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Ex Mudder  
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 More options Sep 11 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology, soc.culture.german, nl.scientology, de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology
From: Xmud...@dkeith.vip.best.com (Ex Mudder)
Date: 1997/09/11
Subject: Re: Hubbard's SPs/Hitler's Jews (RVY)
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In article <5va0at$tn...@eskinews.eskimo.com>, wri...@eskimo.com

(Robert Vaughn Young) wrote:

<snip>

>It is a long-standing Dept 20 joke that attacking an SP actually HELPS
>them. It gives them "case gain." It will "make their TA move." (A complex
>inside joke.)

  The frightening part is that I almost get it.

<snip>

>               Hubbard's "Final Solution"

>Look at what Hubbard wanted to do with SPs. (There have been some good
>quotes to ARS.) He believed that 2% of the population was SP and they
>should be sent off to camps, their civil rights suspened, and isolated
>from the rest of society. Sound familiar? That would be the camp - a camp
>of SPs - where the "commandant" could use them for target practice, the
>way such minds have inhumanely used others.

  Close but not quite.

  20% (not just 2%) should be quarantined / removed from society /
deprived their rights.  Its just the recalcitrant 1.1's (2.5% of the
population, equaling 6.5 million Americans) who need to be killed.

"There are only two answers for the handling of people
from 2.0 down on the tone scale, neither one of which has anything to
do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of
their acts. The first is to raise them on the tone scale by
un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid
processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without
sorrow."

  Ie, re-education or death.  The "three valid processes" as I
understand them are isolation, auditing, and relocation.  Look what
that did to Lisa Mcpherson.

"Adders are safe bedmates compared to people on the lower bands of the
tone scale. Not all the beauty nor the handsomeness nor artificial
social value nor property can atone for the vicious damage such people
do to sane men and women."

  These people (IE, every critic on a.r.s.) are no better than Adders.
Anyone have a similar quote from Hitler re jews?

"The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower
bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an
almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the
dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered."

  Expunging them from the human race will make the world better (like
how chasing out the Jews made the German economy better, cuz the jews
were the cause of it all).

" It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to to have
a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to
delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing
them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line--a task which,
indeed, is not very great, since the amount of processing in many
cases might be under fifty hours, although it might also in others be"

  How many East Germans were "processed" for 50-200 hours by the
Stasi?

 in excess of two hundred--or simply quarantining them from the
society. "

  Can anyone say "Concentration Camps" ?

  -- L. Ron Hubbard, Science of Survival, Book I, Chapter 27 (Column
Y: Method Used By Subject To Handle Others), page 157

>Or Hubbard tells how one ruler ridded his country of lepers. (If someone
>could find the exact quote...) According to Hubbard, the ruler announced

  This one?  Or are there more?

" A venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most
lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of
collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put
to leprosy in that country."

  Ibid. (I think that's correct)

>had created a special kingdom for the sick and he would be taking them
>there. They happily boarded a large boat that was taken to sea and the
>boat sunk. As Hubbard put it, the disease was gone - and his inference is
>clear.

  It also means that Hubbard has no problem with killing off the PTS's
(20%) just to get at the SPs (2.5%).  In fact he uses an example about
how well that worked.

<snip>

>Which reminds me of an incident in Hamburg, when I was visiting once. I
>had spent several hours with the head of the Office of the Protection of
>the Constitution and when we were done, he asked me if I had any pictures
>of the leaders of the organization. I opened an IAS magazine and it
>happened to fall to a fold-out (three page) photo spread of an IAS rally.
>Before I could turn the page, the man held it open and looked. The picture
>was of an event, probably at the Los Angeles Shrine Auditorium, taken from
>one of the highest seats to give a wide perspective.  It looked down on
>spotlights, banners and flags and huge photos of Hubbard and at the center
>of the stage was a lone figure, probably David Miscavige. The man beside
>me paused and then looked to his aide and said one word, "Nuremberg." The
>aide nodded silently, as they both looked at the photo. I did too, a chill
>running through me, realizing even more why the German government watches
>this group.

   Hmm...  can anyone get that picture and one from the third reich to
add to the "made for propaganda" page?

>They have seen it before and they don't want to see it again.

>Never again.

  Ditto.

  And tomorrow I get to see them doing the preliminaries in the
Federal Courthouse 15 minutes away from me.  Not only does Scientology
have a tax exempt status greater than that of any other religion in
the US (such as the Catholics and Mormons), it is also the only
religion that can prevent people from practicing their faith, or even
just part of it, without permission from the cult (in the form of tax
exempt non-negotiable fixed donations), enforced by the US courts
under the IP laws.


 
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