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Mike Rinder is now also on the RFW

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Barbara loves Marty

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:48:27 PM11/21/09
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According to the RFW, he said he became a clone of Marty Rathbun.

(He can't mean the original Marty, because he does not remind me to
the original Marty.)

Let's hope they save a spot for DM on this website, after all, he gave
those people who create a bad image for Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard
top management positions and is ultimately responsible for the fight
club and abortions that were conducted to stay in his org, etc. It is
all so off policy.

L. Ron Hubbard would turn DM over to the authorities.

As DM has nobody above him, there are no such confessions by him,
right?

Barbara Schwarz

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/mike-rinder/

MIKE RINDER IN HIS OWN WORDS

You may be aware of recent statements to the press from Mike Rinder
regarding his former religion and his tenure within Scientology’s
religious order known as The Sea Organization. Religious Freedom Watch
has obtained material from public statements made by Mike Rinder.
These include public apologies and statements he made concerning
actions he had taken while in the Church—statements he made when he
was not trying to garner sensational headlines attacking his former
religion. To address a predicted false accusation about this material,
Religious Freedom Watch is assured (and it is obvious from the content
to any knowledgeable person) that nothing contained here came from any
confidential confessional material. All of it consists of words Rinder
wanted his peers at the time he was still in the Church to know about
what he had done.

“I’ve wanted COB to be involved in external flaps… This is a
computation I have used on media and legal situations and it has
resulted in me having COB involved in matters he shouldn’t have been.”

- Mike Rinder

“I emulated Marty… I thought he was the person I should act like—and I
did. I became a clone of him but totally subservient to him in all
respects—I never disagreed with him on anything and had tacit
agreements with him that anything he did or said was ok.”

- Mike Rinder

“With all the justifications I have had in place, telling the truth
under certain circumstances was in my universe no different than
telling a lie or withholding.”

- Mike Rinder

“[Name] was called over by Marty and attacked by Marty for not doing
something. Marty beat him up and [name] was very shaken up… I didn’t
have the courage to counter Marty and…It was a direct overt on
[name].”

- Mike Rinder

“I doped off in a meeting with a reporter from Premier magazine. Marty
and I were meeting with [name] from Premiere in the boardroom at the
HGB. It was a long meeting and quite contentious. I was sitting on the
other side of the table from [name] (same side as Marty). We were
showing him a video and I started doping off. I am not sure if [name]
noticed or not but it was terrible out PR.”

- Mike Rinder

“My stats suck. I have produced practically no VFPs in the last two
years… I have become untrustworthy, I cannot be guaranteed to get
something done if sent to do it. Thus, my value to the group is very
small. I have it this way in an effort to avoid responsibility. I
became an “expert” only in handling “legal” matters and those stats
stink.”

- Mike Rinder

“… I was lazy. I took the course of least resistance and quickied
things because I was unwilling to be responsible, while I pretended
responsibility by “helping”.”

- Mike Rinder

“I have committed Suppressive Acts over an extended period of time. I
have been off-Source and squirrel, violating Keeping Scientology
Working, dramatizing self-importance, operating on service facs and
evil purposes.”

- Mike Rinder

Hein. T. Schaylich

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:55:12 AM11/22/09
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These sound like confessions from the mock trials held in Russia when Stalin
was in power.
If there is any advice to be given to Scientology management, it would be to
keep a lid on these.
This is very bad PR.

I have the feeling that Scn management has lost its grasp on what "wogs"
consider to be fair and just.

"Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralov...@gmail.com> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag
news:322a68ed-5ad7-4be8...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...


According to the RFW, he said he became a clone of Marty Rathbun.

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/mike-rinder/

xenufrance

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:17:43 AM11/22/09
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"Hein. T. Schaylich" <hein.sc...@web.de> a �crit dans le message de
news: heb1q5$9vf$1...@online.de...

> These sound like confessions from the mock trials held in Russia when
> Stalin was in power.
> If there is any advice to be given to Scientology management, it would be
> to keep a lid on these.
> This is very bad PR.
>
> I have the feeling that Scn management has lost its grasp on what "wogs"
> consider to be fair and just.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralov...@gmail.com> schrieb im
> Newsbeitrag
> news:322a68ed-5ad7-4be8...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> According to the RFW, he said he became a clone of Marty Rathbun.
>
>
>
> http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/mike-rinder/
>
>
>
> MIKE RINDER IN HIS OWN WORDS

Great indeed. Interestingly enough, there is no page about David Mayo, who
was Hubbard's right arm for eons.
And created a cult all by himself, before being attacked by crime cult
leader Dwarfscabbage.

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/david-mayo/


Peter Schilte

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:49:53 AM11/22/09
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On 22 nov, 02:48, Barbara loves Marty <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> According to the RFW, he said he became a clone of Marty Rathbun.
>
> (He can't mean the original Marty, because he does not remind me to
> the original Marty.)
>
> Let's hope they save a spot for DM on this website, after all, he gave
> those people who create a bad image for Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard
> top management positions and is ultimately responsible for the fight
> club and abortions that were conducted to stay in his org, etc. It is
> all so off policy.
>
> L. Ron Hubbard would turn DM over to the authorities.
>
> As DM has nobody above him, there are no such confessions by him,
> right?
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
> http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/mike-r...

So, this is what a man becomes when in the cult for many years. Thank
you RFW for showing the evil things scientology does to people.

Peter

"Remember one thing, we are not running a business, we are
running a government.
We are in direct control of people's lives.
But for the first time we are not making victims of them,
we are making them more able.
So bring order into these
people's lives."
- HCO Secretary WW2
© 1975 L. Ron Hubbard Library

http://www.scamofscientology.nl

Patty Pieniadz

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:38:08 AM11/22/09
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LOL! Mike Rinder's pix is right next to Barbz! How fucking sweet is
that!

Barbara loves Marty

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:52:48 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 4:17 am, "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
> "Hein. T. Schaylich" <hein.schayl...@web.de> a écrit dans le message denews: heb1q5$9v__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z...@online.de...

>
>
>
> > These sound like confessions from the mock trials held in Russia when
> > Stalin was in power.
> > If there is any advice to be given to Scientology management, it would be
> > to keep a lid on these.
> > This is very bad PR.
>
> > I have the feeling that Scn management has lost its grasp on what "wogs"
> > consider to be fair and just.
>
> > "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> schrieb im

> > Newsbeitrag
> >news:322a68ed-5ad7-4be8...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> > According to the RFW, he said he became a clone of Marty Rathbun.
>
> >http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/mike-r...

>
> > MIKE RINDER IN HIS OWN WORDS
>
> Great indeed. Interestingly enough, there is no page about David Mayo, who
> was Hubbard's right arm for eons.
> And created a cult all by himself, before being attacked by crime cult
> leader Dwarfscabbage.
>
> http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/david-...

There was no RFW when David Mayo was declared.

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara loves Marty

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:59:00 PM11/22/09
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This is not Scientology but DM's management.

It is strange that there are no SP declares anymore and the RFW is
substituted for people having committed suppressive acts.
I can only explain it that it would look very bad on DM when his right
hands that he kept in power for decades were SPs and he didn't check
it.

For me, it doesn't matter what apostates say about DM. For me matters
what Tommy David acknowledged and that told me that DM's org is
downtone beyond belief and completely off source.


Barbara Schwarz


Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for over 11 years!

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:13:00 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 4:55 am, "Hein. T. Schaylich" <hein.schayl...@web.de>
wrote:

> These sound like confessions from the mock trials held in Russia when Stalin
> was in power.
> If there is any advice to be given to Scientology management, it would be to
> keep a lid on these.
> This is very bad PR.
>
> I have the feeling that Scn management has lost its grasp on what "wogs"
> consider to be fair and just.
>
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> schrieb im
> Newsbeitragnews:322a68ed-5ad7-4be8...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

> According to the RFW, he said he became a clone of Marty Rathbun.
>
> http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/mike-r...

The inclusion of yet another poseur of such magnitude on RFW might
just motivate me enough to seek being removed... guilt by association
and all that...

Regards
Arnie Lerma
Lermanet.com

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