy". Margaret's
>profession doesn't matter.

Yes, I saw that. And really did figure you were just having fun.
So far as i noticed you were the only one to compliment her. You had
remarked that she must be doing a good job as a "secret" critic to get
a DA pack. I believe she was DA'd because of that Gay picket sign she
carried at the last Washington DC picket. Recall that shortly after
that picket, Wayne Whitney had done a picket during the Gay Parade in
San Francisco. I think it was in San Francisco. Anyway, besides
catching a package of prophylactics thrown from one of the floats,
while Wayne was standing there with his picket sign one of the Gay's
jumped off a float and had his picture taken with Wayne and the picket
sign. Too much coincidence. I still say Margaret's sign cost the
cult the Gay Community. It is a close knit community. The scenario
with Wayne helps prove it. Because of that sign, Margaret was DA'd.
IMHO.

> Anyway, it seems I misunderstood her text
>"which made possible OSA's attack on me the other day" as
>acknoledgement. Sorry.
>

No big thing. But i predict that other females on this NG will be


called prostitutes now because using that line got a
rise from some of the males here.
<it's a bad joke, but i couldn't help it. <smile>>

>Tilman
>
>
>
>--
>Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
>til...@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos
>
> Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.
>
>Find broken links on your web site with "Xenu's Link Sleuth":
> http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/xenulink.html
>
>

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William Barwell

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In article <343de4d9...@snews.zippo.com>,
Ted Mayett (KoX) <te...@skylink.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:56:40 GMT, til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman
>Hausherr) wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Welcome back, Margaret. European (and a minority of americans) will
>>certainly not be offended by your business (see my opinion in a response
>>to "George Worthy" aka wgert), so hang around. My opinion of you, as a
>>newsgroup poster, remains the same as before.
>>
>
>So that's it?
>An OSA post claiming a disgusting thing about a woman and it simply
>becomes a fact? Just like that? It is fortunate for ARS. We now
>know Margaret's profession. We know because OSA said so!


My sentiments exactly. It is almost surely a big fat whopping lie and/or
distortion, because, this is what Scienntology, specifically OSA does.

Distorts, lies and libels.
With malice aforethought.
Such as in the case of Mr. Hill which eventualy cost this hate cult teh
largest libel suit in Canadian history.

Why should we take the word of this cult's OSA lie campaign
knowing they libel and lie as a matter of policy?


>
>I read the post and dismissed it as more OSA garbage, like the cats
>with cold sores. Or the DA material on Erlich, Lerma, etc.
>Why are you so quick to believe this DA pack Tilman?
>Or are you just having a bit of fun?


Remember the Canadian libel case against Scientology.
They will peddle any lie they think they can get away with, especially
against somebody they probably figure has not teh financial resources to
pursue a libel suit againt this hate-cult.

Suck libels earn it the title hate-cult, that is all it is.
It is a cult which is based on hate and hate mongering.
Such libel campaigns prove that and all good men and women
should oppose such a cult.

Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Slack!


Bernie

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til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote in article
<3493d0bd...@news.snafu.de> (alt.religion.scientology):

>your business

Thank you for this confirmation that the DA pack about
"Rev." Dennis L. Erlich is to be believed as true, Tilman.

Bernie


Jens Tingleff

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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> On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:57:06 GMT, te...@skylink.net (Ted Mayett (KoX))
> wrote:

[..]


>
> The other side of the coin are encounters like the one I had with
> XMudder on IRC channel #scientology. When Martin Hunt posted the log
> of my IRC conversation, I think he omitted the section where XMudder
> asked me about my activities as a porn actress and prostitute.
>
> It seems that many people around here are more than willing to believe
> what they wish to believe without investigating the source of their
> information.

XMudder on IRC becomes "people around here"? Interesting...

I'm not defending XMudder - I'd just like to point to the stream of
responses to Margaret's "Good-bye" posting.

> It also raises the very interesting question as to why
> sex workers should be considered less credible than those engaged in
> other employment.

To me, the only thing important is that the accusation was made (and the
reason it was made). It's definitely of the LBJ school of accusations. LBJ
accused another candidate of fucking pigs. His staff told him "we can't say
that - it's not true" LBJ: "of course not, but I want to make the bastard
deny it."

This, to me, was the purpose of the attack on Margaret. While it might well
be true that a lot of people do not (and should not) give a toss about what
anyone does, it's also (IMHO) true that the accusation is unspeakably vile.

Jens

Roland

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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Jens Tingleff wrote:
<snip>

> And for you automated email spammers out there,
> here's the email addresses of the current board of
> the Federal Communications Commission:
>
> Chairman Reed Hundt: rhu...@fcc.gov
> Commissioner James Quello: jqu...@fcc.gov
> Commissioner Susan Ness: sn...@fcc.gov
> Commissioner Rachelle Chong: rch...@fcc.gov
>
> And let's help you send some spam to the US Postal Service, too:
>
> cust...@email.usps.gov


The spamming programs look for the .gov in email addresses and they do
not send stuff out ot them.


Roland

Zane

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:00:52 +0100, Roland
<roland.rashleigh-berry@_SPAMTRAP_virgin.net> wrote:


>The spamming programs look for the .gov in email addresses and they do
>not send stuff out ot them.

Hmmm, well I guess some civic-minded soul should set up a remailer.
Something like hearusnow.com oughta do. Mail sent to
rhundt-...@hearusnow.com could be automatically redirected to the
appropriate recipient. There's no law against it, right?

Zane


Ex Mudder

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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(Diane Richardson) wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:57:06 GMT, te...@skylink.net (Ted Mayett (KoX))
>wrote:
>
>[snip]

>The other side of the coin are encounters like the one I had with
>XMudder on IRC channel #scientology. When Martin Hunt posted the log
>of my IRC conversation, I think he omitted the section where XMudder
>asked me about my activities as a porn actress and prostitute.
>
Not surprising. Martin forgot a lot of things when he made that
post.

>It seems that many people around here are more than willing to believe
>what they wish to believe without investigating the source of their

>information. It also raises the very interesting question as to why


>sex workers should be considered less credible than those engaged in
>other employment.
>

Less credible? Nope. Only if they deny it.

"Some of my best friends are dominatix"


Martin Hunt

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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In article <343f97b...@snews.zippo.com>,
inF...@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) wrote:

>mar...@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt) wrote:
>
>>5. Save those teeth for Scientology; as wicked and evil as Dennis is,
>> Scientology is vastly worse. :-)
>

> Hey!

Oops; Kbd thetans strike again. I meant to write:

...5. Save those teeth for Scientology; as sweet and cuddly as Dennis

is, Scientology is vastly worse. :-)

--

Sassie10

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97
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On Wed, 08 Oct 1997 01:20:14 GMT, inF...@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich)
wrote:

>"bagheera" <bagh...@dgsys.com> wrote:
>
>>We all are in this war with you, yet you slaughter your own >>herd!
>
> Hadn't you heard? I don't want one.
>

bagherra, here is excerpt from:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------

InFormer Ministry- kindness and compassion?

Words he lives by....

===============================================
Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * *
===============================================
You are mistaking me for someone who still gives a shit what you think.

I like to make damn sure people have reasons not to like me, in case they start
lookin' for one. I'd rather "friends" abandon me before we get too friendly
and I begin to trust them with any confidences.

Message ID <19970908041...@ladder02.news.aol.com>

David Gerard

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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:02:51 GMT,
Zane <zane@die_spammers.mabry.com> wrote:
:On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:00:52 +0100, Roland
:<roland.rashleigh-berry@_SPAMTRAP_virgin.net> wrote:


That wuold be actively redirecting crap at them for no good reason
and would proabably be treated as a mailbombing. I would treat it as
such if someone did it to me.

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I hereby encourage all earthlink.net users to leave for a provider whose
email and Usenet messages are not boycotted by the rest of the net, and
for ISPs to continue to block earthlink.net email and Usenet messages from
Earthlink, until earthlink.net *stop* the flow of junk email and spam.

Bernie

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ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote in article
<343fa2bb...@snews.zippo.com> (alt.religion.scientology):

>The other side of the coin are encounters like the one I had with
>XMudder on IRC channel #scientology. When Martin Hunt posted the log
>of my IRC conversation, I think he omitted the section where XMudder
>asked me about my activities as a porn actress and prostitute.

So, not only Martin posted the log, but he edited it as
well...

Bernie


Joe Harrington

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Oct 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/18/97
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Bernie wrote:
>
> ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote in article
> <343fa2bb...@snews.zippo.com> (alt.religion.scientology):
>
> >The other side of the coin are encounters like the one I had with
> >XMudder on IRC channel #scientology. When Martin Hunt posted the log
> >of my IRC conversation, I think he omitted the section where XMudder
> >asked me about my activities as a porn actress and prostitute.

Are the videos still available??? Maybe Jeff Jacobsen can include them
in his inventory .

:-)

Joe

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