A.r.s. Week In Review - Addendum
George...@rocketmail.com
ARS Week in Review inadvertently left off a few important stories
in this week's issue. Therefore this addition is being issued so
you can update your archives. This addendum contains several
behind-the-scenes stories about the lives of some of the most
popular ars posters.
BOULDER, COLORADO
According to authorities a new study of tax exempt organizations
has just been completed and has uncovered some major discrepancies
in Lawrence Wollersheim's reporting of FACTNet's assets and
fundraising activities.
Evidence was uncovered this week by our Colorado correspondent
proving that Wollersheim has been co-mingling his personal funds
and those of FACTNet, which is supposed to operate as a non-profit
tax exempt organization and which is not supposed to inure to the
benefit of any individual person.
Sources state that, practically speaking, Lawrence Wollersheim is
FACTNet. He is listed as the president of FACTNet, acts as the
managing agent of FACTNet, sets FACTNet's policy, has all of its
property at his apartment, exerts sole control of FACTNet's bank
accounts, decides who is appointed to the board of directors, who
the officers are, approves the content of what goes on the web
pages and does all their press releases, etc.
According to an IRS official, Non-profit corporations such as
FACTNet file annual returns with the IRS each year, giving the
details of their fund raising and expenditures. These forms are
referred to as form 990EZ. These forms are open to public review by
request to the IRS or from the non-profit corporation at its
principal place of business.
After receiving a lot of pressure earlier this year, Wollersheim
finally posted what he purports to be a copy of his form 990EZ on
FACTNet's web page. However, this is NOT the version which he
submitted to the IRS. Why did he forge a copy of FACTNet's 1996
990EZ? The form 990EZ which was submitted to the IRS for 1996 also
has attachments which are omitted from the version which
Wollersheim put up on FACTNet's web page.
Form 990EZ which was submitted to the IRS for 1996 lists the
following property as owned by FACTNet:
1. Printer
2. Computer parts
3. Scanner and sheet feed (which FACTNet sold)
4. Image software
5. CD ROM maker
6. Pentium computer (which FACTNet sold)
According to a former FACTNet official, Wollersheim, and his on
again off again girlfriend Karen Kent executed a Uniform Commercial
Code document from the 27th of August 1997. It is entitled:
"Financing Statement"
The return copy of the document goes to:
Lawrence Wollersheim
999 W. Moorehead Circle #B
Boulder, Co. 80303
Wollersheim is listed as the debtor. His address and social
security number (391-52-1026) is listed.
The secured party is listed as:
Karen Kent
106 Mt. Laurel Ct.
Aspen, Co. 81611.
Under number 4. the document states:
"4. The Financing Statement covers the following types or home of
property:
"All Computers 1 Dual Pentium 166, 1 Laptop Pentium 133,
1 Pentium 100-200
"All Monitors 1-21 inch 2 14 inch
"All Printers and CD Maker and Scanners 1 Epson, 2HP's
"All Software and Office at Home Equipment & Furniture
"1990 Jeep Cherokee Vin# 1JF4J76L6LL195078
"1 Pentium 100-200 s/n 4P38006"
It is signed by Lawrence Wollersheim.
CONCLUSION:
While we hesitate to jump to any conclusions, sources close to
FACTNet state that Wollersheim has used FACTNet's equipment to
secure himself a large personal loan of an unspecified amount.
We believe the public has a right to know how much money has he
received from Karen Kent, what he spent the money on, whether she
took a tax deduction as a "donation" and
how much has gone to pay his personal rent, food and
living expenses.
The IRS would sure like to know the answers to these questions too.
WASHINGTON, D.C.
The following report was sent in by a well known ARS Central
Committee member. We can neither confirm nor deny this story at
this time, but instead will let you, the readers, be the judge.
This behind-the-scenes report concerns Margaret Huffstickler, who
has been an active participant on ars and IRC. Although she is a
minor personality on this newsgroup and on IRC, this information
was too good to pass up.
The child of a North Carolina couple, Margaret Huffstickler lives
in Washington, D.C. and is a close friend of Arnie Lerma, and his
girlfriend Victoria, who posts under the name of "Bagheera" and
whom he socializes with quite often (although he does not pay child
support to her).
Margaret and Arnie Lerma drove to Clearwater last March to picket
the Church of Scientology. Though Arnie initially arranged to share
a room with Steven Fishman, he chose rather to inhabit the room,
and bed of Margaret according to informed sources.
What makes Margaret an interesting personality is her profession.
An ardent anti-Scientologist, Margaret works as a "sensual massage
therapist", donning skimpy lingerie, walking her "clients" to her
bedroom where she gives them a full body massage ending with
ejaculation.
For extra money, Margaret plays the role of madam. She claims
$175.00/hourly, has a black book of regular clients and advertises
in two Washington DC adult XXX publications, Decadent City & Climax
Times. She is extremely proud of the photo review she received in
Climax Times last year.
When asked about the legality of her profession, she blows it off,
saying that some of her clients are employed in the DC police &
FBI.
Arnie, take note: Margaret's connections could be very important in
helping you track down just who put the LSD on your toothbrush.
PHOENIX, ARIZONA
Keith Henson was recently spotted by one of our readers in Phoenix,
Arizona attending meetings at Alcor, the home of cryonics, known
for their deep freezing of corpses and decapitated human heads.
Apparently, this ritual gathering was attended by the Alcor
directors.
One Arizona poster, who is into UFOs, has been doing his homework
and learned that Mr. Henson has a very well known reputation in
some circles for being into quirky causes. His past projects and
activities include: participation in space travel societies,
cryonics, nano-technology and other oddball unproven
pseudo-scientific fads. For instance, in the 1970s Keith and his
wife used to get off on setting off explosions in the Arizona
desert.
ARS Week in Review - Addendum, learned this week that this
"explosive" chapter of Henson's life came to a close after a bitter
divorce in which he was accused by his wife of molesting his two
daughters. Keith rapidly blew Arizona to San Jose when the
allegations first emerged in the early 1980s.
Henson was recently confronted with the child molestation
accusation, but for once he was speechless and would not answer ANY
questions on the subject. A group of activists in Henson's
neighborhood are planning on picketing Henson's house and handing
out fliers to make sure that the young children in his neighborhood
are protected.
SEATTLE, WASHINGTON
Finally, Robert Vaughn Young and his wife Stacy admitted this week
to be operating an illegal cat-house in Seattle and as a result
have been ordered by the Seattle Land Use Zoning Department to shut
it down as it is a gross violation of the Zoning code and a health
hazard to the neighborhood. Feeling that he is above the law,
Young vowed to fight this attempt to enforce the city zoning
statutes.
According to Young, though he and Stacy have had upwards of fifty
felines at their house at any given time, Young proclaimed that his
pussies don't stink - which is what he told the Seattle city
inspectors who paid them a visit based on complaints of the
neighbors. Apparently this lead to a misunderstanding and is what
instigated the call to the mental health people.
One resident, responding to Young's no-stink statements said, "I
don't care if you teach your cats to shower daily, there are 50 of
them living together and I don't care what he says, the place
smells pretty bad. They must have at least ten litter boxes in
their house to handle fifty cats and it smells downright disgusting
when you walk by and the door is open."
The Youngs never set up their cat-house legally to begin with and
thus created their own problems. Because their house stinks,
someone reported them. In this day and age the Youngs should have
taken safety measures when they started selling pussies and doing
business with strangers.
More next week...
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LsaDerrick
Wow! That's something else! Good work Keith, Robert, Arnie!
And George Worthy: "LA Confidential" must have been sorta influential; you're
writing style has certainly gotten, um yellow.
Mike O'Connor
In article <19971006181...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
star...@aol.com (Starsats) wrote:
[...]
> OSA WAKE UP! Get some NEW da tactics, cause the old ones aren't working
> any more. [...]
I't almost kind of funny. Because dead cult founder L. Ron Hubbard is
dead, he isn't around to update the sacred scripture the way he used to
before he became utterly dead. The scripture can't be changed and must be
followed exactly. And it is the sacred scripture of the cult which
instructs devout followers to use these hoary dusty old tactics. The cult
must know how poorly the tactics work in this day and age, but they are
required to follow them all, exactly, anyway. They are STUCK. And the
tactics stick out like a sore thumb. It's would be funny, if people
weren't being abused. But, abuse of people and the law is built into cult
scripture and they must follow the scriptures of the dead founder -
exactly. -Mike
James Wood
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On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:52:28 -0600, George...@rocketmail.com
wrote:
>
>ARS Week in Review inadvertently left off a few important
stories
>in this week's issue. Therefore this addition is being issued
so
>you can update your archives. This addendum contains several
>behind-the-scenes stories about the lives of some of the most
>popular ars posters.
Hi, GeorgeWorthy, or should I say "Mr. or Ms. OSA"? Nice parody!
I laughed and laughed and laughed. Just so you know though, we
of the ARSCC(wdne) Humour Division are usually the ones
responsible for setting up this sort of thing. I understand that
sometimes the desire to make a fool of one's of oneself is
pretty intense, but PLEASE leave it to RonsAmigo, Mikesmith3 and
gun_bunny, who have all been hatted to do this, ok?
If you have to do humour outside your post, you can do the usual
posting about LRon's grades before flunking out of university
and his claim to be a nuclear physicist, the numbers of
scientologists worldwide or the horrors of the conspiracy of
bankers and psychiatrists. That kinda stuff is old, but you have
to start somewhere.
Thanks for the try, though, and remember, we all have our jobs
with the ARSCC, so stick with what you're hatted for, ok?
James
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Starsats
>Keith rapidly blew Arizona to San Jose when the
>allegations first emerged in the early 1980s.
ONLY a clam would use words like this. I've said it before and I'll say it
again:
OSA WAKE UP! Get some NEW da tactics, cause the old ones aren't working
any more. Or do you like having to keep repairing the hole in your foot from
shooting it so many times??
Let's review the Hit Parade:
You are suing Grady Ward but have no proof that he is Scamizdat.
You deny that Lisa McPherson died at Flag. Then your own records released
to the public show otherwise.
Salient points of current lawsuits have been dropped.
Well, I can't blame you for trying to be on source. Good show.
Ex-CMO
David Gerard
On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:26:12 GMT,
Rebecca Hartong <har...@erols.com> wrote:
:In article <8761597...@dejanews.com>, George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
:>This behind-the-scenes report concerns Margaret Huffstickler...
:Margaret? MARGARET?!?!
:I can understand the attacks on Henson, Young & Wollersheim. They've
:all put major hurts on Scientology. But-- Margaret?!? You couldn't
:ask for a more inoffensive critic of Scientology.
Time to go through the OSA Points Calculator -
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/scn/fun/osa-points.txt
and try to work out what quiet little behind-the-scenes nuke she has
obviously dropped on them.
I would not take any information in a DA pack as being the case
by the way, regarding the alleged profession.
--
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/scn/ http://www.suburbia.net/~fun/scn/
I hereby encourage all earthlink.net users to leave for a provider whose
email and Usenet messages are not boycotted by the rest of the net, and
for ISPs to continue to block earthlink.net email and Usenet messages from
Earthlink, until earthlink.net *stop* the flow of junk email and spam.
Frank Copeland
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>X-Originating-IP-Addr: 207.211.62.51 (p06.hwts09.loop.net)
>X-Authenticated-Sender: George...@rocketmail.com
Just in case anyone missed the obvious, this was most probably posted by
wg...@loop.com. I have to ask myself, just how many people do the clams have
left that they can trust to post on ARS, that they have to try to pretend
their numbers are larger by using these obviously fake rocketmail accounts?
And why, after all these years, they haven't developed enough sophistication
to post in ways that don't appear as such obvious and amateur forgeries?
As for the "content":
"This is the correct procedure:
1. Spot who is attacking us.
2. Start investigating them promptly for FELONIES or worse using our own
professionals, not outside agencies.
3. Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them.
4. Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on the attackers to
the press."
Don't ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on
attackers all the way.
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 25 Feb 1966 "Attacks on Scientology"
- --
Home Page: <URL:http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fjc/>
Not the Scientology Home Page: <URL:http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/>
Keep it in Usenet. E-mail replies and 'courtesy' copies are not welcome.
If you're selling, I ain't buying.
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JimDBB
>Subject: A.r.s. Week In Review - Addendum
>From: George...@rocketmail.com
>According to authorities a new study of tax exempt organizations
>has just been completed and has uncovered some major discrepancies
>in Lawrence Wollersheim's reporting of FACTNet's assets and
>fundraising activities.
>
Well, the scientology cult's gestapo, the OSA (Office of Special Affairs) is
attempting to accuse Lawrence Wollersheim and FACTnet of tax-exempt tax fraud.
This from the Church of Scientology which has been getting away with an array
of crimes and frauds on tax-exempt money.
JImDBB
Misenla
What, is Kitty Kelley a scientologist now? Big Win for them, I suppose.
wgert
til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote:
>In <8761597...@dejanews.com>, George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
>>What makes Margaret an interesting personality is her profession.
>>An ardent anti-Scientologist, Margaret works as a "sensual massage
>>therapist", donning skimpy lingerie, walking her "clients" to her
>>bedroom where she gives them a full body massage ending with
>>ejaculation.
>>For extra money, Margaret plays the role of madam. She claims
>>$175.00/hourly, has a black book of regular clients and advertises
>>in two Washington DC adult XXX publications, Decadent City & Climax
>>Times. She is extremely proud of the photo review she received in
>>Climax Times last year.
>>
>>When asked about the legality of her profession, she blows it off,
>>saying that some of her clients are employed in the DC police &
>>FBI.
>Hey wgert - so what? Surfing ars can be very exhausting, and I'm glad if
>some people are qualified to give some relief. For the ars-cc everyone
>is useful, regardless if a person is a hooker or a librarian. (Although
>this doesn't mean that I would be buy her "sensual massage" - there are
>things I don't like to pay for. And $175 is quite expensive).
That's right, Tilly certainly wouldn't pay more than $5.00.
wgert
Read the Rogues Gallery of ARS Bigots
www.dancris.com/~rshaw
Misenla
This particular DA pack doesn't strike me as even being targeted at
critics or at the unsuspecting "raw meat." Particularly the Arnie/Margaret
and the RVY portions read like old-fashioned morality stories designed
to offend and unnerve sex-fearing Sea Org members. The whole tone reads
far more like FREEDOM sensationalism than SCN pr. Make you wonder
just who the target audience of this post really is.
"Aren't you glad you're part of the in-crowd? See, the wogs are uncouth
hussies, every one of them! They aren't interested in Clearing the Planet
like you good boys and girls. Don't worry. We'll protect you from them."
wgert
lep...@panix.com (Mike O'Connor) wrote:
>In article <19971006181...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
>star...@aol.com (Starsats) wrote:
>[...]
>> OSA WAKE UP! Get some NEW da tactics, cause the old ones aren't working
>> any more. [...]
>I't almost kind of funny. Because dead cult founder L. Ron Hubbard is
>dead, he isn't around to update the sacred scripture the way he used to
>before he became utterly dead. The scripture can't be changed and must be
>followed exactly. And it is the sacred scripture of the cult which
>instructs devout followers to use these hoary dusty old tactics. The cult
>must know how poorly the tactics work in this day and age, but they are
>required to follow them all, exactly, anyway. They are STUCK. And the
>tactics stick out like a sore thumb. It's would be funny, if people
>weren't being abused. But, abuse of people and the law is built into cult
>scripture and they must follow the scriptures of the dead founder -
>exactly. -Mike
If DA tactics don't work in this day and age, why are you trying to
"DA" the information in the post?
My question is is it true?
wgert
star...@aol.com (Starsats) wrote:
>>Keith rapidly blew Arizona to San Jose when the
>>allegations first emerged in the early 1980s.
>ONLY a clam would use words like this. I've said it before and I'll say it
> again:
> OSA WAKE UP! Get some NEW da tactics, cause the old ones aren't working
> any more. Or do you like having to keep repairing the hole in your foot from
> shooting it so many times??
>Let's review the Hit Parade:
> You are suing Grady Ward but have no proof that he is Scamizdat.
Not true. You haven't been reading the newsgroup closely.
> You deny that Lisa McPherson died at Flag. Then your own records released
> to the public show otherwise.
Again not true. You know even less about this.
> Salient points of current lawsuits have been dropped.
There are injunctions in place in each case for copyright
infringement. I would say that is the idea behind filing these kinds
of infringement suits.
>
>Well, I can't blame you for trying to be on source. Good show.
>Ex-CMO
An imposter for sure.
wgert
har...@erols.com (Rebecca Hartong) wrote:
>In article <8761597...@dejanews.com>, George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
>>This behind-the-scenes report concerns Margaret Huffstickler...
>Margaret? MARGARET?!?!
>I can understand the attacks on Henson, Young & Wollersheim. They've
>all put major hurts on Scientology. But-- Margaret?!? You couldn't
>ask for a more inoffensive critic of Scientology.
Yes, but she sure has a strange occupation. I thought it was quite
interesting, particularly her relationship with Arnie Lerma. I'll have
to ask Russ Shaw to add it to the bigots web page.
>Weird.
>Well, for whatever it's worth, whatever Margaret's profession is, it
>certainly doesn't make her any more or less effective as a critic of
>Scientology. I mean--really--who the hell cares?
Do you think that her profession is a totally normal type everyday
job?
>What a strange post.
>Rebecca Hartong
Rod Keller
Dave VanHorn (u...@ftc.gov) wrote:
: Hey Rod: Isn't this a case of copyright infringement????
: You have de-facto copyright on "ARS Week in Review".
The original clam post hasn't shown up here for some reason. I have always
encouraged people who don't like Week in Review for one reason or another
to write their own. But I'd much prefer that they use a distinct name,
rather than horning in on the A.r.s Week in Review name. I don't think
I'll ever try to trademark the name, seeing as it's really just a hobby
for an hour or two a week. Most of the people who tell me Week in Review
is the only way to keep up-to-date on Scientology in the time they have
available are email subscribers, who would obviously never see this
addendum. There are more than 400 of these currently.
: I love the bit about the ARSCC member. There IS no ARSCC!!!
Truth.
--
Rod Keller / rke...@voicenet.com / Irresponsible Publisher
Black Hat #1 / Expert of the Toilet / Golden Gate Bridge Club
The Lerma Apologist / Merchant of Chaos / Kha Khan countdown: 9 to go
Killer Rod / OSA Patsy / Quasi-Scieno / Mental Bully
John C. Randolph
In <8761597...@dejanews.com> George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
-> PHOENIX, ARIZONA
->
-> Keith Henson was recently spotted by one of our readers in Phoenix,
-> Arizona attending meetings at Alcor, the home of cryonics, known
-> for their deep freezing of corpses and decapitated human heads.
-> Apparently, this ritual gathering was attended by the Alcor
-> directors.
Alcor makes no bones about what they do. They freeze whole bodies and heads
in the *hope* that future medical technology will enable the restoration of a
person to life. Their own literature freely acknowledges what a long shot
this is. Of course, the chance of future medicine suceeding in restoring a
person from cryogenic suspension is considerably higher than the chance of
the Church of Scientology ever demonstrating the "powers" that "Operating
Thetans" are supposed to gain.
C'mon, Miscarriage: All you have to do is fly in a circle around my house,
without the help of an airplane, rocket, etc, and I'll retract every nasty
thing I've ever said about you. Or, you can do something much easier: Take
James Randi's challenge. Demonstrate *any* of your supposed paranormal
powers under laboratory observation, and show us skeptics that we've been
wrong all these years.
-> One Arizona poster, who is into UFOs, has been doing his homework and
-> learned that Mr. Henson has a very well known reputation in some circles
-> for being into quirky causes. His past projects and activities include:
-> participation in space travel societies, cryonics, nano-technology and
-> other oddball unproven pseudo-scientific fads. For instance, in the 1970s
-> Keith and his wife used to get off on setting off explosions in the
-> Arizona desert.
It's all in "The Great Mambo Chicken and the Transhuman Condition." Look for
it in your local library. Now, if you think that founding the L-5 society is
a "quirky" cause, maybe it is, but it only seeks to promote space
exploration and colonization. It's a *long* way from a UFO nut-cult like the
Co$.
As for the explosions, so what? I played with firecrackers as a kid. I also
dabbled in some simple explosive chemistry experiments. Someday, I might go
out in the desert and learn how to make a fuel-air explosion. Sounds like a
*hell* of a lot of fun.
-> ARS Week in Review - Addendum, learned this week that this
-> "explosive" chapter of Henson's life came to a close after a bitter
-> divorce in which he was accused by his wife of molesting his two
-> daughters. Keith rapidly blew Arizona to San Jose when the
-> allegations first emerged in the early 1980s.
Look back in the ARS archives, and find the post where Keith "dead-agents"
himself. He told us all right up front that he was investigated for child
molestation, and EXONERATED. You know what exonerated means, don't you? It
means that the investigation found no substantiation of the charges. Rather
like the results that would come up if you ever tried to find evidence
backing Hubbard's claims of being a war hero: You might *like* it to be
true, but the evidence just isn't there.
-> Henson was recently confronted with the child molestation
-> accusation, but for once he was speechless and would not answer ANY
-> questions on the subject.
He's always been quite forthcoming on the subject when I asked him about it.
Maybe your OSA thug wasn't asking him calmly and politely.
-> A group of activists in Henson's neighborhood are planning on picketing
-> Henson's house and handing out fliers to make sure that the young children
-> in his neighborhood are protected.
You really don't want to do this in Palo Alto, sport. Keith knows his
neighbors, and they know him. Of course, if you *really* want to know how
the Nazis felt when they marched in Skokie, Illinois, then go right ahead.
->
->
-> SEATTLE, WASHINGTON
->
-> Finally, Robert Vaughn Young and his wife Stacy admitted this week
-> to be operating an illegal cat-house in Seattle and as a result
-> have been ordered by the Seattle Land Use Zoning Department to shut
-> it down as it is a gross violation of the Zoning code and a health
-> hazard to the neighborhood. Feeling that he is above the law,
-> Young vowed to fight this attempt to enforce the city zoning
-> statutes.
This is the worst you could find on Young? Excessive Cat Ownership?
I guess the "miss bloodyrump" incident was such a debacle that today you're
just settling for finding *anything* at all on a docket, and trying to make a
federal case out of it.
Whatever. Say what you like about Keith and Robert, they're not the ones who
sell 360 thousand dollar loads of hogwash to pathetic cult-followers. For
that matter, they never tied anyone to a bed and allowed them to starve and
die of dehydration.
-jcr
---
John C. Randolph (408) 358-6732 NeXT mail preferred.
Chief Technology Officer, WARPnet Incorporated.
@"Hey, %s! You're a NAZI, and you can't spell!"
wgert
wb8...@netcom.com (David Lesher) wrote:
>George...@rocketmail.com writes:
>>ARS Week in Review inadvertently left off a few important stories
>>in this week's issue.
>Jezzzze... Helene, Queen of the Ho's, and Miscarriage, runt of the
>Poodles, must be knockedkneed with terror to resort to this level
>of claptrap...
>Squeek-Squeek-Squeek...
>I've lost track. WHERE is it the ax is set to fall that has the
>Queen and the Poodle-runt so upset?
I would say that with the stuff that is going on at FACTNet, the ax is
going to fall on FACTNet:
CONCLUSION:
--
I would like to thank whoever wrote the Addendum. This is good stuff.
roger gonnet
wgert wrote:
>
> jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
>
> >>Subject: A.r.s. Week In Review - Addendum
> >>From: George...@rocketmail.com
>
> >>has just been completed and has uncovered some major discrepancies
> >>in Lawrence Wollersheim's reporting of FACTNet's assets and
> >>fundraising activities.
Yes, wgert asshole: did your fucking kriminal kult ever gave any 990
reports? Even IRS, which seems now as Kriminal an affair as when the
Kult said so (see what the officers said some days ago), is protecting
kriminal kult and does not send the 990 forms I've asked for scamtology
tchurdch! so, i see you are in sort "corroborating" the fact that you
keep on accusing everybody else of the Krimes your fucKing Krikrit
tchurdch is Kommiting, overtly or covertly!
You are a funcking asshole, and what you deserve is being fucKed in
jail, like you small chief kriminal missKavige. Get to hell, poor worm.
Roger
KKKGB
Kriminal Kult Killers Gang's Bird
> >>
>
> >Well, the scientology cult's gestapo, the OSA (Office of Special Affairs) is
> > attempting to accuse Lawrence Wollersheim and FACTnet of tax-exempt tax fraud.
> > This from the Church of Scientology which has been getting away with an array
> > of crimes and frauds on tax-exempt money.
>
> >JImDBB
>
> Jim DB, how do you explain this:
>
> --
> --
>
> I would say Woller$heim has a few problems explaining this one.
Keith Henson
Ted (t...@ibexbsc.com.xenu.antispam) wrote:
: George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
: ... the death throes of $cientology ...
: The demise of the criminal syndicate of scientology is near. I
: wouldn't have thought it possible, but then some (whiner, pretender)
: clam posted the "Addendum" anonymously through DejaNews! Will Court
: TV cover the seizure and dissolution of the organization, and the
: sentencing of top clams for various felony counts? Next month?
: Sooner than that!?
: Yippee!
A year ago I figured they would not have much time left. Now, I think it
will be more than months, but less than a few years. But I could be
wrong either way. One thing I will predict is that when it starts to
crumble in a way that outsiders can observe it will be days to weeks
before it all falls appart. Kind of like the social forces which took
down the Berlin wall built up over decades and the wall fell in days.
: Wonder how much money has been moved offshore from the various cult
: front groups? (All in blocks one cent less than the reporting
: threshhold.)? How much more is yet to be moved? Monday night
: football is next up; cult screwups can wait til later.
Ted, I think you missjudge the depth of the infectious insanity
involved. I would bet fairly long odds that money has been flowing
*into* the US for some time to make up the shortfall caused (to some
extent) by the battle with the net.
Lawrence Wollersheim could well miss out being paid by the cult going
completely broke. He might consider this an acceptable conclusion.
Keith Henson
DeoMorto
My attention was called to the original posting by the drone from rocket.fail
and it caused me a lot of amusement.
Boy OSA has some sad prats working in in it nowadays. Damn at least the GO
had some real thugs with a bit of imagination.
Reading through the posting made me realize that it would probably be unwise
to entrust small children and any small mammals to the the care of anyone who
works for OSA. Their obsession with sex is very unhealthy and their
preoccupation with luking around alleys and windows trying desperately to seek
some sort of gratification makes one wonder if even a hamster would be safe in
their hands.
I had no idea that you guys had sunk to this level of incompetence.
Gunbunny
On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:57:00 -0500, "Alec" <al...@flash.net>,
<61bodf$lqd$1...@excalibur.flash.net> wrote :
>This will be entered as evidence to Scientology's degenerate, non-relgious
>nature in my fourth coming prosecution.
ROFLAMO!
Your really killing me, Alec. Are you the head of the ARSCC Humor Division
or are you part of the crack-pot team?
Keith
Joe Harrington
wgert wrote:
>
> Jim DB, how do you explain this:
>
> --
> After receiving a lot of pressure earlier this year, Wollersheim
> finally posted what he purports to be a copy of his form 990EZ on
> FACTNet's web page. However, this is NOT the version which he
> submitted to the IRS. Why did he forge a copy of FACTNet's 1996
> 990EZ? The form 990EZ which was submitted to the IRS for 1996 also
> has attachments which are omitted from the version which
> Wollersheim put up on FACTNet's web page.
Why don't you explain it all "WGERT", or whatever you name is; since it
appears you are the source of this information?
Better yet, why not be a real person and identify yourself and who you
represent and personally contact FactNet if you have some valid concern?
Why all this fixation on FactNet? You've previously asserted that
FactNet is broke, its nothing more than an alter ego of Wollersheim, no
one pays much attention to it, and it is having NO impact on
Scientology's spectacular growth?
Why don't you focus on the real issues that are having a negative impact
on your "Church"? FactNet/Wollersheim can't be doing that much damage?
Joe
Zane Thomas
On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 06:34:37 GMT, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
>I would say that with the stuff that is going on at FACTNet, the ax is
>going to fall on FACTNet:
>
>Form 990EZ which was submitted to the IRS for 1996 lists the
>following property as owned by FACTNet:
Blah, blah, blah. Do you think that pathetically trivial bit even
begins to compare with the corporate shell-game and massive fraud
likely perpetrated by the Co/rtc/sea-org/whatever? When the FBI and
the IRS next visit y'all it's going to be the end. Turn state's
evidence now and save yourself, there's only one get out of jail free
card wgert. Use it now, before it's too late.
Zane
Zane Thomas
On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 06:07:39 GMT, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
>> You are suing Grady Ward but have no proof that he is Scamizdat.
>
>Not true. You haven't been reading the newsgroup closely.
Bullshit clamboy. I could post OT(whatever) with your name in it any
time. With adequate preparation I could easily do so without being
detected, ever. And it would look like _you_ did it. Try to get a
clue, if the tech allows it, ok?
>> You deny that Lisa McPherson died at Flag. Then your own records released
>> to the public show otherwise.
>
>Again not true. You know even less about this.
Oh bullshit again. How do _you_ know where Lisa died eh?
>> Salient points of current lawsuits have been dropped.
>
>There are injunctions in place in each case for copyright
>infringement.
ROFLMAO!
And where did the Trade Sekerts go?
Zane
Ted Mayett (KoX)
On 7 Oct 1997 11:52:35 GMT, rke...@netaxs.com (Rod Keller) wrote:
> There are more than 400 of these currently.
>
Interesting. Between Nevada and Arizona, which contain three orgs, a
Dianetics center, and a Mission, they do not have 400 people!!!
At one event here they managed 170, Jeff Jacobsen has reported about
150 at one event, or so I recall.
A few days ago I watched the shift change at the big org here.
4 people left, 6 people arrived between 5:30-6pm.
The six arrivals would account for both staff and students coming in.
arnie_lerma
wg...@loop.com says... [ nothing of substance as usual, move over fool ]
Scientology(tm) and its bait & switch front man, Dianetics(tm)
Run by the Lord of the Drones - David Miscavige
Master of the technology(tm) of Mental Manipulation...
The techniques used in Room 101 from Orweill's 1984
The programming language for the Dalek Empire..
Lurching hords of pompous buffoons...
chanting the mantra...
Exterminate the Suppresives!
Exterminate the Suppresives!
Exterminate the Suppresives!
Exterm- (ouch) they stubbed thier toe trying to digest Lerma...and the net,
1.7 million in litigation and he's still there! No he's here!
man, he is everywhere!
Exterminate his friends!
Exterminate his friends!
Sorry scumbags, they are with me and
my friends are gonna be tough chew too...
And if you think I gave you indigestion already,
you obviously haven't heard the news....
Arnie Lerma
See http://www.lermanet.com for the true nature of the Fraud called $cientology
And send money to the critic of your choice today...
Do it to fight the FRAUD of $cientology...
Another is born every day... PT Barnum
(Hubbard was a big fan of PT Barnum)
Taniwha
wgert wrote:
> If DA tactics don't work in this day and age, why are you trying to
> "DA" the information in the post?
ah! so you admit that your posting was DA and that DA is 'in-tech' as
defined by blubbard
Taniwha
Mike O'Connor
In article <61cksv$q1b$4...@e4000.supernews.com>, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
[...]
> CONCLUSION:
>
> While we hesitate to jump to any conclusions, [...]
Who is "we"? What group are you speaking for? Thanks! -Mike
Taniwha
David Lesher wrote:
> I've lost track. WHERE is it the ax is set to fall that has the
> Queen and the Poodle-runt so upset?
I think that they're going after all the people who
have said they're going to go to Clearwater to picket
The SPs are going to picket
Hey poodle we want you to stick it
way up your ass
we're not going to pass
your DAs are just lunatic shit
Taniwha
Taniwha
RonIsXenu wrote:
>
> Scientology's Secret nonsense:
>
> OPERATING THETAN
>
> Section III
>
> The head of the Galactic Federation ....
> His name was Xenu.....
Lord Xenu was up for a rave
he looked for a world to enslave
he needed a fool
who wanted to rule
this bullshit to Elron he gave
Taniwha
Taniwha
Zane Thomas wrote:
>
> On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 06:07:39 GMT, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
> >Not true. You haven't been reading the newsgroup closely.
>
> Bullshit clamboy. I could post OT(whatever) with your name in it any
> time. With adequate preparation I could easily do so without being
> detected, ever. And it would look like _you_ did it. Try to get a
> clue, if the tech allows it, ok?
oh I think he knows how to do it - I personally think he posted the
piece of crap that started this thread (under the direction
of his OSA masters of course ...)
wgert was told to DA
every one the thought that just may
be going to Flag
so that they could rag
on the cult of dispair and dismay
Taniwha
Taniwha
Gunbunny wrote:
>
> On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:25:43 GMT, xe...@mindspring.com (Rob Clark),
> <34397362...@news.mindspring.com> wrote :
>
> >On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:52:28 -0600, George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
> >
> >[crap]
> >
> >what repugnant shit!
> I often wonder if Rob suffers from short term memory loss?
Henrii: "what repugnant shit"
Made gun bunny get into a snit
for one whos a troll
it seems that his sole
reason for posting is to spit
Taniwha
Tilman Hausherr
>>Hey wgert - so what? Surfing ars can be very exhausting, and I'm glad if
>>some people are qualified to give some relief. For the ars-cc everyone
>>is useful, regardless if a person is a hooker or a librarian. (Although
>>this doesn't mean that I would be buy her "sensual massage" - there are
>>things I don't like to pay for. And $175 is quite expensive).
>
>That's right, Tilly certainly wouldn't pay more than $5.00.
Is this an admission that you did indeed post the stuff? Hey, how about
doing some color scanning work? I'd love to see the review of Margaret's
services, if what you posted actually exists. (In the global reality,
not in your "local" one)
Btw, I suspect that Margaret is somehow a very efficient "secret"
critic, to be attacked like that by scientology. She successfully
impersonated a net.kook on ars, it is hard to believe that she hit you
so hard.
Tilman
--
Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
til...@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos
Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.
Find broken links on your web site with "Xenu's Link Sleuth":
http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/xenulink.html
Paul
wgert wrote:
>
> star...@aol.com (Starsats) wrote:
> > You are suing Grady Ward but have no proof that he is Scamizdat.
>
Well, actually, wgert, we have. And we haven't seen even one shred of
evidence that will stand up in a court of law on this matter. But if
you actually have evidence, by all means, show it to us.
> > You deny that Lisa McPherson died at Flag. Then your own records released
> > to the public show otherwise.
>
> Again not true. You know even less about this.
Again, it's true. A fact that was admitted publicly and is corroborated
by the released documents. Again, if you actually have evidence, I'm
sure there's a lawyer or two down in Florida who would love to hear from
you.
> > Salient points of current lawsuits have been dropped.
>
> There are injunctions in place in each case for copyright
> infringement.
And yet the Church of Scientology[tm] lost trade secret status in every
case they brought. And once it's gone, it's gone for good. Now, all
that you have is the far weaker copyright protection. The Church of
Scientology[tm] has lost and has lost big, regardless of the outcome of
the remainder of your complaints. In a number of years, all of these
documents become public record. How does that make you feel, wgert?
> I would say that is the idea behind filing these kinds
> of infringement suits.
Really...then would you care to explain a) why the trade secret
complaint was made? and b) why it was dropped?
-Paul
Zane Thomas
On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 10:21:49 -0700, Taniwha <tan...@taniwha.com>
wrote:
> wgert was told to DA
> every one the thought that just may
> be going to Flag
> so that they could rag
> on the cult of dispair and dismay
I'm still waiting for them to try that on me. Other than the pathetic
lies posted by scarffie I haven't seen anything. :-(
Zane
Fast
On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 06:30:23 GMT, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
> Joe Harrington <joe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >Great lurid, juicy stuff! All the material that WGERT was posting was
> >stale and boring. stuff. Many thanks to OSA's creative writing
> >department, and keep it coming..
>
> >Joe
>
> I was most interested in the information about Woller$heim
> misappropriating FACTNet computer equipment in order to obtain a
> personal loan from his girlfriend. I'll bet she has sunk a lot of
> money into supporting Woller$heim. This must be how he is supporting
> himself without having a job! He takes in donations, buys computer
> equipment and then uses it as collateral for a personal loan. Nice
> going Wolly.
First off, you have posted and reposted the supposed documentation on
the FACTNET computer equipment so many times that soon it will count
as SPAM.
Second, nobody makes any money selling used PC stuff. Even *new* that
stuff wouldn't add up to more than a few thousand dollars. What would
it be worth used?
> Someone ought to turn him in to the IRS for this one.
"Someone" is already trying really hard, aren't you Wgert?
> wgert
> Read the Rogues Gallery of ARS Bigots
> www.dancris.com/~rshaw
What a pathetic post, you bunch of losers.
- Fast
Taniwha
Frank Copeland wrote:
>
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> George...@rocketmail.com <George...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> >X-Originating-IP-Addr: 207.211.62.51 (p06.hwts09.loop.net)
> >X-Authenticated-Sender: George...@rocketmail.com
>
> Just in case anyone missed the obvious, this was most probably posted by
> wg...@loop.com. I have to ask myself, just how many people do the clams have
yeah I noticed - wgert is slime ....
I think that the reason why many of us are here is because we care
deeply about the joint issues of freedom of speech and privacy
on the internet. What we have here is wgert publishing things
about people that whether or not it's true it's PRIVATE.
That's right whether (or not) two people go to bed together is
NONE OF OUR BUSINESS - it's none of wgert-slime's either, his
only reason for publishing his crap IS TO HURT PEOPLE - frankly
this puts him way below paparazzi/tabloids who only do it for money,
he's doing it because he wants to hurt someone - this sort of
degraded being is the result of years of $cientology 'processing'.
Remember the main sacrament of his religion is that he's
tied to a lie detector and interogated - for years - everywhere else in
the world this would be called "abuse" or "brainwashing". It
fucks with people's minds and turns any concepts of ethical
behavior to mud - wgert is the result. Of course he believes
he's a "wonderfully ethical being" - but he's just deluding
himself from all those years of abuse - wgert - you need to
get your act together - look at your behavior as the rest of us
do and realize that what you are doing is sick - acknowledging
that will be the first of many on that long road to recovery
Taniwha
Paul
wgert wrote:
> If DA tactics don't work in this day and age, why are you trying to
> "DA" the information in the post?
Um, you can't DA information. It is not using DA tactics to point out
where information is either incomplete or incorrect. It's simply
employing proper critical thinking--a technique I urge you to use when
looking at Scientology[tm].
> My question is is it true?
Gee, wgert, I don't know. Do you suppose there's a reason why the
document didn't list any corroborating information?
And, really, does it matter?
-Paul
Lee Thompson-Herbert
>The child of a North Carolina couple, Margaret Huffstickler lives
>in Washington, D.C. and is a close friend of Arnie Lerma, and his
>girlfriend Victoria, who posts under the name of "Bagheera" and
>whom he socializes with quite often (although he does not pay child
>support to her).
BWAHAHahHAHAhahaHAHAHahHAhaha.
I assure you, bagheera is _not_ named Victoria. Nor female.
Really.
If I wasn't sure the whole post was bullshit before, this did it.
--
Lee M.Thompson-Herbert KD6WUR l...@crl.com
Member, Knights of Xenu (1995). Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades.
"There are some people who will argue whether the flames are blue
or green, when the real question is that their arse is on fire."
Joe Harrington
> >>
> >> ARS Week in Review inadvertently left off a few important stories
> >> you can update your archives. This addendum contains several
> >> behind-the-scenes stories about the lives of some of the most
> >> popular ars posters.
>
> >Great lurid, juicy stuff! All the material that WGERT was posting was
> >stale and boring. stuff. Many thanks to OSA's creative writing
> >department, and keep it coming..
>
> >Joe
>
> I was most interested in the information about Woller$heim
> misappropriating FACTNet computer equipment in order to obtain a
> personal loan from his girlfriend. I'll bet she has sunk a lot of
> money into supporting Woller$heim. This must be how he is supporting
> himself without having a job! He takes in donations, buys computer
> equipment and then uses it as collateral for a personal loan. Nice
> going Wolly.
>
>
Diane Richardson made similar allegations and I suggested she notify the
IRS if she thought her charges had some basis in fact. She never said
if she did. I'd suggest you do the same.
Joe
Anti-Cult
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George...@rocketmail.com.
From: Deja News Posting Service.
Wrote on the subject: A.r.s. Week In Review - Addendum:
>
>
>
>ARS Week in Review inadvertently left off a few important stories
>in this week's issue. Therefore this addition is being issued so
>you can update your archives. This addendum contains several
>behind-the-scenes stories about the lives of some of the most
>popular ars posters.
>
[snipped obvious D/A-material]
So, the cult is in big trouble again, how interesting. As usual, they
are following the policies of their dead founder L.Ron the moron
Hubbard:
The article that I post this followup to, is posted and written by the
criminal organisation of Scientology, or one of it's cultists. This is
a perfect example of what the church (spit) calls Dead Agenting. See
explanation below.
Here's a fair use excerpt of their policy describing HOW to dead
agent.
- From HCOPL 21 Nov. 1972
Subject: HOW TO HANDLE BLACK PROPAGANDA
A million million variations exist in dead agenting...
4. Handle the Level.
Handling interest level is basically an exercise in Tone Scale. (See
Tone Scale Charts of Human Emotion.)
Agreement occurs at the same emotional tone level as the person making
the statement. He buys his facts at that level.
To go half a tone up from his level is to command him within his zone
of reality.
STATEMENT: "It is hopeless trying to believe in anyone. I thought you
people were all right but now I hear you are all hippies. (In dull
apathy.)"
REBUTTAL: "Oh, oh, oh, who could have told you such a sad lie. (Sob)"
STATER: "Wouldn't be any use to say."
REBUTTER: "(Sob) But you've got to say. Oh, I feel so awful."
STATER: "Well, he wouldn't care if I told. It's the local minister."
REBUTTER: "(Sob) (Kleenex) What an awful thing to say. Just because
we found him dead drunk and took him home to sleep it off, and he said
if we ever told he'd say we're hippies."
STATER: "What a sad story. Oh, it's a bad world. How ungrateful."
You go half a tone up. Give him a story, on the subject or not ...
Another One.
STATEMENT: "I hear some bad things about your people. (Covert
hostility)"
REBUTTAL: "(Anger) Who would DARE say such things?"
Etc.
And story type can be matched in tone.
STATEMENT: "I hear those people stole some rowboats."
REBUTTAL: "Who said so?"
STATER: "The dockmasters son."
REBUTTAL: "Oh, him. Gets things wrong. OUR rowboat was stolen!
With all the gear in it. We were out fishing and . . . say, you don't
suppose HE stole it do you? Did you ever hear of him stealing
anything? Has he got a record?"
Well, this dockmaster's son will now "have a record" in the stater's
tales. As THEFT is of interest to him, crime will be also.
- ---end---
Further on... Hubbard had this to say:
- ---begin---
"People who engage in black propoganda have big bursting crimes to
hide. They do not have little crimes. They have BIG ones."
- ---end----
- ---begin----
The less handling, the more disastrous.
There is another hard-won truth.
ONLY COUNTERATTACK HANDLES.
- ---end----
Now... how important are facts in Dead Agenting?
Take a gander at this policy:
- ---------
HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 20 SEPTEMBER 1988
PR SERIES 32
DOCUMENTATION AND THE DEAD AGENT CAPER
(taken from tape 7007C30,
A SUCCINCT VIEW OF PR)
Refs:
HCO PL 11 May 71 III PR Series 7
BLACK PR
HCO PL 21 Nov. 72 I PR Series 18
HOW TO HANDLE BLACK PROPAGANDA
A PR should counter false reports with a minimum of documents or
evidence. Never give it a maximum hit. If you have 25 documents, use
one.
When somebody comes up with an outrageous lie, the PR has to think
right away, "How do I dead agent this? What document would it take to
knock this out?"
Per the dead agent caper, you want to know WHO told him that lie, and
you want a document that controverts what he is saying.
Then, using a minimum of documentation, you knock the informant into
total falsity.
L. RON HUBBARD
Founder
Compilation assisted by
LRH Technical Research and
Compilations
- ------------------
"This is the correct procedure:
1.Spot who is attacking us.
2.Start investigating them promptly for FELONIES or
worse using our own professionals, not outside agencies.
3.Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an
investigation of them.
4.Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on the
attackers to the press."
Don't ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it
rough, rough on attackers all the way.
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 25 Feb 1966 "Attacks on Scientology"
So folks, now you understand what the criminal organisation of
Scientology is up to. They are simply trying to cover up for their own
criminal actions in different countries.
BTW: Make a search on AltaVista for Lisa McPherson, you might even add
the words killed or murdered in the search. Read the relevant sites,
and ask yourself: who murdered Lisa McPherson?
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much, heard to much, lived too much. Security Coded hard disks
too much. Have been reading NOTS too much. Having chronic
pneumonia. As Arnold said: I'll be back......
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In article <61ck3r$q1b$1...@e4000.supernews.com>, wgert <wg...@loop.com> wrote:
>Joe Harrington <joe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Great lurid, juicy stuff! All the material that WGERT was posting was
>>stale and boring. stuff. Many thanks to OSA's creative writing
>>department, and keep it coming..
>
>>Joe
>
>I was most interested in the information about Woller$heim
>misappropriating FACTNet computer equipment in order to obtain a
>personal loan from his girlfriend.
Hey, How about that Hubbard. Abandons his wife and two kids after WWII
ends and he is cut lose.
Starts hanging around with black magician Jack Parsons, steal his girl and
rips Parson off for thousands of dollars.
Later As Hubbard is winding up his last PDC lectures, he was arrested for
the theft of a $9000.00 check from the Dieantics Foundation.
He spent his last days hiding from teh IRS and teh Justice Department,
after ripping off the IRS cheating on his taxes and ripping off
mission holders and other people who made the mistake of trusting this
thief.
Odd how you pass on little libels and lies and igore far worse thing that
pathological liar Hubbard did. And ignore the fact your lie and hate cult
has ripped Wollersheim off and cheating him out of $2.5 million.
Which thanks to interest is now close to $7,000,000.00.
And growing. Work harder Gertie! Miscavige is counting on you to give
him lots of money when this comes to a head and Co$ is forced to pay off
Wollersheim.
Still cheating and lying. The Co$ isn't any better than Hubbard the
thief and cheat.
Tell us about Fac One. Bap! Bap! Bap! that makes everybody laugh just to
think of it. Hubbard was a loonie and thoroughly dishonest too.
******************************************************************
Deadbeat L. Ron Hubbard
Bare Faced Messiah Russell Miller page 232
"Hubbard returned to Washington for Christmas (1958) but
in the New year he began making plans to move back to London
with his family. Pam and Ray Kemp wrote to say they were moving
and that their house in North London, on the Finchley Road in
Golders Green, would be available if Ron was looking for someplace
to live. The Hubbards - Ron, Mary, Sue, Diana aged 6, Quentin, 5,
Suzette, 4, and Arthur, 8 months - arrived in London at the end
of February and agreed to rent the Kemps' house in Golders Green.
"My daughter Suzanne was born on Ron's birthday", said Pam Kemp.
"Ron came over with a bright orange angora shawl for me. He said
everybody brings presents for the baby but everybody forgets it is
the mother that has beeen doing all the work, so he was bring a
present for the mother. That was typical of him."
"It was also typical that he stiffed us for the rent and he stiffed
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
the greengrocer. Before he moved in, the greengrocer on the other
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
side of the road asked us if he could trust the new tenants an we said
"Of course". Ron proceeded to run up a huge bill which he never paid. And
he never paid us any rent. We asked him dozens of times for the money.
He said to ask Mary Sue and she always said they didn't have any money.
Then one day Ron came over on his motorcycle, very excited, very pleased
with himself. He said, "guess what I've done?"
The Kemps were dumbfounded by their friend's news. He announced that
he had bought the Maharajah of Jaipur's estate in Sussex.
********************************************************************
More Deadbeat Ron Tales
Bare Faced Messiah Page 99
Like his father, Ron tended to be somewhat absent minded about
personal debts. while he was supervising the conversion of the YP-422
he was pursued by tailors in Brisbane and Washington DC for unpaid
uniform bills and he still owed $265 to the Bank of Ketchikan.
When the Alaskan bank reported Lieutenant Hubbard's debt to the
Bureau of Navigation in Washington, Ron wrote an indignent letter
to the cashier; 'You are again informed that the reason for non-payment
of this note is the sharp decrease in pay which I was willing to take
to help my country. Until this war is ended, I can only make small
and irregular payments'.
The implication was that Lieutenant Hubbard was far too busy fighting
a war to be bothered by trifling debts, but sadly, when the USS YP-422
set out on her shakedown cruise, Lieutenant Hubbard was not to be seen
onboard.
*******************************************************************
Mike O'Connor
In article <61ciup$o7q$2...@e4000.supernews.com>, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
> lep...@panix.com (Mike O'Connor) wrote:
[...]
> The cult
> >must know how poorly the tactics work in this day and age, but they are
> >required to follow them all, exactly, anyway. They are STUCK. And the
> >tactics stick out like a sore thumb. It's would be funny, if people
> >weren't being abused. But, abuse of people and the law is built into cult
> >scripture and they must follow the scriptures of the dead founder -
> >exactly. -Mike
>
> If DA tactics don't work in this day and age, why are you trying to
> "DA" the information in the post?
[...]
As usual, you are confused. You can't dead agent information, you can only
dead agent a SOURCE of information. Sheesh, I know this and I've never
even been a member of the thriving cult of greed and power! My message did
no dead agenting. Word clear "dead agent". -Mike
Gary Scarff
Tilman Hausherr wrote:
>
> In <61cjab$gfj$1...@usenet11.supernews.com>, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
>
> >Do you think that her profession is a totally normal type everyday
> >job?
>
> Yes. Her (alleged) business is the oldest one in the world. It has a
> tradition of thousands of years.
>
> --
> Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
> til...@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos
>
> Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.
>
> Find broken links on your web site with "Xenu's Link Sleuth":
> http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/xenulink.html
Oh, wgert. Lighten up, will you? You starting to sound like one of
those born-again Christians. You's all goin' to Hell if ya don't git on
yer knees & repent!!!
Gary Scarff
Blowing one's nose is more exciting and constructive than wasting time
on your zanie..
Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine
In article <344180c1...@news.snafu.de>,
>In <61cjab$gfj$1...@usenet11.supernews.com>, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
>
>>Do you think that her profession is a totally normal type everyday
>>job?
>
>Yes. Her (alleged) business is the oldest one in the world. It has a
>tradition of thousands of years.
well, if she *is* (allegedly) a whore at least she gives pleasure
and value for money, and is more use to the world than an OSA stooge.
|~/ |~/
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O | Who Drowned the Judge's Dog? | . . . . . . . '----. 0 | O
O | answers on *---|_______________ @__o0 | O
L |{a href="news:alt.religion.scientology"}{/a}_____________|/_______| L
and{a href="http://www.xemu.demon.co.uk/clam/lynx/q0.html"}{/a}XemuSP4(:)
Gregg Hagglund
>
>My question is is it true?
>
>wgert
Is it true that *you* masturbate with your left hand?
Is it true that you, RonsanIdiot and Jack Framer
do 'nasty' things together?
Where is the relevance to the Criminal Activities
of the Cult of Greed and Power?
Here are some truths:
LRH was a drunk.
LRH used drugs.
LRH beat his wife.
LRH was a bigamist.
LRH flunked out of University.
LRH lied about his exploits and education.
LRH appealed for disability from the US armed forces
on Dianetics Stationary.
These have all been rigorously documented.
What do you and the Co$ have to offer?
Lies and innuendo.
You are weak.
Annoying, yes.
But demonstrably weak and cowardly.
What is your real name?
You are no match for an SP like myself and others.
With all the millions of dollars and big name lawyers
to protect you and attack such as I, you hide.
My name is W.G.Hagglund
I reside at 2237 Munns Ave.,
Oakville, Ontario.
Canada
L6H 3M9
My phone is 905 844 6216 (Caller ID Active.)
I have no multinational corp to hide behind.
But I do have the power to be at cause, openly
and publicly, whenever I choose to, over the
Toronto Org.
And there is nothing you can do about it.
Nothing.
You are weak.
SPs are strong.
Coward, what is your name?
Saddened by your Degradation,
Gregg SP4
http://www.cgocable.net/~elrond
--
" I'm sure it's obvious to all who read my stuff, that I have
serious problems when it comes to being able to communicate."
- -RonsAmigo, Official OSA Shill on ARS
$cientology Lawyer Bait: Co$ cures Cancer?:
"Step Four - Cures for Illness You will now find BTs and clusters
being cures for illnesses of the body part. Handle all such BTs and
clusters by blowing them off. 'Cures for Illness' will then cease to read."
--- ררר L.R.Hubbard © ??? ---
Geoffrey Burling
On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:52:28 -0600, George...@rocketmail.com saith:
>
>ARS Week in Review inadvertently left off a few important stories
>in this week's issue. Therefore this addition is being issued so
>you can update your archives. This addendum contains several
>behind-the-scenes stories about the lives of some of the most
>popular ars posters.
>
Geez. I get bored with ARS, & drift away for a week, & look what
happens: a new DA pack gets posted. Wollerheim is accused of
embezzling funds. Margaret Huffstickler is accused of being a whore.
Keith Henson is accused of child abuse. And that evil Robert Young is
accused of rescuing kittens from being put to sleep!
Ya know, I wonder what people might think if they belonged to an
organization that contributed to the death by neglect of a young girl
in Florida. Some people might think that a felony is far more serious
than saving the lives of kittens.
Join the Church of Scientology today & save the world! First they'll
rid us of those unwanted kittens, & next they'll rid us of those
unwanted Supressive persons!
Geoff
Olympic-Class Bore
Return address altered to foil spambots. Change ``cyberpromo"
to``agora", & your email will reach me.
roger gonnet
wgert wrote:
>
> I was most interested in the information about Woller$heim
> misappropriating FACTNet computer equipment in order to obtain a
> personal loan from his girlfriend. I'll bet she has sunk a lot of
> money into supporting Woller$heim. This must be how he is supporting
> himself without having a job! He takes in donations, buys computer
> equipment and then uses it as collateral for a personal loan. Nice
> going Wolly.
We, ars anti-scieno are very interested to know that the Kriminal kultie
Wkert is so stupidly arguing about someone which has a 6,5 millions
cerdit account into kriminal Kult!
DeoMorto
wgit posted:>>> You deny that Lisa McPherson died at Flag. Then your own
> to the public show otherwise.
Again not true. You know even less about this.<<
Oh well done Wgit - you finally admitted that she died at Flag.
Cramming coming your way...
Joe Harrington
wgert wrote:
>
S
> I would like to thank whoever wrote the Addendum. This is good stuff.
>
Pat yourself on your back then.
Joe
DeoMorto
The git posted>>I would say that with the stuff that is going on at FACTNet,
the ax is
going to fall on FACTNet:<<
well i don't know, you could even be right about it but for a "church" that
has the following little gems in its history:
Public at London org who paid for her auditing by prostitution, SO staff member
at AOLA who supplemented her rather meagre income by doing "favors" of a
sexual nature, or indeed the Flag Rep who made a nice income with nude
dancing.
Running currency in suitcases across Lake Como to avoid currency exchange
regulations
Lying to the INS regarding the status of people coming to the USA to work for
the church.
I would have thought it in your best interests to avoid that type of exposure.
Gunbunny
On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:25:43 GMT, xe...@mindspring.com (Rob Clark),
<34397362...@news.mindspring.com> wrote :
>On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:52:28 -0600, George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
>
>[crap]
>
>what repugnant shit!
>
>rob
I often wonder if Rob suffers from short term memory loss?
Keith
Alan Barclay
In article <61d7q3$a...@netaxs.com>, Rod Keller <rke...@netaxs.com> wrote:
>for an hour or two a week. Most of the people who tell me Week in Review
>is the only way to keep up-to-date on Scientology in the time they have
>available are email subscribers, who would obviously never see this
>addendum. There are more than 400 of these currently.
I'm sure that there are many hundreds or thousands more who read them on
ars or on one of the web archives.I know I personally look forward to
the weekly arswir even in those rare weekes where I've managed to keep
up, as it is always showing me articles which I find interesting but
I've not yet read.
Tilman Hausherr
>> You are suing Grady Ward but have no proof that he is Scamizdat.
>
>Not true. You haven't been reading the newsgroup closely.
Oh, wgert (or "George Worthy"), quick! Bring it to court! All the time
scientology failed to allege or produce the evidence, so that even Judge
Whyte (!) said that it is not enough.
MikeSmith3
On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:52:28 -0600, On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:52:28 -0600,
George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
>
>ARS Week in Review inadvertently left off a few important
>stories in this week's issue. Therefore this addition is being
>issued so you can update your archives. This addendum
>contains several behind-the-scenes stories about the lives
>of some of the most popular ars posters.
>
George,
The ARSCC "think tank" has evolved some semi-opposable rules of thumb. The
first of these deals with the "lots of responses".
-----------------------------
Rule of Thumb #1:
Knee-Jerk Responses:
If your posts are getting lots of responses then you
know you are being effective.
----------------------------
Joe Harrington
No, not effective, justing BORING :-(
OSA, give us more bread and circuses!
Joe
Joe Harrington
Gary Scarff wrote:
>
> Tilman Hausherr wrote:
> >
> > In <61cjab$gfj$1...@usenet11.supernews.com>, wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
> >
> > >Do you think that her profession is a totally normal type everyday
> > >job?
> >
> > Yes. Her (alleged) business is the oldest one in the world. It has a
> > tradition of thousands of years.
> >
> > Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP4]
> > til...@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/#cos
> >
> > Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.
> >
> > Find broken links on your web site with "Xenu's Link Sleuth":
> > http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/xenulink.html
>
> those born-again Christians. You's all goin' to Hell if ya don't git on
> yer knees & repent!!!
WGERT is still a virgin.
Joe
Rob Clark
mikes...@aol.com (MikeSmith3) wrote:
>Rule of Thumb #1:
>Knee-Jerk Responses:
>If your posts are getting lots of responses then you
>know you are being effective.
>----------------------------
i will comment that this is an excellent rule of thumb, at least as
long as one has one's thumb up one's ass.
generally, if your posts are getting lots of responses, it is because
you are being an incredible asshole, while believing yourself to be
incredibly popular.
this is not true. an extreme popular opinion usually means that the
popular opinion of you is that you are an asshole. people who
successfully ridicule your assholery, you know, those people usually
following up to you, now those people are generally popular.
at least among the crowds who like to make fun of assholes.
to the poor people trying to conduct a discussion in a newsgroup, you
are an asshole, all the people following up to you are assholes, and
the whole thread is an asshole shitting out the material which might,
before various assholes trod in rough-shod, have made a discussion.
actually, anyone who has followed a newsgroup knows this for certain.
get a threading newsreader, strn is nice, agent is tolerable, anything
that doesn't trash threads at your whim is worthless.
here is the Real Deal.
the best posts on a newsgroup get no responses at all.
Silence is Golden.
the complex scientific and demonic reasons which explain this are
things which i understand for certain. unfortunately, this 80-column
margin is too small to contain the proof.
rob
Dweeb999
On 7 Oct 1997 00:55:17 -0700, Arnie Lerma wrote:
<snip>
It seems Arnie is the one putting LSD on his toothbrush
because he's hallunicating again all by himself. However
Arnie will probably claim someone figured out how to
send [LSDtrip.zip] via e-mail attachment.
>chanting the mantra...
>
>Exterminate the Suppresives!
>
>Exterminate the Suppresives!
>
>Exterminate the Suppresives!
>
>Exterm- (ouch) they stubbed thier toe trying to
>digest Lerma...and the net,
>
>1.7 million in litigation and he's still there! No he's here!
>
>man, he is everywhere!
>
>Exterminate his friends!
>
>Exterminate his friends!
>
>Sorry scumbags, they are with me and
>
>my friends are gonna be tough chew too...
>
>And if you think I gave you indigestion already,
>
>you obviously haven't heard the news....
>
>Arnie Lerma
>
David Gerard
On Wed, 08 Oct 1997 07:37:10 GMT,
Rob Clark <xe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
:actually, anyone who has followed a newsgroup knows this for certain.
:get a threading newsreader, strn is nice, agent is tolerable, anything
:that doesn't trash threads at your whim is worthless.
I converted someone to slrn. I told 'em to go to news.software.readers
and find where to get the Win95 version and try it out, just try it out,
for a while.
He's hooked.
There's something *utterly* addictive about regular-expression scorefiling,
rather than simple kill/watch.
:here is the Real Deal.
:the best posts on a newsgroup get no responses at all.
:Silence is Golden.
:the complex scientific and demonic reasons which explain this are
:things which i understand for certain. unfortunately, this 80-column
:margin is too small to contain the proof.
They do get responses. These responses are measured in e-mail appplause
and showing up on Web pages.
--
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/scn/ http://www.suburbia.net/~fun/scn/
I hereby encourage all earthlink.net users to leave for a provider whose
email and Usenet messages are not boycotted by the rest of the net, and
for ISPs to continue to block earthlink.net email and Usenet messages from
Earthlink, until earthlink.net *stop* the flow of junk email and spam.
Cat O'Blivion
In article <8761597...@dejanews.com>, George...@rocketmail.com says...
<snip of content-free dead agent pack>
Wow. I can remember when dead agent packs were actually venomous and
mean-spirited. Now it seems that the best the "Church" can haul out are
allegations about suspicious tax forms and a report on the professional
activities of MargaretH ,or whatever her nick-du-jour may be. You'd think the
CoS would know by now to leave the issue of tax-exept status alone. And does
anyone out there really care what Margaret does for a living?
The "attack" on Robert Vaughn Young is just silly. I mean, it's pretty hard to
paint someone in a bad light for doing animal rescue work. Such villainy! It's
not exactly effective dead-agenting when the worst that can be said about
someone is that they're willing to break zoning codes to save animals' lives.
And as for the section on Keith Henson, one would think that Scientology, which
espouses the dubious "Purification Rundown" among other pseudo-scientific
remedies, might be a little more cautious about labelling anyone else's beliefs
as:
>oddball unproven pseudo-scientific fads.
It's almost enough to make one wax nostalgic for the days of Vera Wallace and
Andy Milne. Now _those_ were dead agent packs.
Cat
SP4, KoX
"Coast to coast with the holy ghost"
Martin Hunt
In article <343b36ae...@news.mindspring.com>,
xe...@mindspring.com (Rob Clark) wrote:
>the best posts on a newsgroup get no responses at all.
True fact, with two exceptions: 1) where positive accolade is the
the response to the post, and 2) where an extensive DA attack is
made on the person by the Scientology shills as a result of the post.
Both of these may be taken as "well dones" on any post. Of course,
corrections are always nice; they mean the person reads what you
say carefully enough to want to ensure that what is said is factual;
take a bow, henri. :-)
ttyl,
martin.
--
Cogito, ergo sum. Use "Xenu" in Subject: line of email.
Garry Scarff
Gunbunny <Gun_...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<343bd186...@nntp.lightlink.com>...
So what if it's true? I'd be curious how many of our elected officials in
DC pay for sensual services throughout their careers? Hell, Barney Frank
had a live-in sex hound for years.
>
>
Garry Scarff
Joe Harrington <joe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<61dj37$p...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
> wgert wrote:
> >
> > Joe Harrington <joe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ARS Week in Review inadvertently left off a few important stories
> > >> in this week's issue. Therefore this addition is being issued so
> > >> you can update your archives. This addendum contains several
> > >> behind-the-scenes stories about the lives of some of the most
> > >> popular ars posters.
> >
> > >Great lurid, juicy stuff! All the material that WGERT was posting was
> > >stale and boring. stuff. Many thanks to OSA's creative writing
> > >department, and keep it coming..
> > Someone ought to turn him in to the IRS for this one.
> >
> > wgert
> > Read the Rogues Gallery of ARS Bigots
> > www.dancris.com/~rshaw
>
> Diane Richardson made similar allegations and I suggested she notify the
> IRS if she thought her charges had some basis in fact. She never said
> if she did. I'd suggest you do the same.
>
> Joe
I doubt it, Joe. The IRS is too busy investigating internal abuses right
now!
>
Nots1
Cat O'Blivion <c...@spamblock.brc.ubc.ca> saith:
>In article <8761597...@dejanews.com>, >George...@rocketmail.com
says...
><snip of content-free dead agent pack>
<snip>
> And does
>anyone out there really care what Margaret does for a living?
I think you missed the point. As I understand it, DA packs are not intended to
entertain and inform arsers, but to intimidate, harass, and hopefully silence
the subject of the DA pack.
Gary Scarff
Rebecca Hartong wrote:
>
> In article <343AA03D...@taniwha.com>, Taniwha <tan...@taniwha.com> wrote:
>
> >I think that the reason why many of us are here is because we care
> >deeply about the joint issues of freedom of speech and privacy
> >on the internet. What we have here is wgert publishing things
> >about people that whether or not it's true it's PRIVATE.
> >That's right whether (or not) two people go to bed together is
> >NONE OF OUR BUSINESS - it's none of wgert-slime's either, his
> >only reason for publishing his crap IS TO HURT PEOPLE...
>
> I think it's interesting--and amusing--how badly wgert and other
> Scientologists have misread the critics on a.r.s.
>
> The allegations of people having <gasp!> SEX with one another is a
> 1950s era shocker. Does anyone who live through the 60s (or anyone
> who was born in the 60s or 70s...jeez, I'm getting old) really care
> about who's doing the wild thing with whom? No.
>
> The allegations of child abuse are likewise not particularly shocking.
> Any intelligent adult (and most a.r.s. regulars fit into that
> category--but don't quote me on this ;-)) has heard enough stories
> about false accusations of child abuse to be extremely suspicious when
> someone like wgert (or Fishman or Scarff for that matter) starts
> tossing them around.
Ahh, the cunt comes out of her shell again looking for some celebrity.
Won't get here though.
Bernie
"Garry Scarff" <Sca...@iag.net> wrote in article
<01bcd45b$40c38880$6de0a1cd@scaarf> (alt.religion.scientology):
>> Yes, wgert asshole: did your fucking kriminal kult ever gave any 990
>> reports? Even IRS, which seems now as Kriminal an affair as when the
>> Kult said so (see what the officers said some days ago), is protecting
>> kriminal kult and does not send the 990 forms I've asked for scamtology
>> tchurdch! so, i see you are in sort "corroborating" the fact that you
>> keep on accusing everybody else of the Krimes your fucKing Krikrit
>> tchurdch is Kommiting, overtly or covertly!
>> You are a funcking asshole, and what you deserve is being fucKed in
>> jail, like you small chief kriminal missKavige. Get to hell, poor worm.
>Oh, yeah. This is great. Killfile Scarff but support mentally unstable
>minions like this? If this is the breed of cat ARS wants on here,
>Scientology has absolutely nothing to worry about when reading these posts.
> I'm curious whether Roger received any education at all or spend all his
>life on the streets. Ick!!
There is some truth in that.
I must say this was rather hilarious. It "materializes"
the more subtle stupidity of other "critics".
I particularly like this bit:
the Krimes your fucKing Krikrit tchurdch is
Kommiting.
Anyway, Roger did made some progress in English since he
first started to post here. He becomes almost legible.
Bernie
Paul
Rebecca Hartong wrote:
> I think it's interesting--and amusing--how badly wgert and other
> Scientologists have misread the critics on a.r.s.
>
> The allegations of people having <gasp!> SEX with one another is a
> 1950s era shocker. Does anyone who live through the 60s (or anyone
> who was born in the 60s or 70s...jeez, I'm getting old) really care
> about who's doing the wild thing with whom? No.
At first, I agreed with you completely when I read the dead-agenting
pack. I found it amusing that the OSA stooge-of-the-day thought we
would be enturbulated by the accounts of alleged indiscretions amonst
a.r.s. regulars. I also found it disgusting that a "religion" has an
official policy of just such tactics.
On further reflection, though, I can't help wondering if the DA pack was
designed more to silence critics (and potential critics) than to
discredit the people it was specifically directed at. I wonder if it
wasn't more a message of: "if you criticize us, we will investigate you
and dead-agent you." They've only done that in the past with their
long-time critics (e.g., Erlich, Young, Wollersheim, etc.); now they're
doing it to lower-profile critics (Margaret, for God's sake?).
The thought of being investigated and dead-agented would almost
certainly make quite a few people uncomfortable. It would quite
possibly make them think twice about actively protesting against the
abuses of the Church of Scientology[tm].
-Paul
Rebecca Hartong
>On further reflection, though, I can't help wondering if the DA pack was
>designed more to silence critics (and potential critics) than to
>discredit the people it was specifically directed at. I wonder if it
>wasn't more a message of: "if you criticize us, we will investigate you
>and dead-agent you." They've only done that in the past with their
>long-time critics (e.g., Erlich, Young, Wollersheim, etc.); now they're
>doing it to lower-profile critics (Margaret, for God's sake?).
You make a good point. Maybe it was never intended to enturbulate the
masses... but rather to just freak out the individuals who were
singled out.
I've wondered, too, whether the real target of the Margaret stuff
wasn't Arnie. Margaret just happened to be in the way...
There's never been any love lost between me and Margaret, but she
surely didn't deserve this.
Rebecca Hartong
************************************************************
"One unerring mark of the love of truth is not entertaining
any proposition with greater assurance than the proofs it is
built upon will warrant." --John Locke
William Barwell
In article <19971009205...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,****************** Deleted ******************
>
>I think you missed the point. As I understand it, DA packs are not intended to
> entertain and inform arsers, but to intimidate, harass, and hopefully silence
> the subject of the DA pack.
>
Gee, I keep hoping some day to be DA'd by the cult.
Besides a few halting attempts by Vera, ... nothing.
I feel so left out.
Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Slack!
William Barwell
In article <61ck3r$q1b$1...@e4000.supernews.com>, wgert <wg...@loop.com> wrote:
>Joe Harrington <joe...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
>I was most interested in the information about Woller$heim
I am interested in David Miscavige and how he managed to
set up BPI to award himself a bonus based on a percentage
of sales of all materials sold by BPI. Which apparently was
some millions by th eearly 90's or so.
Mindf you, Scientology (who as TRC chairman Dm sets policy for), had
policies of scam 'sales' of such books as Dianetics. 'Buying'
Dianetics by the case load at bookstores and then returning these books
to BPI warehouses for resale to other bookstores, a trick often
given away when a store recieved cases of Dienatics with another
bookstore's price stickers still on them.
Of course, DM collected his 'sales' bonus.
Which would be legally what is called 'inurement'.
>
>Someone ought to turn him in to the IRS for this one.
>
I hope the IRS someday, when they stop lying about the Scientology
IRS tax exemption and the current legal trials with Tax Associates Inc vs
IRS come to an end, investigates Miscavige and CoSs inurement scheme
thoroughly.
Inurment of this type is illegal, it alone should cost CoS it's tax
exemption, and DM to be heavily fined and of course, I hope DM paid his
taxes on his ill gotten gains.
William Barwell
In article <61cjab$gfj$1...@usenet11.supernews.com>, wgert <wg...@loop.com> wrote:
>har...@erols.com (Rebecca Hartong) wrote:
>
>>In article <8761597...@dejanews.com>, George...@rocketmail.com wrote:
>
>>>This behind-the-scenes report concerns Margaret Huffstickler...
>
>>Margaret? MARGARET?!?!
>>I can understand the attacks on Henson, Young & Wollersheim. They've
>>all put major hurts on Scientology. But-- Margaret?!? You couldn't
>>ask for a more inoffensive critic of Scientology.
>
>Yes, but she sure has a strange occupation. I thought it was quite
>interesting, particularly her relationship with Arnie Lerma. I'll have
>to ask Russ Shaw to add it to the bigots web page.
Ahh, nothing like libels and lies from this furious hate cult.
Hate, hate, hate, hate.
Time to hate Margaret. Hate hate hate.
Hate cult.
This is a religions, it's furious hate mongering is what you do when
you are a real religion?
No, this hate mongering from an official opertaive of this cult,
William Gertler, shows, this cult is not a real religion, it is just a
cult.
Yes, cult PR spinners keep trying to convince the world Stupidology is a
Real Religion. Then some OSA operative or tool of OSA like Gertie will
show us proof, hard evidence, that Stupidology is only a cult.
And a hate cult at that.
Gertie proves Stupidology is as hateful, irresponsible, nasty,
and as vicious as its worst critics claim. You read his hate cult
hate mongering and your mouth hangs open in surprise. So much hate, so
many lies, libels, so much hate mongering.
They are as bad as the critics say!
THAT'S why they call it a cult and no religion.
And that is why Stupidology quickly becomes utterly despised by anybody
who has any dealings with this cult or it's members, no matter how
fleeting or peripheral.
The reeking hate that is this cult's most distinguishing characteristic
soon shines through and cannot be ignored.
Thanks Gertie, for showing us what Scientology is really all about.
Every once in awhile we need somebody like you on the net to show us
Scientology's true colors.
Thanks for proving the critics right, Gertie.
Yavo Lem
Slander is such a cheap commoditity, and those who use it are, well, pathetic.
Basically, they have to look up to look down.
It is even sadder to see them feeding on their own "dreck".
YL
Bernie
no...@aol.com (Nots1) wrote in article
<19971009205...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
(alt.religion.scientology):
>I think you missed the point. As I understand it, DA packs are not intended to
> entertain and inform arsers, but to intimidate, harass, and hopefully silence
> the subject of the DA pack.
That's not the original intent of the DA pack. Check the CoS
policies on the subject.
Bernie
NoScieno
In article <19971010161...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
yav...@aol.com (Yavo Lem) writes:
Very well said, Yavo. After all these years it's apparently still a
useful PR tactic that the Co$ has no intention of abandoning, despite its
potential for a backlash in defamation lawsuits and proven tendency to
repel potential recruits. At least in this case it seems that they
succeeded in driving Margaret off the group (for a while anyway).
Personally I think it's one of the lamest DA packs I've ever seen -- and a
very unconvincing impersonation of ARSWIR. If I were an IGS $cn, I'd be
embarrased to be associated with such practices.
I've seen your nick on the AOL Co$ boards, haven't I? Welcome. A small
newcomer tip: It is well to quote portions of the post you are responding
to. Given the long and sometimes rambling threads, and especially the
often erratic propagation of posts, the date/time stamp cannot be counted
on to keep things in order (as it does on the AOL boards). See the Usenet
FAQs, etc.
Going by the Message ID in the References header, this is the message to
which your comments were addressed:
|>
|>In article <8761597...@dejanews.com>, George...@rocketmail.com
|>wrote:
|>
|>>This behind-the-scenes report concerns Margaret Huffstickler...
|>
|>Margaret? MARGARET?!?!
|>I can understand the attacks on Henson, Young & Wollersheim. They've
|>all put major hurts on Scientology. But-- Margaret?!? You couldn't
|>ask for a more inoffensive critic of Scientology.
|>
|>Weird.
|>
|>Well, for whatever it's worth, whatever Margaret's profession is, it
|>certainly doesn't make her any more or less effective as a critic of
|>Scientology. I mean--really--who the hell cares?
|>
|>What a strange post.
|>
|>Rebecca Hartong
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NoScieno
In article <343ad0b6...@nntp.lightlink.com>, Gun_...@hotmail.com
(Gunbunny) writes:
>Your really killing me, Alec. Are you the head of the ARSCC Humor Division
He who laughs alone, dies laughing.
wgert
Arnie Lerma wrote:
> wg...@loop.com says... [ nothing of substance as usual, move over fool ]
>Scientology(tm) and its bait & switch front man, Dianetics(tm)
>Run by the Lord of the Drones - David Miscavige
>Master of the technology(tm) of Mental Manipulation...
>The techniques used in Room 101 from Orweill's 1984
>The programming language for the Dalek Empire..
>Lurching hords of pompous buffoons...
>chanting the mantra...
>Exterminate the Suppresives!
>Exterminate the Suppresives!
>Exterminate the Suppresives!
>Exterm- (ouch) they stubbed thier toe trying to digest Lerma...and the net,
>1.7 million in litigation and he's still there! No he's here!
>man, he is everywhere!
>Exterminate his friends!
>Exterminate his friends!
>Sorry scumbags, they are with me and
>my friends are gonna be tough chew too...
>And if you think I gave you indigestion already,
>you obviously haven't heard the news....
>Arnie Lerma
>See http://www.lermanet.com for the true nature of the Fraud called $cientology
>And send money to the critic of your choice today...
>Do it to fight the FRAUD of $cientology...
>Another is born every day... PT Barnum
>(Hubbard was a big fan of PT Barnum)
You've proven it. You are a complete lunatic. I'm convinced.
From the guy who found LSD on his toothbrush.
You're quite a piece of work.
rgonnet
Gary Scarff wrote:
> RonsAmigo wrote:
> >
> > Garry Scarff wrote re: Roger Gonnet
> >
> > >
> > >Oh, yeah. This is great. Killfile Scarff but support mentally >unstable
> > >minions like this? If this is the breed of cat ARS wants on here,
> > >Scientology has absolutely nothing to worry about when reading >these posts.
> > > I'm curious whether Roger received any education at all or >spend all his
> > >life on the streets. Ick!!
> >
> > Roger has won the coveted title "ARS Village Idiot", Gary,
> > and given the stiff competition on ARS, this is no small feat.
> > Show a little respect please.
> >
> > Amigo
>
> You might have to translate this to Gonnet you know. He's a Frenchman
> with a 3rd grade education.
Dont' care to do that, scraffts and amigos wgert...
i am not able to read anything from your posts most of time, as i don't open them.
Just one to roftlmao from time to time, on your backs!
I've no education at all, especially in scieno's matters. That's why they are so
busy trying to get something about me, and trying to sue me etc. Your own posts
just show the following fact: OSA is quite interested at closing my big mouth! So,
keep on givong me ars village idiot's titles, i like it much coming from scieno's
village idiots. The most you cast words after me and some others, the more we roll
our asses on the floor.
As we say in french: "Rira bien qui rira le dernier" (Will well laugh, the one
which will laugh the last)
Roger