Facts about Cincinnati Org
The Fact Man
>> Just in case you have need of our services for someone while I am
>> away I have included:
>>
>> - A description of the org and the surrounding geographical area plus
>> websites to visit.
>> - Names and training level of all technical staff including Qual and
>> Purif staff.
>> - Names and direct telephone numbers of key staff and their posts,
>> plus training and staff experience.
>> - How to get someone a free session who needs one.
>> - How to get a new person started and who will be helping them plus
>> their direct phone number.
>> - A list of all the preclears we have sent for the CCRD and OT levels
>> - almost 70.
>> - Cost of auditing and auditing packages plus our special
>> Introductory Auditing Package.
>> - A list of hotels and restaurants in the area.
>>
>> Hope this will be of some use to you. Please file it also so you have
>> it for a later date should you need our services.
>>
>> ML
>> David
>> Facts about Cincinnati Org
>>
>> We Clear people as fast as, they buy their auditing, and stay in
>> session to receive it. To do that we ensure the following:
>>
>> 1. Our auditors ( Golden Age of Tech trained of course), usually have
>> only one or two pc's on their lineups (99.9% of the time), so anyone
>> you send here gets
>> 25 - 50 hours, or more, per week. This is a constant you can count
>> on, given that the pc can take this much auditing.
>> 2. We are open 9am- 10pm 7 days a week, except Sunday night (which is
>> one of the reasons we can promise this
>> 3. 52 of our 78 staff currently, are FULL TIME staff (which is
>> another reason we can promise this).
>> 4. We have a full time Flag trained Golden Age of Tech Ethics Officer
>>
>> We are servicing public in the following states and their respective
>> cities: Ohio - all over
>> Kentucky - all over
>> Tennessee - Nashville and Memphis
>> Indiana - all over
>> Michigan - all over
>> North Carolina - Charlotte
>> South Carolina - Columbia
>> Pennsylvania - all over
>> New York - upstate mainly
>> West Virginia - Huntington, Charleston and surrounding areas
>> Georgia - Atlanta and surrounding areas
>> Wisconsin - Green Bay, Milwaukee and surrounding areas
>> Texas - Houston area
>> Mississippi - Biloxi
>> Louisiana - New Orleans, Lafayette, Baton Rouge
>> Illinois - Champagne
>>
>>
>> My name - David Sonenfild
>> My Post - Senior Service Consultant
>> My phone - 513 562 2166
>> My cell - 513 200 2340
>> My fax - 513 562 2168
>> Org reception - 513 421 2927
>> My e-mail address - cofscin...@earthlink.net
>> My postal address - Church of Scientology of Ohio
>> 219 W 4th Street,
>> Cincinnati. Ohio. 45202
>>
>> Our C/S=B9s, auditors, upcoming auditors and supervisors are all Golde=
n
>> Age of tech trained. They are as follows:
>>
>> Snr C/S - Mike Roiger - Grad V/FPRD/KTL/LOC/Purif C/S and Clear
>>
>> 1. Auditor - Keri Heck - Grad V auditor and Clear
>> 2. Auditor - Barry Sutherland - Grad V/FPRD HGC Auditor and also a
>> Grad V/FPRD C/S and Purif C/S.
>> 3. Auditor - Alisa Williams - Class V FPRD Auditor,on Grad V &
>> KTL/LOC Review auditor.
>> 4. Auditor - Phil Campus - Class IV
>> 5. Auditor - Steve Carrico - Class IV.
>> 6. Auditor - Al Phlips - Class IV/FPRD and OT4
>> 7. Auditor - Andrew Organ - Class IV
>> 8. Auditor - Sajid Ali - Class IV
>> 9. Auditor - Razia Khan - Class IV
>> 10. Auditor - Todd Chase - Class IV
>> 11. Auditor - Gotty Durich - Class V - also a trained Purif I/C.
>> 12. Auditor - Pam Abell - Class IV.
>>
>> We also deliver Golden Age of Tech
>> auditing in 7 languages =AD Spanish
>> Italian
>> Russian
>> Urdu
>> (Pakistan)
>> Punjabi (Another
>> Pakistan language)
>> English
>> Flemish
>> (Belgian)
>>
>> Our Qual Sec speaks fluent German and she is also
>> a Golden Age of Tech auditor.
>>
>> Flag trainees:
>> CCRD Auditor - Michael Gatza - Class IV Flag trained and training to
>> be the CCRD auditor
>> CCRD C/S - Rachael Kasle - Grad V Flag Trained and training to be the
>> CCRD C/S
>>
>> These are our auditor trainees not Class 4 yet and supervisors in
>> training:
>>
>> Bert McBerty - On Class I
>> Thalia Ricotta - On Student Hat
>> Naeem Chishti - On Pro TR=B9s
>> Melanie Nichols - On Student Hat
>> Chad Nichols - On Pro TRs
>> Shawn Grubb - On Student Hat
>> Gene Greer - On Student Hat
>>
>> These are our technical staff in Qual:
>>
>> Kirsten Reupke - Qual Sec and Golden Age of Tech Level 0 auditor
>> Chad Wescoat - Golden Age of Tech Class IV and Professional Course
>> Supervisor - is the Cramming Officer and double hatted as Interne Sup
>> Andy Hoosier - Staff Section Officer - trained auditor and 3 years
>> staff experience
>>
>> These are our Supervisors:
>>
>> Ben Kasle - Full Golden Age of Tech Professional Course Supervisor.
>> Keith Abell - Golden Age of Tech Professor and KTL/LOC and Academy
>> sup. Craig Heck - Golden Age of Tech Professional Academy Sup.
>> Adam Mingery - Div 6 Golden Age of Tech sup and trained Purif I/C.
>> Also done KTL/LOC plus Elementary Data Series Evaluator=B9s Course.
>>
>> These are our Purif staff:
>>
>> Shawn Mahaney - Purif I/C and Purif C/S.
>> Anthony Carr - Deputy Purif I/C
>>
>>
>> Over the last few years we have been very busy auditing people, and
>> training people on Solo 1, so they can do their upper levels.
>>
>> Here is a list of those people who in the last 3 years or so have:
>> - Originated Clear and been routed for a CCRD
>> - Competed NED and routed for upper levels
>> - Completed the Solo 1 course and routed for upper levels
>> - Currently on Solo 1 or its prerequisites
>>
>> Chuck Kowitz
>> Stefanie Kowitz
>> Steve Carrico
>> Keri Heck
>> Craig Heck
>> Norman Lowry
>> Eric Davis
>> Dr Roy Finley
>> Dr Brian Foley
>> Lonnie Harris
>> Steve Hobbs
>> Ben Kasle
>> Diane Null
>> Dr Scott Null
>> Rachael Kasle
>> Dr Brad Spence
>> Marcy O'Donnell
>> Dr Tricia Richards
>> Dr Scott Shelby
>> Dr Keith Snead
>> Dr Mike Teifke
>> Dr Chuck Popa
>> Jamie Popa
>> Dr Kelly Barnes
>> Dr Gary Billingsley
>> Craig Beutler
>> Marisa Centrachhio
>> John Chan
>> Lori Davis
>> Brian Dawson
>> Laurie Miller
>> Chris Miller
>> Meredith Finley
>> Candy Hammer
>> Carol McBerty
>> Michele Keith
>> Robert Keith
>> Monte Nighswonger
>> Rich Miller
>> Dr Brian Nunley
>> Dr Paul Rodeghero
>> Dr Jim Speiser
>> Shawn Kirk
>> Peg Kirk
>> Cindy Wheeler
>> Karin Simpson
>> Dr Deva Khalsa
>> Jane Allen
>> Dr Carl Smudde
>> Dr James Adams
>> Dr Ben Choinoire
>> Eddie Ballman
>> Vicki Daugherty
>> Elanor Rippl
>> Dave Bogema
>> Laurie Gailounis
>> Christine Harrison
>> Dr Melodie Billiot
>> Bob Campbell
>> Claire Mason
>> Ron McCreight
>> Mike Roiger
>> Peggy Seiwert
>> Sue Swank
>> Craig Walters
>> Rocky Bartozek
>> Dr Brian O=B9Donnell
>> Dr Mike Tillery
>> Shari Shelby
>>
>> Go to this web address for a map of where Cincinnati is in relation
>> to other areas. Just cut and paste it into the your web browser
>> address section:
>>
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>> Driving times to Cincinnati:
>> Chicago to Cincinnati - 5 hrs
>> Detroit to Cincinnati - 4 1/2 hrs
>> Indianapolis to Cincinnati - 2 hrs
>> Louisville to Cincinnati - 2 hrs
>> Lexington to Cincinnati - 1 1/2 hrs
>> Pittsburgh to Cincinnati - 5 hrs
>> Buffalo to Cincinnati - 6 1/2 hrs
>> Nashville to Cincinnati - 4 hrs
>> Atlanta to Cincinnati - 7 hrs
>> Charlotte to Cincinnati - 6 1/2 hrs
>> Cleveland to Cincinnati - 5 hrs
>> NYC to Cincinnati - 10 hrs
>> Philadelphia to Cincinnati - 9 hrs
>>
>> Some photos and data about Cincinnati go to the following websites:
>> http://cinci.com/views/
>> http://www.citybeat.com/2000-12-21/index.shtml
>>
>> Cincinnati has been voted several times for the most livable city in
>> the US. This is due to inexpensive housing, food and clothing, and
>> the general expenses of living, coupled with the unpolluted
>> environment and close rural areas to the city. In the Greater
>> Cincinnati area, there is around 1.2 million people.
>> Across the Ohio River, which puts you in Famous Historic Downtown
>> Covington, Kentucky, there is a distinct Kentucky feel which is
>> unmistakable. There are much less people in the Northern Kentucky
>> area, and you can see farms within 20 minutes of crossing the border.
>>
>> If you choose to go to Indiana, just drive 17 miles west from
>> Cincinnati, and you are there, and, also amid many farms which
>> continue for the 2hr drive to Indianapolis, where the famous
>> Indianapolis 500 car race is.
>>
>> That is why this area is called the Tri-State area - Ohio, Kentucky
>> and Indiana all meet right here.
>>
>> Cincinnati is the 3rd largest broadcasting center in the US.
>> It was voted the most livable city in the USA, twice in the last 5
>> years. It has its own Broadway Shows section.
>> It has three huge stadiums along the river, one used for concerts
>> etc, and the other two used for football and baseball. The famous
>> Pete Rose comes from Cincinnati, as does Ken Griffee Jr and Snr.
>> The city has a definite mid -west friendly small town feel to it, as
>> anyone that has been here will tell you.
>> The city is also quite affluent, with many historic buildings
>> downtown, including our own org being classed as historic. The
>> economic wealth of the area has its roots in the early 1700=B9s and
>> 1800=B9s, when Cincinnati was THE center of trade along the Ohio River.
>> Many businesses have been here for many, many years, passed down from
>> father to son, and so on.
>> It is also one of the largest centers for certain high tech computer
>> parts, a fact not commonly known to the rest of the US.
>>
>> Cincinnati; an interesting place. Ideal to live in, but unless you
>> have lived here, you may not hear much about it. It quietly expands.
>>
>> Org Facts:
>>
>> 1. We have 78 staff and more arriving regularly.
>>
>> 2. 52 of those 78 staff are here full time, so servicing you is
>> never a problem.
>>
>> 3. We have 4 Golden Age of Tech Supervisors - 3 Golden Age of Tech
>> trained sups in the academy and one in the Div 6 courseroom. One of
>> the academy sups is a Professor and a Key to Life and Life
>> Orientation Supervisor.
>> The Div 6 courseroom is completely separate from the academy, and is
>> spacious, and newly renovated.
>> The academy is also spacious, and newly renovated.
>> The academy and Div 6 courseroom delivers to students 7 days and
>> nights a week, so you can get through in checksheet time.
>> Theory and practical are separate spaces, both in the academy and Div
>> 6, and both have separate spaces for students to audit in.
>>
>> 4. We deliver the Key To Life and the Life Orientation course, and
>> any auditing set ups needed for these course; or reviews sometimes
>> needed while on these courses.
>> These courses are delivered 7 days and nights a week, so you can get
>> through in checksheet time. They are also in a space separate from
>> the rest of the academy.
>> It is usual that a full time pc will get 30-50 hrs or more a week,
>> depending on how much auditing they can take. We mostly put only 1 or
>> 2 pc=B9s on an auditors lineup at any time. If a pc can run 8-9 hrs a
>> day we will work it out for them to be the only pc on the auditors
>> lineup, so they get to Clear even faster. Auditing is delivered every
>> day from 9.30am to 9.30pm. e.g. one pc recently received 150hrs in 3
>> 1/2 weeks.
>>
>> 6. We deliver the complete Grade Chart up to Clear. We will be
>> delivering the CCRD and Expanded Dianetics very soon. We deliver any
>> of the Grad V type actions such as the Int R/D, PTS R/D, PDH Sec
>> Check, HC Pluspoint Outpoint List, and the famous FPRD. We also
>> deliver to Clears if they need unstalling.
>>
>> 7. We have a Purification Rundown that runs 7 days and nights a week
>> in its own section in the org. The Purification area has 2 saunas
>> able to comfortably hold 16 people at any given time, plus a fully
>> self contained eating area with kitchen facilities, where a person
>> can eat while on the purif without having to worry about going out to
>> get food. Also great restaurant downstairs if desired. There are 4
>> private showers and 4 private bathrooms with space for changing, plus
>> 2 professional running machines and private lockers. And, all this in
>> a private enclosed area just for the people on the purif.
>>
>> 8. Division 6 has it own area of the org, right on street level,
>> completely separate from the rest of the org. As part of this area
>> there is a newly renovated permanent event space that can hold 100
>> people comfortably. Plus, there is a second permanent event space on
>> the 3rd floor that will hold 80 people comfortably that is also newly
>> renovated.
>>
>> 9. The org itself has a total of 48,000 square feet, including the
>> basement. Free high speed internet and computer with printer access
>> in the HGC waiting area for public use is also available, should one
>> need it.
>>
>> 10. We rent one of the street level spaces of our building to a
>> reasonably priced Middle Eastern food restaurant, that has great food
>> for getting sessionable and studentable.
>>
>> 11. The ED of the org is a 32 year Sea Org Officer, who is a Class
>> VIII Case Supervisor, trained by Ron, plus, is OEC/FEBC trained. She
>> has 22 years experience in the Class V sector.
>>
>> 12. We are rapidly expanding to our St Hill size target of July 15
>> this year.
>>
>> Facts about the surrounding area
>> Accommodations:
>>
>> Extended Stay Hotel - (recommended) a 3 minute drive from the org, or
>> a pleasant 20 minute walk across the river. This is a very upstat
>> hotel, and each room has a fully equipped kitchenette in it, a queen
>> size bed, and a business set up with a desk and internet hook up. It
>> is located in historic Covington Kentucky, alongside the majestic
>> Ohio River, which denotes the border between Cincinnati, Ohio and
>> Kentucky. Cost is $259 a week or $55 per night. Phone number is 859
>> 581 3000.
>>
>> Ramda Inn - 859 331 1400 - $65 per night. For an extra $15 a night
>> you can have a pet in the room with you.
>>
>> Cross Country Inn - about a 7 minute drive from the org, a little
>> further past the Days Inn and Extended Stay, right off the main
>> freeway, I75. $55 per night or $208 per week. No kitchenette or
>> fridge in the rooms. Phone number is 859 341 2090.
>>
>> Millennium Hotel - just around the corner from the org in downtown
>> Cincinnati is $150 a night, but I know that people have gotten rooms
>> there for $80 a night on priceline.com, which I am sure can also be
>> used for the other hotels. Phone number is 513 352 2100.
>>
>> The other hotels in the downtown area are the Cincinnatian and the
>> Hilton, which I suggest you buy through the internet sites such as
>> priceline.com or the hotel discount website -
>> http://www.180096hotel.com/cgibin/pickinput?SID=3DWSR&LKF=3DWSR&Dest=3D=
BOS
>> Standard AAA discounts apply in most places.
>>
>> Food:
>>
>> Jordan Valley Restaurant- on street level in the org (we rent to
>> them) - this restaurant has really good food that ranges from
>> $4.00-7.00. The food is freshly made and includes hummus, falafel,
>> tabouli, shawerma and other such middle eastern delicacies (very high
>> in protein and great for session endurance) plus American food such
>> as hamburgers and fries.
>>
>> Corner Deli - 50 yards from the org is a very upscale but reasonably
>> priced New York style deli with full home cooked meals, chilli and
>> soups, plus all sorts of salads and other deli type items; and you
>> can sit down and eat your food, if you wish.
>>
>> Indian restaurant - a very scrumptious all-you-can-eat Indian food
>> buffet, just a 10 minute walk from the org in the heart of downtown
>> Cincinnati. Cost is $7.95 including tax.
>>
>> Thai restaurant - just 2 blocks further past the Indian restaurant is
>> another all-you-can-eat buffet, which has an assortment of fresh
>> tasty Thai food. Cost is $7.00 including tax.
>>
>> The food court - about a 150 yard walk from the org, on the same
>> street, is the city mall, which has a large food court inside, where
>> you can sit down to eat, and comprises Italian, Chinese, Japanese,
>> Mexican and American food that is tasty, wholesome and inexpensive.
>> It has 3 floors that include all sorts of shopping as well.
>>
>> Chinese restaurant - just around the corner from the org is a
>> licensed Chinese restaurant that also has =B3to go.=B2 Cost averages
>> $7-12.00.
>>
>> Starbucks - there is a Starbucks 200 yards from the org for those
>> coffee lovers who prefer Starbucks. There are other coffee shops
>> close by also.
>>
>> We also have high protein/low carbohydrate bars, fruit juices and
>> other non sugar type snacks in vending machines inside the org, plus
>> a gourmet coffee machine right outside the HGC waiting area.
>> Free high speed internet access/e-mail, and a computer with a CD ROM
>> drive, is there for all public to use, located in the HGC waiting
>> area. Or listen to Ron=B9s lectures that play in the pc lounge.
>>
>> Airport Data:
>>
>> The Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky airport is situated in a semi rural
>> setting in Northern Kentucky, just 20 minutes from the org. A shuttle
>> can be gotten which will take you downtown Cincinnati, Cost is $14
>> one way and $24 round-trip.
>> There are farms (the famous rolling hills of Kentucky) 10 minutes
>> from the airport that span, from right along the Ohio river, to near
>> the airport. The Ohio River starts in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and
>> meets the Mississippi River at the Illinois border, which continues
>> to flows right into the Gulf of Mexico. You could boat all the way if
>> you wished. I look forward to helping you and your friends achieve
>> Clear and Grad V trained auditors speedily.
>> I always personally make sure people get what they came here for.
>> After all, I am not here for any other reason than to ensure wins.
>>
>> NEW PERSON INTRODUCTORY PACKAGE
>>
>> Basic Dianetics Books and Materials
>>
>> The Basics of Dianetics Picture book
>> Dianetics,The Modern Science of Mental Health
>> Dianetics- An Education in yourself tape
>> Dianetics - The Evolution of a Science
>> Dianetics Lectures & Demonstrations tapes
>> The Dianetics Self-Improvement Package
>> The Dynamics of Life
>> How to Use Dianetics Video
>> Self Analysis
>>
>> Basic Scientology Books and Materials
>>
>> The Basic Scientology Picture Book
>> Clear Body, Clear Mind
>> The Problems of Work
>> The Five Conditions of Existence Lecture
>> Purification- An Illustrated Answer to Drugs
>> Scientology- The Fundamentals of Thought
>> Scientology Handbook
>> Scientology- A New Slant on Life
>> Scientology-0-8: The Book of Basics
>> The Way to Happiness (Bundle of 12 Booklets)
>> What is Scientology
>> An Introduction to Scientology Video
>> Clearing Congress Lectures (set of 6 videos)
>>
>> 25 Hours of Life Repair Auditing
>> Two Life Improvement Courses to help handle your
>> ruin
>> Dianetics Seminar Course
>>
>> TO BE ELIGIBLE THE PERSON MUST ARRIVE 10 2222.76 (Out of state
>> residents)
>> CONSECUTIVE DAYS SO THEY GET THE MOST
>> FROM THIS PROGRAM 2273.00 (Ohio Residents)
>> These price includes a free 6 month IAS Membership offered to all new
>> people,(which they must fill out an application for), and, which
>> gives a 10% discount on all services and materials.
>>
>> Sliding Scale donations for auditing
>>
>> Lifetime member=3D20% discount Annual member =3D 10% Discount
>>
>>
>> 1 int - Lifetime member-3200 - Annual member-3600
>>
>> 2 int - Lifetime member-6400 - Annual member-7200
>>
>> 3 int - Lifetime member-9600 - Annual member-10,800
>>
>> 4 int - 12,000 - 3000 each
>>
>> 5 int - 15,000 - 3000 each
>>
>> 6 int - 16,800 - 2800 each
>>
>> 7 int - 19,600 - 2800 each
>>
>> 8 int - 20,800 - 2600 each
>>
>> 9 int - 23,400 - 2600 each
>>
>> 10 int - 24,000- 2400 each
>>
>> 11 int - 26,400- 2400 each
>>
>> 12 int - 26,400- 2200 each
>>
>> Any additional intensives above 12 if donated for at the same time
>> are $2200 each.
>>
>> Training Prices - scholarships and training packages are available to
>> qualified applicants. The following prices are listed at full rate
>> Full Rate
>> Student Hat course 750
>> Student Hat lectures 350
>> Course pack 125
>> Method 1 co-audit course 750
>> E-meter books pkge 180
>> Quantum E-Meter 4650
>> Course pack 125
>> Professional TR=B9s course 2325
>> Dns 55 37.50
>> Pro Trs lectures 200
>> Clay Table Picture book 125
>> Course pack 125
>> Professional Upper Indocs course 575
>> Freedom Congress lectures 475
>> Course pack 125
>> Pro Metering course 2700
>> E-Meter books pkge 180
>> Course pack 125
>> Academy level 0 course 2700
>> 0 lectures 200
>> Dns55 37.50
>> Self Analysis 35.00
>> Course pack 125
>> Academy level 1 course 2700
>> 1 lectures 300
>> Problems of work 30
>> Course pack 125
>> Academy level 2 course 2700
>> 2 lectures 450
>> Fundamentals of thought 30
>> Course pack 125
>> Academy level 3 course 2700
>> 3 lectures 200
>> 0-8 Book of Basics 32.50
>> Course pack 125
>> Academy level 4 course 2700
>> 4 lectures 200
>> Advanced Procedures & Axioms 35
>> Handbook for Preclears 43.75
>> NED course 4000
>> DMSMH 35
>> NED lectures 142.50
>> Course pack 125
>> Grad 5 course 4000
>> Grad 5 lectures 245
>> Science of Survival 50
>> Book of Case Remedies 35
>> Trouble Shooter 500
>> Course packs (2) 250
>> Solo 1 course 3800
>> DMSMH 35
>> Dns 55 37.50
>> FOT 30
>> POW 30
>> SA 35
>> 0-8 32.50
>> 8-8008 35
>> E-Meter books pkge 180
>> Quantum E-Meter 4650
>> Course pack 125
>> Class 4 internship 1325
>> NED internship 1325
>> Grad 5 internship 1325
>> Class 4 C/S course 2000
>> Course pack 125
>> Class 4 C/S course internship 1325
>> NED C/S course 1000
>> Course pack 125
>> NED C/S course internship 1325
>> Grad 5 C/S course 1000
>> Course pack (2) 250
>> Grad 5 C/S course internship 1325
>> HRD course 750
>> Way to Happiness hardback 40
>> Course pack 125
>> HSSC course 2000
>> HSSC lectures 450
>> Course pack 125
>> HSSC internship 1325
>> FPRD course 2000
>> FPRD lectures 156.25
>> Course pack 125
>> FPRD internship 1325
>> FPRD C/S course 1000
>> Course pack 125
>> FPRD C/S internship 1325
>> Pro Wordclearer course 2000
>> Course pack 100
>> Ministers course 500
>> Course pack 40
>> Purif I/C course 750
>> Course pack 125
>> Purif C/S course 750
>> Course pack 125
>> Purif C/S course internship 1325
>> Student Booster R/D course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> Introspection R/D course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> Vital Information R/D course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> PDH Detection & Handling course 750
>> Course pack 125
>> Fear of People R/D course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> Scientology DRD course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> Scn Marriage Counseling course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> Allergy/Asthma R/D course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> EST Repair R/D course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> Psych Repair R/D course 375
>> Course pack 125
>> PTS/SP Specialist course 1500
>> PTS/SP lectures 120
>> Course pack 48
>> PTS/SP course 1250
>> Course pack 125
>> Basic Dict of Dns and Scn 8.75
>> Can we ever be friends CD 18.75
>> Problems of Work 30
>> Science of Survival 50
>> PTS/SP lectures 156.25
>> Scn Handbook Desc of Scn religion 10
>> Ron Mag - A profile 20
>> What is Scn 112.50
>> Ethics Specialist course 2400
>> Advanced Procedures and Axioms 35
>> Intro to Scn Ethics & 5 conds tape 55
>> Scn 0-8 32.50
>> State of Man lectures 345
>> Way to Happiness hardback 40
>> Scn Handbook 125
>> Course packs - 2 volumes 150
>> KSW course 650
>> Course pack 23.75
>> KTL 5250
>> Books 1250
>> LOC 2000
>> Books 625
>> KTL/LOC package 5000
>> Books package 1406.75
>>
>> DIV 6
>>
>> Basic Study Manual course 200
>> BSM manual 43.75
>> Workbook 15
>> Special Course in Human Evaluation 240
>> HEV lectures 325
>> Course pack 43.75
>> HQS 350
>> EOS 32.50
>> FOT 30
>> My Philosophy cassette 8
>> NSOL 29
>> POW 30
>> SA 32.50
>> 0-8 32.50
>> Course pack 55
>> STCC 120
>> Course pack 35
>> Life Improvement Courses 60
>> Course pack 22.50
>>
>>
>>
>> What happens when you send someone for services in Cincinnati Org
>>
>> An already existing preclear or student wants to get sorted out, or
>> you know needs to get recovered and handled:
>> 1. They get immediate FREE ARCX auditing at Cincinnati Org expense,
>> no matter where they came from (no waiting either), to determine
>> exactly what charge is holding them back from moving on the Bridge.
>> If
>> someone is not moving on the Bridge, there is always some technical
>> point that is out, which has their attention, and when spotted by
>> them, rehabilitates the original purpose of going free. And like
>> magic, they then want to move on their auditing, up the Bridge again,
>> just like they originally did.
>> Money problems, time problems, vanish into thin air, because they are
>> only =B3smoke screens=B2 covering up the real beingness of the person.
>> 2. Now they are satisfied they got the right charge, and they are
>> given a technical estimate of what it will take to get them to Clear,
>> plus the training they need, including through the level of Class 5
>> Graduate.
>> 3. They are interviewed and programmed standardly to now get them up
>> the Bridge.
>> 4. They are scheduled out intensively for their whole technical
>> estimate, so they
>> know exactly who their auditor will be, and what days they are going
>> in session, and for how many weeks they will need to come for
>> auditing, so they can rearrange their life to get Clear, quickly.
>> 5. And the same for someone on their training.
>>
>> A new person to Scientology
>> 1. They do their personality test.
>> 2. They have their real ruin found; the one thing that if handled
>> will turn their whole life around the way they want it.
>> 3. They then get an interview on the meter and are asked questions
>> that encourage them to really communicate anything and everything
>> that they have emotional charge on, or areas they would like to
>> improve, until they feel completely satisfied they have said all, and
>> haven=B9t withheld anything they know should be addressed.
>> 4. All charged areas are then noted, and programmed in order of
>> largest read first, and so on. Should there be any PTS=B9ness, then of
>> course that is handled early on, so they will make stable gains.
>> 5. They do their auditing program intensively over a period of a few
>> days, and also do a course(s) that will help them personally, so
>> when they are not in session their auditing is enhanced with
>> understanding of the tech.
>>
>> Brand new person wants to see what auditing is like:
>> They get a free Book I session from our Public Servicing Secretary,
>> Dr Christine Kasle - 513 562 3210.
>>
>> Someone comes in and wants to find out about it all:
>> 1. They do a personality test and using the results help them spot
>> exactly what it is they need assistance with, by helping them find
>> their own personal ruin, the main thing that if handled would turn
>> their whole life around.
>> This is done because otherwise you miss the real reason they are
>> here. At this point they are sold a book to read or routed to the
>> courseroom with a course to do, or to the Public Servicing Secretary,
>> Dr. Christine Kasle, who gives them a free Book 1 session, and then
>> to the courseroom, or if appropriate, they sign up for Professional
>> Book 1 auditing.
>> If they aren't ready to sign up for a course or auditing, then we
>> sell them a book that will match their interest. Books are sold to
>> everyone whatever they are doing, as this is the lifeblood of what we
>> are doing.
>>
>> 2. If they signed up for a course then the Basic Courses Supervisor
>> is informed of their ruin, and that supervisor also ensures they
>> understand the course they are about to do is what will help them
>> with that ruin.
>>
>> 3. They are then gotten on to a standard course schedule wherever
>> possible, and they begin their course.
>>
>> 4. They are watched closely throughout their course and in addition
>> to standard supervision, they are consulted during their course to
>> ensure they feel their ruin is improving as a result of the course.
>> If not, then a handling is done to ensure they do feel that
>> improvement.
>>
>> 5. Before they finish the course, they have already worked out with
>> the supervisor what is their next course or, auditing if real now, so
>> they have a direction on where to go next, concerning the further
>> handling of their ruin.
>> Once they have handled their ruin, we find the next ruin, until they
>> reach a point where they know this technology works for them, and
>> then they are routed to the
>> the Registrar David Sonenfild for major services such as the Purif,
>> Grade Chart auditing and Academy training and on up the Grade Chart
>> to Clear, Grad 5 and beyond to the Advanced levels.
>>
>>
>> Staff that will be handling your selectees other than auditors and
>> supervisors, and, their respective qualifications and direct phone
>> numbers:
>>
>> You can E-MAIL any staff member at cofscin...@fuse.net and note
>> the staff member=B9s name in the subject field of your e-mail so they
>> get it.
>>
>> Jeanie Sonenfild - 513 562 2169 - Commanding Officer - Class 8 C/S
>> and worked as a C/S under Ron for 2 years on the ship, FEBC graduate
>> and trained Evaluator, on OT7, and 32 years staff experience
>> Denis Luzan - 513 354 8539 - Deputy ED for Delivery and Exchange -
>> trained auditor and 6 years staff experience
>> Amanda Overby - 513 562 2177 - PES and FSM I/C HFA - Golden Age of
>> Tech Organization Executive Course graduate
>> Jeremy Kasle - 513 562 2164 - Org Executive Secretary - Golden Age of
>> Tech Organization Executive Course graduate
>> Dr. Christine Kasle - 513 562 3210 - Public Servicing Secretary -OT4
>> and completed L10, L11 and L12 Rundowns plus is a trained auditor
>> David Sonenfild - 513 562 2166 - Chief Registrar - Class 5 auditor,
>> KTL/LOC, OT5, and 23 years staff experience
>> Kathy Chase - 513 562 2165 - Assistant Registrar- 10 years staff
>> experience and a trained auditor
>> Adam Mingery - 513 562 3210 - Basic Courses Sup - 4 years staff
>> experience - Flag trained KTL/LOC, Elementary Data Series Evaluator,
>> trained auditor and a Purif I/C
>> Peg Bolduc - 513 562 2179 - D of P - RTC pass on her TR=B9s, Purif C/S=
,
>> trained auditor plus 7 years staff experience
>> Zhanna Luzan - 513 354 2539 - DTS and Folder Admin HFA - 5 years
>> staff experience.
None
I hope you a.r.s. people find this interesting.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Fact Man:
I found it very interesting and full of facts as well.
Why are you so heavily promoting the Cincinnati Church of Scientology? Did
someone there ask you to?
None
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"None" <mis...@withold.com> wrote in message
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> The Fact Man wrote:
>
> I hope you a.r.s. people find this interesting.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Dear Fact Man:
>
> I found it very interesting and full of facts as well.
>
kinda like your facts??? Aint NONE
>
Why are you so heavily promoting the Cincinnati Church of Scientology?
Because he's in a contest to win a free trip to Hemet.....?
Did
> someone there ask you to?
>
> None
>
> Most likley the same person who asked you to look like an idiot with your
posts of psuedo facts and claims based on nothing except your dead leaders
drug addicted warped mind...Have a nice day....
None
Most likley the same person who asked you to look like an idiot with your
posts of psuedo facts and claims based on nothing except your dead leaders
drug addicted warped mind
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear tannman1:
Who do you consider that to be?
None
Magoo
Basically, in the latter part of the 1990's the Commanding Officer of LA
ORG, Jeannie Bovad then had a few things happen:
1. Her husband, Yentz, died unrepentantly at a rather young age.
2. She married David Sonenfild, who used to work at AOLA
as a reg.
3. She got pregnant, and was routed out of the Sea org, due to being
pregnant, and sent to run the Cincinnati org with David.
She is an real go-getter, so I'm not surprised that they have so many
auditors, etc. She hired me and my friend, Ann, in the 1990's (Pre marrying
David) promising us $500.00/week.
When we got our checks for $45/wk, the shit hit the fan.
I was on OT 7 at the time, went for my 6-month check, and told Flag I could
not possibly stay on staff at those rates, and pay for OT 7! I was ordered
to "Ethics" and assigned Treason. I worked up to the condition of
Liability, where one has to "Make up the damage". Since this had to do with
LA org in Los Angeles, I wanted to go there and do it. Flag refused, due to
me being an OT 7, I was not allowed to leave the Flag Land base with the OT
materials, while in this lower condition.
I was also having to pay their exorbitant hotel rates and food prices daily,
while doing this, and wasn't allowed to move off the base.
Finally I found their Senior C/S who was training on the Sec Check Course,
and since I had already done it, I agreed to help drill with her, and get
her through her check sheet. Once you're done "Making up the damage" ...one
then has to get "The majority of signatures from the people in the group".
Ok, so I had to get the staff at LA org to sign my Liability Contract.
What a nightmare!
I faxed it to a friend who agreed to go over and get the signatures. At
lunch I called, hoping to hear it was either done, or nearly done. My friend
told me, "No.....no one would sign it as Jeannie (The CO) said you have to
pay for these pins for all the staff. (That is super BS, but hey....when
they've got you trapped, there's not a lot you can do, especially in
Liability, where you're not even part of the group!)
I asked my FSM, Pat Mooney, to put it on a credit card and I'd pay her back.
She said fine. Dinner came, and I called my friend, again. What happened?
Nope...the money wouldn't go through.
DAMN! Now I was freaking out, as I had plane tickets for one day later so
this HAD to move along!
I was feeling totally overwhelmed, and finally started crying feeling
totally hopeless. I didn't have the money for these stupid pins as I'd spent
all the extra money I had staying at Flag. You can laugh at me, but things
like this are really disgusting, and since you're in what they see as a
"lower condition" (Even though ~that~ was bogus too)...you have basically no
say, and no one to stick up for you. To someone outside this group I'm sure
the obvious is "Why didn't you just say no?" Well, it's all a part of Mind
control.
When the group treats you like a horrible person, it's natural to want to
'handle it" and get back in good graces. Hard to explain, but I know it's
true, from seeing many people do it.
Finally a friend, Alister, saw me and offered to put the money on HIS credit
card. We did...and finally then the people were able to sign the Condition,
saying it was OK for me to re-join their group.
(What horseshit! and I thought so then, too. Now I'm just thrilled to be
done with such nonsense).
I waited all night, and finally at around 12 p.m. at the Sandcastle the Fax
machine started. We knew it was my thing, so my friend leaped over the desk
and got it.
Needless to say, my "Affinity" for Jeannie Bogvad/Sonenfild
decreased DRAMATICALLY during that totally bogus cycle.
Manipulation within Scientology can get huge, and if you're in what they
call a "Lower condition", basically---whether true or not----
you're screwed!
GOD I'm thrilled to be away from that *Crap*!!!
Love to all :) Lurkers.......I'm smiling, knowing you are reading this.
Good for you!!
Tory/Magoo~~dancing in the moonlight~
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Magoo
Unexpectantly (re her husband, Yentz) to
unrepentantly. I meant he died unexpectantly.
T
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None
I had to get the staff at LA org to sign my Liability Contract.
What a nightmare!
no one would sign it
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Magoo:
This sure sounds reminiscent of the Cincinnati Church of Scientology to me
OK!
This is how life went for you in Scientology?
Were you ever happy there?
None
Magoo
> Magoo wrote:
>
> I had to get the staff at LA org to sign my Liability Contract.
>
> What a nightmare!
>
> no one would sign it
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Dear Magoo:
>
> This sure sounds reminiscent of the Cincinnati Church of Scientology to me
> OK!
>
> This is how life went for you in Scientology?
known as the "Church" <Spit> of Scientology. Lots of good times,
Lots of *Crappy* times. I'd say on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the
best)....this incident was about a 2.
For more stories, see
http://www.torymagoo.org
and
http://www.xenu.net
and
http://www.xenutv.com
>
> Were you ever happy there?
Sure.
Tory/Magoo!>
> None
>
>
Ed
Magoo wrote:
>
> Here's a little more info on the Cincinnati org:
> Basically, in the latter part of the 1990's the Commanding Officer of LA
> ORG, Jeannie Bovad then had a few things happen:
> 1. Her husband, Yentz, died unrepentantly at a rather young age.
> 2. She married David Sonenfild, who used to work at AOLA
> as a reg.
> 3. She got pregnant, and was routed out of the Sea org, due to being
> pregnant, and sent to run the Cincinnati org with David.
>
[rest of long interesting story and original Cincinnati post
snipped]
I have two questions here.... first, I've always wondered who
Jeannie Bogvad is, what nationality and what was her name before she
married Jens Bogvad. Jens Bogvad was pretty famous for his part in
building up Munich org to be the biggest by far in Europe in the
1970s, and that influenced a lot of growth in the German parts of
Switzerland and also Austria; and these places had strong currency and
affluent people who poured a ton of their energy into Scn.
Second... this Cincinnati Org post is pretty interesting. It looks to
me like they are openly promoting into other orgs' territories and
they are going to get shot down eventually for that. They must be
doing pretty well for a lower org, and at the expense of the other
orgs around them whose pcs they are luring away. Throughout Scn
history, any time some org or mission has been successful they have
been shot down for policy and/or tech squirreling because the SO
"management" can't have themselves being embarrassed by someone else
doing it better.
Ed
Ralph Hilton
<3F2BC5E5...@aol.com>, :
>
>
>Magoo wrote:
>>
>> Here's a little more info on the Cincinnati org:
>> Basically, in the latter part of the 1990's the Commanding Officer of LA
>> ORG, Jeannie Bovad then had a few things happen:
>> 1. Her husband, Yentz, died unrepentantly at a rather young age.
>> 2. She married David Sonenfild, who used to work at AOLA
>> as a reg.
>> 3. She got pregnant, and was routed out of the Sea org, due to being
>> pregnant, and sent to run the Cincinnati org with David.
> I have two questions here.... first, I've always wondered who
>Jeannie Bogvad is, what nationality and what was her name before she
>married Jens Bogvad. Jens Bogvad was pretty famous for his part in
>building up Munich org to be the biggest by far in Europe in the
>1970s, and that influenced a lot of growth in the German parts of
>Switzerland and also Austria; and these places had strong currency and
>affluent people who poured a ton of their energy into Scn.
Jeannie was married to Bill Franks, ED International for a while. He had
previously been CO ITO and prior to that was CO of FCDC for quite a time
with Jeannie as the Qual Sec both times..
>Second... this Cincinnati Org post is pretty interesting. It looks to
>me like they are openly promoting into other orgs' territories and
>they are going to get shot down eventually for that. They must be
>doing pretty well for a lower org, and at the expense of the other
>orgs around them whose pcs they are luring away. Throughout Scn
>history, any time some org or mission has been successful they have
>been shot down for policy and/or tech squirreling because the SO
>"management" can't have themselves being embarrassed by someone else
>doing it better.
The figures given are quite astounding for Cincinnati. Cincinnati Org would
be directly run from Int management so they'd be happy it was doing well.
They have to pay high percentages to management so it isn't the same
situation as if a "lower" org or msn were taking public from an org that
pays Int mngt. more.
If people want to travel to another org for what they perceive as better
service then between orgs wouldn't cause objections.
Most orgs have far fewer auditors and having someone of Jeannie's calibre as
a CO is extremely rare.
--
Ralph Hilton
http://www.ralphhilton.org
Freezone Directory: http://www.freescientology.org
Freezone International: http://www.fzint.net
FZAOINT http://www.fzaoint.org
C-Meter: http://www.cmeter.org
Cerridwen
news:3F2BC5E5...@aol.com...
>
> I have two questions here.... first, I've always wondered who
> Jeannie Bogvad is, what nationality and what was her name before she
> married Jens Bogvad. Jens Bogvad was pretty famous for his part in
> building up Munich org to be the biggest by far in Europe in the
> 1970s, and that influenced a lot of growth in the German parts of
> Switzerland and also Austria; and these places had strong currency
and
> affluent people who poured a ton of their energy into Scn.
Jeannie was married to Bill Franks, formerly the ED INT, prior to
marrying Jens.
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/aff_bf850403.htm
I don't remember her maiden name.
She was on the Apollo training to be an auditor. Possibily Monica
or Ralph would know.
>
> Second... this Cincinnati Org post is pretty interesting. It looks to
> me like they are openly promoting into other orgs' territories and
> they are going to get shot down eventually for that. They must be
> doing pretty well for a lower org, and at the expense of the other
> orgs around them whose pcs they are luring away. Throughout Scn
> history, any time some org or mission has been successful they have
> been shot down for policy and/or tech squirreling because the SO
> "management" can't have themselves being embarrassed by someone else
> doing it better.
Orgs have been ripping off each others "public" for as long as I can
remember. I don't think Scn management has a problem with it at all.
As long as the org doing the ripping off has upstats, no one at
management level really cares.
Cerridwen
"Critical thinking demands we question the unproven, not that we
meekly accept it." Diane Richardson
For News on Scientology go to: http://www.scientologywatch.org
For Stats on Scientology go to:
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats.htm
>
> Ed
Ed
Ralph Hilton wrote:
>
> Ed <met...@aol.com> wrote on Sat, 02 Aug 2003 10:08:37 -0400 in msg
> <3F2BC5E5...@aol.com>, :
>
> >
> >
> >Magoo wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's a little more info on the Cincinnati org:
> >> Basically, in the latter part of the 1990's the Commanding Officer of LA
> >> ORG, Jeannie Bovad then had a few things happen:
> >> 1. Her husband, Yentz, died unrepentantly at a rather young age.
> >> 2. She married David Sonenfild, who used to work at AOLA
> >> as a reg.
> >> 3. She got pregnant, and was routed out of the Sea org, due to being
> >> pregnant, and sent to run the Cincinnati org with David.
>
> > I have two questions here.... first, I've always wondered who
> >Jeannie Bogvad is, what nationality and what was her name before she
> >married Jens Bogvad. Jens Bogvad was pretty famous for his part in
> >building up Munich org to be the biggest by far in Europe in the
> >1970s, and that influenced a lot of growth in the German parts of
> >Switzerland and also Austria; and these places had strong currency and
> >affluent people who poured a ton of their energy into Scn.
>
> Jeannie was married to Bill Franks, ED International for a while. He had
> previously been CO ITO and prior to that was CO of FCDC for quite a time
> with Jeannie as the Qual Sec both times..
>
Any idea what her name was before Jeannie Franks?
> >Second... this Cincinnati Org post is pretty interesting. It looks to
> >me like they are openly promoting into other orgs' territories and
> >they are going to get shot down eventually for that. They must be
> >doing pretty well for a lower org, and at the expense of the other
> >orgs around them whose pcs they are luring away. Throughout Scn
> >history, any time some org or mission has been successful they have
> >been shot down for policy and/or tech squirreling because the SO
> >"management" can't have themselves being embarrassed by someone else
> >doing it better.
>
> The figures given are quite astounding for Cincinnati. Cincinnati Org would
> be directly run from Int management so they'd be happy it was doing well.
> They have to pay high percentages to management so it isn't the same
> situation as if a "lower" org or msn were taking public from an org that
> pays Int mngt. more.
>
If it is directly run from Int Mgmt, does that mean it is
separate from the FOLO management that other orgs are subject to? If
they have a separate management line, how come?
Ed
Ralph Hilton
<3F2BE913...@aol.com>, :
>> The figures given are quite astounding for Cincinnati. Cincinnati Org would
>> be directly run from Int management so they'd be happy it was doing well.
>> They have to pay high percentages to management so it isn't the same
>> situation as if a "lower" org or msn were taking public from an org that
>> pays Int mngt. more.
>>
> If it is directly run from Int Mgmt, does that mean it is
>separate from the FOLO management that other orgs are subject to? If
>they have a separate management line, how come?
Int mngt. runs the orgs directly. The FOLO line or whatever they call it now
is more a channel for relaying orders and programs and having a local office
to more directly direct compliance with the orders from IMO.
None
This is ~a~ story from my 30 Y E A R S in the group
For more stories, see
http://www.torymagoo.org
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenutv.com
None
Deomorto
> Sorry, spellcheck screwed up and changed
> Unexpectantly (re her husband, Yentz) to
> unrepentantly. I meant he died unexpectantly.
> T
> "Magoo" <mag...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:mwJWa.81033$3o3.5...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Here's a little more info on the Cincinnati org:
> > Basically, in the latter part of the 1990's the Commanding Officer of LA
> > ORG, Jeannie Bovad then had a few things happen:
> > 1. Her husband, Yentz, died unrepentantly at a rather young age.
> > 2. She married David Sonenfild, who used to work at AOLA
> > as a reg.
Hi Tory,
Just a quick correction - the surname is Bogvad and her husband's name
was Jens (both your spellings were phonetically correct that is,
indeed, how they are pronounced)
And just for laughs I herewith put on my prognosticator "hat" and make
the following predictions
1) Jeannie will be comm eved and removed from post sometime in the
next two years.
2) Cincinatti Org will be the focus of newspaper articles arising from
dissatisfaction from cutomers.
3) An investigation will "reveal" that there have been numerous
examples of non-standard 'tech' and 'financial irregularities'.
4) There will be an increase in the number of critics who come from
Cincinatti.
Now - to explain!
Scientology screws people up - not everybody there are a few who will
ascribe some sort of benefit from it - it does it inevitably and not
as a result of anything other than it being delivered.
People like Bogvad use enormously high-pressure tactics on people so
we can know that right now people are being pushed and encouraged to
over extend themselves and having been successfully regged into
overextending themselves they will continue to be regged. All the time
waiting for the great "pay off" the time when all these abilities will
suddenly result in them becoming enormously wealthy and so forth. When
it doesn't happen because there are no results the problems begin.
The staff who are currently at Flag for training, and those that have
recently returned will find their financial resources dwindling (it
always happens) bills will pile up and as the problems start to hit
the org so will the ethics missions which will demand more and more
'extra time' for call in, for events, for 'briefings'. The 'handlings'
will increase and nothing will resolve it.
And for the next ten years every eval done on Cinci org will refer to
this 'boom" that was destroyed.
pts2
> I hope you a.r.s. people find this interesting.
>
>
>
> >> Just in case you have need of our services for someone while I am
> >> away I have included:
> >>
> >> - A description of the org and the surrounding geographical area plus
> >> websites to visit.
> >> - Names and training level of all technical staff including Qual and
> >> Purif staff.
> >> - Names and direct telephone numbers of key staff and their posts,
> >> plus training and staff experience.
> >> - How to get someone a free session who needs one.
> >> - How to get a new person started and who will be helping them plus
> >> their direct phone number.
> >> - A list of all the preclears we have sent for the CCRD and OT levels
> >> - almost 70.
> >> - Cost of auditing and auditing packages plus our special
> >> Introductory Auditing Package.
> >> - A list of hotels and restaurants in the area.
> >>
> >> Hope this will be of some use to you. Please file it also so you have
> >> it for a later date should you need our services.
> >>
> >> ML
> >> David
The Cinci Org is where the cult awarded me my CLEAR cert. and # in
1984.
>
>
> >> Facts about Cincinnati Org
> >>
> >> We Clear people as fast as, they buy their auditing, and stay in
> >> session to receive it. To do that we ensure the following:
> >>
> >> 1. Our auditors ( Golden Age of Tech trained of course), usually have
> >> only one or two pc's on their lineups (99.9% of the time), so anyone
> >> you send here gets
> >> 25 - 50 hours, or more, per week. This is a constant you can count
> >> on, given that the pc can take this much auditing.
> >> 2. We are open 9am- 10pm 7 days a week, except Sunday night (which is
> >> one of the reasons we can promise this
> >> 3. 52 of our 78 staff currently, are FULL TIME staff (which is
> >> another reason we can promise this).
> >> 4. We have a full time Flag trained Golden Age of Tech Ethics Officer
> >>
> >> We are servicing public in the following states and their respective
> >> cities: Ohio - all over
> >> Kentucky - all over
In Western KY cult members go to the Nashville $cn Celeb Ctr. -- it's
about 2 hours closer than Cinci.
> >> Tennessee - Nashville and Memphis
> >> Indiana - all over
> >> Michigan - all over
> >> North Carolina - Charlotte
> >> South Carolina - Columbia
> >> Pennsylvania - all over
> >> New York - upstate mainly
> >> West Virginia - Huntington, Charleston and surrounding areas
> >> Georgia - Atlanta and surrounding areas
> >> Wisconsin - Green Bay, Milwaukee and surrounding areas
> >> Texas - Houston area
> >> Mississippi - Biloxi
> >> Louisiana - New Orleans, Lafayette, Baton Rouge
> >> Illinois - Champagne
> >>
> >>
> >> My name - David Sonenfild
> >> My Post - Senior Service Consultant
> >> My phone - 513 562 2166
> >> My cell - 513 200 2340
> >> My fax - 513 562 2168
> >> Org reception - 513 421 2927
> >> My e-mail address - cofscin...@earthlink.net
Earthlink?
Don't recognize any of these names indicative of high turnover.
Actually it's an hour and 10 min drive from Lexingto, KY if you're OT.
:)
They get scammed and bilked.
In the early 80s the Cinci Org was located uptown in a house on
Fraternity Row at the Univ. of Cinci. When there were loud beer
parties going on, the staffers used to moan "there just a bunch of
wogs and DBs."
In 1993 both my Lexington lawyer and myself received harassment and
threat letters post marked Cincinnati, OH
tp
Ralph Hilton
<cde9ed89.03080...@posting.google.com>, :
>And just for laughs I herewith put on my prognosticator "hat" and make
>the following predictions
>
>1) Jeannie will be comm eved and removed from post sometime in the
>next two years.
>2) Cincinatti Org will be the focus of newspaper articles arising from
>dissatisfaction from cutomers.
Jeannie knows her stuff. I would be very surprised if she fails.
>3) An investigation will "reveal" that there have been numerous
>examples of non-standard 'tech' and 'financial irregularities'.
>
>4) There will be an increase in the number of critics who come from
>Cincinatti.
ok. I suppose we have 2 years to wait and see.
Very few senior tech terminals left in the CofS can apply the tech properly.
Jeannie is one I think can do it.
>Now - to explain!
>
>Scientology screws people up - not everybody there are a few who will
>ascribe some sort of benefit from it - it does it inevitably and not
>as a result of anything other than it being delivered.
People screw people up.
They do it by dishonest application.
Some car dealers are honest. Some are not. Same goes in any profession.
Many Scientology auditors do care about improving the lives of the people
who pay them and do improve lives. Some do not.
I get people coming to me who have had heavy problems through incompetent
auditing.
Knowing that she is running the org I'd be inclined to send people over
there rather than to all but a few FZ auditors.
>People like Bogvad use enormously high-pressure tactics on people so
>we can know that right now people are being pushed and encouraged to
>over extend themselves and having been successfully regged into
>overextending themselves they will continue to be regged. All the time
>waiting for the great "pay off" the time when all these abilities will
>suddenly result in them becoming enormously wealthy and so forth. When
>it doesn't happen because there are no results the problems begin.
>
>The staff who are currently at Flag for training, and those that have
>recently returned will find their financial resources dwindling (it
>always happens) bills will pile up and as the problems start to hit
>the org so will the ethics missions which will demand more and more
>'extra time' for call in, for events, for 'briefings'. The 'handlings'
>will increase and nothing will resolve it.
>
>And for the next ten years every eval done on Cinci org will refer to
>this 'boom" that was destroyed.
I liked Jeannie even if she was a nasty bitch on occasion. I'm happy that
she is doing well and wish her all the best.
Magoo
"Deomorto" <deom...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:cde9ed89.03080...@posting.google.com...
> "Magoo" <mag...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> > Sorry, spellcheck screwed up and changed
> > Unexpectantly (re her husband, Yentz) to
> > unrepentantly. I meant he died unexpectantly.
> > T
> > "Magoo" <mag...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:mwJWa.81033$3o3.5...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > Here's a little more info on the Cincinnati org:
> > > Basically, in the latter part of the 1990's the Commanding Officer of
LA
> > > ORG, Jeannie Bovad then had a few things happen:
> > > 1. Her husband, Yentz, died unrepentantly at a rather young age.
> > > 2. She married David Sonenfild, who used to work at AOLA
> > > as a reg.
>
>
> Hi Tory,
>
> Just a quick correction - the surname is Bogvad and her husband's name
> was Jens (both your spellings were phonetically correct that is,
> indeed, how they are pronounced)
Hey thanks :)
Excellent Pre--Eval, and although time will tell for sure, if history is
any monitor of the future, you're right on the mark!
Thanks to you :)
Tory/Magoo!!
Murray Luther
slipped through the cracks. Should senior mgmt. get wind of this alleged
success, they'll manage somehow to screw it up for sure. Org prosperity is
indeed possible when management leaves them alone.