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Graham Berry  
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From: "Graham Berry" <grahambe...@comcast.net>
Date: 26 Jul 2006 10:13:42 -0700
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Subject: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
            THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

Over the past weeks I have had occasion to be very very impressed by
the boxed multi-volume multi-media submissions, of the Leona Valley and
Bouquet Residents, to the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors; and arguing
that the proposed Leona Valley Narconon facility "will negatively
impact the safety and welfare and property values of neighboring
communities."

Some of the information contained in those submissions is eerily
familiar to many who have had to confront the dark side of Scientology
for any length of time. For example: (1) [Exhibit D, pp.27-28] the
alleged drug bust frame-up of 'a California Health Department
official... who had produced a highly critical report,' resembles a
similar incident experienced by former top scientology official Jesse
Prince; (2) [Exhibit L, pp. 83-84, and Exhibit T, pp. 121-128] the
photographs of private investigators Edwin Richardson and Talon
Executive Services is not news to many who have spoken out against
Scientology and later had these people "investigating" them in the
neighborhoods and workplaces. Both Talon and Richardson have
"noisily" investigated me at Scientology's behest ("... when we
want some-one haunted we investigate." L. Ron Hubbard); (3) [Exhibit
L, pp.85-87] the expression of support and solidarity by L.A. Sheriff
Lee Baca is curious. One of his own lieutenants has warned me that my
life may be in danger from Church of Scientology paid hit men [and I
have received Secret Service protection in Germany]; (4) 'the
increased fire risk from so many smoking scientologists' is truly a
very serious and real concern. Hubbard was a chain smoker and many
scientology staffers try to 'assume his valence' by doing the same
thing.

Besides, Hubbard teaches that "the way out is the way through," as
demonstrated by the Hubbard comment that smoking more cigarettes is the
way to cure lung cancer! (5) The public health, safety and welfare
concerns addressed in Exhibits O, P and R are also serious issues. The
Purification Run down can be dangerous enough. But what about the
dangers of the "isolation rundown" if some-one has a psychotic
break, or 'Potential Trouble Source Type III (PTS-Type III)'
condition as it is known in the cult? We only have to remember Lisa
McPherson, all those scores of cockroach bites, and an ambulance ride
past the three closest hospitals to the one furtherest away where there
was a doctor who belonged to the Church of Scientology.

And what about the down-played relationship between Narconon and the
Scientology cult? Well there's a whole three minute submission right
there!

In fact, I was so impressed by the presentation of the Leona Valley
residents, and so disturbed by what some of them had to tell me, that I
attended the meeting of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors on
July 25, 2006. There are only five supervisors for the entire Los
Angeles County; it's been only five since the very early days of the
County. Consequently, they are probably the five most powerful local
politicians in the entire nation.

Each of the five Supervisors should be old enough to remember when
eleven top Scientologists (including Hubbard's wife) were convicted
and imprisoned in connection with the largest ever known criminal
infiltration of the United States government. That concerned
Scientology's 'Operation Snow White,' to rid all public files of
anything negative about the Church of Scientology. 'Operation Snow
White' continues today. There have been reports that the
communications from those opposed to the Leona Valley Narconon facility
have 'disappeared' from the files of the Board of Supervisors. Many
expert observers would opine that this has all of the "hall marks"
of a Church of Scientology-OSA "file culling project."

The Board of Supervisors meeting room probably seats 400 people and it
was nearly full. Later we would learn from the President of Narconon
International that Narconon [a/k/a the Church of Scientology] had over
200 people there to speak in favor of the Narconon facility. To my mind
that was an exaggeration by about 100.

Certainly there were a number of senior staffers from the Scientology
enterprise.  One of the CSI Office of Special Affairs ('OSA')
in-house attorneys, Elliot Abelson, Esq., greeted me but otherwise
would not engage me in conversation. He limped slightly and looked
quite over weight, wan and ill. Another observer commented to me that
'one cannot get involved in all of the bad karma that surrounds
Elliot without it festering up inside.' Of course, Abelson's sick
look might also be put down to too much scientology 'processing.'
It may also be due to the same disciplinary affliction that ails his
OSA work buddy Mike Rinder!

The very Reverend Lynn Farny, OSA Legal Unit and Secretary of Church of
Scientology was more forthcoming. Lynn seemed genuinely pleased that
there isn't much scientology related litigation happening at present.
That made him available for other assignments. "I'll be back to put
things right," I told him. I think he knew I was talking of the
Vexatious litigant ruling and all of the associated perjury, bribery,
blackmail, fraud and corruption. Farny once claimed to be the one who
devised the Cipriano corruption directed against me. More recently,
Farny's wife (another Scientology staffer) was implicated in some
potential jury tampering.

I commented to Farny that Scientology seemed to be on a big building
buying spree in Europe (Paris, Brussels and Berlin). Right next door to
the European Community building I noted. "It's the new wave,"
Farny beamed. "I'm wondering where the wave of money is coming
from," I replied. "From the wave of new members," Farney shot
back, as he walked off. "Yeah, right, the wave of new members," I
replied as he walked off, too quickly for me to add, "in all of those
empty course-rooms on both sides of the Atlantic." Then I thought,
'why should Rev. Farny worry about empty course rooms at the bottom
of the pyramid now that the Church is again so feverishly involved with
corruption at all levels of government and law enforcement?' In
Scientology's copyrighted Policy Letter "Target Defense," Church
of Scientology staffers are informed of: "Target 1, depopularize the
enemy (Scientology's opponents) to a point of total obliteration;
Target 2, take over the control or allegiance of the heads or
proprietors of all news media; Target 3,  take over the control or
allegiance of key political figures..."

If Lynn Farny had stuck around I might have asked about: the four
British Labor Party members of the European Parliament who are now said
to be Scientologists; or the several German judges who may have been
compromised by the cult; or the appointment of a guardian ad litem for
a Hamburg infant to ensure that the infant is protected from the cult
in a custody battle involving a very senior German Scientologist, her
son and her daughter-in-law; and whether the European prime real estate
buying spree is due to money-laundering as police in Hamburg, Brussels
and Amsterdam might suggest,  or due to the movement of U.S. dollars
off-shore as other Europeans have suggested. And then I wondered what
he would have thought of Ursula Caberta still being where she is, and
what he thought of David Miscavige still being where he is? Isn't he
embarrassed by a cult leader who is accused of physically striking his
senior staffers on a regular basis, and extolling them to emulate actor
Tom Cruise? And the Church of Scientology compares David Miscavige to
the Pope?

I also spoke with Narconon's attorney who I recall introducing
himself as David Carlton, Esq. I was told his office is in Irvine,
Orange County. He recognized my face from somewhere but could not tell
me from where. I did not enlighten him other than to tell him I was
"part of the other side; the light side."

I was carrying my papers in a large manila envelope with a bumper
sticker attached clipped to it. The bumper sticker had been given to me
by the wonderful and inimitable Ida Camburn and it read:

                                www.xenu.net
                      What Scientology doesn't want you to read

I had walked in and out of the auditorium several times, carrying my
envelope past the block of about one hundred scientologists, before the
Sheriff's Deputies at the entrance door told me they had received a
complaint and to cover my envelope when inside the actual hall. They
were polite and I complied.

Shortly afterwards a group of two thuggish looking brutes and a woman
sat down opposite me and started staring non-stop at me. They were
surrounded by scientologists. The two men glaring at me looked too
thuggish to be even bad P. I. s. After awhile I went over and said to
the closest brute: "You are staring at me. Do I know you?" He
growled, "I don't speak English. I'm Italian." Well at least he
speaks some English, I thought. And then he turned to the thug behind.
"Are you private investigators?" I asked. "No, we're not
private investigators," the lady interrupted. Sure, I thought as I
returned to my seat across the aisle. Talon's own imported Sicilian
thugs more likely, and here to dish out the usual Scientology
'psycho-terror.' I'd bet that they even drive leased white Ford
Explorer SUVs!

It wasn't long before the Board of Supervisors reached the agenda
item so many of us were waiting for. Sam Dea was representing the
Regional Planning Commission. He reported that the Narconon facility
would have no substantial adverse impact upon the area. I thought he
either had not read or considered the Leona Valley and Bouquet Canyon
resident's submissions, or the cult had corrupted yet another public
official, high up in the Regional Planning Commission. If so, that's
more corruption the very Scientology-friendly Sheriff Baca will not be
investigating. Hundreds of brain-washed Scientology staffers can
provide a generous political donor base. They were for the late John
Ferraro when he presided
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Graham Berry  
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From: "Graham Berry" <grahambe...@comcast.net>
Date: 26 Jul 2006 10:17:37 -0700
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

Note email address correction:

grahambe...@comcast.net

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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:58:20 -0400
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

Graham Berry wrote:
>            THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

> Over the past weeks I have had occasion to be very very impressed by
> the boxed multi-volume multi-media submissions, of the Leona Valley
> and Bouquet Residents, to the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors; and
> arguing that the proposed Leona Valley Narconon facility "will
> negatively impact the safety and welfare and property values of
> neighboring communities."

Thanks for taking the time to write this report and for bravely standing up
to the cult.

Patty

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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:15:33 -0700
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"Patty Pieniadz" <ppieniadznos...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Graham Berry wrote:
>>            THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

>> Over the past weeks I have had occasion to be very very impressed by
>> the boxed multi-volume multi-media submissions, of the Leona Valley
>> and Bouquet Residents, to the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors; and
>> arguing that the proposed Leona Valley Narconon facility "will
>> negatively impact the safety and welfare and property values of
>> neighboring communities."

> Thanks for taking the time to write this report and for bravely standing
> up to the cult.

Ditto!

Susan

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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:36:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
On 26 Jul 2006 10:13:42 -0700, "Graham Berry"

<grahambe...@comcast.net> wrote:

Thanks for the report Mr. Berry.  Appreciated.

--
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Date: 26 Jul 2006 14:04:22 -0700
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From: Zinj <zinji...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:19:12 GMT
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
In article <1153947861.966068.213760@
75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, banchuk...@yahoo.com says...

<snip>

> Wow! The girl who grabbed you thought you should be *arrested* for
> having a *word* on a bumpersticker on your briefcase?

> A word that's not even in the dictionary?

> Scientology, Inc. is a terrorist organization with an antidemocratic
> agenda.

> -maggie, human being

What I find disturbing is that the sheriff's deputies didn't
seem to even consider taking action on an assault and battery
committed *right in front of them*.

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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:23:56 GMT
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"Graham Berry" <grahambe...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:42:35 -0700
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

I congratulate myself on having the good sense not to appear at a
hearing with serious Scientology interest with my arm in a sling
following last Thursday's surgery on it. I have no doubt that the cult
would have done *something* once they saw my wing in a sling.

It reflects on Scientology's character that I would even have such
concerns...

--
"I'm for the separation of church and hate."

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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:16:15 -0700
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

"Feisty" <su...@skytoday.com> wrote in message

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> "Graham Berry" <grahambe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1153934022.103907.83540@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>            THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

Thanks Graham, for this excellent write up about what all
went on there. Good God, are they getting it, or not?
I couldn't quite tell what the next steps are. When do they
vote, or will there be another hearing?

 Can you fill us in on what's next?

Thanks!

Tory/Magoo~~
PS: Super Congratulations to Dave Sweetland, ALL the Leonna
Valley people, and anyone else who went to partake. I'm sorry to say I could
not, due to work.

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Date: 27 Jul 2006 04:43:40 -0700
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Y'now, it occurred to me after reading Zinj's post that after twelve
years or so of following Scn, Inc. activities, that I *expect* that
kind of behavior from Scn, inc.

It disgusts me that we're so *used* to it by now that I didn't even
notice the assault and battery outlined in Mr. Berry's post as being
ignored by deputies.

I would *expect* barbz to be hassled, and maybe even hurt, if she had
showed up at that meeting.

Then again, I live near Clearwater.

In the past twelve years, I've seen the homes of individuals raided and
their computers confiscated because they dared to speak the truth.

I've seen our freedom to speak compromised by orange lines of paint.

I've seen murder go unpunished.

I've seen organizational policy of harassment deployed in a very real
manner on a community's population, strangling free discourse and
community identity, not to mention its tax base.

I've seen Mark Bunker, Mike Krotz, Jeff Jacobsen, and now Shawn
Lonsdale be assaulted in one way or another -- for the use of *words*
and that's just the ones I know about.

Now Graham Berry is assaulted for a *word*.

When does it end?

-maggie, human being


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Date: 27 Jul 2006 04:59:26 -0700
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:23:42 GMT
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In article <1154001566.104223.160860
@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, banchuk...@yahoo.com says...

<snip>

> Good point, Feisty!

> I know when I had my thyroid fried with radiation, I had to stay
> isolated from other people for like a week. The doctor actually told me
> to flush twice, to be sure the radiation in my pee was carried away
> from the house, so it wouldn't hurt others.

> I asked at the time if there wasn't a better way to dispose of the
> waste than to introduce it to the water system.

> What would happen with a houseful of people leaking like that? Why
> isn't that on the table with ANY NArconon facility?

> -maggie, human being

The simple answer is that *nobody*, including Narconon, believes
in the 'theoretical basis' of the treatment.

Nobody believes it 'removes toxins'
Nobody believes it 'removes drugs'
Nobody believes it 'removes radiation'.

I've been asking for years now, based on the claims by Narconon
itself, and the 'Church' for its parallel 'Purif', why the
detritus of 'treatment' is being washed, completely untreated,
down the shower drains.

Why hasn't the EPA taken action?
Why don't the 'Church' or Narconon care?

Why isn't there any filtering or waste water treatment going on?

Because they all know it's crap.

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Date: 27 Jul 2006 05:08:52 -0700
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
In article <1153934022.103907.83...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, Graham Berry
says...

>Each of the five Supervisors should be old enough to remember when
>eleven top Scientologists (including Hubbard's wife) were convicted
>and imprisoned in connection with the largest ever known criminal
>infiltration of the United States government. That concerned
>Scientology's 'Operation Snow White,' to rid all public files of
>anything negative about the Church of Scientology. 'Operation Snow
>White' continues today. There have been reports that the
>communications from those opposed to the Leona Valley Narconon facility
>have 'disappeared' from the files of the Board of Supervisors. Many
>expert observers would opine that this has all of the "hall marks"
>of a Church of Scientology-OSA "file culling project."

Did you really have sex with underage boys in NY?
Were you labeled a Vexatious litigant by the courts in California?
Were you disbarred from practicing law in California by the California bar
association?
Are you still abusing drugs?


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In article <eaaack02...@drn.newsguy.com>, Fr...@spam.spam
says...

Do you still think your 'Church's' religious dogma of
'shuddering into silence' works?

Why?

Zinj
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From: barbz <xenub...@netscape.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:47:52 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 27 2006 10:47 am
Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

Have you stopped beating your wife, "Frank?"
Do you know what suborning perjury means?

>>Graham Berry
>>Attorney
>>(310) 745-3771
>>grahambe...@comcast.net

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Barb
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Graham Berry  
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From: "Graham Berry" <grahambe...@comcast.net>
Date: 27 Jul 2006 09:36:37 -0700
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

> Would you want a religious mafia such as the Church of Scientology,
> America's own Taliban, in your neighborhood, destroying America one
> citizen at a time?
> "By their deeds ye shall know them." Just watch Scientology's
> shills attack me for this expression of free speech and opinion!
> Graham Berry
> Attorney
> (310) 745-3771
> grahambe...@comcast.net

And here the Church of Scientology's Office of Special Affairs,
operating out of the HGB Building at 6331 Hollywood Boulevard, Los
Angeles, acting robotically as brain-washed "ron-droids," begins it's
ad hominem attack using their own manufactured, perjured and disproven
allegations [for example: google search "Cipriano and Moxon."] Of
course, they also violate their IRS section 501 (c) (3) status and 1993
tax settlement agreement.

Graham Berry


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From: "Rev. Norle Enturbulata" <notearthligh...@norhotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:18:01 +0100
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

Readers, the above is a splendid illustration of the loving communications
skills practiced by Scientologists, when encountering someone who tells the
truth about the cult.

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* " You can write that down in your book in great big letters.  The only way
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*  -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
*
* "...Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her
crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes
exist...."
* L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
*
* "All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All
mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!"
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From: Howard <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:33:01 +0100
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

Hello spam spam

I do hope you'll feel confident enough to turn your questions into
statements - together with any supporting evidence. Otherwise
people might just think that you're merely another OSA/CCHR/CoS Newsguy
creep.

"What are your crimes?"  As if we didn't already know.

Howard
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From: "John" <j...@junk.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:35:26 +1000
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

"Zinj" <zinji...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:MPG.1f327a459d93c6d49896af@news.day.sbcglobal.net...

Sometimes there's urine as well.

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Date: 27 Jul 2006 17:23:34 -0700
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

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From: "rockyslammer" <rockyslam...@postmaster.co.uk>
Date: 27 Jul 2006 21:27:09 -0700
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Subject: Re: THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY
Exellent report Graham.

As the person who (shamefully) delivered the Saint Hill (real one)
purif for many months at my home sauna - for thje "boys" only - I saw
many many purifs delivered.  Saint Hill didn't have a sauna and I did -

when the purif was first "invented".

Not once did I see any "dirt", "minerals", "toxins" or anything else
sweated out on the nice clean white towels I provided.  Nor did I see
"anything" turn on in the sauna.  Not once did I hear anything positive

about the rundown.  Yes there were those cases that had heavy drug
usage including LSD.  No I didn't see any "trips" in the sauna as I was

told to watch out for - as the locked away LSD would re-enter the blood

stream again!

In fact the opposite.  In my own case my stomach was burnt by too much
vitamin C - ever since then I have had to take medication to ease the
burning sensation in my stomach.  Drinking an egg cupful of oil?
Massive niacine flushes?  Bollocks!

I did have someone have an epileptic fit in the sauna which was
mindblowing.  Can you imagine getting a naked body out of a sauna,
writhing, with a damned hot stove inches away?  I never saw that person

again, although there was a full recovery a few minutes later.  I guess

Tory can tell us about that!!

Purif?  I wouldn't give a &*^%$# for it!  It is total bollocks and you
can tell them I said so!


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Discussion subject changed to "Libel on L. Ron Hubbard snipped" by I am being defamed and forged here
I am being defamed and forged here  
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From: "I am being defamed and forged here" <StilllovingMa...@myway.com>
Date: 27 Jul 2006 22:53:35 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 28 2006 1:53 am
Subject: Libel on L. Ron Hubbard snipped

Graham Berry schrieb:

> THE LOS ANGELES BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCIENTOLOGY

> Over

Libel on L. Ron Hubbard snipped. The website on Graham Berry is still
up and running strong.

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry1.html

Barbara Schwarz


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