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The Maquis

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Nov 17, 2008, 10:11:33 AM11/17/08
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Duignan is reported to be "furious and dismayed" at Scientology's
attempts to censor his work, but "not at all surprised given the
Church's record on freedom of expression".

While "The Complex" remains unpublished in the UK, it may be bought from
the bookstore Eason in Ireland.[7]

The book's publisher in Ireland, Merlin Publishing, can be contacted
through their website[8] or by phone (3531-4535866) "

http://alaskareport.com/news1108/x61764_scientology.htm
Church of Scientology Prevents Sale of Critic's Book in the UK
November 16, 2008

British bookstores, and the British arm of the online retail site
Amazon, have been forced to pull the sale of a new book critical of the
Church of Scientology "for legal reasons", according to an email sent by
Amazon to customers who have ordered the book. A new exposé by former
Irish Scientologist, John Duignan, titled "The Complex: An Insider
Exposes the Covert World of the Church of Scientology" (ISBN#
1903582849) has recently been released in Ireland, and garnered much
press coverage there and in the UK, including The Sun[1] and The Irish
Mail on Sunday[2].

Duignan, who joined Scientology in 1985 and quit in 2006, writes of his
experience in Scientology's elite Sea Organization, and details the
conditioning that made him prepared to kill on behalf of the cult that
famously claims actor Tom Cruise as one of its members. During Duignan's
21 years in Scientology, he was subjected to harsh indoctrination
tactics, paid less than $50 a week for 40 hours of work, and witnessed
the 'Rehabilitation Project Force', the Scientology organisation's
network of forced-labour detention centres.[3]

The Scientology organisation has a lengthy track record of litigation
and censorship. Earlier this year, the Scientology organisation
threatened to sue online magazine Gawker for posting an embarrassing
video of Tom Cruise extolling the virtues of Scientology.[4] In 2006,
Tom Cruise prevented the airing of a rerun of the "South Park" episode,
"Trapped In The Closet," which poked fun at the actor and
Scientology.[5] Journalist Paulette Cooper was subject to a similar
campaign of intimidation. Cooper wrote a critical book, "The Scandal of
Scientology", in 1971. Cooper proceeded to face harassment by the
Scientology organisation, and was even framed for bomb threats by the
organisation itself, through a campaign Scientology called "Operation
Freakout."[6]

Duignan is reported to be "furious and dismayed" at Scientology's
attempts to censor his work, but "not at all surprised given the
Church's record on freedom of expression".

While "The Complex" remains unpublished in the UK, it may be bought from
the bookstore Eason in Ireland.[7]

The book's publisher in Ireland, Merlin Publishing, can be contacted
through their website[8] or by phone (3531-4535866)

References:

1.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/real_life/article1881317.ece
2.
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/602259-post1/
3.
http://www.orato.com/current-events/2008/01/29/scientology-039-s-fanatical-military
4.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/business/media/28cruise.html
5.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/19/south_park_axed/
6.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/06/writer-i-was-stalked-by-scientologists.php
7.
http://www.eason.ie/look/9781903582848/Complex/John-Duignan
8.
http://www.merlinwolfhound.com

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http://forums.whyweprotest.net/12-current-projects/operation-fiasco-john-duignan-asks-release-hounds-31758/

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Anonynamefag
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[3 Days Ago]

Current Objective:
Gather media contacts and spread the press release.

AS QUOTED BY JOHN:

Hi ya,

in simple terms: yes.

I just sent this to Lovinglife:

"Hi Larry,

We are now moving into full press mode, please tell tell thaem that a
letter was sent to me, Merlin and my co author from a legal firm in
England representing one person named in the book, it indicated that the
context was defamatory. The letter was written in scientologoese, it was
sloppy and contained factual inaccuracies. Our legal team has replied in
the strongest possible terms. We sent the reply also in
Scientologese.... Now with Tom Cruise popping over to Amazon..... Lets
go mad, what?

John"

You can state that right now I am furious and dismayed, but not at all
suprised given the Church's record on freedom of expression.

Do you have enough material?

J. ____ "

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Hartley Patterson

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Nov 17, 2008, 11:11:06 AM11/17/08
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Basque_beret@Maquis_de_l'Ain.com quoted:

> We are now moving into full press mode, please tell tell thaem that a
> letter was sent to me, Merlin and my co author from a legal firm in
> England representing one person named in the book, it indicated that the
> context was defamatory. The letter was written in scientologoese, it was
> sloppy and contained factual inaccuracies. Our legal team has replied in
> the strongest possible terms.

It does seem extraordinary given the bad publicity dumped on such people
as Google and Amazon.com by the Internet over Scientology that UK
booksellers should act in this way. One letter from a bunch of known
compulsive liars and they cave in without regard to the damage they will
do to their reputations.

--
Hartley Patterson
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/
http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com

Eldon

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Nov 17, 2008, 12:30:59 PM11/17/08
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On Nov 17, 5:11 pm, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

> Basque_beret@Maquis_de_l'Ain.com quoted:
>
> > We are now moving into full press mode, please tell tell thaem that a
> > letter was sent to me, Merlin and my co author from a legal firm in
> > England representing one person named in the book, it indicated that the
> > context was defamatory. The letter was written in scientologoese, it was
> > sloppy and contained factual inaccuracies. Our legal team has replied in
> > the strongest possible terms.
>
> It does seem extraordinary given the bad publicity dumped on such people
> as Google and Amazon.com by the Internet over Scientology that UK
> booksellers should act in this way. One letter from a bunch of known
> compulsive liars and they cave in without regard to the damage they will
> do to their reputations.

It seems extraordinary to me that given past experiences, Scientology
is simply unable to ignore the publication of this book. All they're
going to do ultimately is give it publicity and help sell more copies
while simultaneously causing further damage to their reputation -- if
there's any possibility of making it worse. They just can't stop
attacking even when it's obviously self-destructive.
>
> --
> Hartley Pattersonhttp://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com

xenufrance

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Nov 17, 2008, 12:33:39 PM11/17/08
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"Hartley Patterson" <hpt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk> a écrit dans le message
de news: MPG.238ba7f46...@news.thundernews.com...

> Basque_beret@Maquis_de_l'Ain.com quoted:
>
>> We are now moving into full press mode, please tell tell thaem that a
>> letter was sent to me, Merlin and my co author from a legal firm in
>> England representing one person named in the book, it indicated that the
>> context was defamatory. The letter was written in scientologoese, it was
>> sloppy and contained factual inaccuracies. Our legal team has replied in
>> the strongest possible terms.
>
> It does seem extraordinary given the bad publicity dumped on such people
> as Google and Amazon.com by the Internet over Scientology that UK
> booksellers should act in this way. One letter from a bunch of known
> compulsive liars and they cave in without regard to the damage they will
> do to their reputations.
>

Problem; the editor can't be contacted either there: here is what its site
says when asked about a Duignan:

"Advanced search
No pages were found containing duignan"

Eldon

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Nov 17, 2008, 1:54:50 PM11/17/08
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On Nov 17, 6:33 pm, "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
> "Hartley Patterson" <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk> a écrit dans le message
> denews: MPG.238ba7f46ac46fde98a__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z...@news.thundernews.com...

>
> > Basque_beret@Maquis_de_l'Ain.com quoted:
>
> >> We are now moving into full press mode, please tell tell thaem that a
> >> letter was sent to me, Merlin and my co author from a legal firm in
> >> England representing one person named in the book, it indicated that the
> >> context was defamatory. The letter was written in scientologoese, it was
> >> sloppy and contained factual inaccuracies. Our legal team has replied in
> >> the strongest possible terms.
>
> > It does seem extraordinary given the bad publicity dumped on such people
> > as Google and Amazon.com by the Internet over Scientology that UK
> > booksellers should act in this way. One letter from a bunch of known
> > compulsive liars and they cave in without regard to the damage they will
> > do to their reputations.
>
> Problem; the editor can't be contacted either there: here is what its site
> says when asked about a Duignan:
>
> "Advanced search
> No pages were found containing duignan"

Yes, I checked that a week ago and sent them an e-mail. Got no reply.

John

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Nov 17, 2008, 5:22:14 PM11/17/08
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"The Maquis" <Basque_beret@Maquis_de_l'Ain.com> wrote in message
news:aiu2i4p8bb5f8c268...@4ax.com...


You know what would have been perfect for this book? If the author had been
one of the SO to work on the field of flowers planted for Tom Cruise and
Nichole Kidman at Gold Base.

Hartley Patterson

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Nov 17, 2008, 8:04:29 PM11/17/08
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Eldo...@aol.com:

> > Problem; the editor can't be contacted either there: here is what its site
> > says when asked about a Duignan:
> >
> > "Advanced search
> > No pages were found containing duignan"
>
> Yes, I checked that a week ago and sent them an e-mail. Got no reply.

IIRC Merlin Press can't sell the book direct for contractual reasons, but
Irish booksellers can and are doing so. Libel suits against them would
have to be in Ireland.

aries0...@gmail.com

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Nov 18, 2008, 2:15:08 AM11/18/08
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I hope this all gets straightened out soon. There are a lot of anons
in my city itching to get their hands on the Complex.

Tralfamador

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Nov 18, 2008, 2:55:54 AM11/18/08
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The Maquis wrote:
> snip>
> Duignan is reported to be "furious and dismayed" at Scientology's
> attempts to censor his work, but "not at all surprised given the
> Church's record on freedom of expression".
>
> http://alaskareport.com/news1108/x61764_scientology.htm
> Church of Scientology Prevents Sale of Critic's Book in the UK
> November 16, 2008
>

Digg it here...

http://digg.com/educational/Church_of_Scientology_Prevents_Sale_of_Critic_s_Book_in_UK


Hartley Patterson

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Nov 18, 2008, 5:57:23 AM11/18/08
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aries0...@gmail.com:

> I hope this all gets straightened out soon. There are a lot of anons
> in my city itching to get their hands on the Complex.

You can order the book from Ireland, and Amazon.com are still claiming
they will sell it in the USA as soon as they receive copies.

I gather the shore story is that the author was not even in the Church and
that it is lies throughout.

Beth

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Nov 18, 2008, 8:25:21 AM11/18/08
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On Nov 18, 5:57 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> aries0clus...@gmail.com:

>
> > I hope this all gets straightened out soon. There are a lot of anons
> > in my city itching to get their hands on the Complex.
>
> You can order the book from Ireland, and Amazon.com are still claiming
> they will sell it in the USA as soon as they receive copies.

I ordered mine from Eason over the weekend, and I got an email from
them yesterday that it had shipped.

http://www.eason.ie/look/9781903582848/Complex/John-Duignan

beth

Jens Tingleff

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Nov 21, 2008, 2:05:13 AM11/21/08
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Beth wrote:

> On Nov 18, 5:57 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:

[..]


>>
>> You can order the book from Ireland, and Amazon.com are still claiming
>> they will sell it in the USA as soon as they receive copies.
>
> I ordered mine from Eason over the weekend, and I got an email from
> them yesterday that it had shipped.
>
> http://www.eason.ie/look/9781903582848/Complex/John-Duignan
>

I ordered mine a few days ago ant a mail today that it's been shipped.

Best Regards

Jens

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Eldon

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Nov 21, 2008, 8:25:03 AM11/21/08
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On Nov 21, 8:05 am, Jens Tingleff <jens_tingl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
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> Beth wrote:
> > On Nov 18, 5:57 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> [..]
>
> >> You can order the book from Ireland, and Amazon.com are still claiming
> >> they will sell it in the USA as soon as they receive copies.
>
> > I ordered mine from Eason over the weekend, and I got an email from
> > them yesterday that it had shipped.
>
> >http://www.eason.ie/look/9781903582848/Complex/John-Duignan
>
> I ordered mine a few days ago ant a mail today that it's been shipped.

And I assume you mean shipped to England, right? If Eason will ship to
the UK, maybe John should send out some press releases to the Brit
media.

>
> Best Regards
>
> Jens
>
> - --

> Key ID 0x09723C12, jenst...@tingleff.org

Eldon

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Nov 21, 2008, 8:36:32 AM11/21/08
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On Nov 21, 2:25 pm, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 8:05 am, Jens Tingleff <jens_tingl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> > Beth wrote:
> > > On Nov 18, 5:57 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > [..]
>
> > >> You can order the book from Ireland, and Amazon.com are still claiming
> > >> they will sell it in the USA as soon as they receive copies.
>
> > > I ordered mine from Eason over the weekend, and I got an email from
> > > them yesterday that it had shipped.
>
> > >http://www.eason.ie/look/9781903582848/Complex/John-Duignan
>
> > I ordered mine a few days ago ant a mail today that it's been shipped.
>
> And I assume you mean shipped to England, right? If Eason will ship to
> the UK, maybe John should send out some press releases to the Brit
> media.

P.S. I was about to post a review at Amazon.co.uk saying how to order
the book, but according to them, it doesn't even exist:

Your search "John Duignan The Complex" did not match any products.

I smell intimidation.

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