And more PR lies... Narconon in Sweden
Catarina Pamnell
(featuring the 1998 New Years event), and since reposts are popular
with our friend publicr...@scientology.org, I thought I'd remind
us all of some of the glaring lies published in this - an official
magazine published by the Church of Scientology International.
It says Narconon has 12 centers in Sweden, while
http://www.narconon.a.se lists 3 - Esloev, Huddinge and Knutby - and
two offices in Gothenburg and Vaesteraas which only do information and
are not rehab centers.
Where are the other 9 (or to be generous, 7)?
Who in Int PR office can't do primary school aritmetic?
Sweden is described as a country where every 9 minutes, someone dies
of a drug overdose. That makes 160 persons per day, 58 400 per year.
According to our National Statistics Office, Sweden had a population
of 8 844 499 in the year 1996. There were 94 133 deaths in total.
Did 58 400 persons out of 94 133 die from a drug overdose? Causes of
death are listed in the Yearbook of Health and Medical Care 1998,
http://www.sos.se/fulltext/9846-001/9846-001.htm
(figures from 1996)
illness in the circulatory system (heart, etc): 45 863
tumors: 21 482
respiratory illnesses: 7 838
injuries and poisoning: 4 203
There were 1 253 suicides (the majority in the 45-64 age group), and
410 cases where it could not be determined if death was suicide or an
accident.
Graphs at
http://www.sos.se/fulltext/9846-001/9846d17.htm
show the number of deaths (taking into account multiple causes of
death, that is also counting those who had other conditions
contributing to death ) related to drug addiction to be almost 5.5
persons per 100 000 inhabitants, which makes about 486 drug addiction
related deaths.
486 as opposed to the claimed 58 400.
(I won't even go into other lies or half truths in this article, or
how on the video tape from this event you falsely claimed that the
King and Queen of Sweden personally support Narconon, which caused a
big scandal here.)
The question is: what other lies did the CoS print in this 48-page
publication? How will CoS members know what information to trust, if
such obvious falsehoods can be so easily be pointed out in their own
magazine?
Catarina
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"Love the truth, forgive mistakes"
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ThomLove
Well done! Every time the CofS puts out some promo, they better learn
that it going to be gone over in very great detail with a 'truth'
filter.
thomlove
l.l.lipshitz
| Happened to be given a copy of International Scientology News, issue 6
| (featuring the 1998 New Years event), and since reposts are popular
| with our friend publicr...@scientology.org, I thought I'd remind
| us all of some of the glaring lies published in this - an official
| magazine published by the Church of Scientology International.
|
| It says Narconon has 12 centers in Sweden, while
| http://www.narconon.a.se lists 3 - Esloev, Huddinge and Knutby - and
| two offices in Gothenburg and Vaesteraas which only do information and
| are not rehab centers.
|
| Where are the other 9 (or to be generous, 7)?
|
| Who in Int PR office can't do primary school aritmetic?
well, you know how unwieldy mest arithmetic is.
hmm, this might be an interesting exercise.
how many lies can scn pack into a publication?
based upon statisical analysis of common co$
issues (freedom r^Hmag, source, impact, sock
puppet posts, etc), we could develop a 'cos'
(crock o' shit) index for measuirng the density
of their prevarication--sort of a tone scale for
lies. then we could issue appropriate alerts
based on this index, like whether simple overshoes
were sufficient or you really need hip-boots to
wade thru a particular piece of 'litterature'.
-elle
------------=[ l.l.lipshitz * elk...@min.net ]=------------
oh, i'll bet you don't know what the number 8 really is.
it's a bag of money sitting on a bag of money. -lrh
John Dorsay
> hmm, this might be an interesting exercise.
> how many lies can scn pack into a publication?
> based upon statisical analysis of common co$
> issues (freedom r^Hmag, source, impact, sock
> puppet posts, etc), we could develop a 'cos'
> (crock o' shit) index for measuirng the density
> of their prevarication--sort of a tone scale for
> lies. then we could issue appropriate alerts
> based on this index, like whether simple overshoes
> were sufficient or you really need hip-boots to
> wade thru a particular piece of 'litterature'.
Our VelcroRosie sock puppet crammed at least six lies into a single
*sentence* in one particularly entertaining post.
I wonder if that is a cos record. If so, I wonder how long it will
stand.
--
Regards, John
Exceedingly Rude and Discourteous Psychiatric Pawn
Read about Scientology and the abuse of survivors of brain injury:
Catarina Pamnell
<ThomLov...@netscape.net> wrote:
>Hello Catarina;
>
>Well done! Every time the CofS puts out some promo, they better learn
>that it going to be gone over in very great detail with a 'truth'
>filter.
>
Thanks. It's sad though that many CoS members seem to swallow all this
BS. Finding falsehoods in this little Narconon article didn't exactly
require 'skilled research'. Obviously, those who manufacture this
stuff still feel very confident that CoS members are not going to see
through the lies, or if they do, that they won't raise any fuss about
it. And *that* says a lof of what kind of organization we're dealing
with here.
roger gonnet
Catarina Pamnell <cata...@pamnell.com> a écrit dans le message :
38c39139...@news1.tninet.se...
> Happened to be given a copy of International Scientology News, issue 6
> (featuring the 1998 New Years event), and since reposts are popular
> with our friend publicr...@scientology.org, I thought I'd remind
> us all of some of the glaring lies published in this - an official
> magazine published by the Church of Scientology International.
>
> It says Narconon has 12 centers in Sweden, while
> http://www.narconon.a.se lists 3 - Esloev, Huddinge and Knutby - and
> two offices in Gothenburg and Vaesteraas which only do information and
> are not rehab centers.
>
> Where are the other 9 (or to be generous, 7)?
>
> Who in Int PR office can't do primary school aritmetic?
>
> of a drug overdose. That makes 160 persons per day, 58 400 per year.
I noticed that years ago, that's a great stupidity from OSA goons.
Rune Henning Johansen
> how on the video tape from this event you falsely claimed that the
> King and Queen of Sweden personally support Narconon, which caused a
> big scandal here.)
Just like how they lied about the Norwegian Minister of Defense a few
years ago:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/kosmo.html
As far as I can remember, the scientologists said they were going to
publish some corrections. Did they?
--oOo--
Rune H. Johansen
Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net
Yes, they actually did.
cul...@primenet.com wrote to alt.religion.scientology in March 1998:
For all the years I've been reading Scientology publications,
I can not recall ever seeing an apology before. In "Good News:
A Scientology Newspaper" (undated, un-numbered, but copyright
1997) on page 5 is a "for the record" box. It tells that the
last Good News had an incorrect attribution to the Norwegian
Minister of Defense. "The recognition of LRH and The Way to
Happiness was actually made by National Civil Defense
Inspector, Mr. O. Meland..." and then it quotes Mr. Meland.
Does anyone else remember ever seeing an apology in a
Scientology publication?
Best wishes, SP4 & Adm. TOXE CXI
Andreas Heldal-Lund, Normannsgaten 9, N-4013 Stavanger, Norway
Pho: +47 88 00 66 66 Fax: 90 32 35 46 E-mail: hel...@online.no
home.sol.no/~spirous www.xenu.net www.hedning.no/hedning
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have acted, the indifference of those who should have known
better, the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered
most, that has made it possible for evil to triumph."
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keshet
> > ....
> > how on the video tape from this event you falsely claimed that the
> > King and Queen of Sweden personally support Narconon, which caused a
> > big scandal here.)
>
> Just like how they lied about the Norwegian Minister of Defense a few
> years ago:
>
> http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/kosmo.html
>
> As far as I can remember, the scientologists said they were going to
> publish some corrections. Did they?
Scientology's Norwegian Lies
In 1997, the Church of Scientology falsely trumpeted that the
Norwegian Defense Minister, Jorgen Kosmo, praised the Hubbard book
_The Way to Happiness_. The story was run in the Scientology
tabloid _Good News_. According to the article, Kosmo not only
endorsed TWTH but planned to distribute it to "every soldier in
Norway":
"For me, this book has been an eye opener. It is not
enough to read it through once. In fact, each chapter
demands and deserves to be studied with thoughtfulness
and self-evaluation. ... This is a book I respect and
recommend to my friends and to all others."
See the _Good News_ article at:
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/7301/GN5ART.GIF
Andreas Heldal-Lund was, not unexpectedly, a bit surprised and
contacted the Ministry of Defense. As it turned out, the Defense
Minister never read the book and had less-than-flattering things
to say about the "Church".
Andreas further contacted the press, resulting in a front-page
story "Kosmo Misused by Sect" in the newspaper _Dagbladet_.
See Operation Clambake Presents: COS FORGED LETTER
FROM NORWEGIAN DEFENSE MINISTER at:
http://home.sol.no/~spirous/CoS/news/kosmo1.html
OK, that much we all know.
Here's a bit of follow-up. In the next issue of _Good News_,
Scientology issued this retraction:
<--begin quote-->
FOR THE RECORD
In the last issue of _Good News_, a statement in support of L. Ron
Hubbard's _The Way to Happiness_ non-religious moral code was
mis-attributed to the Norwegian Minister of Defense. The
recognition of LRH and _The Way to Happiness_ was actually made by
National Civil Defense Inspector, Mr. O. Meland, who stated:
"To anyone concerned: A while ago I received from my
friend Dan Viggo one copy of _The Way to Happiness_.
After I read it through once, I was sitting here
feeling a little confused. All that is described in
this book is actually natural. This is what most of
us attempted to learn in our childhood. Family, close
friends and school described these things as 'Golden
Rules' when they wanted to prepare us for the
confrontation with life and day-to-day living. The
book showed me that along the way these 'naturals'
have faded out and in many instances are totally gone.
"Why?
"How?
"It is not so easy to find single answers. What is
absolutely sure, though, is that these basic rules
must be heeded for better if we expect to continue to
survive as man, and as man to man. For me this book
was an eye opener. It is not enough, however, to read
it through one time. Each chapter demands and deserves
to be 'studied' with thoughtfulness and self-analysis.
If one takes his time to do this, one could also,
little by little, adopt the way that is presented and
take that way. We simply have not been in the condition
to see it and therefore fully understand what is
demanded of us to walk on it.
"A book I respect and can recommend to friends and others."
<--end quote-->
This is what Scientology previously attributed to the Defense
Minister, Jorgen Kosmo.
So now we must ask if Mr. Meland actually said this. Afterall,
Scientology lies so facilely and blatantly, what's one more
fabrication? Perhaps they simply picked another official at
random, one with a vaguely similar title, and switched the
quote to him.
Since _Good News_ originally reported that the Defense Minister
was "...working out how to get copies of TWTH to every soldier
in Norway", I wonder if the National Civil Defense Inspector is
doing the same for his "troops"? Does he have troops? Or is this
merely a typical Scientology postulate, i.e., Just Another
Fabrication?
Keshet
--
Kes...@cyberpass.net * [12]http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/scn/racism/
Where prejudice exists it always discolors our thoughts. -M.Twain
Catarina Pamnell
>On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:21:13 +0100, Rune Henning Johansen
><rune...@online.no> wrote:
>>Just like how they lied about the Norwegian Minister of Defense a
few
>>years ago:
>>
>> http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/kosmo.html
>>
>>As far as I can remember, the scientologists said they were going
to
>>publish some corrections. Did they?
>
>Yes, they actually did.
>
>cul...@primenet.com wrote to alt.religion.scientology in March
1998:
>
> For all the years I've been reading Scientology publications,
> I can not recall ever seeing an apology before. In "Good News:
> A Scientology Newspaper" (undated, un-numbered, but copyright
> last Good News had an incorrect attribution to the Norwegian
> Minister of Defense. "The recognition of LRH and The Way to
> Happiness was actually made by National Civil Defense
> Inspector, Mr. O. Meland..." and then it quotes Mr. Meland.
> Does anyone else remember ever seeing an apology in a
> Scientology publication?
>
Yes! Though it wasn't very much of an apology, rather an "we are
obliged to publish an apology but we actually had good reason to print
what we did" In Danish Freedom magazine (official magazine for the
Danish CoS) some time late 1999, there was an apology for having
claimed that journalist Tom Heinemann had Stasi connections.
Unfortunately I don't have a copy here, so I can't quote it verbatim
(that issue is also not found on the www.freedommag.org site)
Heinemann had sued the CoS over the Stasi articles. There were some
other media people suing too, I haven't remembered to check out on how
it went (my guess would be that they settled...)
roger gonnet
keshet <kes...@cyberpass.net> a écrit dans le message :
8a5l7...@enews2.newsguy.com...
> Scientology lies so facilely and blatantly, what's one more
> fabrication? Perhaps they simply picked another official at
> random, one with a vaguely similar title, and switched the
> quote to him.
>
> Since _Good News_ originally reported that the Defense Minister
> was "...working out how to get copies of TWTH to every soldier
> in Norway", I wonder if the National Civil Defense Inspector is
> doing the same for his "troops"? Does he have troops? Or is this
> merely a typical Scientology postulate, i.e., Just Another
> Fabrication?
I'd suspect that they have added a lie to a lie, which is their best method
when they have been trapped lying: see what they answered to the journalists
when Arnie discovered their doctorings of the Y2K event in LA !
They added lies to lies. Can't say anything really as-is: there ising scale
level is "alter-sing" would have said lerong hissef.
See as well what they do in the Lisa Case... adding lies to lies, as ever.
roger