I think Hubbard's true sexual history might be in his therapy folder
work, the "preclear folders" of L. Ron Hubbard.
I also have urged David Mayo and Paulette Ausley, and any other people
who HAD access to Hubbard's "therapy" "case" folders, where Hubbard's
childhood incidents might be found, to please, before they die, write
at least the answers to the questions like you speculate.
One thing, Hubbard's system of religious spiritual therapy, that is
WAY more intense and unbelievably intricate with it's rules and
questions, and procedures for every single moment of the Scientology
spiritual therapy sessions, Hubbard's rules also made keeping the
patient's statements about incidents, in writing, is a boon for
researchers to find what Hubbard's life and past lives were all about.
The answers might just be in Hubbard's therapy session folders, which
Hubbard's rules said that is where that information was to be kept.
The men and women who were Hubbard's therapists, those are the people
to ask these questions, and I think for history's sake, that those men
and women with access to Hubbard's sessions' records, should write
their information for release AFTER they die.
I think it is worth knowing.
All this said, I heard from some of the women familiar with the
messengers who lived around Hubbard, amongst them, the opinion is that
because Hubbard took so much testosterone drugs and other medical
drugs, that he ruined chemically himself on the sex drive front, in
his later years.
The truth of his orientation, that could be possibly found from
studying Hubbard's case folders and getting that info from the people
who dealt with his case folders or who directly gave therapy sessions
to Hubbard.
When people are dead, I think the truth about all details of their
lives are "fair game" to be shared, and I urge people like Mayo and
Ausley/Cohen to write what they witnessed, even if for release after
they themselves pass away, just so history is shared accurately and
honestly on these points.
At the Int Base today, if one looks at Marc Headley's book, there are
maps at the front and back of the book, showing the buildings at the
Int Base.
One building is where they keep the "case folders" of all the "blown"
and deceased and "hot" ex members.
Hubbard's "tech" writings say that the folders SHOULD be kept
longrange, for the future lives auditing referral BACK to those case
folders, when a person "returns" in a future life, where the person
claims to have been "such and such" a person in their past life.
Hubbard in church scriptures has given a tiny amount of administrative
directions to how to deal with people "coming back" in their future
lives, and claiming they have achieved in their past lives certain
case statuses.
Scientology's "case" focus, to me, is one of the most heavily UN
focused upon points in all of the recent books on Scientology.
It's a whole huge zone of discussion and truly, the "case" therapy
activities of Scientology ARE the guts of Scientology!
Thanks for your years of writing on alt.relgion.scientology Skip, and
for being so communicative and "reactive!"
> I think Hubbard's true sexual history might be in his therapy folder
> work, the "preclear folders" of L. Ron Hubbard.
> I also have urged David Mayo and Paulette Ausley, and any other people
> who HAD access to Hubbard's "therapy" "case" folders, where Hubbard's
> childhood incidents might be found, to please, before they die, write
> at least the answers to the questions like you speculate.
> One thing, Hubbard's system of religious spiritual therapy, that is
> WAY more intense and unbelievably intricate with it's rules and
> questions, and procedures for every single moment of the Scientology
> spiritual therapy sessions, Hubbard's rules also made keeping the
> patient's statements about incidents, in writing, is a boon for
> researchers to find what Hubbard's life and past lives were all about.
> The answers might just be in Hubbard's therapy session folders, which
> Hubbard's rules said that is where that information was to be kept.
> The men and women who were Hubbard's therapists, those are the people
> to ask these questions, and I think for history's sake, that those men
> and women with access to Hubbard's sessions' records, should write
> their information for release AFTER they die.
> I think it is worth knowing.
> All this said, I heard from some of the women familiar with the
> messengers who lived around Hubbard, amongst them, the opinion is that
> because Hubbard took so much testosterone drugs and other medical
> drugs, that he ruined chemically himself on the sex drive front, in
> his later years.
> The truth of his orientation, that could be possibly found from
> studying Hubbard's case folders and getting that info from the people
> who dealt with his case folders or who directly gave therapy sessions
> to Hubbard.
> When people are dead, I think the truth about all details of their
> lives are "fair game" to be shared, and I urge people like Mayo and
> Ausley/Cohen to write what they witnessed, even if for release after
> they themselves pass away, just so history is shared accurately and
> honestly on these points.
> At the Int Base today, if one looks at Marc Headley's book, there are
> maps at the front and back of the book, showing the buildings at the
> Int Base.
> One building is where they keep the "case folders" of all the "blown"
> and deceased and "hot" ex members.
> Hubbard's "tech" writings say that the folders SHOULD be kept
> longrange, for the future lives auditing referral BACK to those case
> folders, when a person "returns" in a future life, where the person
> claims to have been "such and such" a person in their past life.
> Hubbard in church scriptures has given a tiny amount of administrative
> directions to how to deal with people "coming back" in their future
> lives, and claiming they have achieved in their past lives certain
> case statuses.
> Scientology's "case" focus, to me, is one of the most heavily UN
> focused upon points in all of the recent books on Scientology.
> It's a whole huge zone of discussion and truly, the "case" therapy
> activities of Scientology ARE the guts of Scientology!
> Thanks for your years of writing on alt.relgion.scientology Skip, and
> for being so communicative and "reactive!"
The only Hubbard life I'm concerned with was the LRH one, Chuck. I
can't imagine one more insane. I never thought much of David Mayo when
he was around, and Paulette Ausley I loathe from everything I've heard
of her. I don't expect either of those two former slavish devotees of
Hubbard to do anything worthwhile to help completely end the
abomination called $cientology.
I told $cientology a long time ago they could burn my folders in front
of me, I'd like to laugh watching them do it.
There is NO VALUE in those pieces of paper other than documentation of
the mental masturbation called auditing, and anyone who holds onto a
belief it has any value is delusional.
> > I think Hubbard's true sexual history might be in his therapy folder
> > work, the "preclear folders" of L. Ron Hubbard.
> > I also have urged David Mayo and Paulette Ausley, and any other people
> > who HAD access to Hubbard's "therapy" "case" folders, where Hubbard's
> > childhood incidents might be found, to please, before they die, write
> > at least the answers to the questions like you speculate.
> > One thing, Hubbard's system of religious spiritual therapy, that is
> > WAY more intense and unbelievably intricate with it's rules and
> > questions, and procedures for every single moment of the Scientology
> > spiritual therapy sessions, Hubbard's rules also made keeping the
> > patient's statements about incidents, in writing, is a boon for
> > researchers to find what Hubbard's life and past lives were all about.
> > The answers might just be in Hubbard's therapy session folders, which
> > Hubbard's rules said that is where that information was to be kept.
> > The men and women who were Hubbard's therapists, those are the people
> > to ask these questions, and I think for history's sake, that those men
> > and women with access to Hubbard's sessions' records, should write
> > their information for release AFTER they die.
> > I think it is worth knowing.
> > All this said, I heard from some of the women familiar with the
> > messengers who lived around Hubbard, amongst them, the opinion is that
> > because Hubbard took so much testosterone drugs and other medical
> > drugs, that he ruined chemically himself on the sex drive front, in
> > his later years.
> > The truth of his orientation, that could be possibly found from
> > studying Hubbard's case folders and getting that info from the people
> > who dealt with his case folders or who directly gave therapy sessions
> > to Hubbard.
> > When people are dead, I think the truth about all details of their
> > lives are "fair game" to be shared, and I urge people like Mayo and
> > Ausley/Cohen to write what they witnessed, even if for release after
> > they themselves pass away, just so history is shared accurately and
> > honestly on these points.
> > At the Int Base today, if one looks at Marc Headley's book, there are
> > maps at the front and back of the book, showing the buildings at the
> > Int Base.
> > One building is where they keep the "case folders" of all the "blown"
> > and deceased and "hot" ex members.
> > Hubbard's "tech" writings say that the folders SHOULD be kept
> > longrange, for the future lives auditing referral BACK to those case
> > folders, when a person "returns" in a future life, where the person
> > claims to have been "such and such" a person in their past life.
> > Hubbard in church scriptures has given a tiny amount of administrative
> > directions to how to deal with people "coming back" in their future
> > lives, and claiming they have achieved in their past lives certain
> > case statuses.
> > Scientology's "case" focus, to me, is one of the most heavily UN
> > focused upon points in all of the recent books on Scientology.
> > It's a whole huge zone of discussion and truly, the "case" therapy
> > activities of Scientology ARE the guts of Scientology!
> > Thanks for your years of writing on alt.relgion.scientology Skip, and
> > for being so communicative and "reactive!"
> The only Hubbard life I'm concerned with was the LRH one, Chuck. I
> can't imagine one more insane. I never thought much of David Mayo when
> he was around, and Paulette Ausley I loathe from everything I've heard
> of her. I don't expect either of those two former slavish devotees of
> Hubbard to do anything worthwhile to help completely end the
> abomination called $cientology.
> I told $cientology a long time ago they could burn my folders in front
> of me, I'd like to laugh watching them do it.
> There is NO VALUE in those pieces of paper other than documentation of
> the mental masturbation called auditing, and anyone who holds onto a
> belief it has any value is delusional.
Hey Skip,
Fyodor Dostoyevsky would have had fun with the RPF as a subject!
I'm listening to
> > > I think Hubbard's true sexual history might be in his therapy folder
> > > work, the "preclear folders" of L. Ron Hubbard.
> > > I also have urged David Mayo and Paulette Ausley, and any other people
> > > who HAD access to Hubbard's "therapy" "case" folders, where Hubbard's
> > > childhood incidents might be found, to please, before they die, write
> > > at least the answers to the questions like you speculate.
> > > One thing, Hubbard's system of religious spiritual therapy, that is
> > > WAY more intense and unbelievably intricate with it's rules and
> > > questions, and procedures for every single moment of the Scientology
> > > spiritual therapy sessions, Hubbard's rules also made keeping the
> > > patient's statements about incidents, in writing, is a boon for
> > > researchers to find what Hubbard's life and past lives were all about.
> > > The answers might just be in Hubbard's therapy session folders, which
> > > Hubbard's rules said that is where that information was to be kept.
> > > The men and women who were Hubbard's therapists, those are the people
> > > to ask these questions, and I think for history's sake, that those men
> > > and women with access to Hubbard's sessions' records, should write
> > > their information for release AFTER they die.
> > > I think it is worth knowing.
> > > All this said, I heard from some of the women familiar with the
> > > messengers who lived around Hubbard, amongst them, the opinion is that
> > > because Hubbard took so much testosterone drugs and other medical
> > > drugs, that he ruined chemically himself on the sex drive front, in
> > > his later years.
> > > The truth of his orientation, that could be possibly found from
> > > studying Hubbard's case folders and getting that info from the people
> > > who dealt with his case folders or who directly gave therapy sessions
> > > to Hubbard.
> > > When people are dead, I think the truth about all details of their
> > > lives are "fair game" to be shared, and I urge people like Mayo and
> > > Ausley/Cohen to write what they witnessed, even if for release after
> > > they themselves pass away, just so history is shared accurately and
> > > honestly on these points.
> > > At the Int Base today, if one looks at Marc Headley's book, there are
> > > maps at the front and back of the book, showing the buildings at the
> > > Int Base.
> > > One building is where they keep the "case folders" of all the "blown"
> > > and deceased and "hot" ex members.
> > > Hubbard's "tech" writings say that the folders SHOULD be kept
> > > longrange, for the future lives auditing referral BACK to those case
> > > folders, when a person "returns" in a future life, where the person
> > > claims to have been "such and such" a person in their past life.
> > > Hubbard in church scriptures has given a tiny amount of administrative
> > > directions to how to deal with people "coming back" in their future
> > > lives, and claiming they have achieved in their past lives certain
> > > case statuses.
> > > Scientology's "case" focus, to me, is one of the most heavily UN
> > > focused upon points in all of the recent books on Scientology.
> > > It's a whole huge zone of discussion and truly, the "case" therapy
> > > activities of Scientology ARE the guts of Scientology!
> > > Thanks for your years of writing on alt.relgion.scientology Skip, and
> > > for being so communicative and "reactive!"
> > The only Hubbard life I'm concerned with was the LRH one, Chuck. I
> > can't imagine one more insane. I never thought much of David Mayo when
> > he was around, and Paulette Ausley I loathe from everything I've heard
> > of her. I don't expect either of those two former slavish devotees of
> > Hubbard to do anything worthwhile to help completely end the
> > abomination called $cientology.
> > I told $cientology a long time ago they could burn my folders in front
> > of me, I'd like to laugh watching them do it.
> > There is NO VALUE in those pieces of paper other than documentation of
> > the mental masturbation called auditing, and anyone who holds onto a
> > belief it has any value is delusional.
> Hey Skip,
> Fyodor Dostoyevsky would have had fun with the RPF as a subject!
> I'm listening to
