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From: "banchukita" <banchuk...@yahoo.com>
Date: 15 Jan 2007 06:31:56 -0800
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Subject: Re: The Real Power in Scientology - DM's Lies

SME wrote:
> I have been doing some study of testimony/documents signed by DM under
> penalty of perjury. They contain many lies.

> Although my recent posts have not been showing up on here in my
> profile, including ones about getting non Hubbard writings out of
> organized scientology, I recently wrote one clearly showing one of the
> lies he made in a declaration regarding his statement that he was not
> involved in the early 80s "church" corporate sortout.

This is very enlightening. However, I easily found your original post
about nonHub writings, reposted here:

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I can shed some light on the below postings.

>From around early 82 through much of 83 a huge task was undertaken

within "the church" to get all non Hubbard writings out of "church"
orgs and missions.

The movement was lead by Hubbard himself and, through him, DM.

The "Policy" used was "Vital Data on Promotion" where Hubbard says
there can be no works but his own used. He said that doing so "would
end freedom for the planet".

All kinds of investigations and missions were fired to find out how non

Hubbard works had gotten into organized scientology. This included
missions to Minshul herself (then in Michigan I believe). The
missionaires reported that Minshul herself was disaffected from and
wanted nothing more to do with scientology. This was reported to
Hubbard who said that the only book of hers that he even saw was
"Miracles for Breakfast" but Minshul produced Hubbard's signed
approvals for the other books.

All kinds of things were found and that included just how each work was

gotten into an organization.

There were so many non Hubbard works that one copy of each made a pile
a couple feet high over a huge "board room sized" desk in Special
Unit's conference room. The books included all kinds of things like
Minshul's works, "the "Common Sense Management Series". "How to Make
Money", etc., etc.

The walls of the Special Unit conference room were filled with charts
showing how each work got into the organizations (things like someone
agreeing with SMI to purchase an expensive "Mission Starter Package" if

their book could be distributed by Bridge Publications).

Other things were found that "horrified" Hubbard and DM such as the
continental liaison offices themselves forwarding the line that DMSMH
(the main Dianetics book) was too complicated and so Minshul books
should be used to get new people in.

Special Unit did the investigations and then DM and his "Finance
Police" and the like took over and starting blowing people out of the
water broadly and in a big way. People were declared, "gang bang sec
checked", RPFed and the like right up to and including WDC level.

DM in court says Hubbard was off the lines at that time but that was
totally false. Special Unit wrote to him weekly and got his orders
weekly on this matter and so did other sectors.

This was part of the big power push that also included getting "all non

Hubbard tech" out of missions and orgs and people found pushing "non
LRH" things ("de dinging",  "power flows", etc) were similarly blown
away using declares and many abuses by "the Finance Policy" and others
run by CMO.

The spitting on staff on the RPF at Int started in a big way with DM
and other goons that felt they had to follow him as part of the above.
Hubbard himself wrote asking that they (even the WDC members over SMI,
Bridge, etc.) be spit on for their "letting this happen".

"External influence" missions were then fired to all continents where
there were orgs to follow up on "the handlings". Abuses became rampant
and widespread.

There was a huge push to "get people jailed" for this by DM and it did
not even matter if they were "guilty" of anything. DM and Hubbard
wanted "heads on pikes" and the Int Finance Policy carried out hundreds

of abuses on all kinds of people, screaming in their faces, gang bang
sec checks, etc. trying to find evidence of "crimes" for which they
could be jailed.

The entire thing was run by DM, using Hubbard orders he got based on
information he was sending to Hubbard.

It was so crazy that Special Unit itself had to jump in on a number of
occasions to try to stop harassment actions and stop attempts to get
innocent people jailed.

The "excuse" used for all these abuses was that it was being
"unreasonable" with squirreling and was "saving scientology". WDC
itself put out an issue that praised the Int Finance Police for saving
scientology for carrying out actions like the above.

That was total bull. It was the worst on a long, long list of wholesale

human rights abuses. And guess what, it got everything out of missions
and orgs for which Hubbard was NOT receiving royalties!

DM says he was in ASI and had nothing to do with this as he was busy in

ASI and he says Hubbard was "off the lines". Both statements are
totally false. They ran it! ASI had its own "gang bang sec checks".

DM felt that the new "impregnable" corporate structure made it possible

to take such control and would mask the real controls. He will find
himself wrong about that.

Anyway, the above is a summation of the true story of what happened
with getting non Hubbard works out of missions and orgs. There are
many, many more details to this but the above sums it up.

SME

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>Andreas Heldal-Lund - www.xenu.net wrote:
>> Received this by e-mail:
>> [START]
>> During a brief period in the '70s I attended meetings at a Cos
>> center, bought books and considered joining but didn't. I
>> recollect that Jonathan Livingston Seagull (ISBN 0-380-01286-3),
>> written by Richard Bach was promoted and distributed by CoS
>> after it was released in 1970.
>I don't know about this particular book, but many Scientology orgs sold
>How to Choose Your People by Ruth Minshull and a number of other
>self-help and success books by Scientologists. Missions sold pretty
>much whatever they wanted.
>I don't know about this particular book, but many Scientology orgs sold
>How to Choose Your People by Ruth Minshull and a number of other
>self-help and success books by Scientologists. Missions sold pretty
>much whatever they wanted. This post by Warrior lists many, and says
>the practice was prohibited in 1983.
>http://warrior.xenu.ca/1997-0725.html
_____
>I also promised to get the issue which cancelled the sale of
>non-LRH books. I found that too. The issue is WDC ED 133 of 21
>February 1983 (seven months before I said "FUCK YOU, $CIENTOLOGY!!"
>and resigned). It is entitled "WITHDRAWAL OF NON LRH BOOKS BEING
>SOLD IN ORGS & MISSIONS".

Copies of "How to Choose Your People" sold on Ebay:
http://tinyurl.com/uyodg
[sale specifics/no bookcover/photo]
snip>
Winning bid:US $26.00
Ended:  Jan-03-07 20:13:50 PST "
Large view:
http://tinyurl.com/w9c5q
Hardcover w/Jacket [1st Edition/1972]
http://tinyurl.com/vkgxh
Large View:
http://tinyurl.com/t9tf2
[tone scale on cover: 0.0[death] to 4.0[enthusiasm]]
snip>
Between 1968 and 1982, Ruth Minshull's many brilliant books were sold
by
Scientology Organizations. Her goal was to introduce as many people as
possible to Scientology by showing practical applications and giving
down-to-earth explanations. After 1982, a decision was made to only
sell
books by L. Ron Hubbard himself and compilations made by the
Organization itself to insure that the Technology was kept pure and
unadulterated as possible. This book is no longer considered valid
Scientology literature by the Church. Never-the-less, Ruth Minshull
will
be fondly remembered by many old-timers as their first, practical and
easily digestible introduction to Scientology. Ruth Minshull's booklist

includes: What is Scientology?, Efficiency, How to Choose Your People,
Miracles for Breakfast, When in Doubt, Communicate, What Every Preclear

Should Know, All the Happiness, and How to Cure the Selfish Destructive

Child. Her non-Scientology related books include: Logic Puzzles, Free
Money! How to Win Sweepstakes According to the Judges and The Secrets
of
Making Layouts for Quick Printing. "
"How to Choose Your Trout Mask Replica"
[0.0 trout death /to/ 4.0 trout enthusiasm

> I wanted to make this post to give what I think is an important
> "overview" that just may help some understand why the lies have
> existed and not changed for decades. To understand this, one needs to
> understand that the real "power" and "control" in scientology
> never really changed through the decades and it did not really matter
> what person, group or organization really seemed to have power from
> time to time (the GO, CMO, ED Int, Commodore Staff Aides, etc.).

> DM and others have seemed very good  at hiding the truth behind the
> real power and control in scientology and has often put attention
> elsewhere to "show" things have changed concerning the control of
> scientology,

> DM will point out that he took over the GO who "were criminals" and
> new structures were implemented as part of a reform in scientology.
> He'll explain how he "saved" scientology in this fashion. Let me
> give an example: I recently made a posting on ars quoting section 57 of
> a declaration that David Miscavige made on 15 October 1999 in the case
> of Wollersheim vs. the Church of Scientology of California.  I will
> quote section 57 again in this posting:

> "57. Upon the dismantling of the GO, church executives within the
> ecclesiastical hierarchy assumed responsibility for the legal affairs
> which the GO had mishandled. This era was marked by great concerns
> about the religion's future in the aftermath of the GO, and it was
> against this backdrop that newly assigned personnel began to examine
> the legal affairs that had been the exclusive province of the GO for 15
> years. Not being experienced in such matters, they retained legal
> counsel to review the structure of the entire religion. I know the
> concern was not "gutting CSC" to " avoid Wollersheim," or anybody else
> for that matter. The history that Wollersheim ignores concerned events
> of far greater importance than his case. In fact, at the time, I had
> never even heard of the man. I was not involved in that restructuring,
> but I am aware of the events that led up to it. I shortly thereafter
> resigned from church staff for 5 years, as described later in this
> declaration".

> In my previous post, I showed how his statement about not being
> involved in the corporate restructuring was indeed false and in fact
> was shown false by the "church's" own website where they proudly
> said that DM "authored" that corporate sortout. I also happen to
> know that statement was false as I myself was the one who took the
> corporate plan for CSI, splitting up the Church of Scientology of
> California, etc., etc., etc. to DM for approval. (He didn't author it
> BTW so that too is a lie). They can't seem to keep their lies
> straight.

> I can tell you that many parts of just that section 57 are also false
> (as are scores of statements contained throughout that declaration and
> others that he has made under penalty of perjury).

> But I want to focus here on just one piece of the above declaration
> that goes to the very heart of the matter about the real controls of
> scientology and how nothing really has changed about controls, lies and
> the like despite the "restructuring" or any other restructuring
> done in scientology's history.

> Let's focus on this part of the above noted section 57:

> "Upon the dismantling of the GO, church executives within the
> ecclesiastical hierarchy assumed responsibility for the legal affairs
> which the GO had mishandled. This era was marked by great concerns
> about the religion's future in the aftermath of the GO, and it was
> against this backdrop that newly assigned personnel began to examine
> the legal affairs that had been the exclusive province of the GO for 15
> years".

> If you follow DM's "logic" here, you will assume that the GO had
> greatly mishandled "church" legal affairs and that the legal
> affairs (mostly here referring to the corporate structure) were
> exclusively handled by the GO for some 15 years.

> If you follow along with the rest of DM's declaration, you will see
> him talk about how this new group in the "ecclesiastical hierarchy"
> took over from the GO and got it right. And now suddenly there is a new
> and somehow "honest" corporate structure  which has, to quote their
> own website about DM,  "given the religion years of sustained growth
> and stable leadership".

> Well, not only are his statements about a new group doing this
> "sortout" false, as is his statement about the "sortout" not
> being to hide assets from damages claimants false,  but the section I
> quote above actually does go to the heart of what I consider to be the
> primary lie of scientology.

> In all those "15 years" where the GO was handling legal, including
> corporate work, the main person in power over the GO was not in fact
> the Guardian World Wide (Jane Kember) nor was it "The Controller"
> (MarySue). It was Hubbard himself!

> DM, throughout his declarations, positions Hubbard as some how a
> wonderful person betrayed by the GO. Hubbard, according to DM, was not
> involved in GO activities and was off the lines during major corporate
> sortouts.

> The facts are very different. Hubbard was deeply involved in all major
> GO legal actions involving corporate throughout the history of the GO.
> Not only that, but many horrible abuses some in the GO carried out were
> under Hubbard's orders. Not only that, but the "damages cases"
> and other such cases that the GO was mired into defending where not
> just from things of their own doing. They were trying to defend against
> real damages in fact caused, not just by the GO, but rather by the
> standard application of abusive Hubbard policies found throughout
> scientology.

> Yes the GO did many bad things and some in there committed crimes and
> deserved to go to jail. But the insane policies of Hubbard relating to
> such things as "fair game", "disconnection", the RPF,
> penalties, hard selling, etc., etc. were in fact behind many legitimate
> governmental and private civil actions against the "church".

> Hubbard was creating most of the main legal problems, not the GO.

> As far as corporate legal goes, as mentioned above, Hubbard himself was
> deeply involved in major corporate evolutions and scams from the
> beginning and in fact directed the GO with respect to handlings for
> same throughout the history of the GO.

> This included corporate matters involving RRF and OTC where money was
> secretly funneled to Hubbard for years and goes right up to and through
> that actual corporate sortout in 1981-1983.

> A few examples from personal history include:

> 1) Hubbard being the one behind the mid 70s "Greater Churches of
> Scientology" plan that GO US was following to set up backup
> corporations for each "church" corporation in the mid 70s. This was
> so new corporations were ready to start in the event the IRS seized all
> assets of church corporations in the US via jeopardy assessment.
> Hubbard wrote then that the real assets of any org were its staff and
> contacts and not the cash, buildings, etc. so he instructed the GO to
> get ready with backup corporations that could be funded from financial
> sources outside of the IRS's reach if needed. (Note: the wildest
> thing really about "all the IRS problems" through the decades is
> that most stem, not from GO mishandlings, but from the abusive written
> or other policies of Hubbard himself including the millions of millions
> of dollars he insisted constantly inure to his own private benefit).
> Again, Hubbard was causing the problems, not the GO. And, he was
> directing the GO to cover them up;
> 2) You can see documents from earlier ars posts by others seized in the
> FBI raids on "the church" showing Deputy Guardian USGO's telexes
> to Hubbard where Hubbard's approval was being gotten on funds to use
> to purchase the Fort Harrison Hotel in Clearwater. CSC (Church of
> Scientology of California) funds could be used and they would secretly
> go though a phony front corporation called "Southern Land Development
> and Leasing Corporation" (SLDLC). Hubbard was not only behind this
> but his approval was needed on anything major that the GO did involving
> this. I myself was on the first "SLDLC" mission in Savannah,
> Georgia where I and a "Commodore Staff Aide" were checking out the
> Savannah Country Club as a possible location for Flag when the ship
> came ashore. When that was given up as not practical, Florida was
> chosen and Hubbard himself had to approve it being Clearwater;
> 3) After the whole SLDLC/UCF (United Churches of Florida) scam blew up
> in Clearwater, I wrote a corporate program to stabilize "Flag" in
> Florida. It was Hubbard himself who wrote to me with his approval of
> what the program covered and asking me to get "Flag" a consumer's
> certificate of exemption there so that it could operate and not have to
> be considered as a business and have to charge sales taxes. I did that
> and complied to Hubbard;
> 4) In GOWW, Hubbard constantly had to approve major corporate
> structures and other legal actions. He had to approve CSC being used as
> the main corporation in the UK (when it was thought CSC would be tax
> exempt in the US and that would be a good positioning for the UK);
> 5) Hubbard's were the orders I had to follow to set up the first WISE
> corporation in Liechtenstein (which we didn't use as Hubbard did not
> like the "Limited" in the name as he said that killed the PR for
> WISE);
> 6) I had Hubbard's own orders on MCCS where he pushed them to come up
> with legal solutions to mask his control of the organizations of
> scientology and gave his own instructions on how to brief the
> attorneys;
> 7) Hubbard's own orders were used for the actual corporate sortout
> missions that put in such things as RTC, CSI, broke up CSC, etc.;
> 8) Hubbard continued to order us well into 1983 about that and more.

> I could give many, many more examples but the above are given to point
> out that it was Hubbard who controlled the GO back then, the legal
> actions it took and it was that same Hubbard who controlled it after
> the GO. Despite all that DM says to deny this.

> So, DM's whole point about the GO screwing it up and some new people
> straightening it out is both false and misleading. Hubbard ran it both
> through the GO and then later through CMO and DM.

> To truly understand this, one has to understand the real "power"
> behind scientology.

> Hubbard for years and years was constantly the one in control
> ultimately. And the ones that had the direct communication lines with
> him ran that control. Remember the days of "CSG", "CS7" and the other
> "CS" positions. "CS" meant "Commodore's Staff", an obvious reference to
> the fact that their power came from the Commodore (Hubbard). MarySue
> herself got her real power as "Commodore's Staff Guardian" from the
> very fact that she was directly connected to Hubbard.

> When he was on the ship, those people were at times close to him on the
> ship and it all was quite convenient and pretty much a true reflection
> of powers as they were.

> Over the years the legal and other "threats" that were attaching
> Hubbard himself to liability as one controlling the direction of the
> organizations of Scientology made it be perceived as very dangerous to
> have such titles as "Commodore's Staffs".

> Plus "flag" went to shore where Hubbard was now more reachable by
> "the bad guys" (IRS, damages claimants, etc.) and, after a brief
> stay in Florida, Hubbard himself went into "hiding" to one degree
> or another, ending up, as we all now know, in California. He could no
> longer "sail away" on a ship and be "fabian" by so sailing.

> He still was "the power" but now those closest to him were more
> hidden. And even many of them, over differing periods of time, lost
> regular contact with him for greater or lesser periods.

> No matter what the "evolutions" of top church management became, it was
> nevertheless true that Hubbard did ultimately control it all. Yes he
> would be "offlines" or "mostly offlines" at various different
> periods and yes someone holding a top position could have made many
> decisions and changes without directly consulting Hubbard. But if he
> later disagreed with them or felt they were somehow hurting the cause
> as he saw it, they were blown out of the water eventually.

> For example, there never really was a separate, wise body of people
> called "Watchdog Committee" that somehow oversaw international
> management. They WERE the main international management people (mostly
> in CMO Int) but an apparancy was created that there were somehow these
> unnamed "wise ones" or whatever that oversaw it all. Well if one thinks
> there really was a separate power such as a independent WDC body, for
> example a "WDC SMI, or "WDC WISE", or "WDC Finance" who truly could
> run things independently well I would beg to differ.

> If you saw an issue from "Watchdog Committee" and thought it was from
> some separate body of people who actually got together and voted on it
> or whatever, you were fooled.

> It might have been from Hubbard or whomever at the time had the main
> power from him. Lies about this were often made to "protect him".
> Hell at least a couple issues published from "Watchdog Committee" were
> part of the "corporate sortout" handlings I worked on. I could give
> many, many corporate examples, both attempts by MCCS and
> "accomplishments" by the missions that actually did the corporate
> sortout after MCCS that bear all this out.

> The WDC personal names were "hidden" as somehow a dramatization of
> the actual contact points to LRH "having to be hidden" as well. But
> hiding things does not change where the real power is. It just masks
> it.

> Guess who would be "shot from guns" if, for example, a WDC SMI or
> WDC WISE or WDC Finance really upset LRH?  Guess who ends up getting
> spit on, beaten, assigned to penal camps (RPF) and the like? All it
> would take to lose any power, be it a WDC position, an IMO
> (International Management Organization) position, an old "Staff
> Captain" position, a top productive mission holder, the actual
> Controller of the Guardian's Office or ANYONE else in the overall
> structure was "an advice" from Hubbard.

> And that "advice" did not have to be wise advice or based on
> information that was true or right.

> Even DM would have been blown out of the water just before or during
> all that 1981/1982 "abuse/horror/dog and pony show" if, for
> example, Pat Broker or David Mayo had gotten Hubbard's ear and
> somehow had gotten Hubbard to think DM was evil or trying to stop
> Hubbard's vision. Publicly available affidavits indicate that
> actually almost happened.

> Always make it look like it is not to "protect" the real power from
> perceived legal, financial and/or other "liability". Be it Hubbard
> then or DM (on "behalf of" Hubbard) now.

> Yes, someone like then Executive Director International Bill Franks or
> top mission holders or Commodores Staff or WDC members may have held a
> lot of power but its continued existence depended on Hubbard
> ultimately.

> DM became that "power" but, before he became the sole power, he shared
> it because he got Hubbard's ear to do so (and thus the real power).

> Part of the reason that so much about "the 1981/82 takeover" by DM  et
> al was hard to pin down on exact orders and time lines is that so much
> was hidden about it all to mask Hubbard's real control of it.

> I was on WDC from mid 82 to late 83 but here is the odd part of that. I
> was in no way under WDC Chairman/CO CMO Int (then Mark Yager) and he
> could give me no orders. I was the only WDC member like that.

> That was because I was Special Unit IC and really was not on any org
> board. Secretly I was really run by DM who was then supposed to be in
> ASI. When I was Special Unit IC and WDC X, it finally was decided that
> maybe I should report to the Inspector General of RTC as DM made him
> over RTC so that pretty much ended up being the "command line" of sorts
> for me. I did occasionally report to the Inspector General or go to Int
> and brief him, whatever. I did eventually "cc" Yager as WDC Chairman on
> most compliances I wrote to Hubbard orders at that time. But the real
> senior I had was DM and I was at various times over at "ASI" getting
> orders from DM.

> What most people have no clue about really is that there really was a
> "secret" body of people directly run by Hubbard but were only initially
> considered under CO CMO Int DeDe. The unit was referred to as an "All
> Clear Unit" (to make things "all clear" for Hubbard to come out of
> hiding) and DM was part of that unit. It was set up in early 81.

> Miscavige got himself into a position where he took sole control of
> that unit. By mid 81 Miscavige had managed to remove MarySue Hubbard
> and "take over the GO". He also got the CO CMO Int replaced based on an
> alleged Hubbard order..

> Miscavige then made it clear that his All Clear Unit was senior to CMO
> Int as he had the direct line to Pat Broeker and Hubbard.

> This "All Clear Unit" by later 81 was broken down into two "groups"
> both 100% controlled by Hubbard and, through his contacts with Hubbard,
> DM: "Special Project" and "Special Unit". Special Project went on to
> become ASI. Special Unit was the one I ended up running.

> The thing is, all this was on no scientology orgboards and was under no
> one at all except DM and, ultimately, Hubbard. The real controls were
> all very hidden and secretive.

> As covered above, WDC itself was a fiction started in 79 to help mask
> the real controls by Hubbard. By that time, Hubbard had CMO take over
> many things and it could not appear that Hubbard or his messengers were
> really running things due to fears of legal liability and the like.
> While Hubbard was the "real power", his messengers became the real
> control points and eventually took over the real control of scientology
> on his behalf.

> It would have been more honest to just say LRH ran things and CMO Int
> was who he ran things through but instead things like WDC and Special
> Project/Special Unit formed and evolved to run and/or disguise that
> control. Again, "WDC" was really for the most part the CMO Int folks
> who ran things under LRH but that "level" with no named people had to
> be created to forward the fiction that it was not his messengers
> running things under him.

> Things were so hidden to mask the real control that there is no way at
> all to understand the "management evolutions" and why things changed so
> dramatically without first understanding where the real power was.

> Throughout the time DM was "in ASI" he ran scientology operations
> through several contacts in CMO Int/WDC, RTC and Special Unit. I know
> of many, many examples of this, as do others who have posted their
> stories.

> Now for an opinion:

> In my humble opinion the reason why everything was really controlled by
> Hubbard, and then DM as taking over for Hubbard, and the reason for all
> the abuses and the wiping out of anyone else who had a piece of that
> power when Hubbard and then DM felt they were somehow hurting "the
> cause" is because scientology, especially the "upper levels", is
> Hubbard's personal "case" that he felt had to be "fought  and
> defended at all times".

> Why must everyone and everything be destroyed or at least stopped that
> opposes what Hubbard says about the upper levels (those levels that
> cover past and future specifics of "the time track")? Why does the
> real power always come back to that central point? Why were there
> countless management structures and corporate evolutions to protect and
> hide the real power? Why is there "fair game" and great abuses to
> deal with anything imagined by the power that attempts to stop this
> "one way out"? Why are all others expendable and can SO members be
> made to live in squalor and their children not have proper nutrition
> and care while Hubbard and top management controlled by him get tens of
> millions of dollars? Why does someone "near the top" who utterly
> supported him get blown out of the water when their connection to him
> seems to create a risk to him? Why does a hugely successful mission
> holder running things well independent and not under the control of top
> management supervision "have to be destroyed"? Why is it that when
> Hubbard's abusive policies cause governmental and/or civil
> "attacks" do those abusive policies not change but rather the ones
> trying to handle the attacks get "RPFed", declared or otherwise
> wiped out for not "handling it"?

> I'll tell you again my opinion of why. It is because it is
> Hubbard's "case" and NOT yours. In my opinion the entire, ever
> "evolving", power structure (no matter how well hidden corporately
> or physically) and policies to enforce it all are nothing but
> dramatizations of Hubbard's personal case.

> The manifestations of what seemed to be the real power changed through
> new postings, new org boards and/or new corporate structures but the
> true power behind it all never really changed.

> The structures "evolved" to mirror how Hubbard himself
> "evolved" in his moves to here or there or to what degree he stayed
> in contact or was  physically or mentally well.

> I don't think you will ever find true and complete "answers" to
> questions relating to who had what real powers in the scientology
> structure without realizing the above first. It makes all else make
> sense. All people who will try to research this later, including
> whatever scholars who may do so, will never get the real answers from
> looking at "management org board changes" or corporate evolutions
> unless they realize where the true power always was. And also, how
> everything else changed as Hubbard's own position in space or his
> connections with others changed.

> The GO wielded many powers. Sometimes in a very destructive way. But
> Jane Kember got her powers via Hubbard's appointment of her and via
> MarySue who was connected to Hubbard as CSG and under other title.
> (Note: the change of MarySue's title from "Commodare's Staff
> Guardian" to "Controller" sure made it look like she and not
> Hubbard controlled things huh?). MarySue, Jane and others from the GO
> went to jail for crimes they committed. But for one second do you think
> Hubbard did not know of this or even order it? You are incorrect if you
> think so. Even docs seized by the FBI in the GO raid showed some of his
> orders about snow white and so much more. Proving it legally as a
> criminal matter with high standards of proof needed in criminal cases,
> verses lowers standards of proof accepted in civil cases, is a whole
> other thing.  Just ask OJ! lol

> When the heat got too close to the real power, for example executives
> in the GO being charged for crimes they committed, those below him were
> wiped out and his connection to them was "vetted away" or otherwise
> denied or hidden "to protect the real source and power". The same
> thing, if less dramatically, happened to all others who held high
> positions if what they did in any way really compromised Hubbard or how
> he felt things must be at that time. Hubbard even let his own wife take
> the fall for him.

> ALL power in scientology was fleeting but his own.

> (Personally, I believe that the constant trouble to get approval of new
> management org boards and the like, why it can even take years and why
> DM "always has to be the only one who "can do it" is NOT because
> other Int staff are stupid or not as "aware" as DM. It's because
> it is really complicated as it based on a lie of the real power that
> can't even be spoken much less committed to writing there).

> On Hubbard's demise, DM is the one who now runs that control and who
> now is defending and dramatizing that "case". He may think he has
> "that power" now but I personally think what he has now is "that
> curse".

> The entire corporate structure is nothing more than a legal
> dramatization of that "case" of protecting the power at all costs,
> protecting that "one way out" and destroying everything that
> opposes it.

> Bottom line, what DM says in his declaration about "changes in
> power" from the GO to CMO is meaningless. The real power NEVER
> changed. The lies and abuses continue. The only difference is that
> Hubbard later died with DM having the reigns and now an even crazier,
> more hostile and abusive person holds the purse strings of scientology
> where abuses even dwarf those done by ones that came before him.

> Current "church" management has had and will continue to have the
> same legal problems as the GO had, as they are based on the same lies
> and the same abusive policies. Even after the corporate sortout of
> 81/82, money was funneled to Hubbard in fraudulent and deceptive ways
> just as bad as in the old RRF/OTC days. All under demands by DM with
> threats of such things as strangulation for non compliance. Some of the
> people doing that corporate sortout thought it was a new beginning
> where lies about control, inurement and the like would discontinue.
> Little did they know that nothing would truly change.

> Sorry for the length. I just wanted to say this as all this is what
> truly lies behind perhaps more than 100 lies DM has made in court that
> are being documented. I feel it explains what is really behind such
> lies.

> And, I would like to conclude by saying that I deeply do respect
> one's own religious and/or spiritual beliefs and this includes the
> right of people who feel they can make spiritual or other gains through
> the application of different scientology practices (communicate better,
> do better in their own estimation, whatever). If abuses could stop
> (which means many policies have to change) I support scientologists,
> like anyone else, having the rights to their beliefs. I just don't
> happen to be one of those believers and this does not change the points
> about secret controls and lies above.

> SME


 
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