Diane Richardson blows smoke out her ass.
Anonymous User
wrote:
>On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:34:27 GMT, "Magoo" <mag...@worldnet.att.net>
>wrote:
>
>>There's no questions that are uncomfortable.
>>What IS uncomcomfortable is you deminishing what was the effect on a man's
>>life by a so called "religion" named Sceintology..by pounding away at asking
>>what I said to him in four minutes on a phone call..days maybe weeks prior
>>to he taking his life.
>
>How does Lex asking you what you said to Greg Bashaw during your
>short telephone conversation "diminish" the effect of Scientology on
>Greg Bashaw's life?
Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a slimy
attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>I know you won't respond, since you cannot possibly have a logical
>explanation for this desperately irrational attempt to absolve
>yourself of any responsibility for your own words and actions.
It is no one's business what Tory says and does in private, as you well
know, Diane.
>But then, that's what you learned to do as a Scientologist for those
>thirty-whatever years when you worshipped the words of Hubbard.
>
>>If you are a critic...what is it you think actually drove this man to take
>>his life?
>
>People aren't "driven" to commit suicide.
I agree. So, Diane, why are you trying to insinuate Tory had a part in
pushing him in that direction? For all you know, the phone conversation
could have postponed it for several days until things then again built up
in him.
>>How does Scientology fit into the picture?
>
>He, along with his wife, were members of that high-control group.
But you are trying to tell us that Tory, in a 4 minute phone conversation,
had some sort of control over his suicide. Even to the point of insinuating
she was responsible for it.
It is obvious that scientology had a much, much greater affect on him.
Especially as he was not allowed back into his church and was forced to
disconnect from his former friends and aquaintances.
I think that Tory's phone call was simply not sufficient to make up for
these losses. What about his own family and psychiatrist? They spent weeks
and months with him on a daily basis. Why aren't you holding them
responsible?
>>Quit using their own Fair game
>>tactics to take the attention off of Scientology and onto me.
>
>What makes you believe Lex is engaging in CoS fair game tactics?
You are full of shit, Diane. One only has to read Sonja Mattson's inane
black PR posts for the last year.
>It certainly doesn't appear that way to me. Perhaps your extended
>membership in an organization as paranoid as the CoS has led you
>to hold what appears to be a somewhat irrational view of other's
>motives.
>
>>Do you feel
>>Scientology had anything to do with this man taking his life, and if
>>so...what?
>
>It probably did, along with a whole host of other personal matters of
>which neither you nor I know anything.
Knowing NOTHING, why are you trying to put some sort of blame on Tory for
his suicide, Diane?
>Don't you realize you're doing exactly what you accuse others of
>doing? You are so desperate to evade any responsibility for the
>tragedy that ended Greg Bashaw's life, you've become almost hysterical
>in efforts to place the entire blame onto only one cause -
>Scientology.
"desperate" ... "hysterical"
Cut the hyperbole, Diane. This post of yours is nothing but a replay of the
one you did months ago. I think 20+ years in the cult carries one hell of a
lot more weight than a 4 minute conversation on the phone.
I also think that people should look to scientology as the main causitive
factor in Greg's suicide. It has all the hallmarks of other suicides of
scientogists ... disconnection, SP declare. These are the factors that
should be discussed here. NOT a 4 minute conversation.
>You didn't learn enough about Greg Bashaw life in one four minute
>telephone conversation to have any concept of what his mental state
>was at the time, or how he might go about easing the situation.
But you, Diane Richardson, have learned enough, reading this ng, to
determine that Tory was somehow responsible for his suicide by having this
4 minute phone conversation.
>Come off it, Tory. Your LMT handlers asked you to intevene in
>something you had neither the knowledge nor the understanding
>to deal with. Your interference, along with that of other LMT idiots,
>might very well have made Greg Bashaw's bad situation even worse.
"might very well have"???? You are blowing smoke out your ass again, Diane.
>If your handlers ever try to manipulate you into handling something
>like this in the future, here's a word of advice:
"manipulate" ... "handlers"
More hyerbole, Diane. More smoke out of your ass.
>Telling a suicidal person to cheer up, go get a cream soda and dance
>in the moonlight is exactly the sort of thing you should NOT say.
You were privy to that 4 minute conversation? Tory has a tremendous
compassion for people as reflected in her posts here. I am confident that
her conversation with Greg was gentle, caring and entirely suitable. Maybe
you think that Greg should have been put on the Introspection Rundown and
have ALL communications, except from his auditor, cut off from him?
>So ... go have a cream soda, kid, and learn to recognize your own
>shortcomings.
When are you going to realize that blowing smoke out your ass in an attempt
to black PR Tory makes you look like one big asshole? You jumped on Tory
the moment she started posting as a critic here and tried to DA her. She
was too clean to do that so you reverted to your now standard method of
pulling balls of shit out of your own stinking ass and trying to smear
others with it. It doesn't work. You just end up with that shit on your own
face.
Ten years ago I had respect for you, Diane. Not anymore. Now feelings
towards you are disgust and revulsion.
You are becoming more and more like Sonja Mattson in your postings here and
that is nothing to be proud of.
>Diane Richardson
>ref...@bway.net
I have no intention of revealing myself to you, Diane. We have spoken face
to face many times in the past.
I have a feeling you would make a report to your OSA handlers. How did they
manage that? Did they get a video?
Feisty
Anonymous User <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote in message
news:4894039fdaf8735b...@remailer.havenco.com...
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:21:59 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:34:27 GMT, "Magoo" <mag...@worldnet.att.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> But you are trying to tell us that Tory, in a 4 minute phone
conversation,
> had some sort of control over his suicide. Even to the point of
insinuating
> she was responsible for it.
That would violate the $cientology "no-talk" rule. Could that be the
offense?
But Tory talks! She's out!!!!!!
Feisty
Diane Richardson
<anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:21:59 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:34:27 GMT, "Magoo" <mag...@worldnet.att.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>There's no questions that are uncomfortable.
>>>What IS uncomcomfortable is you deminishing what was the effect on a man's
>>>life by a so called "religion" named Sceintology..by pounding away at asking
>>>what I said to him in four minutes on a phone call..days maybe weeks prior
>>>to he taking his life.
>>
>>How does Lex asking you what you said to Greg Bashaw during your
>>short telephone conversation "diminish" the effect of Scientology on
>>Greg Bashaw's life?
>
>Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a slimy
>attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
>in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
It's interesting that you still post under more than one nym, Magoo.
I thought you gave that up once you quit posting on behalf of OSA.
I guess you're not one to give up old habits easily.
>>I know you won't respond, since you cannot possibly have a logical
>>explanation for this desperately irrational attempt to absolve
>>yourself of any responsibility for your own words and actions.
>
>It is no one's business what Tory says and does in private, as you well
>know, Diane.
If you choose to post about it to this newsgroup, then it is no longer
private, Magoo. I thought you were smart enough to realize that.
I guess you've proven me wrong.
>>But then, that's what you learned to do as a Scientologist for those
>>thirty-whatever years when you worshipped the words of Hubbard.
>>
>>>If you are a critic...what is it you think actually drove this man to take
>>>his life?
>>
>>People aren't "driven" to commit suicide.
>
>I agree. So, Diane, why are you trying to insinuate Tory had a part in
>pushing him in that direction?
I've never insinuated any such thing, Magoo. It's a pity you can't
come out and say that without hiding behind anonymity.
>For all you know, the phone conversation
>could have postponed it for several days until things then again built up
>in him.
I guess you would have a better idea about that if you had followed
up on the four minute conversation you had with him, Tory. It's a
pity you didn't. I guess your LMT handlers didn't include that in
their orders to you.
>>>How does Scientology fit into the picture?
>>
>>He, along with his wife, were members of that high-control group.
>
>But you are trying to tell us that Tory, in a 4 minute phone conversation,
>had some sort of control over his suicide.
I've never insinuated any such thing, Tory. This must be why you've
chosen to respond to my question through an anonymizer.
>Even to the point of insinuating
>she was responsible for it.
I've never insinuated any such thing, Tory. Might that be your own
conscience whispering such insinuations to you?
>It is obvious that scientology had a much, much greater affect on him.
>Especially as he was not allowed back into his church and was forced to
>disconnect from his former friends and aquaintances.
There are plenty of Scientologists who are declared, and even more who
are forced to disconnect from friends and acquaintances. Strange that
we don't see an epidemic of suicides, if what you say is actually
true.
Come to think of it, you yourself have been declared, Magoo. Yet you
haven't expressed any desire to commit suicide, even though you
struggled through the same OTVII course for years. If you are correct
in placing responsibility for Bashaw's suicide on the CoS and the
OTVII course, why is it that you haven't committed suicide too?
>I think that Tory's phone call was simply not sufficient to make up for
>these losses.
I doubt a cheery, upbeat 4-minute chat from you could make any
difference at all to the guy's mental condition, Tory. The strangest
thing about this is that the LMT (and you) appeared to believe it had.
>What about his own family and psychiatrist? They spent weeks
>and months with him on a daily basis.
They did? What was the psychiatrist's name? How often did he
see Bashaw, and for how long?
As to his family, I was under the impression that Bashaw's wife was
a dyed-in-the-wool Scientologist. Did you call Bashaw to try to
refute what his own wife was telling him, Tory?
>Why aren't you holding them
>responsible?
I think there's enough responsibility for all concerned in this sorry
affair. I'm just concerned about your complete inability to accept
the fact that you share in this responsibility, Magoo.
>>>Quit using their own Fair game
>>>tactics to take the attention off of Scientology and onto me.
>>
>>What makes you believe Lex is engaging in CoS fair game tactics?
>
>You are full of shit, Diane. One only has to read Sonja Mattson's inane
>black PR posts for the last year.
Now, now, Tory. No need to get upset.
>>It certainly doesn't appear that way to me. Perhaps your extended
>>membership in an organization as paranoid as the CoS has led you
>>to hold what appears to be a somewhat irrational view of other's
>>motives.
>>
>>>Do you feel
>>>Scientology had anything to do with this man taking his life, and if
>>>so...what?
>>
>>It probably did, along with a whole host of other personal matters of
>>which neither you nor I know anything.
>
>Knowing NOTHING, why are you trying to put some sort of blame on Tory for
>his suicide, Diane?
I'm not trying to blame you for Bashaw's suicide, Tory. I do,
however, find it exceedingly odd that you're incapable of discussing
this sincerely and openly. Hiding behind anonymity is something
you've bashed others for doing here time after time, but now you're
doing it yourself.
>>Don't you realize you're doing exactly what you accuse others of
>>doing? You are so desperate to evade any responsibility for the
>>tragedy that ended Greg Bashaw's life, you've become almost hysterical
>>in efforts to place the entire blame onto only one cause -
>>Scientology.
>
>"desperate" ... "hysterical"
>Cut the hyperbole, Diane. This post of yours is nothing but a replay of the
>one you did months ago. I think 20+ years in the cult carries one hell of a
>lot more weight than a 4 minute conversation on the phone.
It's a pity you can't face reality, Magoo.
>I also think that people should look to scientology as the main causitive
>factor in Greg's suicide. It has all the hallmarks of other suicides of
>scientogists ... disconnection, SP declare. These are the factors that
>should be discussed here. NOT a 4 minute conversation.
Magoo, you haven't committed suicide even though you've been in
exactly the same place as Greg Bashaw. You've been disconnected,
received an SP declare. What was the difference ... why would one
Scientologist be "driven" (to use your word) to suicide because of
exactly the same things while they didn't affect you that way?
Is it because you're a better or stronger person?
>>You didn't learn enough about Greg Bashaw life in one four minute
>>telephone conversation to have any concept of what his mental state
>>was at the time, or how he might go about easing the situation.
>
>But you, Diane Richardson, have learned enough, reading this ng, to
>determine that Tory was somehow responsible for his suicide by having this
>4 minute phone conversation.
I've never made any such determination, Magoo. I see you're still so
desperate to wriggle your way out of this you're willing to say
anything to divert attention away from your own actions.
>>Come off it, Tory. Your LMT handlers asked you to intevene in
>>something you had neither the knowledge nor the understanding
>>to deal with. Your interference, along with that of other LMT idiots,
>>might very well have made Greg Bashaw's bad situation even worse.
>
>"might very well have"???? You are blowing smoke out your ass again, Diane.
Now, now, Tory. No need to get vulgar, no matter how close to home
this might be.
>>If your handlers ever try to manipulate you into handling something
>>like this in the future, here's a word of advice:
>
>"manipulate" ... "handlers"
>More hyerbole, Diane. More smoke out of your ass.
The champion smoke blower on this newsgroup is -- and has been --
you, Tory. Have another cream soda and just forget about it.
>>Telling a suicidal person to cheer up, go get a cream soda and dance
>>in the moonlight is exactly the sort of thing you should NOT say.
>
>You were privy to that 4 minute conversation?
Of course I wasn't, Tory, but since you've decided not to disclose
what you said, all I can go on is what you've said on this newsgroup.
The topics you've brought up more often than any other during your
years of posting here is your delight in dancing and your craving for
cream soda.
>Tory has a tremendous
>compassion for people as reflected in her posts here. I am confident that
>her conversation with Greg was gentle, caring and entirely suitable. Maybe
>you think that Greg should have been put on the Introspection Rundown and
>have ALL communications, except from his auditor, cut off from him?
Nice little piece of self-congratulatory drivvel, Tory.
>>So ... go have a cream soda, kid, and learn to recognize your own
>>shortcomings.
>
>When are you going to realize that blowing smoke out your ass in an attempt
>to black PR Tory makes you look like one big asshole?
Perhaps when you realize that hiding behind a nym to respond to
other's question makes you look like an even bigger asshole, Tory.
>You jumped on Tory
>the moment she started posting as a critic here and tried to DA her.
Now that, my dear, is an outright lie. But hey, what else should we
expect from you.
>She
>was too clean to do that so you reverted to your now standard method of
>pulling balls of shit out of your own stinking ass and trying to smear
>others with it. It doesn't work. You just end up with that shit on your own
>face.
Hmmmm ... looks like "pulling balls of shit out of your ass" is the
current top-selling phrase on the #lies channel these days. Our very
own Little Miss Bunnyann has been vomiting that one up a lot lately.
>Ten years ago I had respect for you, Diane. Not anymore. Now feelings
>towards you are disgust and revulsion.
You didn't know me ten years ago, Tory. Thankfully, you still don't
know me. Even better, it's guaranteed you'll never know me.
>You are becoming more and more like Sonja Mattson in your postings here and
>that is nothing to be proud of.
You are becoming more and more like the Scientologist you once were,
Tory. Looks like OSA taught you well.
>I have no intention of revealing myself to you, Diane. We have spoken face
>to face many times in the past.
I've never spoken to you at all, Magoo, you silly fish.
>I have a feeling you would make a report to your OSA handlers. How did they
>manage that? Did they get a video?
Tory, some day you'll realize that not every one who disagrees with
you is OSA. For the time being, however, I guess you'll continue
expressing your own paranoia loud and clear at every opportunity.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Anonymous User
Like Ralph, the smoke billowing from your ass is all too visible.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:53 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
Deana M. Holmes
news:3c47a09e...@news.giganews.com:
> Perhaps when you realize that hiding behind a nym to respond to
> other's question makes you look like an even bigger asshole, Tory.
I don't think this is Tory, Diane.
Deana
mir...@sonic.net
Diane Richardson
<anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence, Diane?
Why do you find it necessary to post anonymously to defend yourself,
Tory?
I specifically asked Magoo the questions you've chosen to answer.
With no identification other than "Anonymous" you've chosen to
speak as Tory/Magoo. I know you resorted to using multiple
identities when you were posting for OSA; I hadn't realized you
continued the practice after you transferred your loyalty from
Hubbard to Minton.
>Like Ralph, the smoke billowing from your ass is all too visible.
There's absolutely no change from the crap you posted as an OSA
loyalist and the crap you post now, Tory.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Anonymous User
wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
>>Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence, Diane?
>
>Why do you find it necessary to post anonymously to defend yourself,
>Tory?
Why do you find it necessary to mislead the people here and say Tory was
"hiding behind a nym" in the past? Tory has never used a NYM.
>I specifically asked Magoo the questions you've chosen to answer.
Public forum, Icepick. It's the nature of the beast that threads develop in
this fashion. Maybe you are getting stupider with age and have forgotten
that?
>With no identification other than "Anonymous" you've chosen to
>speak as Tory/Magoo.
As you well know, Icepick, Tory has answered those questions many times in
this forum. The fact that you, Sonja Mattson and Shirley Wilson do not
accept them shows you are only interested in attacking. I was simply
pointing this fact out.
Furthermore, as I and others have stated over and over, Tory is under NO
obligation to reveal the contents of personal and private conversations to
ANYONE.
Maybe you should reread the above statement several dozen times so that it
will sink into your thick skull.
>I know you resorted to using multiple
>identities when you were posting for OSA; I hadn't realized you
>continued the practice after you transferred your loyalty from
>Hubbard to Minton.
Is your asshole burning with all this smoke pouring out, Icepick?
>>Like Ralph, the smoke billowing from your ass is all too visible.
>
>There's absolutely no change from the crap you posted as an OSA
>loyalist and the crap you post now, Tory.
That's bullshit, Icepick. There are enough posters here who saw Tory's
posts at that time to be able to differentiate then and now. The more you
try to spread your shit around, the more you smear on your own face.
>Diane Richardson
>ref...@bway.net
Here's a good example of Icepick's black PR from her previous post:
Diane "Icepick" Richardson asked, "What was the psychiatrist's name? How
often did he see Bashaw, and for how long?"
Think about this question folks. Keep in mind Icepick is familiar with
patient/physician protocol.
BTW, what about that video, Diane Richardson? Maybe this is something we
should be discussing on ARS instead of personal and private phone calls?
What do you think? Maybe people here will have a better understanding of
your motives.
Bob Sullivan
>
>There's absolutely no change from the crap you posted as an OSA
>loyalist and the crap you post now, Tory.
You fulla shit.
Anonymous User
wrote:
She knows damn well I am not. Tory has never used a nym. As a neophyte
computer user, Tory would not even know how it works.
Diane "Icepick" Richardson's is just trying to slime Tory in any way she
can.
Diane disgusts me. <spit>
>Deana
>mir...@sonic.net
Anonymous User
>Anonymous User <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>>How does Lex asking you what you said to Greg Bashaw during your
>>>short telephone conversation "diminish" the effect of Scientology on
>>>Greg Bashaw's life?
>
>> Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a slimy
>> attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
>> in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>
>Hi there Kady O'Malley, posting under acronym nowdays are ya?
Why are you yapping about something you have no clue
about, Sonja Mattson?
Your posts here are like an ill-mannered, ill-bred cur that
continually barks at its own echo.
A year ago I thought you were a waste of bandwidth.
I was wrong.
You are a waste of skin.
I'm going to do both of us a favor. I'm going to give you a higher
rating so you remain in my bozo bin.
[snip Sonja Mattson's mindless yapping]
Diane Richardson
<anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:57:02 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence, Diane?
>>
>>Why do you find it necessary to post anonymously to defend yourself,
>>Tory?
>
>Why do you find it necessary to mislead the people here and say Tory was
>"hiding behind a nym" in the past? Tory has never used a NYM.
Oh, please! Not only are you showing your limited knowledge of the
a.r.s. past, you're also showing your stupidity. Magoo was only one of
the pseudonyms Tory used as a Scientologist. She'd post under one,
then follow up her own post using another name.
>>I specifically asked Magoo the questions you've chosen to answer.
>
>Public forum, Icepick. It's the nature of the beast that threads develop in
>this fashion. Maybe you are getting stupider with age and have forgotten
>that?
No, Tory, I'll choose to call you Tory since you're too cowardly to do
anything more than hide behind anonymity. If you want to speak for
Tory, I'll call you Tory.
>>With no identification other than "Anonymous" you've chosen to
>>speak as Tory/Magoo.
>
>As you well know, Icepick, Tory has answered those questions many times in
>this forum.
She's done no such thing; rather, she's reverted to spewing out lines
of hysterical garbage rather than answer a question she doesn't want
to address.
>The fact that you, Sonja Mattson and Shirley Wilson do not
>accept them shows you are only interested in attacking. I was simply
>pointing this fact out.
You're pointing out your own cowardice.
>Furthermore, as I and others have stated over and over, Tory is under NO
>obligation to reveal the contents of personal and private conversations to
>ANYONE.
Of course she isn't. But she brought up the subject in this public
forum, so I (and others) are perfectly free to question her about her
statements. Freedom of speech for Tory means freedom of speech
for others, too, whether you like it or not.
>Maybe you should reread the above statement several dozen times so that it
>will sink into your thick skull.
I've read enough to see you're nothing more than an ill-informed,
cowardly idiot, incapable of defending your own statements.
>>I know you resorted to using multiple
>>identities when you were posting for OSA; I hadn't realized you
>>continued the practice after you transferred your loyalty from
>>Hubbard to Minton.
>
>Is your asshole burning with all this smoke pouring out, Icepick?
My, my! It looks like Little Miss Bunnyann's scatological talk has
permeated you to the core.
>>>Like Ralph, the smoke billowing from your ass is all too visible.
>>
>>There's absolutely no change from the crap you posted as an OSA
>>loyalist and the crap you post now, Tory.
>
>That's bullshit, Icepick. There are enough posters here who saw Tory's
>posts at that time to be able to differentiate then and now. The more you
>try to spread your shit around, the more you smear on your own face.
I was around and remember. It's more than obvious that you were not.
>
>>Diane Richardson
>>ref...@bway.net
>
>Here's a good example of Icepick's black PR from her previous post:
>
>Diane "Icepick" Richardson asked, "What was the psychiatrist's name? How
>often did he see Bashaw, and for how long?"
>
>Think about this question folks. Keep in mind Icepick is familiar with
>patient/physician protocol.
"Patient/physician protocol"? You may be as stupid as Tory Christman,
but at least the real Tory doesn't try to sound more erudite than she
actually is, you poor little anonymous coward.
I would suggest Bashaw spent more time talking to the LMT "counseler
in charge" Jesse Prince during the last days of his life than he spent
talking to any mental health professional. Is that what you're so
desperate to hide?
>BTW, what about that video, Diane Richardson?
There is no video, Anonymous Tory. I have no idea what you're
talking about.
>Maybe this is something we
>should be discussing on ARS instead of personal and private phone calls?
Discuss away, Anonymous Tory. I'm curious to see what fabrication you
choose to spew onto this newsgroup.
>What do you think? Maybe people here will have a better understanding of
>your motives.
Tell me what you're talking about and maybe we'll have a better
understanding of your own motives.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
ka...@wwwaif.net
>Anonymous User <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
>> this forum. The fact that you, Sonja Mattson and Shirley Wilson do not
>> accept them shows you are only interested in attacking. I was simply
>> pointing this fact out.
>
>and attacking people by their names. How low can you sunk?
Quit obsessing over me, freak. I'm not your little remailing friend, and if I
have something to say to the likes of you, I'll do it from this account, this
name. And yes, I know replying to you is akin to bungee-jumping into quicksand,
but your latest rampage of including my name in every post you make, regardless
of my involvement in the thread in question, is irritating in the extreme.
BTW, posting under the name "x", attacking me by my full name, and accusing me
of posting under an "acronym" while attacking me by my full name? Not without
its irony.
Finally, I think you might want to look up "acronym" in the dictionary. It does
not mean what you think it means.
This, on the other hand, is an acronym:
STFU.
HTH,
K
Michael
Michael
ptsc
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:05:06 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a slimy
>>attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
>>in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>It's interesting that you still post under more than one nym, Magoo.
>I thought you gave that up once you quit posting on behalf of OSA.
>I guess you're not one to give up old habits easily.
You stupid cunt. It's obvious to any moron that this remailer poster isn't
Tory. Of course, you have no eye for style whatsoever. You're the same nutcase
moron who swore up and down to everyone who would listen on irc for months that
I was Grady Ward. Of course your other guesses were equally stupid, when you
spent a week calling me "twils."
People laugh at your pathetic lunacy.
It's not at all surprising that you're the official records-keeper for the
inventer of the icepick lobotomy. Your latest posts indicate you've also
undergone the procedure yourself.
ROTFL at what a nut you are.
ptsc
Starshadow
©Anti-Cult® - www.users.wineasy.se/noname/ wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:40:13 GMT.
> In the Newsgroup(s): alt.religion.scientology
> With the Message-ID: <3c48121...@news.giganews.com>
> And the Organization Header: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing.
> The famous author: ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson).
> Wrote on the subject: Re: Diane Richardson blows smoke out her ass.:
>
>
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:14:04 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:57:02 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>>>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence, Diane?
>>>>>
>>>>Why do you find it necessary to post anonymously to defend yourself,
>>>>Tory?
>>>>
>>>Why do you find it necessary to mislead the people here and say Tory was
>>>"hiding behind a nym" in the past? Tory has never used a NYM.
>>>
>>Oh, please! Not only are you showing your limited knowledge of the
>>a.r.s. past, you're also showing your stupidity. Magoo was only one of
>>the pseudonyms Tory used as a Scientologist. She'd post under one,
>>then follow up her own post using another name.
>>
>
> Tory's never posted from an anon remailer. Not when she was in the cult,
> and not when she's out. She doesn't know how the hell to do it either.
>
> You're once again barking up the wrong tree, Diane.
>
> SAZ
>
>
She did use the Africa nym and the Magoo nym, but both
from the same source, which is why we knew they were the
same person. Not anon at all, though she tried to make it
look like it was.
This may be what Icepick is flapping her lips about.
(Oh, all right, her keyboard.)
--
Bright Blessings,
Starshadow KoX, SP5, Official Wiccan Chaplain ARSCC(wdne)
(to find out what this means go to www.xenu.net)
Ed
author of the Anonymous User post, even though their writing styles
are utterly different and A.U. says he/she said "I have no intention
of revealing myself to you, Diane. We have spoken face to face many
Ed
Starshadow
ptsc wrote:
Geeze, Icepick back with drugs in her system. What an idiot.
Next she'll be claiming "Starshadow" is a pseudonym for
Tory or maybe one of the Minton gang she hates.
Elizabeth Ann Cox
anonymously. You, however, like to sneak on an irc channel assuming another
person's nick. You are very much like your friend, "It's not a lie, I
made it up, Diane." One of you lies and the other swears to it. It is this
obsessive behavior that creates a desire in others to maintain arm's
distance from you both. You are both simply beneath contempt.
--
Elizabeth Ann Cox
aka, Bunnyann
FOLO ED ("Flukenet" Online Liaison Office)
ARS Chic with attitude!
Doubt is not a crime; simply a reasonable response to tyranny!
"x" <naa...@vhost.shocking.com> wrote in message
news:3c71...@news2.lightlink.com...
> ka...@wwwaif.net <ka...@wwwaif.net> wrote:
>
> > Quit obsessing over me, freak. I'm not your little remailing friend, and
if I
>
> ...freak? Fine, whatever rings your bell. You on the other hand are a
freak in
> your hypocracy. What i do know is that you know this anon poster in here.
Yet
> you allow him to continue, because it's what you want to see happening.
>
> And don't try to deny it.
>
> > have something to say to the likes of you, I'll do it from this account,
this
> > name. And yes, I know replying to you is akin to bungee-jumping into
quicksand,
> > but your latest rampage of including my name in every post you make,
regardless
> > of my involvement in the thread in question, is irritating in the
extreme.
>
> ...well since bunny likes to talk about this "we" which she represents, i
thought
> it was appropriate to mention who does she means by this "we". Especially
since
> she seems to speak for the flukenet as whole. And frankly so have you.
>
> > BTW, posting under the name "x", attacking me by my full name, and
accusing me
> > of posting under an "acronym" while attacking me by my full name? Not
without
> > its irony.
>
> ...posting replies to bunny's attacks where she spread lies and opinions
of infamous
> "we", is, perhaps low to use your name, but the only way to bring the "we"
to take
> responsible of their silent support for these bullies.
>
> > Finally, I think you might want to look up "acronym" in the dictionary.
It does
> > not mean what you think it means.
>
> I ment pseudonym. Too many nyms in english language.
>
> > STFU.
>
> ...i don't have to, you banned me.
>
> > HTH,
>
> ...i donnu this one.
>
>
> --
> spt
Elizabeth Ann Cox
mentioned in the below post. BTW, Diane, I would not accuse Tory of posting
garbage. After all, it is rather clear that the true garbage posters on
this NG are you, your dupe Lex, Chigger and Michael.
--
Elizabeth Ann Cox
aka, Bunnyann
FOLO ED ("Flukenet" Online Liaison Office)
ARS Chic with attitude!
Doubt is not a crime; simply a reasonable response to tyranny!
"Diane Richardson" <ref...@bway.net> wrote in message
news:3c48121...@news.giganews.com...
Elizabeth Ann Cox
returned.
--
Elizabeth Ann Cox
aka, Bunnyann
FOLO ED ("Flukenet" Online Liaison Office)
ARS Chic with attitude!
Doubt is not a crime; simply a reasonable response to tyranny!
"Starshadow" <stars...@starshadow.net> wrote in message
news:3C7128FE...@starshadow.net...
Elizabeth Ann Cox
just makes it up.
--
Elizabeth Ann Cox
aka, Bunnyann
FOLO ED ("Flukenet" Online Liaison Office)
ARS Chic with attitude!
Doubt is not a crime; simply a reasonable response to tyranny!
"Ed" <met...@aol.com> wrote in message news:3C7129DD...@aol.com...
Elizabeth Ann Cox
everyone else, yet reveal nothing of yourself. When something is discovered
about you and is posted, you scream like a banshee. Now go play with your
friend Erin and get some new pointers on how to handle a NG.
--
Elizabeth Ann Cox
aka, Bunnyann
FOLO ED ("Flukenet" Online Liaison Office)
ARS Chic with attitude!
Doubt is not a crime; simply a reasonable response to tyranny!
"x" <naa...@vhost.shocking.com> wrote in message
news:3c70...@news2.lightlink.com...
> Anonymous User <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
> >>How does Lex asking you what you said to Greg Bashaw during your
> >>short telephone conversation "diminish" the effect of Scientology on
> >>Greg Bashaw's life?
>
> > Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a
slimy
> > attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for
Greg
> > in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>
> Hi there Kady O'Malley, posting under acronym nowdays are ya? Your claims
> that i have no respect on that poor guy is absurd. I didn't brought up him
> at all, it was tory. I asked of tory's actions and that in general it's
> a bad karma to cure any psych patiente with OT's. These accusations that
> i'm somehow disrespectful of the poor guy came from the tory, who after
> being unable to answer my questions decided to attack on my person. With
> the usual flukenet howlers joining the chorus.
>
> > I agree. So, Diane, why are you trying to insinuate Tory had a part in
> > pushing him in that direction? For all you know, the phone conversation
> > could have postponed it for several days until things then again built
up
> > in him.
>
> ...so why is tory so sekrative about it? Why should her comforting words
to
> this poor guy, be a private and sekrit conversation. It could be a lesson
> of how to talk with a patiente in psych ward who you belive is suicidal
> because of scn.
>
>
> > But you are trying to tell us that Tory, in a 4 minute phone
conversation,
> > had some sort of control over his suicide. Even to the point of
insinuating
> > she was responsible for it.
>
> ...and where did i exactly claimed so? I never did.
>
> > It is obvious that scientology had a much, much greater affect on him.
> > Especially as he was not allowed back into his church and was forced to
> > disconnect from his former friends and aquaintances.
>
> ...if thats true, i should be suicidal for being forced to disconnect from
my former
> friends in flukenet.
>
> > I think that Tory's phone call was simply not sufficient to make up for
> > these losses. What about his own family and psychiatrist? They spent
weeks
> > and months with him on a daily basis. Why aren't you holding them
> > responsible?
>
> ..nobody has accused tory of anything. Nor his parents or medical staff.
It's very
> difficult to hold anyone responsible of it.
>
> ...the top three reasons given are relationship problems, financial
troubles, and job stress.
> Most people know these situations are temporary and things will get
better, it's when
> a person gets stuck and they can't see beyond the problem that suicide
becomes an option
>
> ...i was curious to know what tory said to this guy-
>
> > You are full of shit, Diane. One only has to read Sonja Mattson's inane
> > black PR posts for the last year.
>
> ...i don't black PR anyone. If you wanna see that you can simply go and
look the semi-official
> flukenet homepage on lerma's site, where they declare people as taleban
terrorists. Just
> because they've declared us to be ones, in their hategroup.
>
> > Knowing NOTHING, why are you trying to put some sort of blame on Tory
for
> > his suicide, Diane?
>
> ...nobody is doing so.
>
>
> > "desperate" ... "hysterical"
> > Cut the hyperbole, Diane. This post of yours is nothing but a replay of
the
> > one you did months ago. I think 20+ years in the cult carries one hell
of a
> > lot more weight than a 4 minute conversation on the phone.
>
> ...does it really? I've been thinking if i would have made that 4 min
call, what would i have said.
> What would you say?
>
> > I also think that people should look to scientology as the main
causitive
> > factor in Greg's suicide. It has all the hallmarks of other suicides of
> > scientogists ... disconnection, SP declare. These are the factors that
> > should be discussed here. NOT a 4 minute conversation.
>
> ...if you belive so then it's most interesting to know if tory also beived
like this? Since
> in that case she must have asked one particuler question. I wonder if she
belived and if she
> asked.
>
> How about the other OT, did s/he had also a 4 min chat? If i recall right
there was posts that
> idicated that s/he visited this man?
>
> > But you, Diane Richardson, have learned enough, reading this ng, to
> > determine that Tory was somehow responsible for his suicide by having
this
> > 4 minute phone conversation.
>
> ...no, you Kady O'Malley, have not learned anything, nobody is dtermined
that tory had anything
> to do with this tragic thing. Nobody claimed so, but flukes sure try to
pressure everyone to
> belive that it is so. Shame on you.
>
> > You were privy to that 4 minute conversation? Tory has a tremendous
> > compassion for people as reflected in her posts here. I am confident
that
> > her conversation with Greg was gentle, caring and entirely suitable.
Maybe
> > you think that Greg should have been put on the Introspection Rundown
and
> > have ALL communications, except from his auditor, cut off from him?
>
> We'll never know cause she refuses to tell what she said.
>
>
> > When are you going to realize that blowing smoke out your ass in an
attempt
> > to black PR Tory makes you look like one big asshole? You jumped on Tory
> > the moment she started posting as a critic here and tried to DA her. She
> > was too clean to do that so you reverted to your now standard method of
> > pulling balls of shit out of your own stinking ass and trying to smear
> > others with it. It doesn't work. You just end up with that shit on your
own
> > face.
>
> > Ten years ago I had respect for you, Diane. Not anymore. Now feelings
> > towards you are disgust and revulsion.
>
> > You are becoming more and more like Sonja Mattson in your postings here
and
> > that is nothing to be proud of.
>
> ...but it's ok for Kady O'Malley to post anon and accuse of people for
this and that.
>
> > I have no intention of revealing myself to you, Diane. We have spoken
face
> > to face many times in the past.
>
> ...then why are you a hiding scumbag now?
>
> > I have a feeling you would make a report to your OSA handlers. How did
they
> > manage that? Did they get a video?
>
> ...neither of us, diane or me are osa, nor do we have any osa handlers.
Get a life moron.
>
> --
> spt
Elizabeth Ann Cox
worth the effort. Everyone else has figured that out, except the two of
you.
--
Elizabeth Ann Cox
aka, Bunnyann
FOLO ED ("Flukenet" Online Liaison Office)
ARS Chic with attitude!
Doubt is not a crime; simply a reasonable response to tyranny!
"x" <naa...@vhost.shocking.com> wrote in message
news:3c70...@news2.lightlink.com...
> Anonymous User <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi there Kady O'Malley, posting under acronym nowdays are ya?
>
> > Why are you yapping about something you have no clue
> > about, Sonja Mattson?
>
> ...that would be just like Kady's style, to shot from the push. Why
> don't you admit that you are Kady O'Malley whos hatered towards diane
> and me is world famous? :)
>
> > Your posts here are like an ill-mannered, ill-bred cur that
> > continually barks at its own echo.
>
> ...and your posts are from an anonymous scumbag whos not only waste of
> skin but a waste of the human behaviour.
>
> > I'm going to do both of us a favor. I'm going to give you a higher
> > rating so you remain in my bozo bin.
>
> ...you do what you've always done, declaring people to be critics or not
> critics, based on your own likings or dislikings. Nothing new here, change
> the .mp3.
>
> --
> spt
ef
x <naa...@vhost.shocking.com> wrote:
> Anonymous User <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi there Kady O'Malley, posting under acronym nowdays are ya?
it's not kady. stop obsessing.
>
> > Why are you yapping about something you have no clue
> > about, Sonja Mattson?
>
> ...that would be just like Kady's style, to shot from the push. Why
> don't you admit that you are Kady O'Malley whos hatered towards diane
> and me is world famous? :)
i repeat, it's not kady.
secondly, nowhere have i found any examples of kady harbouring hatreds
towards you or diane. i have no idea what brought on your recent kady
obsession although i suspect that somewhere in the overwrought recesses
of whatever passes for your brain these days, there ferments that vast
denial that it cannot possibly be your own behavior that earned you
peoples dislike.
well lex, live with it. it's your own fault, no one elses. and certainly
not kady --who btw, defended you well past anyone else's point of no
return.
don't you ever learn *anything*??
stop imagining conspiracies where there are none. if you had not behaved
like a spurned five year old, you might still have a few friends left.
like kady... who was your friend but sure the hell ain't anymore. and
it's your own fault, no one elses.
-ef
Diane Richardson
www.users.wineasy.se/noname/ <Anti...@galacticfederation.homeip.net>
wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:40:13 GMT.
>In the Newsgroup(s): alt.religion.scientology
>With the Message-ID: <3c48121...@news.giganews.com>
>And the Organization Header: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing.
>The famous author: ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson).
>Wrote on the subject: Re: Diane Richardson blows smoke out her ass.:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:14:04 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:57:02 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>>>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence, Diane?
>>>>
>>>>Why do you find it necessary to post anonymously to defend yourself,
>>>>Tory?
>>>
>>>Why do you find it necessary to mislead the people here and say Tory was
>>>"hiding behind a nym" in the past? Tory has never used a NYM.
>>
>>Oh, please! Not only are you showing your limited knowledge of the
>>a.r.s. past, you're also showing your stupidity. Magoo was only one of
>>the pseudonyms Tory used as a Scientologist. She'd post under one,
>>then follow up her own post using another name.
>
>Tory's never posted from an anon remailer.
She *does* have a long history of posting under numerous nicks at the
same time. In fact, I remember when she was spamming and resorted to
responding to her own posts under a different nick when everyone else
just ignored her.
>Not when she was in the cult,
>and not when she's out. She doesn't know how the hell to do it either.
I'm sure she'll be delighted to see your low opinion of her
intellectual capabilities, Sten. Your opinion may very well be right.
>You're once again barking up the wrong tree, Diane.
I'm not barking up any tree, Sten. When Anonymous decided to
answer questions I put specifically to Magoo, the only conclusion I
could reach was that Anonymous was speaking for Magoo.
Magoo has done this in the past. She was trilling away about Brian
Haney's talk against Scientology at a Flordia church, but as soon as
I asked her how he was doing this while Minton was claiming Haney
had signed a gag order with the CoS, Magoo slithered away that time,
too. That didn't keep her from sending out others to speak for her,
though.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:53 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:05:06 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
>>>Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a slimy
>>>attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
>>>in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>
>>It's interesting that you still post under more than one nym, Magoo.
>>I thought you gave that up once you quit posting on behalf of OSA.
>>I guess you're not one to give up old habits easily.
>
>You stupid cunt.
I would call you a prick in return, Rob, but your micropenis doesn't
quite qualify for that term.
>It's obvious to any moron that this remailer poster isn't
>Tory.
I know that, Rob.
>Of course, you have no eye for style whatsoever.
If you're referring to Magoo's inability to spell, write
grammatically, or keep her finger off the exlamation point
and caps lock keys, I see your point.
>You're the same nutcase
>moron who swore up and down to everyone who would listen on irc for months that
>I was Grady Ward.
Now, now, Rob, you can foam at the mouth all you like, but that
doesn't give you the right to claim your hyperbolic remarks are the
truth. Settle down, little boy.
>Of course your other guesses were equally stupid, when you
>spent a week calling me "twils."
It's easy to confuse an totally incompetent lawyer with an uneducated
fool who likes to play lawyer on the internet, Rob.
>People laugh at your pathetic lunacy.
The same people voice their disgust over your neverending adolescence,
Rob. You've played that Peter Pan schtick on this newsgroup long
enough.
>It's not at all surprising that you're the official records-keeper for the
>inventer of the icepick lobotomy.
I'm not sure why you've decided to concoct this lie, Rob. I think the
people at Georgetown Univesity would be surprised to find this out.
But thanks once again for showing the world how impossible it is for
you to restrict yourself to the truth. Even when there's no need for
you to lie, you just can't control yourself. You just *have* to lie.
>Your latest posts indicate you've also
>undergone the procedure yourself.
Your latest posts indicate you're still reworking exactly the same
material you used when you first stumbled onto this newsgroup,
Rob. It was entertaining for the first year or so, but material gets
stale if you keep insisting on using the same old routines year after
year. You also look pretty silly still playing the part of a
angst-filled teenage when in reality you're well on your way to middle
age.
>ROTFL at what a nut you are.
But nowhere near as pathetic as you are, Rob.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
<stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
>
>
>ptsc wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:53 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:05:06 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a slimy
>>>>attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
>>>>in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>>>>
>>
>>>It's interesting that you still post under more than one nym, Magoo.
>>>I thought you gave that up once you quit posting on behalf of OSA.
>>>I guess you're not one to give up old habits easily.
>>>
>>
>> You stupid cunt. It's obvious to any moron that this remailer poster isn't
>> Tory. Of course, you have no eye for style whatsoever. You're the same nutcase
>> moron who swore up and down to everyone who would listen on irc for months that
>> I was Grady Ward. Of course your other guesses were equally stupid, when you
>> spent a week calling me "twils."
>>
>> People laugh at your pathetic lunacy.
>>
>> It's not at all surprising that you're the official records-keeper for the
>> inventer of the icepick lobotomy. Your latest posts indicate you've also
>> undergone the procedure yourself.
>>
>> ROTFL at what a nut you are.
>>
>> ptsc
>>
>
>Geeze, Icepick back with drugs in her system. What an idiot.
Drugs? What drugs do you think I have in my system, Starshadow?
>Next she'll be claiming "Starshadow" is a pseudonym for
>Tory or maybe one of the Minton gang she hates.
No, you've made it quite clear Starshadow is your chosen name.
What you're not so up front about is what your surname is. False
courage and braggadocio only go so far, Starshadow, and you
hit that limit a long, long time ago.
So what's your full name? Mine is the one I use to sign my posts
with, viz:
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
>You really have been away too long.
Not nearly long enough, "Tina."
>Here you address Tory as being the
>author of the Anonymous User post, even though their writing styles
>are utterly different
Anonymous chose to answer questions I posed to Tory specifically.
If Anonymous wants to speak for Tory, I might as well call him Tory.
>and A.U. says he/she said "I have no intention
>of revealing myself to you, Diane. We have spoken face to face many
>times in the past." in the original post.
And Anonymous is lying, of course. He made that quite clear in what
he wrote, although I'm sure he's too dense to realize how he idenfied
himself as a liar.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
<eliza...@chesapeake.net> wrote:
>Ed, Diane engages in selective reading and editing. And she never lies, she
>just makes it up.
You, on the other hand, lie through your teeth on a regular basis.
Fortunately, people around here know you well enough to expect
nothing but lies and hatred from you, Ms. Bunnyann, so they just
ignore you.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Elizabeth Ann Cox
vengeance? Self preservation will prevail. Well, such actions are pretty
pathetic on your part, Diane.
--
Elizabeth Ann Cox
aka, Bunnyann
FOLO ED ("Flukenet" Online Liaison Office)
ARS Chic with attitude!
Doubt is not a crime; simply a reasonable response to tyranny!
"Diane Richardson" <ref...@bway.net> wrote in message
news:3c486e5c...@news.giganews.com...
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:01:14 -0500, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT
> cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>
>
> I would call you a prick in return, Rob, but your micropenis doesn't
> quite qualify for that term.
>
ptsc
[nut rant deleted]
Huff and puff all you like, nut. Everyone still knows it is an act of total
idiocy to accuse Tory of being that remailer poster. Only a total moron would
have done it. You've sure deteriorated.
Moan some more. You'll still be just as wrong when you're done.
ptsc
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
Speak for yourself, Icepick.
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
My full and legal name is Starshadow, Icepick. No surname.
I've said that before, but apparently you're growing
illiterate in your old age, as well as your memory not
being what it used to be.
> Diane Richardson
> ref...@bway.net
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:01:14 -0500, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT
> cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:53 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:05:06 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a slimy
>>>>attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
>>>>in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>>>>
>>>It's interesting that you still post under more than one nym, Magoo.
>>>I thought you gave that up once you quit posting on behalf of OSA.
>>>I guess you're not one to give up old habits easily.
>>>
>>You stupid cunt.
>>
>
> I would call you a prick in return, Rob, but your micropenis doesn't
> quite qualify for that term.
>
This from the hypocritical cunt who got all up in arms
about Minton's "bad language".
What a fucking hypocrite, Icepick is.
Elizabeth Ann Cox
contribute a portion of your income. This money goes for all the DA and
Black PR against you. Our goal is to DA you to the entire Internet.
Do they really come any dumber than you?
--
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> ...a psychopath, how much does flukenet pays you for trashing critics?
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couple of months:
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"Diane Richardson" <ref...@bway.net> schreef in bericht
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:05:06 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
> <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:21:59 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 22:34:27 GMT, "Magoo" <mag...@worldnet.att.net>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>There's no questions that are uncomfortable.
> >>>What IS uncomcomfortable is you deminishing what was the effect on a
man's
> >>>life by a so called "religion" named Sceintology..by pounding away at
asking
> >>>what I said to him in four minutes on a phone call..days maybe weeks
prior
> >>>to he taking his life.
> >>
> >>How does Lex asking you what you said to Greg Bashaw during your
> >>short telephone conversation "diminish" the effect of Scientology on
> >>Greg Bashaw's life?
> >
> >Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a
slimy
> >attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
> >in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>
> It's interesting that you still post under more than one nym, Magoo.
> I thought you gave that up once you quit posting on behalf of OSA.
> I guess you're not one to give up old habits easily.
>
> >>I know you won't respond, since you cannot possibly have a logical
> >>explanation for this desperately irrational attempt to absolve
> >>yourself of any responsibility for your own words and actions.
> >
> >It is no one's business what Tory says and does in private, as you well
> >know, Diane.
>
> If you choose to post about it to this newsgroup, then it is no longer
> private, Magoo. I thought you were smart enough to realize that.
> I guess you've proven me wrong.
>
> >>But then, that's what you learned to do as a Scientologist for those
> >>thirty-whatever years when you worshipped the words of Hubbard.
> >>
> >>>If you are a critic...what is it you think actually drove this man to
take
> >>>his life?
> >>
> >>People aren't "driven" to commit suicide.
> >
> >I agree. So, Diane, why are you trying to insinuate Tory had a part in
> >pushing him in that direction?
>
> I've never insinuated any such thing, Magoo. It's a pity you can't
> come out and say that without hiding behind anonymity.
>
> >For all you know, the phone conversation
> >could have postponed it for several days until things then again built up
> >in him.
>
> I guess you would have a better idea about that if you had followed
> up on the four minute conversation you had with him, Tory. It's a
> pity you didn't. I guess your LMT handlers didn't include that in
> their orders to you.
>
> >>>How does Scientology fit into the picture?
> >>
> >>He, along with his wife, were members of that high-control group.
> >
> >But you are trying to tell us that Tory, in a 4 minute phone
conversation,
> >had some sort of control over his suicide.
>
> I've never insinuated any such thing, Tory. This must be why you've
> chosen to respond to my question through an anonymizer.
>
> >Even to the point of insinuating
> >she was responsible for it.
>
> I've never insinuated any such thing, Tory. Might that be your own
> conscience whispering such insinuations to you?
>
> >It is obvious that scientology had a much, much greater affect on him.
> >Especially as he was not allowed back into his church and was forced to
> >disconnect from his former friends and aquaintances.
>
> There are plenty of Scientologists who are declared, and even more who
> are forced to disconnect from friends and acquaintances. Strange that
> we don't see an epidemic of suicides, if what you say is actually
> true.
>
> Come to think of it, you yourself have been declared, Magoo. Yet you
> haven't expressed any desire to commit suicide, even though you
> struggled through the same OTVII course for years. If you are correct
> in placing responsibility for Bashaw's suicide on the CoS and the
> OTVII course, why is it that you haven't committed suicide too?
>
> >I think that Tory's phone call was simply not sufficient to make up for
> >these losses.
>
> I doubt a cheery, upbeat 4-minute chat from you could make any
> difference at all to the guy's mental condition, Tory. The strangest
> thing about this is that the LMT (and you) appeared to believe it had.
>
> >What about his own family and psychiatrist? They spent weeks
> >and months with him on a daily basis.
>
> They did? What was the psychiatrist's name? How often did he
> see Bashaw, and for how long?
>
> As to his family, I was under the impression that Bashaw's wife was
> a dyed-in-the-wool Scientologist. Did you call Bashaw to try to
> refute what his own wife was telling him, Tory?
>
> >Why aren't you holding them
> >responsible?
>
> I think there's enough responsibility for all concerned in this sorry
> affair. I'm just concerned about your complete inability to accept
> the fact that you share in this responsibility, Magoo.
>
> >>>Quit using their own Fair game
> >>>tactics to take the attention off of Scientology and onto me.
> >>
> >>What makes you believe Lex is engaging in CoS fair game tactics?
> >
> >You are full of shit, Diane. One only has to read Sonja Mattson's inane
> >black PR posts for the last year.
>
> Now, now, Tory. No need to get upset.
>
> >>It certainly doesn't appear that way to me. Perhaps your extended
> >>membership in an organization as paranoid as the CoS has led you
> >>to hold what appears to be a somewhat irrational view of other's
> >>motives.
> >>
> >>>Do you feel
> >>>Scientology had anything to do with this man taking his life, and if
> >>>so...what?
> >>
> >>It probably did, along with a whole host of other personal matters of
> >>which neither you nor I know anything.
> >
> >Knowing NOTHING, why are you trying to put some sort of blame on Tory for
> >his suicide, Diane?
>
> I'm not trying to blame you for Bashaw's suicide, Tory. I do,
> however, find it exceedingly odd that you're incapable of discussing
> this sincerely and openly. Hiding behind anonymity is something
> you've bashed others for doing here time after time, but now you're
> doing it yourself.
>
> >>Don't you realize you're doing exactly what you accuse others of
> >>doing? You are so desperate to evade any responsibility for the
> >>tragedy that ended Greg Bashaw's life, you've become almost hysterical
> >>in efforts to place the entire blame onto only one cause -
> >>Scientology.
> >
> >"desperate" ... "hysterical"
> >Cut the hyperbole, Diane. This post of yours is nothing but a replay of
the
> >one you did months ago. I think 20+ years in the cult carries one hell of
a
> >lot more weight than a 4 minute conversation on the phone.
>
> It's a pity you can't face reality, Magoo.
>
> >I also think that people should look to scientology as the main causitive
> >factor in Greg's suicide. It has all the hallmarks of other suicides of
> >scientogists ... disconnection, SP declare. These are the factors that
> >should be discussed here. NOT a 4 minute conversation.
>
> Magoo, you haven't committed suicide even though you've been in
> exactly the same place as Greg Bashaw. You've been disconnected,
> received an SP declare. What was the difference ... why would one
> Scientologist be "driven" (to use your word) to suicide because of
> exactly the same things while they didn't affect you that way?
>
> Is it because you're a better or stronger person?
>
> >>You didn't learn enough about Greg Bashaw life in one four minute
> >>telephone conversation to have any concept of what his mental state
> >>was at the time, or how he might go about easing the situation.
> >
> >But you, Diane Richardson, have learned enough, reading this ng, to
> >determine that Tory was somehow responsible for his suicide by having
this
> >4 minute phone conversation.
>
> I've never made any such determination, Magoo. I see you're still so
> desperate to wriggle your way out of this you're willing to say
> anything to divert attention away from your own actions.
>
> >>Come off it, Tory. Your LMT handlers asked you to intevene in
> >>something you had neither the knowledge nor the understanding
> >>to deal with. Your interference, along with that of other LMT idiots,
> >>might very well have made Greg Bashaw's bad situation even worse.
> >
> >"might very well have"???? You are blowing smoke out your ass again,
Diane.
>
> Now, now, Tory. No need to get vulgar, no matter how close to home
> this might be.
>
> >>If your handlers ever try to manipulate you into handling something
> >>like this in the future, here's a word of advice:
> >
> >"manipulate" ... "handlers"
> >More hyerbole, Diane. More smoke out of your ass.
>
> The champion smoke blower on this newsgroup is -- and has been --
> you, Tory. Have another cream soda and just forget about it.
>
> >>Telling a suicidal person to cheer up, go get a cream soda and dance
> >>in the moonlight is exactly the sort of thing you should NOT say.
> >
> >You were privy to that 4 minute conversation?
>
> Of course I wasn't, Tory, but since you've decided not to disclose
> what you said, all I can go on is what you've said on this newsgroup.
> The topics you've brought up more often than any other during your
> years of posting here is your delight in dancing and your craving for
> cream soda.
>
> >Tory has a tremendous
> >compassion for people as reflected in her posts here. I am confident that
> >her conversation with Greg was gentle, caring and entirely suitable.
Maybe
> >you think that Greg should have been put on the Introspection Rundown and
> >have ALL communications, except from his auditor, cut off from him?
>
> Nice little piece of self-congratulatory drivvel, Tory.
>
> >>So ... go have a cream soda, kid, and learn to recognize your own
> >>shortcomings.
> >
> >When are you going to realize that blowing smoke out your ass in an
attempt
> >to black PR Tory makes you look like one big asshole?
>
> Perhaps when you realize that hiding behind a nym to respond to
> other's question makes you look like an even bigger asshole, Tory.
>
> >You jumped on Tory
> >the moment she started posting as a critic here and tried to DA her.
>
> Now that, my dear, is an outright lie. But hey, what else should we
> expect from you.
>
> >She
> >was too clean to do that so you reverted to your now standard method of
> >pulling balls of shit out of your own stinking ass and trying to smear
> >others with it. It doesn't work. You just end up with that shit on your
own
> >face.
>
> Hmmmm ... looks like "pulling balls of shit out of your ass" is the
> current top-selling phrase on the #lies channel these days. Our very
> own Little Miss Bunnyann has been vomiting that one up a lot lately.
>
> >Ten years ago I had respect for you, Diane. Not anymore. Now feelings
> >towards you are disgust and revulsion.
>
> You didn't know me ten years ago, Tory. Thankfully, you still don't
> know me. Even better, it's guaranteed you'll never know me.
>
> >You are becoming more and more like Sonja Mattson in your postings here
and
> >that is nothing to be proud of.
>
> You are becoming more and more like the Scientologist you once were,
> Tory. Looks like OSA taught you well.
>
> >I have no intention of revealing myself to you, Diane. We have spoken
face
> >to face many times in the past.
>
> I've never spoken to you at all, Magoo, you silly fish.
>
> >I have a feeling you would make a report to your OSA handlers. How did
they
> >manage that? Did they get a video?
>
Nessie
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> Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence, Diane?
> Like Ralph, the smoke billowing from your ass is all too visible.
>
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:53 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
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"Diane Richardson" <ref...@bway.net> schreef in bericht
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
> <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
> >Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence, Diane?
>
> Why do you find it necessary to post anonymously to defend yourself,
> Tory?
>
> I specifically asked Magoo the questions you've chosen to answer.
> With no identification other than "Anonymous" you've chosen to
> speak as Tory/Magoo. I know you resorted to using multiple
> identities when you were posting for OSA; I hadn't realized you
> continued the practice after you transferred your loyalty from
> Hubbard to Minton.
>
> >Like Ralph, the smoke billowing from your ass is all too visible.
>
> There's absolutely no change from the crap you posted as an OSA
> loyalist and the crap you post now, Tory.
>
>
> Diane Richardson
> ref...@bway.net
Nessie
http://nessie.psychassualt.org/
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"Diane Richardson" <ref...@bway.net> schreef in bericht
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:14:04 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
> <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:57:02 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
> >><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence,
Diane?
> >>
> >>Why do you find it necessary to post anonymously to defend yourself,
> >>Tory?
> >
> >Why do you find it necessary to mislead the people here and say Tory was
> >"hiding behind a nym" in the past? Tory has never used a NYM.
>
> Oh, please! Not only are you showing your limited knowledge of the
> a.r.s. past, you're also showing your stupidity. Magoo was only one of
> the pseudonyms Tory used as a Scientologist. She'd post under one,
> then follow up her own post using another name.
>
> >>I specifically asked Magoo the questions you've chosen to answer.
> >
> >Public forum, Icepick. It's the nature of the beast that threads develop
in
> >this fashion. Maybe you are getting stupider with age and have forgotten
> >that?
>
> No, Tory, I'll choose to call you Tory since you're too cowardly to do
> anything more than hide behind anonymity. If you want to speak for
> Tory, I'll call you Tory.
>
> >>With no identification other than "Anonymous" you've chosen to
> >>speak as Tory/Magoo.
> >
> >As you well know, Icepick, Tory has answered those questions many times
in
> >this forum.
>
> She's done no such thing; rather, she's reverted to spewing out lines
> of hysterical garbage rather than answer a question she doesn't want
> to address.
>
> >The fact that you, Sonja Mattson and Shirley Wilson do not
> >accept them shows you are only interested in attacking. I was simply
> >pointing this fact out.
>
> You're pointing out your own cowardice.
>
> >Furthermore, as I and others have stated over and over, Tory is under NO
> >obligation to reveal the contents of personal and private conversations
to
> >ANYONE.
>
> Of course she isn't. But she brought up the subject in this public
> forum, so I (and others) are perfectly free to question her about her
> statements. Freedom of speech for Tory means freedom of speech
> for others, too, whether you like it or not.
>
> >Maybe you should reread the above statement several dozen times so that
it
> >will sink into your thick skull.
>
> I've read enough to see you're nothing more than an ill-informed,
> cowardly idiot, incapable of defending your own statements.
>
> >>I know you resorted to using multiple
> >>identities when you were posting for OSA; I hadn't realized you
> >>continued the practice after you transferred your loyalty from
> >>Hubbard to Minton.
> >
> >Is your asshole burning with all this smoke pouring out, Icepick?
>
> My, my! It looks like Little Miss Bunnyann's scatological talk has
> permeated you to the core.
>
> >>>Like Ralph, the smoke billowing from your ass is all too visible.
> >>
> >>There's absolutely no change from the crap you posted as an OSA
> >>loyalist and the crap you post now, Tory.
> >
> >That's bullshit, Icepick. There are enough posters here who saw Tory's
> >posts at that time to be able to differentiate then and now. The more you
> >try to spread your shit around, the more you smear on your own face.
>
> I was around and remember. It's more than obvious that you were not.
> >
> >>Diane Richardson
> >>ref...@bway.net
> >
> >Here's a good example of Icepick's black PR from her previous post:
> >
> >Diane "Icepick" Richardson asked, "What was the psychiatrist's name? How
> >often did he see Bashaw, and for how long?"
> >
Nessie
"ptsc" <ptsc AT nym DOT cryptofortress DOT com> schreef in bericht
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:53 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:05:06 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
> ><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
> >>Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a
slimy
> >>attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for
Greg
> >>in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>
> >It's interesting that you still post under more than one nym, Magoo.
> >I thought you gave that up once you quit posting on behalf of OSA.
> >I guess you're not one to give up old habits easily.
>
isn't
> Tory. Of course, you have no eye for style whatsoever. You're the same
nutcase
> moron who swore up and down to everyone who would listen on irc for months
that
> I was Grady Ward. Of course your other guesses were equally stupid, when
you
> spent a week calling me "twils."
>
> People laugh at your pathetic lunacy.
>
> It's not at all surprising that you're the official records-keeper for the
> inventer of the icepick lobotomy. Your latest posts indicate you've also
> undergone the procedure yourself.
>
> ROTFL at what a nut you are.
The funny farm has 'declared' her every time she pops up in ars.
Posting here is her way of fulfilling the conditions to get back to the
psychs.;-)
I heard, 'they' study her at work too.
Nessie
"Elizabeth Ann Cox" <eliza...@chesapeake.net> schreef in bericht
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> Ed, Diane engages in selective reading and editing. And she never lies,
she
> just makes it up.
Yeah, here it is:
--
I made it up, but it's no lie --
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Nessie:-)
Diane Richardson
Yeah, sure, and my full and legal name is Referen.
>I've said that before, but apparently you're growing
>illiterate in your old age, as well as your memory not
>being what it used to be.
You've failed to answer my question, Starshadow, so I'll ask again:
What drugs do you think I have in my system, Starshadow?
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:03:44 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>
>[nut rant deleted]
Let me repost that "nut rant" you chose to delete, Rob.
It all began with your opening remark:
>You stupid cunt.
I know that, Rob.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
>
Diane Richardson
<stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
>
>
>Diane Richardson wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:01:14 -0500, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT
>> cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:53 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:05:06 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
>>>><anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Because Sonja Mattson is simply using this tidbit of information in a slimy
>>>>>attempt to black PR Tory. It is obvious she has no consideration for Greg
>>>>>in the least. A quick check of her posts will reveal that.
>>>>>
>>>>It's interesting that you still post under more than one nym, Magoo.
>>>>I thought you gave that up once you quit posting on behalf of OSA.
>>>>I guess you're not one to give up old habits easily.
>>>>
>>>You stupid cunt.
>>>
>>
>> I would call you a prick in return, Rob, but your micropenis doesn't
>> quite qualify for that term.
>>
>This from the hypocritical cunt who got all up in arms
>about Minton's "bad language".
Do you find something objectionable to the word "micropenis,"
Starshadow. I understand you're a lesbian, but frankly I find
Rob Clark's reference to female genitalia far more revolting
than my reference to the minute size of his penis.
>What a fucking hypocrite, Icepick is.
No, dear, the hypocrite is the lesbian perfectly at home with
seeing a woman described as a cunt, but insulted by a reference
to Rob Clark's micropenis.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
<stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
>
>
>Diane Richardson wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:42:44 -0500, "Elizabeth Ann Cox"
>> <eliza...@chesapeake.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ed, Diane engages in selective reading and editing. And she never lies, she
>>>just makes it up.
>>>
>>
>> You, on the other hand, lie through your teeth on a regular basis.
>> Fortunately, people around here know you well enough to expect
>> nothing but lies and hatred from you, Ms. Bunnyann, so they just
>> ignore you.
>>
>>
>> Diane Richardson
>> ref...@bway.net
>>
>>
>Speak for yourself, Icepick.
I do that, Starshadow, and sign my full name to my words. That's
far more than you are willing to do, after all.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
JimDBB
>From: ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>I would call you a prick in return, Rob, but your micropenis doesn't
>>> quite qualify for that term.
>Do you find something objectionable to the word "micropenis,"
>Starshadow. I understand you're a lesbian, but frankly I find
>Rob Clark's reference to female genitalia far more revolting
>than my reference to the minute size of his penis.
>No, dear, the hypocrite is the lesbian perfectly at home with
>seeing a woman described as a cunt, but insulted by a reference
>to Rob Clark's micropenis.
Whew! the Princess of Darkness, Diane Richardson, is back and full of fresh
vitriol.
Keep the malicious invective coming and we'll put together another Diane
Richardson Exhibition.
I'd like to say 'welcome back' but I can't force myself to do it.
JImdbb
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:28:01 GMT, Starshadow
> <stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Diane Richardson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:42:44 -0500, "Elizabeth Ann Cox"
>>><eliza...@chesapeake.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ed, Diane engages in selective reading and editing. And she never lies, she
>>>>just makes it up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You, on the other hand, lie through your teeth on a regular basis.
>>>Fortunately, people around here know you well enough to expect
>>>nothing but lies and hatred from you, Ms. Bunnyann, so they just
>>>ignore you.
>>>
>>>
>>>Diane Richardson
>>>ref...@bway.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Speak for yourself, Icepick.
>>
>
> I do that, Starshadow, and sign my full name to my words. That's
> far more than you are willing to do, after all.
>
>
Aren't you getting tired of being wrong yet, Icepick?
Starshadow is my full and real name, as you've been told
before.
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
Just because I'm pointing out your hypocrisy in decrying
language that you've found objectionable while using it
yourself does not mean that I'm insulted, Icepick.
But then you're the stupid cunt who says she doesn't lie,
she just makes things up.
And what any of that has to do with my being a lesbian is
anyone's guess. I presume you think you are insulting me,
as well. Must suck to be you, you're wrong so often.
Or have you turned into a massive masochist to go along
with your massive stupidity and massive cluelessness?
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
Is that what your legal I.D. says, Icepick? Thought not.
>
>
>>I've said that before, but apparently you're growing
>>illiterate in your old age, as well as your memory not
>>being what it used to be.
>>
>
> You've failed to answer my question, Starshadow, so I'll ask again:
> What drugs do you think I have in my system, Starshadow?
>
Cheap crack, would be my guess. Unless you're growing senile.
Diane Richardson
<stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
[snip]
>>>>No, you've made it quite clear Starshadow is your chosen name.
>>>>What you're not so up front about is what your surname is. False
>>>>courage and braggadocio only go so far, Starshadow, and you
>>>>hit that limit a long, long time ago.
>>>>
>>>>So what's your full name? Mine is the one I use to sign my posts
>>>>with, viz:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>My full and legal name is Starshadow, Icepick. No surname.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, sure, and my full and legal name is Referen.
>
>
>Is that what your legal I.D. says, Icepick? Thought not.
Just as I don't believe your "legal I.D." reads Starshadow. You're
the hypocrite who screeches and blathers about others not revealing
their real identities while you refuse to reveal your own.
>>
>>>I've said that before, but apparently you're growing
>>>illiterate in your old age, as well as your memory not
>>>being what it used to be.
>>>
>>
>> You've failed to answer my question, Starshadow, so I'll ask again:
>> What drugs do you think I have in my system, Starshadow?
>
>Cheap crack, would be my guess. Unless you're growing senile.
In other words, you claimed I take drugs without having any factual
basis for making such a statement. You're pathetic.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
Jim, if you stop making harrassing telephone calls to people you've
targeted as enemies, you might have enough money to make a
little payment on those credit card debts.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
<stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
I've never objected to anyone using the words "prick"
or "micropenis," Starshadow. Once again, you're working
yourself into a lather by twisting others' words, dear.
>But then you're the stupid cunt who says she doesn't lie,
>she just makes things up.
I never said that, Starshadow. Looks like you're intent on
finding some lie to stick on me. Want to go back to your
claim I said Rob Clark had lived with me? We've been
over that one at last twice and both times it ended when
you turned tail and ran when you couldn't back up your
lies with facts.
>And what any of that has to do with my being a lesbian is
>anyone's guess. I presume you think you are insulting me,
>as well. Must suck to be you, you're wrong so often.
I find it odd you choose to screech and moan about my
reference to Rob Clark's micropenis, Starshadow. Why
would you find that so objectionable when you're quite
willing to mention female genitalia at the drop of a hat?
>Or have you turned into a massive masochist to go along
>with your massive stupidity and massive cluelessness?
The clueless person here is you, Starshadow. You scream
at others about hypocrisy while showing your own willingness
to twist facts in desperate attemps to belittle others. All you
end up doing is smearing yourself.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
<stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
[snip]
>> I do that, Starshadow, and sign my full name to my words. That's
>> far more than you are willing to do, after all.
>>
>>
>
>
>Aren't you getting tired of being wrong yet, Icepick?
>Starshadow is my full and real name, as you've been told
>before.
Why would I (or anyone else, for that matter) be willing to
accept the word of a proven liar like you, Starshadow?
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
ptsc
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:24:39 -0500, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT
>cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:03:44 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>
>>[nut rant deleted]
>Let me repost that "nut rant" you chose to delete, Rob.
Let me snip it again, nut.
The fact is, you identified an anonymous poster as Tory based on no evidence
whatsoever, and despite the fact that it clearly isn't Tory. That makes you a
moron. You can hiss and spit all you like, you were still wrong, and it still
makes you look stupid. I know you won't be able to resist looking stupid again
by continuing to defend such blithering idiocy.
This is why you are considered notoriously obtuse, as well as exceedingly
vicious. The fact that you would identify that anonymous poster as Tory is a
clear sign of idiocy. It obviously wasn't. Continue to make yourself look like
a fool, though. That's all you're good for anyway.
ptsc
Diane Richardson
cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 04:23:58 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:24:39 -0500, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT
>>cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>
>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:03:44 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson) wrote:
>>
>>>[nut rant deleted]
>
>>Let me repost that "nut rant" you chose to delete, Rob.
>
>Let me snip it again, nut.
Here it is again, Rob Clark:
You wrote:
>You stupid cunt.
And I replied:
I would call you a prick in return, Rob, but your micropenis doesn't
quite qualify for that term.
It's fascinating to see how uncomfortable you are with this. Could it
be you're someone who dishes it out but can't take it?
>The fact is, you identified an anonymous poster as Tory based on no evidence
>whatsoever, and despite the fact that it clearly isn't Tory.
I was razzing an Anonymous poster who chose to speak for Tory, Rob.
I figured if the coward who refused to identify himself wanted to
speak for Tory, I'd respond to him as if he was Tory.
Sorry if that's too complex for you to wrap your little brain around.
>That makes you a
>moron.
No, Rob, it makes *you* a moron.
>You can hiss and spit all you like, you were still wrong, and it still
>makes you look stupid. I know you won't be able to resist looking stupid again
>by continuing to defend such blithering idiocy.
I notice you're having some difficulty with your previous words, Rob.
What is it about our exchange that makes you uncomfortable enough
to keep deleting it?
>This is why you are considered notoriously obtuse, as well as exceedingly
>vicious. The fact that you would identify that anonymous poster as Tory is a
>clear sign of idiocy. It obviously wasn't.
Of course it wasn't. It's a pity you're so intent on diverting
attention away from your own words that you find it necessary
to harp on something as silly as my pathetic attempt at humor.
What I find fascinating is your unwillingness to acknowledge what you
wrote. Or is it my reply to what you wrote that you just don't want
to see?
>Continue to make yourself look like
>a fool, though. That's all you're good for anyway.
You're the fool, Rob.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Kaeli
Tory had always posted from AOL in her OSA volunteer days, not an anonymous
remailer, even with her multiple logins.
Kaeli A.
Diane Richardson wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous User
> <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> wrote:
>
> >Why do you find it necessary to slip into a Ralph Dorian valence, Diane?
>
> Why do you find it necessary to post anonymously to defend yourself,
> Tory?
>
> I specifically asked Magoo the questions you've chosen to answer.
> With no identification other than "Anonymous" you've chosen to
> speak as Tory/Magoo. I know you resorted to using multiple
> identities when you were posting for OSA; I hadn't realized you
> continued the practice after you transferred your loyalty from
> Hubbard to Minton.
>
> >Like Ralph, the smoke billowing from your ass is all too visible.
>
> There's absolutely no change from the crap you posted as an OSA
> loyalist and the crap you post now, Tory.
>
> Diane Richardson
> ref...@bway.net
Tigger
(Elizabeth Ann Cox) says to Lex:
>Why are you so secretive? You demand
> to know the intimate details regarding
> everyone else, yet reveal nothing of
> yourself. When something is discovered
> about you and is posted, you scream
> like a banshee. Now go play with your
> friend Erin and get some new pointers
> on how to handle a NG.
Dear Lady Manners Cox:
Are you saying that Tory's four minute conversation with a suicidal
scientologist whom she ddn't know and never met, was intimate and
personal?
If so, does that mean Tory is man crazy or just crazy? Or that you are
crazy? Or that you are the leader of the crowd who is trying to focus
attention away from two little questions which Tory won't answer?
!. What did Tory say?
2. Who was the other OT the LMT sent to "counsel" Greg Bashaw?
I have answered the second question. It was JESSE PRINCE.
Tigger
BTW Ms Cox, one of your crowd, DILBEERT PERKINS, has posted a
"Protect Minton" l0l course. Why don't you take it and stop your
vicious personal attacks on people who refuse to kiss Minton's ass?
Tigger
>My full and legal name is Starshadow,
> Icepick. No surname. I've said that
> before, but apparently you're growing
> illiterate in your old age, as well as your
> memory not being what it used to be.
Ms/Mr/Mrs Starshadow:
Diane Ricardson's full name is Diane Ricardson. Her name is not
icepick.
Why don't you use her real name? You have no trouble using mine when it
is not a name I use to post and I have asked several times that it not
be used.
If your "full" name is Starshadow, perhaps you could prove it by posting
the court papers where you changed it? Or something that shows you sign
as "Starshadow" on items in the real world.
Tigger
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I DON'T GIVE THEM HELL. I JUST TELL THEM THE TRUTH AND THEY THINK IT'S
HELL."'
Harry S. Truman (GIVE 'EM HELL, HARRY)
U. S. President
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tigger
cryptofortress DOT com (ptsc) wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:03:44 GMT,
> ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
> wrote:
>[nut rant deleted]
>Huff and puff all you like, nut. Everyone
> still knows it is an act of total idiocy to
> accuse Tory of being that remailer
> poster. Only a total moron would have
> done it. You've sure deteriorated.
Gee Mr. Rob Clark,
You mean what you posted wasn't the "nut rant"?
That anon mailer was answering for Tory, so you could say she was Tory's
man/woman and was saying what Tory would say, which is almost the same
as being Tory.
I believe that's a usual a.r.s. "tactic" that Ms Richardson just threw
back in a.r.s's face. I have been accused of being several people,
including Tom Padgett and Patricia Greenway because I stood up and
defended them, not because I spoke for them. I didn't see you go into
such a "nut rant" or even say one word when that happened.
>Moan some more. You'll still be just as
> wrong when you're done.
Moan all you want to. You can't erase what Tory saId and that she
opened the LMT Can of Worms.
Tigger
>ptsc
Tigger
>This from the hypocritical cunt who got
> all up in arms about Minton's "bad
> language".
LOL thank you, Starshadow, for pointing out that Minton uses "bad
language". No doubt Bob and Stacy will love you for that.
>What a fucking hypocrite, Icepick is.
Words of Wisdom (?) from Starshadow, the QUEEN OF MEAN and the GODDESS
OF HYPOCRISY.
hAND
Tigger
--
Bright Blessings,
Tigger
>Keep the malicious invective coming and
> we'll put together another Diane
> Richardson Exhibition.
Jim,
Was that nice? Was that a thrreat?
Was that blackmail?
If you want to put any exhibitions together, why don't you do some for
Starshadow and Bunnyann, two of the most malicious posters on this NG,
who drive legeitmate critics away and are a disgrace to the critic
movement?
It's too bad Minton's sorry tactics have rubbed off on you.
Tigger
Tigger
ness...@SPAMpsychassualt.org (Nessie) wrote:
>One of Diane's last lies before she went >for a Elrum Lobotomy.
--
>I made it up, but it's no lie --
>Diane Richardson
>ref...@bway.net
Geesh Nessie, are you drunk? Is this Nessie spam? Or just a variaiton
of Nessie PissyFit?
I made up a parody of Scientology/Narconon in Oklahoma called " A
Fairytale for Adults", The Wizard of Ron which was truth in a parody
form. I gave it as a speech three or four times. I won a Toastmasters
Speech contest with it. I made it up but it was not a lie.
Tigger
BTW how many lies do you post on this NG to attack critics. You just
posted one here with your asinine comment about a lobotomy.
P.S. Is that a picture of you in your sig line? Why do you post as
Nessie? Who are you?
>http://nessie.psychassualt.org/
/\_/\ (\
|o o| ) )
( »« )___________ ( (
||| ( Nessie )
(____________)
((( (((
====================
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tigger
ness...@SPAMpsychassualt.org (Nessie) wrote:
>"ptsc" <ptsc AT nym DOT cryptofortress
> DOT com> schreef in bericht
>news:h4927ugmrbcn4faruvgdp4m37a8fg
>ki...@4ax.com...
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:44:53 GMT,
>> ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:05:06 +0000
>>> (UTC), Anonymous User
>> <anon...@remailer.havenco.com> >>>wrote:
(snip)
>The funny farm has 'declared' her every
> time she pops up in ars. Posting here is
> her way of fulfilling the conditions to get
> back to the psychs.;-)
>I heard, 'they' study her at work too.
Hi Nessie,
I would agree that the "FUNNY FARM" where you, Bunnyann, Starshadow,
etc.
hang out, has declared Diane Richardson every time she has popped up on
a.r.s.
She made a ONE comment post and you funny farmers were out there with
your sickles, tractors, binders and hoes, to run her down, chop her up,
cut her throat and bind up her freedom of speech so what she "might"
say next would be plowed under with your vicious personal attacks.
Gee, you funny farmers and Minton must really be afraid she will shed
some light on several things.
The logic here would be that she tells the truth and you funny farmers
lie. And you are so afraid someone might see the truth, you become
what you claim you fight.
As for ptsc attacks, perhaps he is just the type of person who bites
the hands that fed him when he was in dire need of assistance?
Tigger
BTW, I would suggest you all turn yourseles over for a scientific study
of waht makes people herd together to be mean and vicious bullies.
Starshadow
Tigger wrote:
Yet another lunatic post in which Shirley claims answering
someone's lunacy by calling it what it is somehow
constitutes "silencing" them. Do tell the ng, Shirley, how
anyone has ever managed to "bind up her freedom of speech".
And while you're at it, explain what light shedding is
involved in claiming that my name is not my complete and
full one (when it certainly is) and in claiming that some
anon poster just HAS to be Tory simply because the great
Icepick sees shadows in every post that disagrees with her.
> The logic here would be that she tells the truth and you funny farmers
> lie. And you are so afraid someone might see the truth, you become
> what you claim you fight.
>
Diane's own words, Shirley "I made it up, but it's no lie".
Thus you insane morons damn yourselves with your own posts.
> As for ptsc attacks, perhaps he is just the type of person who bites
> the hands that fed him when he was in dire need of assistance?
>
>
Tigger
>
Or you might again be blowing smoke out of your arse
without knowing jack shit about what went down with ptsc
long before you made yourself a blip on the radar around
ars, Shirley. Like Diane, do you claim that you don't lie,
you only make things up?
> BTW, I would suggest you all turn yourseles over for a scientific study
> of waht makes people herd together to be mean and vicious bullies.
>
And I suggest you turn yourself into the Society For
Terminal Stupidity And Endless Shrillness and Whining. Of
course you are free to keep posting shit and endlessly
whine instead, just like you always do.
Face it, Shirley. Disagreeing with your words with other words
isn't bullying and it doesn't in any way interfere with
your free speech.
Starshadow
Tigger wrote:
> JimDBB says:
>
>
>>Keep the malicious invective coming and
>>we'll put together another Diane
>>Richardson Exhibition.
>>
>
> Jim,
>
> Was that nice? Was that a thrreat?
> Was that blackmail?
>
> If you want to put any exhibitions together, why don't you do some for
> Starshadow and Bunnyann, two of the most malicious posters on this NG,
> who drive legeitmate critics away and are a disgrace to the critic
> movement?
>
> It's too bad Minton's sorry tactics have rubbed off on you.
>
>
Shirley, your hyperbole machine is stuck in overdrive,
again. Or is that as usual?
BTW, have you decided you're not a "legeitmate (sic)
poster" finally? After all, Bunnyann and I don't seem to
have managed to drive *you* away, as per your spurious claim.
Starshadow
Tigger wrote:
> Starshadow says:
>
>
>>This from the hypocritical cunt who got
>>all up in arms about Minton's "bad
>>language".
>>
>
> LOL thank you, Starshadow, for pointing out that Minton uses "bad
> language". No doubt Bob and Stacy will love you for that.
>
>>What a fucking hypocrite, Icepick is.
>>
>
> Words of Wisdom (?) from Starshadow, the QUEEN OF MEAN and the GODDESS
> OF HYPOCRISY.
Be sure to point out any actual hypocrisy in any of my
posts, Shirley. I'll want dates, posts, and full attributes.
You can't?
Then admit as usual you are making shit up as you go.
>
> hAND
>
> Tigger
>
--
Bright Blessings,
Starshadow KoX, SP5, Official Wiccan Chaplain ARSCC(wdne)
Starshadow
Tigger wrote:
> Starshadow says to Diane R."
>
>
>>My full and legal name is Starshadow,
>>Icepick. No surname. I've said that
>>before, but apparently you're growing
>>illiterate in your old age, as well as your
>>memory not being what it used to be.
>>
>
> Ms/Mr/Mrs Starshadow:
>
> Diane Ricardson's full name is Diane Ricardson. Her name is not
> icepick.
> Why don't you use her real name? You have no trouble using mine when it
> is not a name I use to post and I have asked several times that it not
> be used.
I will not call you by the name of one of Chris Milne's
beloved stuffed animals, Shirley, when your attributes are
far from any of the ones attributed to the original
Tigger. However, if you'd prefer Chigger, since that
attribute fits, I'll switch. Let me know.
As for Icepick's nickname, she came by it honestly.
You can call ME anything you prefer, Shirley. You've done
it in the past.
>
> If your "full" name is Starshadow, perhaps you could prove it by posting
> the court papers where you changed it? Or something that shows you sign
> as "Starshadow" on items in the real world.
If you come to Seattle, I'll meet you in a public place
and show you. Until then, this is one of those demands you
continually make that won't be fulfilled. Sucks to be you,
doesn't it, Shirley?
>
> Tigger
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "I DON'T GIVE THEM HELL. I JUST TELL THEM THE TRUTH AND THEY THINK IT'S
> HELL."'
>
> Harry S. Truman (GIVE 'EM HELL, HARRY)
> U. S. President
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
Starshadow
Tigger wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 4:24pm (CST+1) From: ptsc AT nym DOT
> cryptofortress DOT com (ptsc) wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:03:44 GMT,
>>ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>>wrote:
>>
>
>>[nut rant deleted]
>>
>
>>Huff and puff all you like, nut. Everyone
>>still knows it is an act of total idiocy to
>>accuse Tory of being that remailer
>>poster. Only a total moron would have
>>done it. You've sure deteriorated.
>>
>
> Gee Mr. Rob Clark,
>
> You mean what you posted wasn't the "nut rant"?
>
> That anon mailer was answering for Tory, so you could say she was Tory's
> man/woman and was saying what Tory would say, which is almost the same
> as being Tory.
Shirley, please get off that cheap crack you're smoking.
It's making you look really stupid. Oh, wait, you've
already done that. Never mind.
Will someone please explain to Shirley that in a public
forum anyone can and will answer to public posts JUST LIKE
SHE INSISTS ON DOING FOR ICEPICK??
Shirley just thinks I'm being mean everytime I try to
point something out that's obvious to anyone who isn't an
insane moron.
> I believe that's a usual a.r.s. "tactic" that Ms Richardson just threw
> back in a.r.s's face. I have been accused of being several people,
> including Tom Padgett and Patricia Greenway because I stood up and
> defended them, not because I spoke for them. I didn't see you go into
> such a "nut rant" or even say one word when that happened.
>
Maybe because ptsc doesn't want to waste his time or
bandwidth trying to educate either you or lurkers who read
your idiocy, Shirley. That would be one of my guesses, YMMV.
>
>>Moan some more. You'll still be just as
>>wrong when you're done.
>>
>
> Moan all you want to. You can't erase what Tory saId and that she
> opened the LMT Can of Worms.
You're one of the Three Great Moaners here, Shirley. Not
ptsc who simply points out that Once Again, Icepick Gets
It Wrong.
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
Do post my "proven lies", Icepick. With full headers and
attributes, of course.
This from the "proven liar" Icepick who made the statement
during her last namecalling stint that "I made it up, but
it's no lie".I'm sure I can find the full header to prove
you made THAT post, if needed.
This in the context of her continued "I know you are but
what am I" style posts which she is demonstrating here
with Rob Clark, once again.
>
>
> Diane Richardson
> ref...@bway.net
>
As to my name, Icepick, I make the same offer I made to
Shirley. Meet me in a public place in Seattle, and I will
show you my id card.
If you don't want to do that, suffer. No skin off my
teeth, as my grandmother used to say.
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
No, the exact quote was "I made it up, but it's no lie".
What I stated was a paraphrase which any moron could see
was pretty accurate. As to your saying Rob had lived with
you, it was your phrasing of "Rob Clark stayed with me and
ate my food" which many would interpret as "lived with me"
in context of the last discussion which you terminated by
shrill shrieks of "I know you are but what am I" style
namecalling, Icepick. It's this type of exchange which, in
fact, helped earn you the nickname.
>
>>And what any of that has to do with my being a lesbian is
>>anyone's guess. I presume you think you are insulting me,
>>as well. Must suck to be you, you're wrong so often.
>>
>
> I find it odd you choose to screech and moan about my
> reference to Rob Clark's micropenis, Starshadow. Why
> would you find that so objectionable when you're quite
> willing to mention female genitalia at the drop of a hat?
>
Do explain how pointing out that your reference to
genitalia in one post while having decried someone else's
reference to female genitalia in endless posts in the past
is "screech(ing) and moan(ing)", Diane. You seem
fascinated by the word "micropenis", though. You keep
using it even when it isn't needed. Do you wish you had
one of your very own, or are you just trying to match
creative use of pithy language with endless repetition of
your own?
>
>>Or have you turned into a massive masochist to go along
>>with your massive stupidity and massive cluelessness?
>>
>
> The clueless person here is you, Starshadow. You scream
> at others about hypocrisy while showing your own willingness
> to twist facts in desperate attemps to belittle others. All you
> end up doing is smearing yourself.
>
I do post your words back at you, Icepick. If you don't
like them, don't post them in the first place, is my
advice. Not that you'll listen. You've already made it
clear your entire existance is predicated on your making
yourself right no matter the cost. Too bad it doesn't work.
>
> Diane Richardson
> ref...@bway.net
Starshadow
Diane Richardson wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:41:13 GMT, Starshadow
> <stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>>>>>No, you've made it quite clear Starshadow is your chosen name.
>>>>>What you're not so up front about is what your surname is. False
>>>>>courage and braggadocio only go so far, Starshadow, and you
>>>>>hit that limit a long, long time ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>So what's your full name? Mine is the one I use to sign my posts
>>>>>with, viz:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>My full and legal name is Starshadow, Icepick. No surname.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Yeah, sure, and my full and legal name is Referen.
>>>
>>
>>Is that what your legal I.D. says, Icepick? Thought not.
>>
>
> Just as I don't believe your "legal I.D." reads Starshadow. You're
> the hypocrite who screeches and blathers about others not revealing
> their real identities while you refuse to reveal your own.
Wanna see my real id, Icepick? Come to Seattle. I'll even
buy you a cup of coffee at the original Starbuck's, or
indeed at any public location of your choosing. Until
then, you'll have to deal with believing what you will.
Just like you believed ptsc was Grady Ward and twils,
before he outed himself.
>
>>>>I've said that before, but apparently you're growing
>>>>illiterate in your old age, as well as your memory not
>>>>being what it used to be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You've failed to answer my question, Starshadow, so I'll ask again:
>>>What drugs do you think I have in my system, Starshadow?
>>>
>>Cheap crack, would be my guess. Unless you're growing senile.
>>
>
> In other words, you claimed I take drugs without having any factual
> basis for making such a statement. You're pathetic.
>
What, you can't recognize a bit of hyperbole when you
don't originate it, Icepick?
"I made it up, but it's no lie" is apparently only
permissible when you do it.
Well, deal with it, Icepick. You're not the arbiter of
posts on this ng.I've said it before and likely will say
it again, it must suck to be you. You can't make anything
go your way.
>
> Diane Richardson
> ref...@bway.net
Nessie
"Diane Richardson" <ref...@bway.net> schreef in bericht
news:3c4965c...@news.giganews.com...
Another lie from Iceprick Diane Richardson.
Here is her posting, where she says:
--I made it up, but it's no lie --
Look in her posting for:
**I made it up, but it's no lie --**
Van:Diane Richardson (ref...@bway.net)
Onderwerp:Re: The Leo J. Ryan Educational Foundation conference
Discussies:alt.religion.scientology
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Datum:2001-11-01 05:21:19 PST
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:25:34 -0500, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT alias DOT
net> wrote:
>On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:47:53 GMT, "Starshadow"
<stars...@starshadowxenu.net>
>wrote:
>
>>"Diane Richardson" <ref...@bway.net> wrote in message
>>> Pity you couldn't get Minton to come through with that plane
>>> ticket, Rob. You know what a bummer it is to go through life
>>> begging
>>> handouts from others.
>>And your proof that he even asked for one is precisely what, Diane?
>>Should we count this as a lie, or hyperbole? (Just trying to keep
>>track). Or maybe just one of those wild accusations with nothing to
>>back it up you are so fond of making?
>
>It's just a plain old garden variety lie.
It's an ironic commentary on your character, as demonstrated by
your previous behavior, Rob. You've admitted yourself you begged
money from people on the newsgroup based on a lie of your own
manufacture.
>I never asked for any such thing,
>though if I had some compelling reason to be there, I have no doubt Bob
would
>have begrudged me a loan.
And I'm sure you would have accepted it, drooling and slobbering to
everyone about the goodness of your benefactor.
>In either case, Diane is of course making things up and lying, as usual.
**I made it up, but it's no lie --** just a sarcastic commentary based on
your own self-acknowledged less-than-admirable behavior.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
JimDBB
>From: ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>>Whew! the Princess of Darkness, Diane Richardson, is back and full of fresh
>>vitriol.
>>Keep the malicious invective coming and we'll put together another Diane
>>Richardson Exhibition.
>>
>>I'd like to say 'welcome back' but I can't force myself to do it.
>
>Jim, if you stop making harrassing telephone calls to people you've
>targeted as enemies, you might have enough money to make a
>little payment on those credit card debts.
>Diane Richardson
And what harassing phone calls might those be? And to whom? Are you going to
start up your lies and false accusations again?
Jimdbb
Starshadow
JimDBB wrote:
Icepick doesn't let a small thing like truth ever stand in
her way, Jim. She figures anyone reading the ng will be
taken in if she blows enough smoke. Too bad most people
who read her words remember her history ever since she
decided to stop criticizing CofS and went after anyone who
ever dared disagree with her in public on this ng.
Trouble is, she's not as careful with her words as she
once was either. Obsessions will sometimes do that to a
person.
JimDBB
>Date: 2/19/02 11:28 AM Central
>>Subject: Re: Diane Richardson blows smoke out her ass.
>>From: ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>
>>>Whew! the Princess of Darkness, Diane Richardson, is back and full of
>fresh
>>>vitriol.
>>>Keep the malicious invective coming and we'll put together another Diane
>>>Richardson Exhibition.
>>>
>>>I'd like to say 'welcome back' but I can't force myself to do it.
>>
>>Jim, if you stop making harrassing telephone calls to people you've
>>targeted as enemies, you might have enough money to make a
>>little payment on those credit card debts.
>
>>Diane Richardson
Diane, I have a Paypal account now if you would like to make a contribution.
Jimdbb
Ava
>
>As to my name, Icepick, I make the same offer I made to
>Shirley. Meet me in a public place in Seattle, and I will
>show you my id card.
Question is: what skid row street corner did you buy your ID?
>
>If you don't want to do that, suffer. No skin off my
>teeth, as my grandmother used to say.
You still have your teeth??
Nessie
"Tigger" <boobook...@webtv.net> schreef in bericht
news:5553-3C7...@storefull-2276.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> JimDBB says:
>
> >Keep the malicious invective coming and
> > we'll put together another Diane
> > Richardson Exhibition.
>
> Jim,
>
> Was that nice? Was that a thrreat?
> Was that blackmail?
>
> If you want to put any exhibitions together, why don't you do some for
> Starshadow and Bunnyann, two of the most malicious posters on this NG,
> who drive legeitmate critics away and are a disgrace to the critic
> movement?
YOU, Tigger, are a disgrace where ever you are or go
I'm compelled to feel very sorry for your kids, who have to
listen to your disturbed malfunctions, manipulations and lies.
> It's too bad Minton's sorry tactics have rubbed off on you.
It's too bad for your kids you don't get the help you obviously
need so badly.
Wake up for christ sake, Tigger, and look what you have
become!
Nessie.
Nessie
accept the word of a proven liar like you, Iceprick?
Your own words:
--
I made it up, but it's no lie --
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Nessie.
Nessie
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:41:38 -0500, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT
> cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 04:23:58 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:24:39 -0500, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT
> >>cryptofortress DOT com> wrote:
> >
> >>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:03:44 GMT, ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
wrote:
> >>
> >>>[nut rant deleted]
> >
> >>Let me repost that "nut rant" you chose to delete, Rob.
> >
> >Let me snip it again, nut.
>
> Here it is again, Rob Clark:
>
> You wrote:
> >You stupid cunt.
>
> And I replied:
> I would call you a prick in return, Rob, but your micropenis doesn't
> quite qualify for that term.
Any man listening and looking at you at the same time would
most probably or eventually get a shrinking prick, Iceprick.
What did you expect and want from ptsc? A hard on?
A paid lover?
Bwa,bwa,bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Ptsc just couldn't get it up for
you, could he? Yell, yeah, the grapes are sour:-)
--I made it up, but it's no lie --
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Nessie.
http://nessie.psychassualt.org/
/\_/\ (\
|o o| ) )
( 猾 )___________ ( (
Ava
>
>What I find fascinating is your unwillingness to acknowledge what you
>wrote. Or is it my reply to what you wrote that you just don't want
>to see?
>
>>Continue to make yourself look like
>>a fool, though. That's all you're good for anyway.
This coming from the man that makes bomb threats, denies making them,
apologizes, denies making them, apologizes again, denies making them, apologizes
again and again and again......
>
>You're the fool, Rob.
That's an understatement.....
Ava
>>
>>Aren't you getting tired of being wrong yet, Icepick?
>>Starshadow is my full and real name, as you've been told
>>before.
>
>Why would I (or anyone else, for that matter) be willing to
>accept the word of a proven liar like you, Starshadow?
Can we all give Diane and Starshadow a big - MEOWWWWWWWW!!!
Birgitta
CAN was taken over by CoS. You didn't know that?
Bid
On 19 Feb 2002 09:27:44 -0500, x <naa...@vhost.shocking.com> wrote:
>Tigger <boobook...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 11:44am (CST+1) From: eliza...@chesapeake.net
>> (Elizabeth?Ann?Cox) says to Lex:
>
>> Dear Lady Manners Cox:
>
>> Are you saying that Tory's four minute conversation with a suicidal
>> scientologist whom she ddn't know and never met, was intimate and
>> personal?
>
>...Lady Libby is a patholocigal liar. She's lied from the day she arrived on net.
>Funny how flukes ignore this fact.
>
>> If so, does that mean Tory is man crazy or just crazy? Or that you are
>> crazy? Or that you are the leader of the crowd who is trying to focus
>> attention away from two little questions which Tory won't answer?
>
>> !. What did Tory say?
>
>> 2. Who was the other OT the LMT sent to "counsel" Greg Bashaw?
>
>> I have answered the second question. It was JESSE PRINCE.
>
>...you can add now the 3. question: What did she mean, when he said to rabbi Mentz on radio,
>that she was part of the CAN? She was still a fullblood scientologist when CAN was a critical
>org.. She probably ment that she was part of the forces that destroy CAN. How wonderful it
>must be, living in a dream where your old sins simply turns out to be a heroic act in one
>tiny sentence. :)
>
>> BTW Ms Cox, one of your crowd, DILBEERT PERKINS, has posted a
>> "Protect Minton" l0l course. Why don't you take it and stop your
>> vicious personal attacks on people who refuse to kiss Minton's ass?
>
>...yeah poor "more-out-that-a-snowman-dilbert", bunny felt immediatly a warm comradship
>to that moron. I guess bunny is right after all, able always attracts the unable. Only difficulty
>left is to decide which one of them is more unable. :)
Birgitta
>Birgitta <xe...@post.netlink.se> wrote:
>> Lex,
>
>> CAN was taken over by CoS. You didn't know that?
>
>...sure i know, and i also know that tory was in osa in that time, so go
>re-read what you missunderstud.
You did know? If that is the case, why did you write this?
"...if i heard right, tory was claiming to rabbi that she was part of
CAN, i think thats a lie. She was still a scieno way after CAN was
closed."
Bid
Diane Richardson
You called me at my place of business, Jim. That's a well-known fact,
since you couldn't restrain yourself from bragging over your coup on
this newsgroup.
You know this is the truth, I know it's the truth, and dozens if not
hundreds of people reading this newsgroup know it's the truth.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Diane Richardson
<stars...@starshadow.net> wrote:
>
>
>JimDBB wrote:
>
>>>Subject: Re: Diane Richardson blows smoke out her ass.
>>>From: ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>>>
>>
>>>>Whew! the Princess of Darkness, Diane Richardson, is back and full of fresh
>>>>vitriol.
>>>>Keep the malicious invective coming and we'll put together another Diane
>>>>Richardson Exhibition.
>>>>
>>>>I'd like to say 'welcome back' but I can't force myself to do it.
>>>>
>>>Jim, if you stop making harrassing telephone calls to people you've
>>>targeted as enemies, you might have enough money to make a
>>>little payment on those credit card debts.
>>>
>>
>>>Diane Richardson
>>>
>>
>> And what harassing phone calls might those be? And to whom? Are you going to
>> start up your lies and false accusations again?
>>
>> Jimdbb
>>
>
>
>Icepick doesn't let a small thing like truth ever stand in
>her way, Jim.
You are quite aware of the fact that JimDBB called me at work
after I specifically told him not to, Starshadow. If you'd like, I'll
dig up your response to JimDBB as he was strutting all over
this newsgroup bragging about his bravery.
>She figures anyone reading the ng will be
>taken in if she blows enough smoke.
The only one blowing smoke here is you, Starshadow.
You know JimDBB called me at work after I advised
him not to do so. You also know he continued threatening
to continue calling me, until I was forced to warn him that
I would take legal action against him.
>Too bad most people
>who read her words remember her history ever since she
>decided to stop criticizing CofS and went after anyone who
>ever dared disagree with her in public on this ng.
You don't have to remember that far back to recall your
own post advising JimDBB to cool it and stop threatening
me, Starshadow. Obviously you have a very selective
memory.
>Trouble is, she's not as careful with her words as she
>once was either. Obsessions will sometimes do that to a
>person.
The only obessesed person on this thread is JimDBB, who
continued threatening to harass me at my workplace for
months.
Of course, you'll choose to ignore JimDBB's reprehensible
behavior now, since you'll ally yourself with the devil himself
when it suits your own interests.
What a pitiful excuse for a human being.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Mustafa
Richardson) wrote:
> On 19 Feb 2002 05:13:18 GMT, jim...@aol.com (JimDBB) wrote:
>
> >>Subject: Re: Diane Richardson blows smoke out her ass.
> >>From: ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
> >
> >>I would call you a prick in return, Rob, but your micropenis doesn't
> >>>> quite qualify for that term.
> >
> >>Do you find something objectionable to the word "micropenis,"
> >>Starshadow. I understand you're a lesbian, but frankly I find
> >>Rob Clark's reference to female genitalia far more revolting
> >>than my reference to the minute size of his penis.
> >
> >>No, dear, the hypocrite is the lesbian perfectly at home with
> >>seeing a woman described as a cunt, but insulted by a reference
> >>to Rob Clark's micropenis.
> >
> >Whew! the Princess of Darkness, Diane Richardson, is back and full of fresh
> >vitriol.
> >Keep the malicious invective coming and we'll put together another Diane
> >Richardson Exhibition.
> >
> >I'd like to say 'welcome back' but I can't force myself to do it.
>
> Jim, if you stop making harrassing telephone calls to people you've
> targeted as enemies, you might have enough money to make a
> little payment on those credit card debts.
>
God, this is better than the fucking olympics. Somebody pass me some
popcorn!
Mustafa
(Diane Richardson) wrote:
> You called me at my place of business, Jim. That's a well-known fact,
> since you couldn't restrain yourself from bragging over your coup on
> this newsgroup.
>
ROFLMAO!
Good one, Jim. Maybe we could organize a nice picket next time. Signs
would read "Icepick works here" "End Icepick Slavery"
Michael
ARS, on Dianes Que- CERTAINLY I would be among the
flukes,morons,nazis,padgetts, and bigots.
Take the pary line! Destroy Scientology or perish! Lie,do anything to
harm them......
Send money! picket......yadda......yadda
go to jail. Its for the cause!!!
If your new here, do searches on people BEFORE doing anything.
Draw your own conclusions.
Michael
Michael
1.LMT is VERY worried about possible culpability in this fellows death.
(justified or not)
2.The anon user is a sock puppet of the MOST worried person.
Could Tory have said something to make him worse? Actually anything is
possible.
Thats a very uncomfortable question for several people isnt it?
3.The legacy of LMT is arrogance and mishandlings.
Michael
Phil Scott
wrote:
Well Michael, you might also suggest that newbies do some searching on the cult
of scientology's criminal record too. Try searching google with the key words
'Scientology, fraud, crime' for starters. and look at the press and SEC
reports on www.slatkinfraud.com
and at www.scientology-lies.com and www.xenu.net and www.lermanet.com
Phil Scott
>
JimDBB
>>>Jim, if you stop making harrassing telephone calls to people you've
>>>targeted as enemies, you might have enough money to make a
>>>little payment on those credit card debts.
>>
>>>Diane Richardson
Jimdbb wrote:
>>And what harassing phone calls might those be? And to whom? Are you going to
>>start up your lies and false accusations again?
>You called me at my place of business, Jim. That's a well-known fact, since
you couldn't restrain yourself from bragging over your coup on this newsgroup.
That was hardly a 'harassing' phone call. You emailed me your phone number
which led me to assume that you wanted me to call you... possibly to arrange a
liason.
>You know this is the truth, I know it's the truth, and dozens if not hundreds
of people reading this newsgroup know it's the truth.
So help me, L. Ron Hubbard.
JImdbb
JimDBB
>>>>Jim, if you stop making harrassing telephone calls to people you've
>>>>targeted as enemies, you might have enough money to make a
>>>>little payment on those credit card debts.
>>>>Diane Richardson
>>> And what harassing phone calls might those be? And to whom? Are you going
>to
>>> start up your lies and false accusations again?
>You are quite aware of the fact that JimDBB called me at work
>after I specifically told him not to, Starshadow. If you'd like, I'll
>dig up your response to JimDBB as he was strutting all over
>this newsgroup bragging about his bravery.
Why do you continue to lie about this when, in fact, the truth is that you
emailed me your phone number.
>The only one blowing smoke here is you, Starshadow. You know JimDBB called me
at work after I advised him not to do so. You also know he continued
threatening
>to continue calling me, until I was forced to warn him that I would take legal
action against him.
I only called you once after you emailed me your phone number. That call was
like speaking with Darth Vader...once was quite enough.
>Of course, you'll choose to ignore JimDBB's reprehensible
>behavior now, since you'll ally yourself with the devil himself
>when it suits your own interests.
Isn't Starshow a Wiccan? I don't know whether to be insulted or honored with
this remark.
JImdbb
Diane Richardson
>>Subject: Re: Diane Richardson blows smoke out her ass.
>>From: ref...@bway.net (Diane Richardson)
>>Date: 2/19/02 7:14 PM Central
>
>>>>Jim, if you stop making harrassing telephone calls to people you've
>>>>targeted as enemies, you might have enough money to make a
>>>>little payment on those credit card debts.
>>>
>>>>Diane Richardson
>
>Jimdbb wrote:
>
>>>And what harassing phone calls might those be? And to whom? Are you going to
>>>start up your lies and false accusations again?
>
>>You called me at my place of business, Jim. That's a well-known fact, since
>you couldn't restrain yourself from bragging over your coup on this newsgroup.
>
>That was hardly a 'harassing' phone call.
It WAS a harassing phone call. It can't be described as anything BUT
a harassing phone call. When you called, I notified you I considered
it harassment and that I would file a complaint with the authorities
if you called again. To guarantee that you understood my words,
I repeated them several times, each time asking you if you understood
what I was saying. Each time you asserted you understood.
>You emailed me your phone number
>which led me to assume that you wanted me to call you... possibly to arrange a
>liason.
I've posted our exchange on the newsgroup in the past, and I will dig
it up once again and post it here to show the world what a lying piece
of excrement you really are. You asked for my contact information on
a.r.s. to provide to your buddy, the purported Laura Terepin Morrison.
When I emailed that information to you, I specified it was to be used
only for that purpose. You chose, instead, to use it to harrass me at
my workplace.
>>You know this is the truth, I know it's the truth, and dozens if not hundreds
>of people reading this newsgroup know it's the truth.
>
>So help me, L. Ron Hubbard.
You and L. Ron Hubbard share the same disregard for the truth, Jim.
"What is true for you is true" only works when you're a Scientologist.
I thought you'd given up such twisted morality. I guess you haven't.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net
Chris Leithiser
Great! _That_ would put $cientology out of business. Or was that
_last_ week's objective?
Tigger
>Maybe because ptsc doesn't want to
> waste his time or bandwidth trying to
> educate either you or lurkers who read
> your idiocy, Shirley. That would be one
> of my guesses, YMMV.
Then why do you want to waste your time trying to educate such an idiiot
as I? Surely you know I am a moron, incurable, beyond redemption and
a waste of time. You have said so over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
What's the matter, the Bitch of all Witches strained her brain trying to
cast evil spells and posting so many personal attacks she can't
remember what she said?
Tigger, the incurable idiot.
BTW you have convinced me you are an Incurabe BULLY. I'm outa here.
So Queen of Mean, Goddess of Hypocrisy and Ruler of Bullydom, you can
have the stage all to yourself.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I DON'T GIVE THEM HELL. I JUST TELL THEM THE TRUTH AND THEY THINK IT'S
HELL."'
Harry S. Truman (GIVE 'EM HELL, HARRY)
U. S. President
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Starshadow
Tigger wrote:
Nothing at all about CofS. Let's talk about the abuses of
the CofS.
I'll start.
Do you agree that the CofS should pay Lawrence Wollersheim
the more than 8 million dollar settlement they owe him?
I do.