ANNOUNCEMENT!
Lord....@cheerful.com
Signed: Lord Xaverl
```````````````````````````````
"Happiness and strength endure only in the absence of hate. To hate
alone is the road to disaster. To love is the road to strength. To love
in spite of all is the secret of greatness. And may very well be the
greatest secret in this universe."
L. Ron Hubbard :)
Tilman Hausherr
>I am the only Lord Xaverl, any other Lord on ARS is an impostor!
*plonk*
Another Barbara Schwarz account.
--
Tilman Hausherr [KoX, SP5.55] Entheta * Enturbulation * Entertainment
http://www.xenu.de
Resistance is futile. You will be enturbulated. Xenu always prevails.
Find broken links on your web site: http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html
The Xenu bookstore: http://home.snafu.de/tilman/bookstore.html
barbz
> On 31 Jul 2006 21:41:03 -0700, Lord....@cheerful.com wrote:
>
>> I am the only Lord Xaverl, any other Lord on ARS is an impostor!
>
> *plonk*
>
> Another Barbara Schwarz account.
>
>
>
--
"I'm for the separation of church and hate."
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC(wdne)
xenu...@netscape.net
Eru Ilúvatar
>> Another Barbara Schwarz account.
>>
>>
>>
>Thought so.
She does make it easy.
Barbara Schwarz
Tilman Hausherr schrieb:
> On 31 Jul 2006 21:41:03 -0700, Lord....@cheerful.com wrote:
>
> >I am the only Lord Xaverl, any other Lord on ARS is an impostor!
>
> *plonk*
>
> Another Barbara Schwarz account.
How does Tilmann Hausherr want to know? I though he doesn't work for
the German secret services which spy in uncontitutional and human
rights violating manners on innocent Scientologists.
Barbara Schwarz (Looking for the original Mark [Marty] Rathbun. No
impostor, please!)
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
--
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities. He also has bomb
instructions on the net.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
Brian J. Bruns aka Burns plays a "cop" on the net but he is a felon
(computer crimes), a spammer, an anti-free speech activist, and the
abusive AHBL website is his. He lies about me on his website. He is the
abuser and is supported by Korey Jerome Kruse ("Lord Xenu", "Simkatu"
or "Vivaldi") who just came out of jail and is, according to the
courts, an habitual offender.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/70fdd710bf99c37a?dmode=source&hl=en
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=%22Korey+Jerome+Kruse%22
Barbara Schwarz
barbz schrieb:
> Tilman Hausherr wrote:
> > On 31 Jul 2006 21:41:03 -0700, Lord....@cheerful.com wrote:
> >
> >> I am the only Lord Xaverl, any other Lord on ARS is an impostor!
> >
> > *plonk*
> >
> > Another Barbara Schwarz account.
> >
> >
> >
> Thought so.
Because AOL has just one customer?
Zinj
barbara...@gmail.com says...
>
> barbz schrieb:
>
> > Tilman Hausherr wrote:
> > > On 31 Jul 2006 21:41:03 -0700, Lord....@cheerful.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> I am the only Lord Xaverl, any other Lord on ARS is an impostor!
> > >
> > > *plonk*
> > >
> > > Another Barbara Schwarz account.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Thought so.
>
>
> Because AOL has just one customer?
Don't mind them Barbara.
All you have to do is say 'I am not that poster'.
It's not as if it would be the *first* time you lied :)
By now you should be practiced.
Greatest Good etc. eh?
Zinj
--
You Can Lead a Clam to Reason; but You Can't Make Him Think
I am being defamed and forged here
Zinj wrote:
> In article <1154469440....@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> barbara...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > barbz schrieb:
> >
> > > Tilman Hausherr wrote:
> > > > On 31 Jul 2006 21:41:03 -0700, Lord....@cheerful.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I am the only Lord Xaverl, any other Lord on ARS is an impostor!
> > > >
> > > > *plonk*
> > > >
> > > > Another Barbara Schwarz account.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Thought so.
> >
> >
> > Because AOL has just one customer?
>
> Don't mind them Barbara.
> All you have to do is say 'I am not that poster'.
>
> It's not as if it would be the *first* time you lied :)
I never lie. Tell me one lie that I did. I may do a harmless mistake
but I never lie. That is why I can hold my head so high, and yours
drops to the ground.
> By now you should be practiced.
>
> Greatest Good etc. eh?
I never lie, that is why I say that I don't read Tilman Hausherr's
postings. I usually just read him when he smeared me. He is a boring
lying defamer German Piefke. You know what a Piefke is, don't? You are
one too.
Barbara Schwarz (Looking for the original Mark [Marty] Rathbun. No
impostor, please!)
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
--
Barbzzzzz "Babbles" Graham, is the selfproclaimed "chaplain" of an
allegedly non-existing organization named ARSCC that doesn't pay taxes.
But if they don't exist, how come they have a Chief Financial Officer
(jail bird, drug loving and habitual offender Korey Jerome Kruse aka
"Simkatu" and "Lord Xenu") who works and travels on behalf of ARSCC?
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=%22Korey+Jerome+Kruse%22
Barbara Graham in her own words: "Anything's legal if you don't get
caught." And: "You asshole. I was *never* a good person, you sad piece
of crap. --
Spidergraham, Chaplain, ARSCC"
More: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html
Z
Zinj
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, Stilllov...@myway.com
says...
<snip>
> I never lie, that is why I say that I don't read Tilman Hausherr's
> postings. I usually just read him when he smeared me. He is a boring
> lying defamer German Piefke. You know what a Piefke is, don't? You are
> one too.
Barbara, in the *middle* of floods where you posted using 'other
names', you flat out claimed that you *always* signed your
posts.
When it obviously wasn't true.
You are a liar Barbara. All that matters now is whether you lie
about being a liar :)
I am being defamed and forged here
Zinj wrote:
> In article <1154472520.803872.77950
> @m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, Stilllov...@myway.com
> says...
>
> <snip>
>
> > I never lie, that is why I say that I don't read Tilman Hausherr's
> > postings. I usually just read him when he smeared me. He is a boring
> > lying defamer German Piefke. You know what a Piefke is, don't? You are
> > one too.
>
> Barbara, in the *middle* of floods where you posted using 'other
> names', you flat out claimed that you *always* signed your
> posts.
Wrong. I signed my postings, when I said it. However, I might change my
name and post like you in future. Not the lies that you post but most
of you SCN haters don't post with your real names, why should I? That
you can better abuse me?
>
> When it obviously wasn't true.
>
> You are a liar Barbara. All that matters now is whether you lie
> about being a liar :)
>
> Zinj
You are an idiot. I don't have to listen to that.
Barbara Schwarz (Looking for the original Mark [Marty] Rathbun. No
impostor, please!)
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
--
Barbzzzzz "Babbles" Graham, is the selfproclaimed "chaplain" of an
allegedly non-existing organization named ARSCC that doesn't pay taxes.
But if they don't exist, how come they have a Chief Financial Officer
(jail bird, drug loving and habitual offender Korey Jerome Kruse aka
"Simkatu" and "Lord Xenu") who works and travels on behalf of ARSCC?
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=%22Korey+Jerome+Kruse%22
Barbara Graham in her own words: "Anything's legal if you don't get
caught." And: "You asshole. I was *never* a good person, you sad piece
of crap. --
Spidergraham, Chaplain, ARSCC"
More: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html
>
> --
Eru Ilúvatar
>I never lie.
That's a lie.
>Tell me one lie that I did.
You lied when you said you aren't a spammer.
Here's another lie of yours:
"Don't provoke my hot Texan blood."
barbz
Like the poster "I am being forged and defamed" isn't her either.
Guffaw...like we can't tell that unique Engrish "Sharp braking pitch
bull shepherds" for instance...
barbz
Oh, we know she lies about being a liar. And she's not even very good at
it! Well...you get what you pay for...<snork>
The Chief Instigator
>>I never lie.
>That's a lie.
No kidding...JFK was more of a Texan than Babblin' Schwarz will ever be.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. TBA, 7:35
Eru Ilúvatar
>>Babbles the Dim posing as "I am being defamed and forged here" <Stilllov...@myway.com> wrote:
>
>>>I never lie.
>
>>That's a lie.
>
>>>Tell me one lie that I did.
>
>>You lied when you said you aren't a spammer.
>
>>Here's another lie of yours:
>> "Don't provoke my hot Texan blood."
>
>No kidding...JFK was more of a Texan than Babblin' Schwarz will ever be.
I have to wonder if Babbles even knows that she's lying. It really
looks like her insanity has taken her beyond that point.
The Chief Instigator
>>>>I never lie.
>>>That's a lie.
Judging by her output in the past few days, she may be going completely around
the bend.
Eru Ilúvatar
>Judging by her output in the past few days, she may be going completely around
>the bend.
And that's different how?
The Chief Instigator
How should I know? I've never been as far as being able to see the bend, much
less go around it...
Tilman Hausherr
>Oh, we know she lies about being a liar. And she's not even very good at
>it! Well...you get what you pay for...<snork>
Barbara is a longtime proven liar... in german court, she even
*admitted* that she had lied about a scientology critic: when the critic
took her to court about her lies, she accepted his claim without
contest.
Tilman
Barbara Schwarz
Tilman Hausherr wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:55:10 -0700, barbz <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >Oh, we know she lies about being a liar. And she's not even very good at
> >it! Well...you get what you pay for...<snork>
>
> Barbara
Tilmann Hausherr is a liar. He works for the German government (yes,
Germany, that killed millions of people) to defame religion. I didn't
made that statement about Loffelmann but he lied to Rosemarie that the
female President of the C of S would be is finance, which I never was.
Tilman lies about me since ever.
Barbara Schwarz (Looking for the original Mark [Marty] Rathbun. No
impostor, please!)
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
--
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
harassment):
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
Wikipedia defamation scribbler and pro eugenics Tilman Joerg Hausherr,
linked to the fanatical German secret service OPC, wants to hurt
American tourism.
http://www.parishioners.org/extremists/hauser1.html
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/8962a9830812112f?hl=en&
http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/
http://wikipediareview.com/
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/bookstore.html
Barbara Schwarz
Tilman Hausherr schrieb:
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:55:10 -0700, barbz <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >Oh, we know she lies about being a liar. And she's not even very good at
> >it! Well...you get what you pay for...<snork>
Of course I am not good at lying, as I don't lie, you do Barbzzzz and
here is another liar and harasser. He is also working with OPC spy
Ursula Caberta who said that she is pround to be Goebbles.
"Fine" people, those OPC agents! Tilman Hausherr is nothing but a hate
monger and liar.
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
TILMAN HAUSHERR
Tilman Joerg Hausherr, a German national, is bent on the destruction of
religious rights in Germany. While claiming to be solely employed as a
software developer, Hausherr somehow manages to spend the vast majority
of his time vilifying the practices of minority religions and lobbying
to severely restrict the rights of parishioners, if not eliminate them
entirely.
In addition to his attacks on other religions, Hausherr has been
harassing the Church of Scientology since late 1994. His acts of hatred
include making threats against parishioners by posting their names and
businesses on the Internet to encourage boycotts, hate "pickets," and
email harassment, participating in hate demonstrations in an effort to
intimidate parishioners from entering their Churches, and promoting the
"picketing" of schools attended by the children of Scientologists.
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Barbara Schwarz
>
Barbara Schwarz
Tilman Hausherr schrieb:
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:55:10 -0700, barbz <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >Oh, we know she lies about being a liar. And she's not even very good at
> >it! Well...you get what you pay for...<snork>
>
> Barbara is a longtime proven liar... in german court, she even
> *admitted* that she had lied about a scientology critic: when the critic
> took her to court about her lies, she accepted his claim without
> contest.
I was just about 20 years old, the case was not handled by me but
attorneys.
I just told Loffelmann what RB told me about him. He tried to make her
believe that he is engaged to me, which was HIS lie, not mine. The
statement that Loffelmann claimed that I should have made, was not made
be me. It was not lies, it was ONE little statement, and he lied about
the content of that statement too.
Germany is biased towards Scientologists as they were biased towards
Nazis. You can't get right in a country as that one.
By the way, I just criticized Loffelmann, and all of you said so much
worse things and posted so much worse things, including hypocritical
Tilmann Hausherr, that everything I said is still that of a choir girl
compared with you defaming satans.
> Tilman
Here look at this: Tilmann stands for the ideas that Nazis had. Who is
he to judge me?
What makes Tilman think that he is desirable and that a society full
with Tilmann's would be so great? It think it would be awful!
TILMAN HAUSHERR (continued)
While lobbying for the destruction of the Church internationally,
Hausherr is particularly devoted to destroying parishioners' rights in
Germany. In his internet postings, Hausherr applauds the psychiatric
practice of Eugenics, the concept of creating a "pure" society by
removing from it those who are considered "undesirable." Members of
minority religions are high on Hausherr's list of undesirables and he
wastes no opportunity to lobby his government to restrict their rights.
Hausherr is a strong supporter of Ursula Caberta, a Hamburg government
official who works diligently to ensure that Scientologists are
discriminated against in Germany. This includes harassing companies
that hire Scientologists, generating anti-religious press, and lobbying
the federal government to take actions to close Churches and affiliated
Scientology organizations. One German court held that Caberta could be
described as a "human rights violator." Recently, Caberta was fined for
accepting $75,000 from an American anti-religious extremist in conflict
with her obligation as a government official to remain neutral and
objective (something she has never done).
Barbara Schwarz
Tilman Hausherr schrieb:
> On T
Read this: Tilmann Hausherr wants people in care of sexually molesting
p$ychs. How disgusting is this? What kind of perverted person is he?
How dare him to raise his voice against me by being involved in such
slime activities.
Barbara Schwarz
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
TILMAN HAUSHERR (continued)
Hausherr is so extreme as to promote James Randi, a so-called Skeptic
dedicated to attacking any belief for which he considers there is
insufficient proof. Religion is a favorite target of the Skeptics
movement, obviously because many religious beliefs are based in faith.
Hausherr has carried his skepticism so far as to participate in attacks
on magicians, decrying their entertainments as fraudulent.
Hausherr is given as a "source" on Scientology on at least one internet
page of Skeptic's links, which includes links to Dr. Stephen Barrett
one of the earliest psychiatrists to attack Scientology. Hausherr has
never been a Scientologist nor, it appears, has he ever made an honest
attempt to study and understand the Church doctrines. Hausherr is,
however, a strong supporter of psychiatry to the point where he even
defends psychiatrists who have been convicted of such crimes as
sexually molesting their patients. It is important to note that The
Church of Scientology founded the Citizen's Commission on Human Rights
which is devoted to exposing psychiatric crimes and the abuse of
psychiatric patients.
Barbara Schwarz
TILMAN HAUSHERR (continued)
Hausherr has attended several conferences given internationally by
anti-religious movement organizations. He also works closely with
Thomas Gandow, a Lutheran minister active in the movement to oppress
the rights of religious minorities in Germany.
Besides attacking Scientology, Hausherr also posts to other internet
newsgroups that malign a variety of spiritual beliefs including
transcendental meditation and different branches of East Indian
religions.
Based on the extent of his anti-religious activities, and a remarkable
degree of access to normally restricted information, it is highly
suspected that Hausherr in truth works for the German government. He
often posts to the Internet detailed personal information about
Scientology businessmen in the US and abroad that is not generally made
available to the public. Hausherr also works closely with Roger Gonnet,
a French anti-religious extremist who appears to have equally
remarkable access to French government documents that pertain to
religious oppression in France.
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Barbara Schwarz
the statement to hurt American tourism, but he did. He is a hypocrite.
Tilman Hausherr has a completely rotten character.
Barbara Schwarz
RFW:
TILMAN HAUSHERR
Another document reveals that Tilman Hausherr, a German national,
conspired with Jacobsen and others to hurt tourism in Clearwater, in
other words to destroy the city's economy. When begged by a Clearwater
resident not to hurt Clearwater tourism Hausherr responded and we
quote:
"I think it is a good idea to hurt tourism."
That's not all Hausherr said. He wanted to make it look like the Church
of Scientology had hurt the tourism and not the hate marchers. Let's
hear it from Hausherr himself what the real plan is:
"If the city finds out that tourism isn't going well because of
scientology, they would do more against them."
A cohort of Hausherr backed Hausherr completely and also attacked the
City Council and members of the Clearwater community.
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Barbara Schwarz
barbz schrieb:
> Zinj wrote:
> > In article <1154472520.803872.77950
> > @m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, Stilllov...@myway.com
> > says...
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> I never lie, that is why I say that I don't read Tilman Hausherr's
> >> postings. I usually just read him when he smeared me. He is a boring
> >> lying defamer German Piefke. You know what a Piefke is, don't? You are
> >> one too.
> >
> > Barbara, in the *middle* of floods where you posted using 'other
> > names', you flat out claimed that you *always* signed your
> > posts.
> >
> > When it obviously wasn't true.
> >
> > You are a liar Barbara. All that matters now is whether you lie
> > about being a liar :)
> >
> > Zinj
>
> Oh, we know she lies about being a liar. And she's not even very good at
> it! Well...you get what you pay for...<snork>
You are a lying creep, Barbzzzzzzzzz Graham:
BARBARA GRAHAM (continued)
On July 5, 2000 Graham picketed a Church facility with David Rice and
Keith Henson while David Rice took the GPS coordinates of several
buildings. One day later, on 6 July 2000, she reported about the prior
day's activities referring to Rice's "handheld GPS device" thereby
making it very clear that she knew what was being done (contrary to
Keith Henson's and David Rice's postings). Her posts also demonstrated
that Keith Henson had been the driving force behind the day's picket
actions.
Graham also admits, according to her own postings, to attending
gatherings at the home of Ida Camburn, the meeting place for
anti-Scientologists whenever they are in town.
On January 6, 2001 Graham proceeded to harass the Church facility as a
"birthday present" for and requested by Ida Camburn.
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The Chief Instigator
>Tilman Hausherr schrieb:
>> On T
>Read this: Tilmann Hausherr wants people in care of sexually molesting
>p$ychs. How disgusting is this? What kind of perverted person is he?
He's downright saintly compared to your delusions, Babbles.
>How dare him to raise his voice against me by being involved in such
>slime activities.
It's really simple (not that you have a mind left to reason it out): Anyone
can offer their opinion of your mentally ill crusade, and there is nothing you
can do to stop that. You are *no* relation to L. Rum Blubbard, even if you're
trying to impersonate him.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 7 vs. Grand Rapids, 7:35
The Chief Instigator
>Speaking about lies. Tilman lied in postings to me that he never made
>the statement to hurt American tourism, but he did. He is a hypocrite.
>Tilman Hausherr has a completely rotten character.
Quit projecting your numerous mental defects on those who dare to question
your foam-at-the-mouth insanity.
realpch
What are you referring to here Tilman? I don't remember this.
Peach
--
Extra! Extra! Read All About It!
Save some dough, save some grief:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.scientology-lies.com
Tilman Hausherr
>Tilman Hausherr wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:55:10 -0700, barbz <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Oh, we know she lies about being a liar. And she's not even very good at
>> >it! Well...you get what you pay for...<snork>
>>
>> Barbara is a longtime proven liar... in german court, she even
>> *admitted* that she had lied about a scientology critic: when the critic
>> took her to court about her lies, she accepted his claim without
>> contest.
>What are you referring to here Tilman? I don't remember this.
In Germany, Barbara Schwarz claimed that a scientology critic,
Theologist Hans Löffelmann, had given information from a confidential
conversation with her mother to journalists. Löffelmann sued. Babbles
did not even contest the claim, she accepted it. I.e. she admitted that
she had lied.
http://www.ingo-heinemann.de/Kritiker-sind-Verbrecher-1982.htm
realpch
Ah, thanks. I don't believe I'd read this before.
Barbara Schwarz
Tilman Hausherr schrieb:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:54:37 -0700, realpch <rea...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Tilman Hausherr wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:55:10 -0700, barbz <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Oh, we know she lies about being a liar. And she's not even very good at
> >> >it! Well...you get what you pay for...<snork>
> >>
> >> Barbara is a longtime proven liar... in german court, she even
> >> *admitted* that she had lied about a scientology critic: when the critic
> >> took her to court about her lies, she accepted his claim without
> >> contest.
>
> >What are you referring to here Tilman? I don't remember this.
>
> In Germany, Barbara Schwarz claimed that a scientology critic,
> Theologist Hans Löffelmann, had given information from a confidential
> conversation with her mother to journalists.
That is what RB told me. I never said that I lied because I didn't. The
statement that Loffelmann used was even "enhanced". Stuff was added
that I never said. I never said that Iied as don't lie. Loffelmann
called RB (I have this in writing) and told that he is engaged to the
President of the C of S Germany, which was me. He is the liar.
Heinemann, Tilmann's friend, was involved in kidnapping and the
deprogramming event in Herrsching. RB wrote to me that he hooked her up
with psych Dieter Rohmann who hired the Cyril Vosper and the other
kidnappers. Heinemann belongs also behind bars.
The lawyers told me that they handle the case. I could not get RB to
help me back then because she was so poisoned from the lies of
Loeffelmann and Heinemann and Haack.
I didn't lie. Period. It was true. The case is from the 70s, by the
way. Tilmann has to grab out these old stuff. What he and his friends
Peter Widmer and Kruse lied about me is a lot worse than this alleged
false statement that I said in good faith.
Barbara Schwarz (Looking for the original Mark [Marty] Rathbun. No
impostor, please!)
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
--
Barbara Schwarz
realpch schrieb:
Exactly. It is not true. I made a statement in good faith and
Loffelmann's witnesses fabricated additions tot he statement that I
never made. I also was never engaged to me. He just lied and confused
RB. Read what happened to me and that is the truth. Loffelmann was also
one who spread fear and lies about SCN which brought RB to hire
kidnappers. And Ingo Heinemann, Tilmann's good friend, gave RB the tip
where to go to get connected with the deprogrammer. She wrote me that
black on white.
Here, look what the result was!
Barbara Schwarz
-----------------------------
Police report:
1. The British citizen
Cyril V o s p e r (001)
John M a t h e w s o n (002) and
Douglas R e y n o l d s (003)
a) are accused of having aggrieved Schwarz unlawfully imprisoned and
b) mishandled her physically (001 and 002)
2. The mother of the aggrieved,
Rosemarie B r e t s c h n e i d e r (004) is accused of having
instigated the offenders.
3. The sister of the aggrieved
(name deleted) (005) and
another unknown female person (006)
are being accused,
of having helped the offenders.
Cause and result of the investigation:
On November 14, 1987, at 11.15 pm, a man (known with name) this police
station that he heard two hours ago screams for help in Steindlgasse.
After that, he showed the police officers the place. It was the
vacation house of family Schleuter, Steindlgasse 10.
Four people were present in the house, the accused Vosper, Mathewson,
Bretschneider and the aggrieved Schwarz. Ms. Schwarz explained that she
was held without her will. According to her information and our
investigation, we found following facts:
Ms. Bretschneider rented the vacation house from November 13, 1987 for
14 days, with intention to separate her daughter from her religious
belief. After a long search she found through Parents' Initiatives
the association "FAIRS" in London/Great Britain, and she made
contact with them. After agreement, Vosper, Mathewson and Reynold
traveled from London to the vacation house on November 13, 1987. Ms.
Bretschneider joined them from Munich on November 14, 1987. The day
before, she carried groceries and stuff for sleeping with help of her
other daughter in the house.
On November 14, 1987, Ms. Bretschneider made an unknown female person
(006) make a fake phone call. In this call, the unknown female faked
that Ms. Bretschneider took a fall during her activity to look for an
rental object and needed her medicine and her pulmo aide (electrical
inhaler). Frau (deleted) offered her sister to drive her to Herrsching.
>From the agreed meeting point, the railway station in Herrsching,
Reynolds (003) led the women in the Steindlgasse 10. Frau (deleted)
asked her sister to leave the car and bring the medicine and electrical
inhaler in the house. Subsequently, Ms. (deleted) drove away, Reynold
followed in the house where the other three accused were waiting for
the aggrieved.
Ms. Schwarz was then told what the intention of the others in the house
were: her deprogramming from the religion Scientology, to which Ms.
Schwarz belongs since 1977. After an introduction speech, the injured
protested, slammed in a window and called for help, without being
heard. As a result, 002 threw her to the floor, sat on her back and
covered her nose and mouth with his hand to make her obedient. After
some more six hours of talks, the aggrieved called again for help after
she heard steps outside. As a result, she was again pushed to the
floor, 002 pressed his hands over her nose and mouth. 001 removed her
boot and bent her toes in painful way.
003 left briefly after start of the begin of the "treatment" the
house and didn't participate except leading to the house and as
watchdog.
Police stepped in and stopped a false imprisonment that was planned for
10 - 14 days.
Vosper, Mathewson and Ms. Bretschneider were preliminary arrested and
transported to our police station. Ms. Schwarz went to the hospital in
Seefeld to get treatment for her cut hands that she suffered from
slamming in the window. After examination of the jail question, Ms.
Bretschneider was released home. Vosper and Mathewson were lead on
November 15, 1987 before an investigating judge in Weilheim.
Arrest warrant was issued against them on November 16, 1987. The search
for Reynold was sofar unsuccessful.
The vacation house is on the property and next to the home of general
practitioner, Dr. Schleuter, in the middle of Herrsching. It has 45
qm. Living room, bathroom and corridor in the first floor and kitchen
and bedroom in the upper floor. The house was prepared for the
"treatment". The two window shutter were secured with locks,
curtains and curtain rods were removed, pictures were removed, the
ceiling lamp was exchanged, electrical outlets were covered with tape,
the door handles to the floor and on the inside of the entrance were
removed. In the bathroom, electrical outlets were covered with tape and
the wall lamp removed. No changes were made in the upper floor as
apparently the living room was chosen to be the "treatment room".
Written papers and tools were found in the house and secured as they
are significant as evidence for the penal case. These subjects are
being mailed to the district attorney together with this report.
Accused 001, 002, 004 and 005 were questioned to person and subject
matter but invoked their right to remain silent. 001 and 002 were
willing to talk but only before the judge.
According to a paper in the secured letters, the "treatment" was
given against a sum of 3000 English Pounds.
District attorney Dr. Leutenbauer was informed per phone. He issued the
arrest warrants and ordered to secure the evidence.
Ms. Schwarz provided a medical attest about the cuts on the hands that
she suffered and filed a penal complaint against Vosper and Mathewson
on charges physical injuries.
Participation of family Schleuter is eliminated.
Not completed are photos, Federal central register and information
about the main offender and their organization. They will be submitted
once received.
Official in charge
(signature A. Meßner)
Senior police inspector
Barbara Schwarz
HEINEMANN, LOFFELMANN, ROHMANN ETC. CREATE, A FIELD IN WHICH
SCIENTOLOGISTS ARE INJURED!
TILMAN LIED IN MANY EARLIER POSTINGS ALSO ABOUT ME THAT I NEVER WAS
KIDNAPPED. HE LIED THAT I STAGED THE KIDNAPPING. TILMANN IS A LIAR. HE
HAS NO HUMAN QUALIFICATIONS AT ALL. HE BLAMES ME ON WHAT HE IS GUILTY
OF. IF I WOULD SUE TILMAN BEFORE A IMPARTIAL JUDGE HE WOULD HAVE A LOT
MORE TO PLEAD GUILTY FOR THAN A HALF A SENTENCE THAT WAS MADE IN GOOD
FAITH AS ME IN THE LOFFELMANN MATTER.
READ THIS, THE DOC SAID THAT I WILL NEED LONG TIME PSYCHOTHERAPY. AND
NOW READ WHAT THE OTHER DOC WROTE JUST A FEW DAYS LATER WHO COMPELTELY
CONTRATICTED THIS DOC IN REGARDS TO THE THERAPY.
Barbara Schwarz
Administration Union Hospital Seefeld 8031 Seefeld,
Hospital for Surgeries Hauptstr. 23
Chief physician Dr. Karl Häser, MD
Phone 08152/7721
November 12, 1987
Ms. Dr. Sla/züp
To attorneys
Blümel/Henning/Reichert/
Kutscher/Bergsteiner
Bayerstr. 13
8 Munich 2
Regards: Your letter of November 25, 1987
Patient Barbara S C H W A R Z
Incident November 11, 1987
Dear attorneys,
we want to provide you with following medical report.
I. Medical history:
Ms. Schwarz entered our out patient clinic on November 15, 1987, at 2
am in the morning. She was admitted by three paramedics, who brought
her from the police station in Herrsching in a medical ambulance car.
She reported that she was kidnapped the day before, on November 14,
1987 around 1 pm by three men and that she was asked my her sister,
after they received a distress phone call, to deliver an emergency
Asthma medication to her mother in a house in Herrsching, because the
mother allegedly was looking for a place to rent. According to her
sister, the mother suffered a severe Asthma attack.
After Ms. Schwarz entered the house with the Asthma medication, she was
jailed by three men from England and kept in the house. The men told
her that they want to "deprogram" Ms. Schwarz from her religion. The
patient tried to get the neighbors attention by screaming and slammed
with her hands in the windows. She injured herself but was not allowed,
despite urgent requests, to see a doctor to let him surgically attend
those injuries.
After she was finally freed, she came from the police station to us for
medical treatment.
II. Clinical diagnosis
Bewildered, exhausted patient, in emotional stressed mood.
Little right finger:
Old cut wounds, approximately one centimeter long, 0.5 cm deep, over
the middle joint dorsal, as well as over the left heel of hand, ulnar.
III. Diagnosis:
1. Emotional shock
2. Old cut wounds on right and left hand
IV. Therapy:
1. Talk about the situation
2. Disinfection of the wounds, Polvidon-Iodine
-salve bandage, tetanus simultane injection
V. Estimated healing period:
Unfortunately, when cut wounds aren't immediately surgically attended,
it must be counted with a delayed secondary healing time. Based on
this, gross scars may remain.
In regards to the emotional exceptional situation, that Ms. Schwarz
lived through and the life threatening remarks of the three men, is it
good possible that Ms. Schwarz will developed for a prolonged time
incident related anxieties, which might need long time psychotherapy.
(Signature) (Signature)
Dr. Slavin (MD) Dr. Häser (MD
Assisting physician chief physician
Zinj
@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, BarbaraSc...@excite.com
says...
<snip>
> Exactly. It is not true. I made a statement in good faith and
> Loffelmann's witnesses fabricated additions tot he statement that I
> never made
Barbara, we know you're a liar. Youve proven it. Here.
You even lie about being a liar when presented with
incotrovertible evidence of your lies.
That's the problem.
Once a liar; always a liar.
It's quite possible that something you might say might be true,
but, there is no way to judge that.
You are a liar. A liar doesn't have to lie about *everything*.
He/she/it might only lie about 'always signing my posts'. That's
enough to make *everything* dubious. You might sometimes be
telling the truth. About how the 'Church' called you in for a
conference. They will deny it. And *you* are a liar :)
Zinj
Barbara Schwarz
MORE NESESSARY TO GET OVER THE KIDNAPPING AND THE ABUSE. THANKS TO RON
FOR DEVELOPING SCIENTOLOGY.
W. Kühnemann, MD
Physician for surgery, accident surgery
Head physician of the surgery ward of
the Riefler Clinic in Munich, Germany
Dr. med W. Kühnemann, Helene-Mayer-Ring 14, 8000 Munich 40, December
3, 1987
Attorney
Blümel
Bayerstr. 13
8000 Munich 2
Schwarz Barbara, residing in Arnulfstrasse 140, 8000 Munich 19
employed as advisor of publishing house Meister Verlag
Dear Mr. Blumel,
Ms. Barbara Schwarz entered on November 20, 1987 in my clinic, informed
that she was kidnapped and suffered an injured right, and left hand.
The day of the incident was November 14, 1987 at 12 pm. The first
treatment was provided by the hospital Seefeld.
My findings of the first examination:
Credible information by the patient, condition of a severe shock, blood
pressure 90/60 mmhg, cut wounds on 4th and 5th finger, right, broad
gash in left palm. Grazes on palm and left and back of right hand.
Bruised right upper arm and toes with definitive painful limitation of
movement of hands, especially the fingers. The fingers were
overstretched. The fist closure and stretch is restricted. Furthermore,
there are pressure pains and bruise marks in the area of the upper
breast vertebrae column with painful head turning restriction. There is
an immediate connection between the attack and the injuries.
The injuries are considered medium severe. There is a reduction in
earning capacity
of a 100 % from 15. November - 10. December 1987
30% from 11. December - 15. January 1987
20% from 25. December - 15. January 1988
Beyond that, no permanent damage will remain.
With kind regards,
Dr. W. Kühnemann, MD
Barbara Schwarz schrieb:
Tilman Hausherr
>>
>> In Germany, Barbara Schwarz claimed that a scientology critic,
>> Theologist Hans Löffelmann, had given information from a confidential
>> conversation with her mother to journalists. Löffelmann sued. Babbles
>> did not even contest the claim, she accepted it. I.e. she admitted that
>> she had lied.
>>
>> http://www.ingo-heinemann.de/Kritiker-sind-Verbrecher-1982.htm
>
I've mentioned it before, but there's an incredible amount of noise on ars :-(
Tilman
realpch
You should have seen the "noise" when I read it translated through
Babelfish, but I did get the jist of it.
: )