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neil c

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Feb 19, 2008, 3:22:30 PM2/19/08
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Emme wrote:

It's been a long time since I've thought about my time in the Sea Org.
It was a long time ago. I was in from 1976-1981 in PAC, and was on the
EPF when the Complex was purchased. [you all seem to call it Big Blue.
It wasn't blue when we moved in. We called it the Complex.] I served
on one of the ACTION missions during that time after I graduated the
EPF.

Anyway, it's a been a long time. And as fate would have it, I was able
to put the memories behind me and move on with a pretty good life.
Until recently, when news about Scientology seemed to fill the
airwaves and the allegedly good Celebrity PR triggered something and
many memories.

I say triggered in a good way BTW, not in the restimulated kind of
way. I heard what Tom Cruise and others have to say and in the
beginning I just shook my head and dismissed them as pawns, being used
by the church. Celebs always were given an illusion of believe in,
while the rest of us dealt with the reality of Scientology. I've never
given them much credibility, even when I was an SO member. They were
and are PR pawns.

But, my curiosity was piqued with all the news coverage, and I read an
article here and there, and finally came across the ANDRE TABAYOYON
Affidavit, along with Jesse's. Then a lot of memories came back. Jesse
Price was on the EPF with me and Andre was on the RPF at the time.
actually the EPF I was on was quite large and had a lot of not famous
or infamous members. John Nelson, Janadair Hockaday [Swanson] etc, all
came from that EPF. Reading here and other places about people I knew
and worked with has been an interesting revelation about then and
where I am now.

I don't want to give my real life information, not because I'm afraid
of the church. I've been gone a long time and completely under their
radar. I wasn't very important in the scheme of things, although I saw
a lot--know a lot. I just don't put my real life info on the Internet
-- ever.

But, when I found this site, I did want to join. I'm not going to
write out pages and pages of my experiences in PAC. Although I sure
could. The stories about the food, berthing, working condition, ethics
conditions, etc, are all true. I was on the EPF when the Wayne Marple
PAC mission RPF'ed so many in [1976 I think] PAC and around for the
Rock Slam purge when even more were RPF'ed. So many of the EPF were
RPF'ed on the spot for List on RS's. Janadair, Jesse, were but two I
remember by name. I also remember when she came off the RPF and went
to CMO Int. Interesting times that.

I remember how frightened we all were that somehow we'd all be RPF'ed.
What I came to understand quickly was that mostly, PAC needed cheap
labor for Reno's and the easiest way to get it was to RPF people. It
wasn't difficult to see that the Complex needed reno crews, and then
suddenly there is an RPF double the size it usually was. I can add two
and two, but even adding two and two didn't matter. Anyone could have
ended up on the RPF during that time. It was a real witch hunt and
List One was the topic of conversation, in whispered tones, ALL the
time while I was doing the EPF.

Anyway, there's lot's more, but too involved to come out in one entry.
I'm glad to be here, and want to thank the owners for allowing me to
participate. I hope to get to know you all better and vice versa.


http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=256

Gerry Armstrong

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Feb 19, 2008, 3:37:53 PM2/19/08
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Prince

Hi. I was an Int Staffer in the LRH PR Bu Int, but garrisoned (pun
intended) at the Cedars Complex in 1980 and '81. Maybe we met.

I also was the RPF Bosun at Flag in 1976 and '77 during the L-1 R/S
purge, so have a decent memory of that wave of terror.

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Feb 19, 2008, 4:17:03 PM2/19/08
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Good to read this. Brought back some memories about the late 70's
early 80's in LA. I alway remembered the building being called the
COMPLEX, sometimes referred to by public as the or PAC COMPLEX. I'm
not sure when it was painted the darker blue but I believe it was
around the time the LRH Author Services took over part of the space.

Even though it quite a few years after 1976, I was on the EPF with
RPF'ers out there when they were renovating the garage across the
street and demolitioning & re-constructing the Hollywood testing
center. There were hundreds on the RPF, which I did not understand at
all about at the time. We was slave labor, for sure.

Mary


Skipper

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Feb 19, 2008, 4:29:09 PM2/19/08
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In article
<bb5466b6-ac5e-42cd...@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Out_Of_The_Dark <xscilen...@yahoo.com> wrote:

How many of you signed illegal documents when you routed off saying
that if you ever mentioned anything that went on there you'd have to
pay $50,000 to the cult?

(I'm not asking you, Mary, you lying piece of crap who accused me of
murder when you first showed up here and never apologized.)

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Feb 19, 2008, 6:38:05 PM2/19/08
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On Feb 19, 4:29 pm, Skipper <dadwri...@gmail.not> wrote:
> In article
> <bb5466b6-ac5e-42cd-a3a9-fca59c5c6...@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> murder when you first showed up here and never apologized.)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

hahaha! I owe you no apology. I never said that. Prove it!

And why are you replying to my comment, you lying attention whore?

Skipper

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Feb 19, 2008, 6:53:28 PM2/19/08
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In article
<91b8e04e-ef0b-4f4e...@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Out_Of_The_Dark <xscilen...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You know what you did. Soon as you showed up you went on an attack
about me regarding Laura Hippe. Go ahead, deny it. You probably got
embarrassed and went back in Google archives and erased your original,
but my reply isn't erased. Anyone who wants to find it, can.

Still a desperate person, aren't you? Projecting as usual.

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