Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: kymus2...@aol.comnospam (Kymus)
Date: 18 Mar 2001 16:17:33 GMT
Local: Sun, Mar 18 2001 11:17 am
Subject: Re: $cientology's "RPF" Slave Labor Camps
>From: "Kevin Brady" rocks...@hotmail.com What you describe might be true of some people's RPF experience, and I have >Kymus- >please. The above working conditions you describe were SOUGHT OUT by the heard a few credible stories of people being actively physically detained in the RPF - Stacy Brooks for instance. I believe the bulk of RPF staff have remained due to moral constraints and not physical restraint. They are in the first place Sea Org members, a status they sought out with an understanding that it would become central to who they are and how they spend all their available time, indicating a preexisting high level of commitment to their faith and to enduring harsh conditions and meager rewards to promote it. They are in the second place able to avoid the RPF by leaving the Sea Org, and at least grudgingly acquiesce to RPF membership. You forget that few Scientology facilities are located outside urban areas, the RPF is working on grounds of major Sea Org facilities and can easily leave the grounds if that is what they choose, though they would face punitive treatment if they left and tried to come back. There appears to be some exception regarding the Gold base, though even there it is hardly a prison camp, just slightly more rural and subject to temptations to commit acts of detention or intimidation. >Surely you can see that this is a human rights violation? If not slavery, No, I don't see that. Staff membership in the Sea Organization is founded on >it is imprisonment and psychological torture, accompanied by total >disconnection from their families and friends. consensual relationships that terminate when the person wishing to terminate it decides. Consent eliminates violation. RPFers have family time like other staff, are not imprisoned, and are not >Almost enough to induce Why are you trying to argue to deprive some people's capacity to choose their >first circuit shock, sometimes actually passing that threshhold. Would you >condone this? religion and manner of affiliation with it based on a psychobabble accusation that lacks good evidence, being based on a biased take on a nonrepresentative sample of a subculture? That's a Scientology tactic to take an instance without questioning if it is representative and fashion a specious theory about it and call all that proof of something. Why are you coming up with your own variation on it? There are distinctly specific instances where RPF members have been abused. I Granted, I have never been on the RPF but I've known those who have and seen it = The a.r.s. prime directive: Make Jokes About Scientologist's Deaths= Example, regarding Attorney Moxon and his UNFORTUNATE loss: "Maybe he You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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