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Mike O'Connor  
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 More options Mar 6 1998, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: lep...@panix.com (Mike O'Connor)
Date: 1998/03/06
Subject: Re: HUBBARD ORDERED MURDERS

In article <34FF784B.1FE0A...@sky.net>, "Bob \"Da Sloth\" Bingham"

<sl...@sky.net> wrote:
> That's one of the very few posts from Wednesday that made it to me.  Musta
> had a nasty server problem here yesterday.  But anyway....

> What is this R2-45 order?  Announcing annonymously that it means to shoot the
> person is one thing, but I would want some serious evidence to back that kind
> of statement up.  Is there a scanned copy on the web?  Affidavits declaring
> the nature of this order?

The document "PRELIMINARY REPORT TO THE CLEARWATER CITY COMMISSION RE: THE
POWER OF A MUNICIPALITY TO REGULATE ORGANIZATIONS CLAIMING TAX EXEMPT OR
NON-PROFIT STATUS" includes this passage:

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"R2-45"

   Despite the general exposure of many Scientology practice
policies and attacks in the media over the past several years,
resulting primarily from the F.B.I. 's seizure of documents
fro Scientology headquarters, there exists in Hubbard's twisted
mind and writings a little known policy called "R2-45" [garbled]
in the book, "The Creation of Human Ability - A Handbook of Scientology"
written by Hubbard and distributed by the Church of Scientology
of California, the following quote appears:

"R2-45 - an enormously effective process for exteriorization,
but its use is frowned upon by this society at this time."

   "Exteriorization", in Scientology policy is death. The policy
refers to shooting a person in the head. In a short internal
Scientology memorandum called "Racket Exposed", Hubbard attacks
a number of individuals, subjects them to the "Fair Game" doctrine,
and states as follows:

"Any Sea Organization member contacting any of them is to use
auditing process R2-45"

It is unknown to the authors of this Report whether the process
was used on those individuals.

   During a meeting of Scientologists in Phoenix, Arizona,
in 1954, Hubbard demonstrated the R2-45 auditing process by
firing a shot into the floor during the middle of the meeting.
There is some evidence to suggest that between 1975 and 1977,
during the F.B.I. investigation of Scientology, meetings of
Scientology executives were held in which there were discussion
relative to auditing high level F.B.I. members with auditing
process R2-45.

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In the book "Religion Inc." (Stuart Lamont, 1986) it says:

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  However, in 1952 the phoenix had yet to arise from the ashes of the
HDRF in Wichita. Hubbard took himself off literally to the town of
Phoenix, Arizona, and opened a centre there in March 1952. He trav-
elled in September of that year to England to lecture in London and
returned again in January to find interest in his theories increasing. In
between these visits he delivered the famous Philadelphia Doctorate
Lectures (1-19 December 1952). These are still for sale on cassette by
the Church of Scientology at over $2000 for the set and include
Hubbard's notorious reference to the R2-45 process for exteriorisation.
In plain language, it means that someone can be released from their
body by shooting them with a Colt '45, which Ron proceeded to
demonstrate by firing a revolver into the floor of the podium.

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In the L.A. Times, August 28, 1978 by Robert Rawitch and Robert Gillette
it says:

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Scientology Critics Assail Aggressiveness of Church

"If anyone is getting industrious trying to enturbulate (sic) or stop
Scientology or its activities, I can make Captain Bligh look like a
Sunday-school teacher.  There is probably no limit on what I would do to
safeguard Man's only road to freedom against persons who ... seek to stop
Scientology or hurt Scientologists."   -- L. Ron Hubbard, Aug. 15, 1967

[...]

Equally misunderstood, the church contends, is a controversial Hubbard
dictum label "R2-45," which the church's enigmatic founder never has
chosen to elaborate.  The dictum comes from Hubbard's book "The Creation
of Human Ability" and reads: "R2-45: An enormously effective process for
exteriorization but its use is frowned upon by this society at this time."

Exteriorization, in Scientology terminology, is the ability of the mind,
or "thetan" to physically leave the body.

A number of former Scientologists who are now critics of the church assert
that R2-45 is meant to authorize killing its antagonists with a
.45-calibre pistol.

Church spokesman Jeffrey Dubron, of the principal American Church of
Scientology in Los Angeles, says "it was only a joke."

There is no evidence that R2-45 has ever been carried out, nor is there
any indication Scientologists have ever, as a matter of policy, physically
harmed anyone.

There is, however, abundant evidence that the church has sought -- and to
a significant extent succeeded -- to suppress criticism of Scientology, in
part by simply promulgating policies such as fair game and R2-45 and also
by the church's quickness to file civil and even criminal charges against
its critics.

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-Mike


 
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