Jeff's LA Picket KR
cultxpt
Monday I drove to Perris California with a stop in Hemet to see Ida
and drive by Golden Era Studios. The studios now have so many trees and
bushes growing along the highway that it's hard to see much, but I saw
a few people working on the apartments on the south side. They're
still not done by any stretch though.
In the morning I drove by a property outside Perris that is supposed
to be a Scientology-related school, but it just looked like a house on
a way-off road. In Riverside I looked up a few things at the county
recorder's. I noticed somewhere in the records that Building Management
Services owns or has the address 2618 Hyperion Road in Los Angeles. I
drove into LA and got to the Sizzler on Hollywood Blvd. about 12:45. I
had told Barb I'd try to meet her at 12:30 but wasn't sure when I'd get
there. Barb wasn't there so I ate and was just leavng when I saw her
driving up on her motorcycle. She said she'd been stuck in traffic. So
I watched her eat and wind down from the trip.
To make parking easier, Barb asked the Sizzler manager if she could
park her bike in back out of the way and come back in a couple of
hours. He said fine. So we went to the Hubbard Life Exhibit on
Hollywood Blvd.
First we drove by the Hyperion address. It's a small business
building that seems to be divided by 3 businesses, the middle one
(2618) being Allstate Insurance.
Xenu and I parked and picketed in front of the Life Exhibit from
about 3-4:30pm. There seemed to be fewer pedestrians than normal, but
I handed out about 2 dozen flyers perhaps, and Xenu handed out some
too. The Scientologists called the cops again, so the female cop
dutifully told us the rules of picketing and left. Several passersby
videotaped and photographed Xenu.
As we were picketing, several Scientologists were going in and out
of the building all dressed up, and other staff were carrying more
formal clothes, no doubt for the New Year's event that night at the
Shrine Auditorium. One younger woman in a beautiful gown carried an
office box in and out with a label that said "CST Project." She walked
about a half block down Hollywood Blvd and was apparently waiting there
to be picked up.
At least 7 large buses came and parked right in the street beside
the Life Exhibit, and we saw a few staff getting on before we drove
away. I was wondering, why would so many Scientologists be at the Life
Exhibit building before the New Year's event? Unless these were all
staff? I don't know.
After we left the picket we decided to check out the Big Blue
building on the way back to Sizzler to get Barb's bike, then go to the
Shrine Auditorium to picket the event there (scheduled to start at
6:30pm). As we drove around the Big Blue on LRH Way, a white van
pulled up along side us at the light and Ed Richardson yelled at us "I
have a message for you!" The light changed and I drove off. Richardson
followed us. In fact he followed us for several miles, through back
streets and everything. When he got behind us at a red light he'd come
up to my window with his cell phone out and say "I have a message for
you!" I'd say "happy birthday to you too!" and drive off. But when we
pulled into the Sizzler parking lot, apparently the important message
wasn't so important anymore because Richardson just drove on by and we
never saw him again.
At the Sizzler we discovered that Barb's motorcycle was gone. I at
first assumed it was stolen. But we called the police and it had been
towed "at the request of the Sizzler." So we talked to the Sizzler
manager again. He said he never authorized that the motorcycle be
towed. So... what happened? Apparently somebody posed as the manager
and got the towing company to tow the bike. Who would do that?
While we were calling around with my cell phone in the car to figure
out where the bike was, a guy came up to my window and said "are you
through today?" I assumed this was a Scientology PI so I said "no." He
then invited Barb and I to dinner, but we declined. We were kind of
busy.
So finally we got the address and instructions to get the bike back.
We went to the yard and talked to the guy who towed the bike. He said
that he went to the Sizzler after a call from there. A worker was
outside and said she'd take the paperwork in for the manager to sign.
So the towing guy only dealt with an "employee" of Sizzler who was
outside and went in briefly.
After paying the fee and asking directions, we headed off for the
Shrine Auditorium, with Barb following me on her bike.
I went a few miles past the Shrine turnoff by mistake, so we stopped
and got directions (and solicits from a few homeless people). By the
time we got to the Shrine it was about 7pm. There was quite a bit of
traffic there of Scientologists still driving in (remember the 6:30pm
starting time?). But we decided it would not be wise to park our cars
near the Shrine where we could not see them, especially because both
have "xenu.net" bumper stickers. So we drove past and parked behind
the Burger King to decide what to do. I saw a silver SUV park nearby
that I was sure was a PI, though I'm not sure how I knew that (perhaps
they were following us from our travels near the Shrine). Suddenly a
smaller man in a suit approached Barb by her bike. I took his photo
thinking it might be a Scientologist. He was actually a nice Italian
guy, who was just asking directions and objected to having his picture
taken. I showed him that I erased it and we had a nice conversation
about the PIs following Barb and me. He seemed gung ho to go check out
the PI with me, so we started walking toward the SUV. Suddenly the SUV
slammed into reverse and shot back into the Denny's part of the parking
lot. He even squealed his tires. So, with my camera out, we tried to
approach the SUV, but he shot out of the parking lot and I didn't get a
picture.
A while later I walked to the street corner to see which streets we
were on so we could see how to get to the freeway. As I was walking
over there a guy walked up to me and said "Hi, Jeff. Remember me?" He
looked kind of like the actor William Hurt but I said no. I looked at
the street signs and he asked why I was there. I said I'm fighting a
cult that kills people, bye, and walked back to my car.
Barb decided to try to stay at a friend's for the night, and I
decided to head home. So I followed her out with the idea that she
would go one way and I'd go another, and the PI could only choose one
of us. And indeed, an SUV (or maybe 2) followed us out. But then Barb
got confused about directions so we did a u-turn, which slowed the
tail. By the time the PI was back up to us, Barb was quite a ways down
the road. I don't think she was followed. I was. So I stayed on back
streets. I saw a cop car parked at a gas station, so I pulled in there
and talked to the cops about stalking laws and such, and tried to point
out the SUV that was following me as he u-turned. We talked for about
5 minutes or so, and when I left I don't think I was followed from then
on. I drove to an undisclosed location and spent the night, and had a
flat tire in the morning. I then drove home.
This is true.
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Quaoar
"cultxpt" <cul...@ev1.net> wrote in message
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You and Barb are, well, courageous for doing essentially a solo picket,
especially at this event. Fortunately, except for the cost of
recovering Barb's Beemer, neither of you came to physical harm, although
it might have been close had you both not become aware of the threat. I
think this points out the need for camera and cell phone backup to
thoroughly document any miscreant activity on the part of the kult and
to call for 911 assistance if necessary. I think the Brits have
non-participant backup at pickets just for this kind of eventuality.
Perhaps they can comment on their practices.
A wounded animal can be extremely dangerous, and the kult might fit the
model. 2005 has been the Year of the $cientology Footbullet, and they
might be waking up to the fact that there is not much they can do to
handle their self-inflicted embarrassments except on a visceral,
personal level, back to the period ten years ago when personal attacks
on many fronts was the name of their game.
Your experiences might be the opening gambit in a return to overt,
physical, and legal attacks against critics after several years of
remaining quiet, believing that they had 'won'. I'm not suggesting
that anyone decline to picket, but that more and better organization is
necessary. Easy for me to write from where I reside far away in a
relative kult-free zone, but worth considering nonetheless. Keith
Henson became entangled through what seemed at the time to be innocuous
comedy in which he was a minor participant in the "Tom Cruise Missile"
event. Critics cannot be too careful with a frustrated $cientology and
a megalomaniacal, angered DM.
Q
cultxpt
work out. I do think this was pretty scary after we left the Life
Exhibit. I mean, everywhere we turned, there was a Scientologist! very
creepy.
I did try to take photos of the PIs but it didn't work.
Also, we definitely decided that we would be in too much danger if
we picketed the Shrine that night. I do believe that either our
vehicles or perhaps ourselves could have come to harm had we picketed.
This event gave me the willies more than almost any other Scientology
activity I've been in, even including the Mad Picket in Clearwater.
There was just something very, very strange about how Scientology dealt
with us. And notice, all that happened was 2 people picketed for 1 1/2
hours! That's all we did!
.
Zinj
cul...@ev1.net says...
> There were potentially other picketers coming, though that didn't
> work out. I do think this was pretty scary after we left the Life
> Exhibit. I mean, everywhere we turned, there was a Scientologist! very
> creepy.
> I did try to take photos of the PIs but it didn't work.
> Also, we definitely decided that we would be in too much danger if
> we picketed the Shrine that night. I do believe that either our
> vehicles or perhaps ourselves could have come to harm had we picketed.
> This event gave me the willies more than almost any other Scientology
> activity I've been in, even including the Mad Picket in Clearwater.
> There was just something very, very strange about how Scientology dealt
> with us. And notice, all that happened was 2 people picketed for 1 1/2
> hours! That's all we did!
Congratulations on trusting your instincts.
Zinj
--
If you don't understand Scientology, it looks like mental illness.
Once you *do* understand Scientology, it looks like deliberate mental
illness
Zinj
zinj...@yahoo.com says...
<snip>
> Congratulations on trusting your instincts.
Scientology is creepy for *good reason*
roger gonnet
"Zinj" <zinj...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
MPG.1e1d5c9fc...@news.day.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <MPG.1e1d5b85a...@news.day.sbcglobal.net>,
> zinj...@yahoo.com says...
>
> <snip>
>
>> Congratulations on trusting your instincts.
>
> Scientology is creepy for *good reason*
>
Thanks a lot for the great report, Jeff, and Thanks a lot for you both to have
picketed and -once again - demonstrated how little this maffiiose organization
has in common wxith a religion.
Can one imagine a XXIth century religion paying PIs to follow critics, to steal
their motorcycle or flatten their car's tires, or sending policemen everytime it
sees anybody near their strongholds where prisoners are kept and silences by
blackmail and slave work?
It shows clearly as well that, whatever their upper criminal chiefs say, the
cult is using the exact same tools of defamation, fair-gaming and false
denounciations as before, when their criminally convicted con-man founder was
still alive.
There is almost no difference of handling and manipulation of people between
Miscavige and Hubbard. A = A = A ?? Miscavige ? A small ugly dwarf's liar clone
of Hubbard.
r
Hartley Patterson
> I think the Brits have
> non-participant backup at pickets just for this kind of eventuality.
> Perhaps they can comment on their practices.
We have if possible one person with a camera who doesn't get too involved
and is ready to photograph any incidents. But then Jeff and Barb are
experienced picketers and need no advice from us.
> Your experiences might be the opening gambit in a return to overt,
> physical, and legal attacks against critics after several years of
> remaining quiet, believing that they had 'won'.
It's just how they do things near ASOs, which have expensively trained
staff they cannot afford to lose. In England, entheta activity near Saint
Hill upsets them far more than anywhere else.
--
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http://www.daisy.freeserve.co.uk/faq.htm
Hartley Patterson
> This event gave me the willies more than almost any other Scientology
> activity I've been in, even including the Mad Picket in Clearwater.
> There was just something very, very strange about how Scientology dealt
> with us. And notice, all that happened was 2 people picketed for 1 1/2
> hours! That's all we did!
They have procedures in place and they used them without regard to the
circumstances. If there had been 100 picketers the reaction who have been
the same.
Rev. David Rice, Esq.
> My Trip to Los Angeles, 12/26-27/05
(Trimmed)
> After we left the picket we decided to check out the Big Blue
> building on the way back to Sizzler to get Barb's bike, then go to the
> Shrine Auditorium to picket the event there (scheduled to start at
> 6:30pm). As we drove around the Big Blue on LRH Way, a white van
> pulled up along side us at the light and Ed Richardson yelled at us "I
> have a message for you!" The light changed and I drove off. Richardson
> followed us. In fact he followed us for several miles, through back
> streets and everything. When he got behind us at a red light he'd come
> up to my window with his cell phone out and say "I have a message for
> you!" I'd say "happy birthday to you too!" and drive off. But when we
> pulled into the Sizzler parking lot, apparently the important message
> wasn't so important anymore because Richardson just drove on by and we
> never saw him again.
Any bets the "message" was "Barb's motorcycle is being towed?"
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barb
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"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release
form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."
This assistance might involve holding you against your
will for an indefinite period, isolating you from
friends and family, and denying you access to
appropriate medical care. You will of course be billed
for this treatment - assuming you survive it. If not,
the release form absolves your caretakers of all
responsibility for your suffering and death.
Welcome to the Church of Scientology."
--Dr. Dave Touretzky
Peter Alexander
Feisty
Why did they call the cops? Is there a law in the United States about suppressive people?
Didn't think so.
Xenu is a representation of L Ron Hubbard, and belongs near every $cientology building.
Good on the flyers!
> As we were picketing, several Scientologists were going in and out
> of the building all dressed up, and other staff were carrying more
> formal clothes, no doubt for the New Year's event that night at the
> Shrine Auditorium. One younger woman in a beautiful gown carried an
> office box in and out with a label that said "CST Project." She walked
> about a half block down Hollywood Blvd and was apparently waiting there
> to be picked up.
> At least 7 large buses came and parked right in the street beside
> the Life Exhibit, and we saw a few staff getting on before we drove
> away. I was wondering, why would so many Scientologists be at the Life
> Exhibit building before the New Year's event? Unless these were all
> staff? I don't know.
Are there really 7 buses worth of people in the building? Maybe it was a caravan stopping
by numerous places.
> After we left the picket we decided to check out the Big Blue
> building on the way back to Sizzler to get Barb's bike, then go to the
> Shrine Auditorium to picket the event there (scheduled to start at
> 6:30pm). As we drove around the Big Blue on LRH Way, a white van
> pulled up along side us at the light and Ed Richardson yelled at us "I
> have a message for you!" The light changed and I drove off. Richardson
> followed us. In fact he followed us for several miles, through back
> streets and everything. When he got behind us at a red light he'd come
> up to my window with his cell phone out and say "I have a message for
> you!" I'd say "happy birthday to you too!" and drive off. But when we
> pulled into the Sizzler parking lot, apparently the important message
> wasn't so important anymore because Richardson just drove on by and we
> never saw him again.
Bizarre. "I have a message for you." Is that like ET has phoned home?
> At the Sizzler we discovered that Barb's motorcycle was gone. I at
> first assumed it was stolen. But we called the police and it had been
> towed "at the request of the Sizzler." So we talked to the Sizzler
> manager again. He said he never authorized that the motorcycle be
> towed. So... what happened? Apparently somebody posed as the manager
> and got the towing company to tow the bike. Who would do that?
$cientology handles Barb by impersonating a manager at the Sizzler. There was a story
about ordering pizzas at one time iirc, is this how Hubbard tech progresses and helps the
mind?
Too strange.
> Barb decided to try to stay at a friend's for the night, and I
> decided to head home. So I followed her out with the idea that she
> would go one way and I'd go another, and the PI could only choose one
> of us. And indeed, an SUV (or maybe 2) followed us out. But then Barb
> got confused about directions so we did a u-turn, which slowed the
> tail. By the time the PI was back up to us, Barb was quite a ways down
> the road. I don't think she was followed. I was. So I stayed on back
> streets. I saw a cop car parked at a gas station, so I pulled in there
> and talked to the cops about stalking laws and such, and tried to point
> out the SUV that was following me as he u-turned. We talked for about
> 5 minutes or so, and when I left I don't think I was followed from then
> on. I drove to an undisclosed location and spent the night, and had a
> flat tire in the morning. I then drove home.
> This is true.
Thanks for the report. Good picket. It is evident that $cientology wanted to drive you
both out of town. With the recent news coverage of Tom Cruise, news of Xenu all over the
media, the Secret Scriptures win in court by Xenon and Karin, the nature of shielding
members already vulnerable to this message, is a threat for those working long hours to
produce what looks like 8 million members (that they don't have.) A big part of the New
Years gala is to show how packed it is to sell other members of the fake membership
numbers.
It is obvious that two - just two people can make a big difference, to see how they
reacted and most likely spent a great deal of time and money to come off so paranoid. (I
would assume they did, unless all not on the cult payroll were "volunteer ministers")
All this because of free speech. That is something that is most damaging to $cientology.
Feisty
ida...@aol.com
counted.
I am happy you both arrived home safely. We know how far the cult has
gone in the past to silence the truth.
Ida
"You must have crossed the river to tell the crocodile he has bad
breath"
Chinese Proverb
Pts 2
Scientology event I've been in, even the Mad Picket in Clearwater."
Assuming you meant the December 1997 picket where you, me, and about 25
of us where surrounded by 800 Ronbots counter-protesting us as
"religious bigots" and "outsiders" from gulf coast Florida, that says a
lot!!! That was willie city IMO -- very scary.
None-the-less, congrats to you and Barb for persevering in this effort!
Tom
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Magoo
Thanks, Jeff............excellent report.
I'm pretty sure I know the guy who came up to you who looks like
William Hurt..........he's an OT 7 , and an OSA volunteer, if it's the guy
I'm thinking of.
Glad you got home safe> What a bunch of M O R O N S, C of S is
to not only lie, have Barb's bike illegally towed, but to then sic PI's on
you..........................
Always great to know "Where your money goes", to those Scios still in who
are lurking here.
Religion? Oh yea, sure.
Happy New Year One and ALL ~~
Tory/Magoo~~
Magoo
> There were potentially other picketers coming, though that didn't
> work out. I do think this was pretty scary after we left the Life
> Exhibit. I mean, everywhere we turned, there was a Scientologist!
Didn't Barb dress up in the Xenu costume? If so, that's why there were
Scientologists on every turn....................can't have the ol
Scientology public find out about such things, eh? I told a friend, who has
nothing to do with this, about Scios "In" Not knowing about Xenu.
They laughed their asses off tonight, and said to me: "You've GOT to be
kidding me, right?"
Sadly, no I'm not.
very
> creepy.
For sure.
> I did try to take photos of the PIs but it didn't work.
> Also, we definitely decided that we would be in too much danger if
> we picketed the Shrine that night. I do believe that either our
> vehicles or perhaps ourselves could have come to harm had we picketed.
> This event gave me the willies more than almost any other Scientology
> activity I've been in, even including the Mad Picket in Clearwater.
> There was just something very, very strange about how Scientology dealt
> with us. And notice, all that happened was 2 people picketed for 1 1/2
> hours! That's all we did!
Isn't it just totally amazing what 2 people can do? Imagine what else went
on behind the scenes. Oh boy! HI DM and OSA :)
Rockin New Year, eh? We think so, too! Say "Hi" to my buddy, Little Tommy
Cruise, too, and please wish him a VERY Happy New Year from myself and I'm
sure many of the critics, too.
Tory/Magoo~~