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IntergalacticExpandingPanda

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May 12, 2008, 1:49:54 AM5/12/08
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I've been watching the actions of the protests Anonymous organized. I
stated I'm not a member of Anonymous and reserve the right to be
critical of them. I complained about trash detail which I believe was
resolved (thanks guys).

But what evil thing could they have done this time?

1) Burnt your Bible?
2) Stole your home?
3) Raped your dog?
4) Touched a brick building?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73xfhIYSGcM

On the one hand... I do have to agree that it's probably not OK to
touch the building. If you watch their other videos you'll see the
building is right "next" to the public sidewalk. It's OK to address
building touching IMHO.

On the other, from what I'm reading, the Rentacops were antagonistic.
There isn't tape of them threating one anon... so I can't accept that
as fact at present.

Conclusion: While it's easy to do after you've been on your feet for
a few hours, avoid touching their building. I don't know if there is
a law on the books on the subject, but it is a legit complaint even if
it's being petty and trivial. Not that I actually care, but this is
the sort of crap the PD gets called out for, and it's best to avoid
making them go through extra hassles.

Askren

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May 12, 2008, 2:04:12 AM5/12/08
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On May 12, 1:49 am, IntergalacticExpandingPanda

Actually, if you're allowed on the property (and it looked like they
were not 5 feet from said building), you can touch a building. It's
the Rent-a-cop security guards that get paid to sit in front of the
Org on raid days and give people a hard time. I had a nice
conversation with the regular at our local NYC org one day, and he
pulled the whole "Listen, man, I just wanna do my job here." shit when
he tried to prevent Anon and pedestrians from WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK
in front of the Org. Now, anyone who knows the city knows that
sidewalks in Times Square get heavy foot traffic, so this was next to
impossible.

But if touching a building is Anon's biggest hate crime of the day,
then wow. Scilons must really be running out of shit to complain about.

Tom Newton

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May 12, 2008, 2:02:31 AM5/12/08
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On 2008-05-12, in
<d4289f88-9f07-4509...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.co
m> IntergalacticExpandingPanda
<intergalactic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I've been watching the actions of the protests Anonymous
> organized.


> I stated I'm not a member of Anonymous

That's not true: You talk and act like an "Anonymous" member, you
ARE one.

There is no other way to define a member of "Anonymous".
By their own doing.

You can say it if you want. But don't expect a judge to
believe it. Or any sensible person, for that matter.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

> and reserve the right to be critical of them. I complained
> about trash detail which I believe was resolved (thanks guys).
>
> But what evil thing could they have done this time?
>
> 1) Burnt your Bible?

> 2) Stole your home?

> 3) Raped your dog?

> 4) Touched a brick building?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73xfhIYSGcM
>
> On the one hand... I do have to agree that it's probably not OK
> to touch the building. If you watch their other videos you'll
> see the building is right "next" to the public sidewalk. It's
> OK to address building touching IMHO.
>
> On the other, from what I'm reading, the Rentacops were
> antagonistic. There isn't tape of them threating one anon... so
> I can't accept that as fact at present.

"Anonymous" is hostile. Why would the security guards be anything
else?

You reap what you sow.

> Conclusion: While it's easy to do after you've been on your
> feet for a few hours, avoid touching their building. I don't
> know if there is a law on the books on the subject, but it is
> a legit complaint even if it's being petty and trivial. Not
> that I actually care, but this is the sort of crap the PD gets
> called out for, and it's best to avoid making them go through
> extra hassles.
>

Here's some better advice: Get a life. If you don't have anything
better to do than harass a religous minority, you are a fucking
LOSER.

Tom

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The Truth will set you free:
http://www.sethcenter.com

IntergalacticExpandingPanda

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May 12, 2008, 2:56:51 AM5/12/08
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On May 11, 11:04 pm, Askren <huntermage1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, if you're allowed on the property (and it looked like they
> were not 5 feet from said building), you can touch a building. It's
> the Rent-a-cop security guards that get paid to sit in front of the
> Org on raid days and give people a hard time. I had a nice
> conversation with the regular at our local NYC org one day, and he
> pulled the whole "Listen, man, I just wanna do my job here." shit when
> he tried to prevent Anon and pedestrians from WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK
> in front of the Org. Now, anyone who knows the city knows that
> sidewalks in Times Square get heavy foot traffic, so this was next to
> impossible.
>
> But if touching a building is Anon's biggest hate crime of the day,
> then wow. Scilons must really be running out of shit to complain about.

[a better view of the org @ 0:54]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zPDOjP4ne3I

The building can be touched from the sidewalk, as in the building is
right NEXT to a highway. I imagine it's not unusual for someone
waiting for a bus to lean up against it, which is rather reasonable.
There isn't a main entrance there, and the windows are small side
windows barely 32 inches wide.

I'm not sure what the rule of law is... only it's something they
complained about, it's petty and trivial but is the the sort of thing
they'd likely pester the PD about.


John

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May 12, 2008, 3:00:14 AM5/12/08
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"IntergalacticExpandingPanda" <intergalactic...@hotmail.com>
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Unless there is *any* sign of vandalism, or other damage, or signs of
attempts to damage the wall, I think you'd find the police dragged out to
investigate this "crime" would be well annoyed at the CoS for wasting their
time.


IntergalacticExpandingPanda

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May 12, 2008, 3:01:23 AM5/12/08
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On May 11, 11:02 pm, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
> That's not true: You talk and act like an "Anonymous" member, you
> ARE one.

No, I'm not. I'm not part of the Chan culture. I had to be told what
mudkips were in detail... and I thought they were shouting "Sea-
King!" I am sea-king? Are you?


> If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

If it walks like a mudkip, talks like a mudkip

> "Anonymous" is hostile. Why would the security guards be anything
> else?

They should be out there securing something.

> Here's some better advice: Get a life. If you don't have anything
> better to do than harass a religous minority, you are a fucking
> LOSER.

Sorry Charley... but the cult does it's best to harass anyone who
dares to ask questions of it. It's rather how many become critics.
Now if they actually kept to them selves, and didn't freak out and cry
"hate crime" the moment someone asked about the organization, this
might be different.


Askren

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May 12, 2008, 3:07:00 AM5/12/08
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I can't speak for anywhere else, but in my experience, especially
since Anon started prodding the Scilons, the cops HATE them.

Like I said, any min raid, flyering, or even handing out cards near a
Stress Stest table, they go straight for 911 and callin 'Harassment'.
And the cops HAVE to respond, even when they know it's nothing.

Which is why when we mini-raid, we make sure to pop up all over
Manhattan, so each Stress Test table will call the police and the cops
will end up running around at the Scilons crying 'wolf'.

But in this case, cops aren't involved, just hired security guards.
But from the looks of the building/street layout in the second video,
I'd say anyone who walked that sidewalk and tripped, or reached their
hand out would be in clear violation of the "DONT FUCKING TOUCH THIS
BUILDING RAWRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" law the Scilons seem to have.

annon...@gmail.com

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May 12, 2008, 3:25:31 AM5/12/08
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On 12 mai, 09:01, IntergalacticExpandingPanda

Dear Tom Newton

Keep all evidences of the abuses of your Church

Make copys of all KR on you (and on your friends)

Guve all this datas to a lawyer

It's not possible to remain in a sectarian and totalitarian group all
your life.

You could have more friends, more money, more fun, more chidrens

Jean-Luc Barbier

Tom Newton

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May 12, 2008, 3:26:09 AM5/12/08
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On 2008-05-12, in
<6610440b-7e69-40d4...@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.co
m> IntergalacticExpandingPanda
<intergalactic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On May 11, 11:02 pm, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
>
>> That's not true: You talk and act like an "Anonymous" member,
>> you ARE one.
>
> No, I'm not. I'm not part of the Chan culture. I had to be told
> what mudkips were in detail... and I thought they were shouting
> "Sea- King!" I am sea-king? Are you?

I am not talking about whatever garbage you are referring to there.

Those are terms that are not commonly used on ARS, if at all.

>> If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....
>
> If it walks like a mudkip, talks like a mudkip

I don't know what a mudkip is and couldn't care less.

>
>> "Anonymous" is hostile. Why would the security guards be
>> anything else?
>
> They should be out there securing something.

That's what they were doing. Discouraging people who were
threatening their employers.

Duh.

>
>> Here's some better advice: Get a life. If you don't have
>> anything better to do than harass a religous minority, you are
>> a fucking LOSER.
>
> Sorry Charley... but the cult does it's best to harass anyone
> who dares to ask questions of it.

That's a lie. An outright ugly lie.

A favorite of "Anonymous's".

Anyone can walk in any org or mission in the world and ask
the Scientologists any question they want.

But the questions of "Anonymous" are along the lines of:

"Have you stopped beating your wife yet."

And that's harassment.


When you harass someone, expect to get harassed back.

That's the way the world works.


I hope they stomp you into the ground.

IntergalacticExpandingPanda

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May 12, 2008, 3:56:34 AM5/12/08
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On May 12, 12:26 am, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
> > If it walks like a mudkip, talks like a mudkip
>
> I don't know what a mudkip is and couldn't care less.

You don't like mudkips? I thought you would.

> That's what they were doing. Discouraging people who were
> threatening their employers.

Threating their employers building? From being touched? I'll have
to agree you shouldn't touch the building, but it's hardly an excuse
to get nasty about it. Those guys need to know their place. They
have NO authority what so ever to regulate speech

> > Sorry Charley... but the cult does it's best to harass anyone
> > who dares to ask questions of it.
>
> That's a lie. An outright ugly lie.

No it isn't. You know it to be true.


> Anyone can walk in any org or mission in the world and ask
> the Scientologists any question they want.

Then they get asked to leave if they ask "certain" questions, then
call the police for trespassing. For a church... they are rather
"invite only". But that's the thing, it's not actually a church is
it? They don't even call them Churches. They call them Orgs.

> But the questions of "Anonymous" are along the lines of:
>
> "Have you stopped beating your wife yet."
>
> And that's harassment.


That certainly is... and come to think about it... IRC that was
something covered in one of Mark Bunker's videos during the LMT days.
The OSA goons would ask questions like that... did you stop beating
your wife to come here, are you having an affair, if your wife going
to leave you now you are sleeping with someone else. And yes, that is
harassment... Co$ should be ashamed... but they are not. In fact it
seems they encourage "bull-bating".

> When you harass someone, expect to get harassed back.

That's what the rent-a-pigs need to understand. It's their job to
protect the property and people... and that's it. It's not their job
to regulate speech.

> I hope they stomp you into the ground.

I thought I was in your kill file dude, for being a brain dead bigot.

IntergalacticExpandingPanda

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May 12, 2008, 4:15:20 AM5/12/08
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On May 12, 12:07 am, Askren <huntermage1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> But in this case, cops aren't involved, just hired security guards.
> But from the looks of the building/street layout in the second video,
> I'd say anyone who walked that sidewalk and tripped, or reached their
> hand out would be in clear violation of the "DONT FUCKING TOUCH THIS
> BUILDING RAWRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" law the Scilons seem to have.

Or, if you are holding a sign and want someone to pass, it's easy to
touch the building.

Well, I'm sure it's property they rent from the mother church, so to
be fair, while it's petty and trivial, they have a right to complain.
I'm trying to be fair on this issue... as fair as I can be. One
should respect their property and not use it as a vehicle to pose like
James Dean.

However, I doubt there is an actual law, since trespass would usually
cover this.

cin...@gmail.com

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May 12, 2008, 8:17:12 AM5/12/08
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On May 12, 4:15 am, IntergalacticExpandingPanda

Regardless of who you talking to or how unfairly they have treated you
I don't think anyone should be that rude. Sure thouse cops were jerks
but i think if the anon had been nicer it probaly would have bothered
them more. They got the type of reaction they were looking for,All
anons should be polite at all times to anyone

obscene dog

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May 17, 2008, 6:22:58 PM5/17/08
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On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:02:31 -0700, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2008-05-12, in
><d4289f88-9f07-4509...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.co
>m> IntergalacticExpandingPanda
><intergalactic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been watching the actions of the protests Anonymous
>> organized.
>
>
>> I stated I'm not a member of Anonymous
>
>That's not true: You talk and act like an "Anonymous" member, you
>ARE one.

So are YOU, Tom / Alan.

--
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http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml

Tom Newton is Alan Connor.

pooky621a

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May 17, 2008, 8:20:28 PM5/17/08
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On May 12, 12:26 am, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
> On 2008-05-12, in
> <6610440b-7e69-40d4-be99-a1ba3fe21...@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.co
> m> IntergalacticExpandingPanda

HAVE you stopped beating your wife yet?

Jeff L

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May 17, 2008, 9:35:03 PM5/17/08
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pooky621a wrote:
> HAVE you stopped beating your wife yet?

Tom doesn't have a wife. No real woman would willingly go anywhere near
50 yards of him.

Askren

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Android Cat

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obscene dog

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Sweet Raptor Jesus.

She has a face like a obscene bulldog chewing a wasp.

--

Don't get in front of me.
What the... Oh, shi-

Askren

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On May 19, 1:38 pm, obscene dog <obscene....@xenu.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:54:54 -0700 (PDT), Askren
>
> <huntermage1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 17, 9:35 pm, Jeff L <jeffrey.lat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> pooky621a wrote:
> >> > HAVE you stopped beating your wife yet?
>
> >> Tom doesn't have a wife. No real woman would willingly go anywhere near
> >> 50 yards of him.
>
> >Not even her?
>
> >http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9283/dsc00079ft2.jpg
>
> Sweet Raptor Jesus.
>
> She has a face like a obscene bulldog chewing a wasp.
>
> --
>
> Don't get in front of me.
> What the... Oh, shi-

Her name is Toni Chrambanis, D/CO EXTERNAL, OSA EUS in the NYC Org,
and has worked DSA and OSA in Boston.

That is her /b/ face.

obscene dog

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that is one fugly woman.

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