When Paulette Cooper was faced with the possibility of being indicted
for the manufactured bomb threats in 1973, she learned of a woman in
Canada who was engaged in her own legal battles with the CoS -- Nan
McLean.

Cooper telephoned Nan McLean, then flew up to Toronto to meet her.
Thence began a very close friendship between the two women.

When documents seized by the FBI from Scientology[tm] headquarters
were unsealed by Judge Richie in the U.S. District Court for the
District of D.C. in November 1979, Cooper and McLean began a
months-long project of going through the material and photocopying
the damning records.

During this time, Cooper became a contractual employee of Richard
Bast, the private investigator.  While McLean was paying for her
living expenses and photocopying costs out of her own pocket, Cooper's
bills were being reimbursed by Bast as business expenses.
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Tape RC-47

March 15, 1980 -- Cooper, Bast

COOPER: You know, getting back to Nan and her stupid honesty.
                Do you know what I managed to cheat down my photocopy bill down to?  
                Get this . . .

BAST:           What's that?

COOPER: $89.50.

BAST:           Really?

COOPER: Now, Nan and I photocopied, I did three-quarters of what she
                did.  Okay?  That's the way it generally went. . .

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: She's paying an $800 bill.

BAST:           Yeah, that's what she mentioned to me - $800 or something like
                that.

COOPER: She started in on me yesterday.

BAST:           Yeah?

COOPER: She said, "What was your photocopy bill?"

BAST:           Do you think Nan might turn you in?  I wonder if it's a good

                idea . . .

COOPER: I didn't tell her.

BAST:           . . . not to pay uh . . .

COOPER: I didn't tell her.

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: You know what I said?

BAST:           Yeah?

COOPER: I said, "It makes me sick to think about it, let's not discuss

                it . . . .

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: So, she said again, you know. . .

BAST:           I know but she, what if she. . . what if she finds out from    
                them how much you paid?   I wonder if it's, it's. . .

COOPER: She can't.  It's a court record.  Hey, there's no way she's
                gonna find out.

BAST:           Oh, she's not?

COOPER: In fact, I made a point, on Friday. . .

BAST:           'Cause see, she'd, she'd turn you in, you know, for defrauding
                the government or       something. . .

COOPER: I made a point last Friday.  I said, "I'm going up to the
                press room. . ."

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: . . .um to talk to Ken privately. . .

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: And then I went and paid.  I didn't want her next to me when
                she saw me writing out a check for $89.50. . . (garbled)

BAST:           Oh, I see. . . I see. . . 'cause she knew how much you, how
                much you got there. . .

COOPER: But she was watching very carefully yesterday.  So I made
                uh. . .

BAST:           . . . because you see that's, that'd be considered a fraud on
                the government.

COOPER: I know.  But I made a point yesterday of being completely
                honest about it.  You know why?  It's only fifty pages.

BAST:           Oh, I see.  So you paid them for the fifty pages.

COOPER: Sure.  I said, "Why not?"  You know?

BAST:           Yeah, that's right.  Yeah, well, you know, that's picayune
                stuff there, you know.   I'd. . . I'd, I, I would ju. . . . you
                know. . . .

COOPER: Well, why should we pay $800?

BAST:           Well, yeah.

COOPER: See, if we can pay $89.50. Right?

BAST:           Well, yeah, that kinda makes sense.

COOPER: Well, if they (garbled) it's because they trust me.

BAST:           But, I mean, but with Nan, I, I'd just as soon pay the full
                amount and not have, you know, not be worried about her.

COOPER: Yeah.  Don't fool around with Nan.  Don't , uh, everything has
                to be completely. . .

BAST:           Oh no, I know that, that's why I'm saying, I mean she's down
                there with you, and you know, she says she's friendly with those
                Court Clerks down there.  She might ask them how much you paid.
                That's why I would just as soon. . .

COOPER: No. She's friendly with the. . . you see, I didn't pay to the
                Clerk.  I paid to the   Finance Department.  There's no way she would
                know.

BAST:           Does she know the Finan. . . who does she pay to?

COOPER: No, the Finance Department. The same place.  You ring a bell,
                and hand them your bill and hand them your check.

BAST:           Oh, I see.

COOPER: And furthermore, I can say something ...

BAST:           I mean really, those kind of expenses, I would suggest you not
                chisel on.  You do whatever you want to do, but uh. . .

COOPER: Don't worry.  She's not gonna, she's not gonna turn me in on
                something like that.

BAST:           Damn, she turned in Ted Patrick.

COOPER: Yeah, but that's not uh. . .

BAST:           She said she'd turn in her own son.

COOPER: I know.  Now let me tell you though, what I did yesterday. . .

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: Periodically, we need this guy named Bob Lyons. . .

BAST:           Who's he again, now?

COOPER: He's the Court Clerk.

BAST:           Oh yeah.  Okay.

COOPER: It's like when the press comes down and we need to have the
                paper filled in. . .

BAST:           Maybe you ought to take him out to dinner, you know, or lunch
                or something. . .

COOPER: No. . . no, you know what I did? And he almost fell over. . .

BAST:           What?

COOPER: In fact, Nan. . . it allegedly came from both of us.

BAST:           Yeah?

COOPER: Uh, a bottle of Chivas Regal, thanking him...

BAST:           Oh, really?

COOPER: . . . he'd been so nice.  So I bought it at the train coming
                out.

BAST:           Yeah?  No kidding.

COOPER: And I got him a bottle, he was, he said...

BAST:           How much did that cost us?

COOPER: Sixteen dollars.  Cheap at half the price.

BAST:           Yeah, yeah.  That's right.  Yeah, that's cheaper than a
dinner.

COOPER: Exactly, and he said, "Oh, I can't accept a gift like this."
                No one's around.  Now the important thing is that I wasn't coming
                back, so it didn't look like any kind of a bribe. . .

BAST:           Yeah, yeah. . .

COOPER: . . . and I said, Nan and I are so grateful.

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: . . . that you've gone out of your way on so many occasions
                that we absolute. . . uh                ...

BAST:           Did Nan pay for half of it?

COOPER: No, but she's going to.

BAST:           Oh, I see.  It only costs our client eight dollars then.

COOPER: Well, if we can collect from Nan.

BAST:           Yeah.  Right.

COOPER: So, she. . . . To collect money from her isn't hard,
                incidentally.

BAST:                   Yeah.

COOPER: With all her honesty.

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: As to getting, uh, getting a document from her. . .

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: . . . you know, which you can ask her.  If you give her
                anything, it's, you might as well flush it down the toilet. (2-3
                words unintelligible)

BAST:           So, Bob Lyons was happy with the uh  . .. Chivas Regal?

COOPER: Ecstatic . . . I could call him up at any point and get
                anything. . .

BAST:           Oh, beautiful.

COOPER:         . . . for sixteen dollars.

BAST:           Oh, beautiful.

COOPER: So that was a good move.

BAST:           How old a guy is this Bob Lyons?  Is he a younger man. . .

COOPER: No.

BAST:           . . . or older man?

COOPER: Like fifty-five.  Married, kids, blah . . .

BAST:           Oh, I see, yeah.

COOPER: . . . I rememb. . . you know, I mean, I don't care for the
                man, but I can get; never can tell when we need him, and he, he. . .

BAST:           That's right.  Hey, he's a good contact there.

COOPER: . . . he works at the. . .

BAST:           . . . a good contact.

COOPER: You know it, so that was um. . .

BAST:           But he wasn't going to take it at first, until you said. . .

COOPER: No.

BAST:           Look it's only your. . .

COOPER: He's not allowed to. . .

BAST:           Was Nan with you?

COOPER: Yeah.

BAST:           Oh, so, you said look, it's just the three of us, nobody
knows,
                take it.

COOPER: That's the point, nobody's here. . .

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: . . . and I said, if you don't like Chivas Regal, uh . . .

BAST:           We'll get you whatever you want.

COOPER: I said, no, I got it at the train station, so that he would
                know that I was the one in back of this whole thing. . .

BAST:           Oh, I see that you're the. . . that Nan wouldn't take the. . .

COOPER: I . .  I carried it.

BAST:           . . . credit, you took all of the credit.

COOPER: But I said I got it at the train station.

BAST:           Yeah.

COOPER: So I said you go and exchange it for whatever you like. He
                says "Oh, I love this."  You know. . .

BAST:           Beautiful.

COOPER: He was ecstatic.  So, it turned out to be for sixteen dollars
                and we may have made a life-long friend.

BAST:           Oh, beautiful.