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Mike Rinder is still working for David Miscavige and the Scientology cult

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Gerry Armstrong

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Jul 7, 2008, 11:03:13 PM7/7/08
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Scientology cult head David Miscavige wants Mike Rinder to remain
silent. Rinder is complying.

Miscavige's command intention for Rinder is that he not help the
cult's victims. Rinder executes this commnd intention perfectly.

As an ex-Sea Org member, Rinder does exactly what Miscavige wants:
remain silent, not write his knowledge of Scientology cult fraud,
abuses and criminality into declarations or affidavits, not contact
the people that he helped and still helps to victimize, and not assist
his cult's victims.

Scientology is still Rinder's cult, because he still works for
Miscavige, the cult's head.

Rinder spends all day doing exactly what Miscavige wants, working
diligently to execute Miscavige's command intention for him.

Every person in the world, according to Miscavige, is on his org
board. Rinder is on Miscavige's org board as an ex-Sea Org member.
Rinder is a perfectly compliant ex-Sea Org member.
http://carolineletkeman.org/sp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1220&Itemid=240&limit=1&limitstart=2

I am also an ex-Sea Org member on Miscavige's org board, but I am
noncompliant, and I work very hard at being perfectly noncompliant by
not executing Miscavige's command intention; by not remaining silent,
by writing my knowledge of Scientology cult fraud, abuses and
criminality into declarations or affidavits, by contacting the people
Miscavige and his cultists have victimized, and by assisting the
Miscavige cult's victims.

There are all sorts of seemingly legitimate reasons for Rinder to
continue to work for Miscavige and execute Miscavige's command
intention.

Miscavige may have hold of one or more of Rinder's family members, and
Rinder may feel that Miscavige will have them disconnect if Rinder
stops doing exactly what Miscavige wants him to do.

Rinder has undoubtedly committed all sorts of crimes while in the Sea
Org, or in OSA. He certainly told countless lies and committed
countless sociopathic acts against good people while in the Sea Org
and OSA. So Rinder may fear that he could be prosecuted, or pilloried,
or embarrassed if he stopped working for Miscavige and instead
testified, wrote declarations or spoke publicly about his knowledge of
his, or Miscavige's, or other Scientologists' lies, sociopathy and
crimes.

Miscavige may be threatening to murder Rinder if he stops working for
Miscavige, and speaks out about the fraud, abuses and crimes he
witnessed or knows about in Scientology.

Miscavige may be keeping Rinder working for him and executing
Miscavige's command intention by threatening to divulge crimes or
immorality that Rinder confessed to in all his auditing sessions in
Scientology and the Sea Org.

Rinder knows what Scientology fair game is, because for decades he
participated in fair gaming many good people for Miscavige. So Rinder
may be terrified of Miscavige now having him fair gamed if he stops
working for Miscavige.

Miscavige may have conned or threatened Rinder into signing a contract
containing language that prohibits Rinder from stopping working for
Miscavige. Rinder undoubtedly knows that the attorneys Miscavige has
hired are ruthless, conscienceless bullies and liars, who are happy to
take millions in fees to judicially enforce such unconscionable
contracts, and love to use the law to harass and utterly ruin
Miscavige's victims and any ex-Sea Org members who stop working for
him.

Any or all of these reasons for Rinder and other ex-Sea Org members to
keep working for Miscavige and keep executing his command intention
are seemingly legitimate. It should be observed that any or all of
these reasons are also seemingly legitimate, and certainly effective,
in keeping Sea Org members working for Miscavige in the SO, and in
keeping OSA personnel working for Miscavige in OSA.

Rinder is to be pitied, in fact forgiven, as every person who works
for Miscavige in any capacity, inside or outside the Sea Org or OSA,
is to be pitied and forgiven. But pitied or not, and forgiven or not,
Rinder works for Miscavige, works for the Scientology cult, and
executes Miscavige's command intention for him.

Every ex-Sea Org member, or ex-Scientologist, regardless of their
former capacities, posts or activities in the SO or Scientology, if
they remain silent, if they don't write their knowledge of Scientology
cult fraud, abuses and criminality into declarations or affidavits, or
if they don't in some real and realistic way help their cult's
victims, are still working for Miscavige and still executing his
command intention for them.

It is high time that Rinder and everyone, every man, woman and child,
stop doing anything Miscavige wants them to do. When enough ex-Sea Org
members and ex-Scientologists stop complying with Miscavige's command
intention for them, all the seemingly legitimate reasons that keep so
many others working for him will disappear.

I'm expecting you.

Gerry Armstrong
#2-46298 Yale Road
Chilliwack, B.C. V2P 2P6
Canada
604-703-1373

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

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Jul 7, 2008, 11:45:40 PM7/7/08
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"Gerry Armstrong" <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in
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Mark Rathbun is still toeing the line, too.


Gerry Armstrong

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Jul 8, 2008, 12:04:15 AM7/8/08
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Yes he is. Rathbun is still executing Miscavige's sociopathic command
intention. Rathbun is on Miscavige's org board and complying with
Miscavige's orders. Rathbun should tell DM to take his command
intention and shove it.

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

feministe

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Jul 8, 2008, 4:05:06 AM7/8/08
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"Gerry Armstrong" <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> a écrit dans le message de
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> Scientology cult head David Miscavige wants Mike Rinder to remain
> silent. Rinder is complying.
>
> Miscavige's command intention for Rinder is that he not help the
> cult's victims. Rinder executes this commnd intention perfectly.
>
> As an ex-Sea Org member, Rinder does exactly what Miscavige wants:
> remain silent, not write his knowledge of Scientology cult fraud,
> abuses and criminality into declarations or affidavits, not contact
> the people that he helped and still helps to victimize, and not assist
> his cult's victims.

Would he do that, he could be indicted himself for all the crimes he has
committed: I'd say it could be what he fears most. Besides, after 40 years
in such an ambiance, he could think that he's risking his life, that critics
could use similar methods as himself used against them: he has done so much
that he must be half mad, and depriced of a part of his good sense.

From time to time, i'm reminding here that ex-members having ahd some
responsabilities in the cult should sort of "confess" what they think were
their biggest overts/sins against other members and staffs, or against
non-members.

Methinks it's great a way to get some more understanding of the way
scientologists do function.

roger gonnet

Magoo

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Jul 8, 2008, 2:53:08 AM7/8/08
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"Gerry Armstrong" <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in message
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If *every* person who knows Scientology is BULLSHIT (be it their crimes,
fraud, the breaking up of families, the using of young people, un-needed
deaths, suicides, medical abuses, and fair game, as well as their cons with
the front groups)---if EVERY person who is now "Under the radar" (being
silent, whether "in" or "out") stood up and said:

THIS IS IT: I'M NOT DOING THIS ANY MORE. I am done supporting "Dave" and his
utter weirdo-ness, and I AM going to tell ALL that I know re the
totalitarian organization known as C of $cientology---this game would be
OVER.

There are many people who have spoken out, but far too few when you KNOW how
many are allowing this abuse to continue, day after day.

BAIL from Davey's Abusive CULT and come clean and get free---for real. :)

Tory/Magoo~~Your local, Friendly, SP :)
www.youtube.com/ToryMagoo44


To You

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Jul 9, 2008, 7:33:38 AM7/9/08
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Now isn't that interesting. (see quote below, of Gerry Armstrong)

'

THE VERY SAME, that Gerry writes about Mike Rinder still comlying with
Miscavige's intentions, I could write about Gerry Armstrong still
complying with l. ron hubbard's intentions.

'

And so I will write, assuming that Gerry has some very faint desire
actually NOT to comply continuously with Hubbard's Intentions and
lies to destroy life.

Gerry Armstrong still refuses and continues to refuse to face
l. ron hubbard, and thereby he is complying with l. ron hubbard.

Not that I blame Gerry, but I simply point out that he does not.
It is difficult enough to face Hubbard.

'

I did read something related, from the "critic" Kristi Wachter,
(some demonic creature used it recently).

'

She, Kristi Wachter, a "critic," writes on her web site:

"Koos Nolst Trenite, Usenet Kook, Month, L. Ron Hubbard, others

"Date: February 1, 1995
"Koos Nolst Trenite wins a Usenet Kook of the Month award for his
posted transcripts of telepathic auditing of dead cult founder
L. Ron Hubbard and others.
"(categories: L. Ron Hubbard)"

That's ALL (!) she writes about Koos Nolst Trenite.

Thus the woman is Anti-Life, and violently insane, for that reason
alone already.

Gerry Armstreong is not different, an equally a Hubbard-embedded
"critic."

'

'

You are so inconceivably, so intensely Insane, so persistently
mean and Insane... not surprisingly, of cours, because you are
embedded in that very Energy where that "is normal," feels "normal,"
is thought to be "normal."

You are thus nauseatingly Insane, due to thge arrogance infused in you
by l. ron hubbard.

---

You being embedded in Hubbard's Energies, have everything in reverse:

How do you want to handle Hubbard, and Scientology, while
at the same time DENYING even his existence and all his
activities to drive and keep you insane and malicious,
utterly mean actually?

Well, embedded in Hubbard's ideas and feelings, all that
"is not true," "does not exist," and "you are 'opposing Hubbard',"

that's how intensely insane and actually very mean, you are.

A robot of a "non-existent," "dead" Hubbard - an enemy of Mankind
who pretends and is convinced by Hubbard that "you are fighting him."

'

If you (or anyone) would be fighting against Hubbard, you (or anyone)
would be fighting very hard FOR me, don't you see (Quod non).

Instead, your mean cowardice and highky destructive insanity, is shown
up by Kristi Wachter's: "Koos Nolst Trenite wins a Usenet Kook of the
Month award for his posted transcripts of telepathic auditing of dead
cult founder L. Ron Hubbard and others."

It is hard to face your intense Ugliness, but I can.

'

KNT hrp&p

Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright Conditions as usual ('learnware')

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Leonardo Been

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Jul 9, 2008, 2:14:03 PM7/9/08
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Now isn't that interesting. (see quote below, of Gerry Armstrong)

'

THE VERY SAME, that Gerry writes about 'Mike Rinder still complying


with Miscavige's intentions,' I could write about 'Gerry Armstrong
still complying with l. ron hubbard's intentions.'

It is so intensely disgusting, his compliance with Hubbard's
intentions, "do not look at people," "disconnect," "entheta,"
"safe space," "receive only communication you want," "create
your own reality," etc. etc. etc.:

The whole gammut - enforced by the equally psychotic and nauseating
"critics" of 'Scientology.'

'

'

And so I will write, assuming that Gerry has some very faint desire
actually NOT to comply continuously with Hubbard's Intentions and

Hubbard's lies to destroy life.

Gerry Armstrong still refuses and continues to refuse to face l. ron
hubbard, and thereby he is complying with l. ron hubbard.

Not that I blame Gerry, but I simply point out that he does not face
Hubbard at all. It is difficult enough to face Hubbard.

'

I did read something related, from the "critic" Kristi Wachter,

(because some demonic creature used it recently).

'

She, Kristi Wachter, a "critic," writes on her web site:

"Koos Nolst Trenite, Usenet Kook, Month, L. Ron Hubbard, others"

"Date: February 1, 1995
"Koos Nolst Trenite wins a Usenet Kook of the Month award for his
posted transcripts of telepathic auditing of dead cult founder
L. Ron Hubbard and others.
"(categories: L. Ron Hubbard)"

That's ALL (!) she writes about Koos Nolst Trenite.

Thus the woman, Kristi Wachet, is Anti-Life, and violently insane,


for that reason alone already.

Gerry Armstrong is not different, and equally a Hubbard-embedded
"critic."

'

'

You are so inconceivably, so intensely Insane, so persistently
mean and Insane...

not surprisingly, of course, because you are embedded


in that very Energy where

that "is normal," feels "normal," is thought to be "normal."

You are thus nauseatingly Insane, due to the arrogance infused in you
by l. ron hubbard.

---

You - being embedded in Hubbard's Energies - have everything in
reverse:

How do you want to handle Hubbard, and Scientology, while at the same
time DENYING even his existence and all his activities to drive and

keep you insane and malicious, and utterly mean actually?

Well, embedded in Hubbard's ideas and feelings, all that "is not
true," "does not exist," and "you are 'opposing Hubbard',"

- that's how intensely insane and actually very mean, you are.

A robot of a "non-existent," "dead" Hubbard - an enemy of Mankind who
pretends and is convinced by Hubbard that "you are fighting him."

'

'

If you (or anyone) would be fighting against Hubbard, you (or anyone)
would be fighting very hard FOR me, don't you see (Quod non).

Instead, your mean cowardice and highly destructive insanity, is shown


up by Kristi Wachter's: "Koos Nolst Trenite wins a Usenet Kook of the
Month award for his posted transcripts of telepathic auditing of dead
cult founder L. Ron Hubbard and others."

It is hard to face your intense Ugliness, but I can.

'

KNT hrp&p

Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright Conditions as usual ('learnware')


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On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:03:13 +0000, Gerry Armstrong wrote:

> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:03:13 GMT
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barb

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Jul 12, 2008, 9:35:01 AM7/12/08
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Both will probably do this until hauled into court, kicking and
screaming. Will they take the deal, or take the fall for Miscavige?

--
Barb "That's Captain Barbossa to you!"
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
It's Poodlin' Time!

“I think that the protections that we enjoy for freedom of worship exist
so long as we don’t step over the line. When religious worship and
belief cross over into things like fraud, victimization of others and
the disruption of the political arena, that protection is no longer
appropriate.”

--Robert Goff
Professor Emeritus, UCSC

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