Legal definition of fucking kook
Fredric L. Rice
cra·zy (krł“z¶) adj. cra·zi·er, cra·zi·est. 1. Affected with madness;
insane. 2. Informal. Departing from proportion or moderation, especially:
a. Possessed by enthusiasm or excitement. b. Immoderately fond; infatuated.
c. Intensely involved or preoccupied. d. Foolish or impractical; senseless.
--cra·zy n., pl. cra·zies. One who is or appears insane. --idiom. like
crazy. Informal. To an exceeding degree. --cra“zi·ly adv. --cra“zi·ness n.
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Zorrosblade........Z
Rice) wrote:
>kook (k›k) n. Slang. A person regarded as strange, eccentric, or crazy.
> 2. Informal. Departing from proportion or moderation, especially:
>a. Possessed by enthusiasm or excitement. b. Immoderately fond; infatuated.
a short 'who's who' list by definition:
1 ) Beethoven
2 ) Mozart
3 ) Glen Gould
4 ) Thelonius Monk
5 ) Miles Davis
6 ) Franz Kafka
7 ) Jerzy Kozinski
8 ) Nikos Kazantzakis
9 ) Vincent Van Gogh
10) Nico (Velvet underground)
11) Picasso
12) Oscar Levant
13) Bobbie Fischer
14) Brian Wilson
15) John Huston
16) Nikola Tesla
17) Salvador Dali
18) Dialectic Zinjifarianism from the 1920's, giving rise to the arts
and crafts movement. Leading Zinjifarianists from arts and crafts
include; William D Morgan; (designer of pottery tiles) Christopher
Whall (stained glass works) and Alexander Fischer (leading enameler
of his day)
Essential reading for Kooks: <E tickets please, and fasten your seat
belts>
http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/bio-creative.html
"There is a link between madness and creativity. Everyone knows
examples of creative people (Nietzsche, Van Gogh, etc.) who later went
crazy, and crazy people who produce amazing creative works as part of
their therapy. (Mental health professionals who have realized this
often display the artwork of their psychotic patients, which is of
profound depth and quality.) Much art (Hieronymous Bosch, surrealism,
Dadaism, Edvard Munch, and other parts of the avant-garde) seems to be
the work of madmen."
"This premise has been criticized by Rothenberg and others who believe
that creative people are very stable and normal, although they may
occasionally use unusual modes of thinking (which he calls
'translogical' rather than 'irrational.') Others propose the
deprivation/compensation hypothesis: the 'suffering/starving' artist
creates to compensate for his lack and suffering through the act of
creation. While such suffering is usually socioeconomic, it may also
be a result of illness, one kind of which could be mental illness.
From this point of view, mental illness is only indirectly connected
to creative ability; other forms of illness (Beethoven's deafness,
Frieda Kahlo's pain, etc.) are impetuses as well."
"Creativity is a special form of madness. According to the theory,
creativity is either a strategy or form of sublimation to deal with
madness, or a modified form of madness which is benign. This idea is
expressed by C.G. Jung when he tells James Joyce about his sister in a
mental asylum: "She has drowned in the same river from which you draw
your sustenance."
Z:
I disagree that James Joyce "drew his sustenance" from the same
"river" Jungs sister went mad from. Joyce wrote Ulysses, which makes
him a bona fide Kook. No doubt about it.. <my kind of guy>
"R.D. Laing has often taken an opposite position, which is that
madness is merely creativity thwarted by society. From the viewpoint
of Laing, Thomas Szasz, and Foucault, "madness" is a label created by
society in order to imprison its visionaries."
"It is "manufactured," often to lock up critics of repressive regimes,
because creative people can be dangerous to bureaucratic control."
Z:
Damn straight Bubba, as long as it isn't Barbara Streisand we're
talking about.
"The next assumption of the theory is that madness is the result of
defective brains: brains which have unusual EEG readings, an
unbalanced neurochemistry, abnormal brain structures, or unsual
hemisphere lateralization."
Z:
Which explains Sponge-barb earplants via Nazi tele control, through
radio devices still existing in U boat docks located in north sea
coastal caverns. Admiral Doenitz is still alive and leading the U boat
north-sea-earplant campaign, code named; "Operation Thunder Ears".
"The critiques of this step in the theory are numerous. It excludes
non-biological, that is, social (family/developmental, socioeconomic,
etc.) and personal (i.e. life crises, shock, trauma, etc.) factors in
the genesis of psychopathology. It also excludes the possibility that
the manifestation and progress of madness may be shaped by cultural
factors, as well as its recognition and description by the culture in
which it occurs. But, as psychology has moved from psychoanalytic to
biochemical explanations of disorders, this is not uncharacteristic
for the field. Of course, the problem here is also whether madness is
really a form of sickness; according to C.G. Jung, it is a declaration
of the search for the Self and the beginning of psychic individuation:
the role of analyst is as guide, not therapist."
Z:
Huhhh????? What the hell was that all about? Lawrence probably knows.
Neuropathology is inherited:
"According to this premise, such abnormal brains are the results of
peculiar genes: they are genetically determined and inheritable.
Needless to say, multiple critiques are possible here as well.
Neuropathology, which is common, can result from all sorts of brain
trauma: concussions, infectious diseases, toxins in the environment
(such as aluminum, which causes Parkinsons'), and conditions in the
womb. Further, all sorts of environmental factors - nutrition, drug
use, atrophy - can affect the physiology of the brain. These must be
excluded in order to have a purely genetic explanation for
neuropathology."
**
"Steps are good, too many steps are bad. Elevators are better."
-- Mark Garcia
"My good friend Aleister Crowley...The Beast"
--Ronny
"I read ARS 24/7. I never sleep. I can't. Too exciting."
--Z-blade
ida j. camburn
>
ZorroB Whew -- I read that list and heaved a sigh of relief! Had you
passed
it around my neighborhood, my name might have been added. I often
hear comments
"you nuts, woman?" "Give it up". Thanks for your posts--I read every
one and wait for the next one knowing it will be as interesting as the
last.
Ida Camburn
Zorrosblade........Z
Thanks Ida. Sending a wink from afar for the kind words ;-) You've got
grit lady, like most of your generation. Reminds me that my mother
used to be a 'rosey the riveter' at Boeing during WW2. Her job was
checking/inspecting flaps on the bombers before roll out. She
occasionally had the job of taxiing them onto the field as well. She
always lit up when recalling her Boeing days, with the thrill of the
throttle under her hand. But you know, I look at her as just another
of her generation; the best. The right stuff...
http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/core/pics/0255/img0044.jpg
Z-blades 'glorious' generation for comparisons (sick jab)
http://members.rogers.com/darlenescreations/hippies.jpg
Z-blade ;-)
BarbaraSchwarz
> kook (k?k) n. Slang. A person regarded as strange, eccentric, or crazy.
>
> cra·zy (krł?z¶) adj. cra·zi·er, cra·zi·est. 1. Affected with madness;
> a. Possessed by enthusiasm or excitement. b. Immoderately fond; infatuated.
>
> c. Intensely involved or preoccupied. d. Foolish or impractical; senseless.
>
> --cra·zy n., pl. cra·zies. One who is or appears insane. --idiom. like
>
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> about my mother! -- Scientology's International President (Audio
> files of this nutter at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice
That is not any legal definition. If I would be you, Frederic Rice, I
would look up the definition of "legal". Your definition is just out
of a regular dictionary, not even the best.
There is probably no legal definition of "kook", but the legal
definition about "insanity" seem to be pretty the same all over the
country. That means insanity is defined on how a person is a danger to
himself or others.
According to the threats against President Bush and others that you
made, Frederic Rice, you could fall under the legal definition. I
wonder that the CIA has not yet arrested you, but I think it could
happen soon.
Barbara Schwarz
ida j. camburn
Mr. Z-- Thanks for the pic. WE all thought we should sign up for a
job that would help with the war effort. I opted for North American
Aviation in L. A.
I was there a short time until they sent me to IBM college. I had
worked in the cost dept. and at IBM I learned to key-punch along with
other machines. Not a job one would want for a career. I believe NAA
was one of the first to take advantage of the computer systems. What
we have now on a disc covered an entire wall. The key-punch was
numerical only so no more than a ten key adder.
Served the purpose tho as the end result was to know the cost of a
fighter plane down to the penny. We had it easy compared to the
husbands and brothers we had over-seas and like your mother--I am
thankful for the experience.
Ida Camburn
The Raven
<a6bc00a0.03053...@posting.google.com>
> According to the threats against President Bush and others that you
> made, Frederic Rice, you could fall under the legal definition. I
> wonder that the CIA has not yet arrested you, but I think it could
> happen soon.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
>
confusing them with the FBI, or Secret Service.
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Watch here for new additions to my sigfile
Zinj
BarbaraSc...@hotmail.com says...
<snip>
> There is probably no legal definition of "kook", but the legal
> definition about "insanity" seem to be pretty the same all over the
> country. That means insanity is defined on how a person is a danger to
> himself or others.
>
<snip>
> Barbara Schwarz
No, that sounds more like the criteria used in judging when
involuntary commitment or other treatment can or should be
invoked.
For legal purposes, 'sane' generally refers to whether a person
can 'tell right from wrong', differently stated in different
juristictions.
By that measure, all Scientologists are 'insane' thanks to
training in Hubbardian 'ethics'.
Zinj
--
Svengali. You're talking about hypnotism and so on- boom - LRH
Zinj
Dave) says...
> On Fri, 30 May 2003 12:34:37 -0700, Zinj <zinj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <a6bc00a0.03053...@posting.google.com>,
> > BarbaraSc...@hotmail.com says...
<snip>
> >> but the legal
> > > definition about "insanity" seem to be pretty the same all over the
> > > country. That means insanity is defined on how a person is a danger to
> > > himself or others.
>
> > <snip>
>
> > No, that sounds more like the criteria used in judging when
> > involuntary commitment or other treatment can or should be
> > invoked.
> >
> > For legal purposes, 'sane' generally refers to whether a person
> > can 'tell right from wrong', differently stated in different
> > juristictions.
> >
> > By that measure, all Scientologists are 'insane' thanks to
> > training in Hubbardian 'ethics'.
>
> Larry Niven, in "Ringworld," suggested that sanity was "statistical."
> Nexus said "The herd is always sane." He implied that sanity was
> defined as excessive deviation from the norm. George Orwell, in
> "1984," did the same.
>
> I think both are wrong: we can observe insanity by the wide deviation
> from average behavior (not to a very high confidence level). That
> deviation still doesn't define insanity. How great must the deviation
> be, before insanity applies?
Well, we're talking 'legal' definitions here, and they rarely
have much to do with real-world usage.
Like 'religion', however, the words 'sane' and 'insane' are used
so differently in different contexts as to be meaningless in
'general'.
In at least one context, I might say that 'insanity' was
'attempting to play pool using quantum mecanics' :)
In another more applicable case, I might define it as 'repeatedly
attempting to achieve an effect from an action that provably does
not cause it.'
Scientology footbullets, or for that matter, Scientology in
general are good examples of that. Taking courses *still* hasn't
resulted in the predicted results, yet Scientologists continue to
take them. What's *that* sound like? :)
In the same vein, 'critic handling' as per Hubbard has *not*
resulted in the predicted end of criticism. Scientology
'expansion' and dissem methods have *not* resulted in a 'clear
planet', nor have the 'psychs' been eliminated. Yet they continue
to apply the same methods because they *may* not learn from
mistakes.
(Larry (along with Damon Knight) also came up with the pithy if
uncharitable 'Look at it as evolution in action')
Psycho-Dave
> In article <a6bc00a0.03053...@posting.google.com>,
> BarbaraSc...@hotmail.com says...
> <snip>
>> There is probably no legal definition of "kook",
A few years ago I posted to a.r.s. a judicial decision that ruled upon
the use of the word "psycho" in an anti-defamation case. The judge
found it to be "generic" and therefore not defamation. Someone with
better GOOGLE skills than I could probably find it.
>> but the legal
> > definition about "insanity" seem to be pretty the same all over the
> > country. That means insanity is defined on how a person is a danger to
> > himself or others.
> <snip>
> No, that sounds more like the criteria used in judging when
> involuntary commitment or other treatment can or should be
> invoked.
>
> For legal purposes, 'sane' generally refers to whether a person
> can 'tell right from wrong', differently stated in different
> juristictions.
>
> By that measure, all Scientologists are 'insane' thanks to
> training in Hubbardian 'ethics'.
Larry Niven, in "Ringworld," suggested that sanity was "statistical."
Nexus said "The herd is always sane." He implied that sanity was
defined as excessive deviation from the norm. George Orwell, in
"1984," did the same.
I think both are wrong: we can observe insanity by the wide deviation
from average behavior (not to a very high confidence level). That
deviation still doesn't define insanity. How great must the deviation
be, before insanity applies?
> Zinj
> --
> Svengali. You're talking about hypnotism and so on- boom - LRH
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exscio
>
> There is probably no legal definition of "kook", but the legal
> definition about "insanity" seem to be pretty the same all over the
> country. That means insanity is defined on how a person is a danger to
> himself or others.
>
> According to the threats against President Bush and others that you
> made, Frederic Rice, you could fall under the legal definition. I
> wonder that the CIA has not yet arrested you, but I think it could
> happen soon.
If the chiropractors don't get him first. You don't wanna mess with the
Chiropractic Alliance. Those guys have a secret section devoted to
"taking out" sceptics and anti-chiros. They practice "black chiropracty"
and can literally _give you_ subluxations where you didn't have them
before and can even increase spinal curvature.
BarbaraSchwarz
If that would be the legal definition, "being able telling right from
wrong", Joe Lynn, you could be also a mental health patient. The legal
definition to put somebody away, is in most states, if not all, is
when the person is evidently a danger to others or herself.
Barbara Schwarz
BarbaraSchwarz
> On Fri, 30 May 2003 12:34:37 -0700, Zinj <zinj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <a6bc00a0.03053...@posting.google.com>,
> > BarbaraSc...@hotmail.com says...
> > <snip>
>
> >> There is probably no legal definition of "kook",
>
> A few years ago I posted to a.r.s. a judicial decision that ruled upon
> the use of the word "psycho" in an anti-defamation case. The judge
> found it to be "generic" and therefore not defamation. Someone with
> better GOOGLE skills than I could probably find it.
Impartial judges and jury look behind the malice of such statement. If
the statement is made with malice, it's defamation and that case you
cited, if it indeed exist, might not save your unlawful behind.
>
> >> but the legal
> > > definition about "insanity" seem to be pretty the same all over the
> > > country. That means insanity is defined on how a person is a danger to
> > > himself or others.
>
> > <snip>
>
> > No, that sounds more like the criteria used in judging when
> > involuntary commitment or other treatment can or should be
> > invoked.
> >
> > For legal purposes, 'sane' generally refers to whether a person
> > can 'tell right from wrong', differently stated in different
> > juristictions.
> >
> > By that measure, all Scientologists are 'insane' thanks to
> > training in Hubbardian 'ethics'.
>
> Larry Niven, in "Ringworld," suggested that sanity was "statistical."
> Nexus said "The herd is always sane." He implied that sanity was
> defined as excessive deviation from the norm. George Orwell, in
> "1984," did the same.
>
> I think both are wrong: we can observe insanity by the wide deviation
> from average behavior (not to a very high confidence level). That
> deviation still doesn't define insanity. How great must the deviation
> be, before insanity applies?
What you and everybody else should know is that you can't insult and
defame, you can't diagnoze somebody with mental illness being no
expert on the field of mental health, without that this might involve
you in litigation, and the ressponsibility hereto.
Fredric L. Rice
>fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message news:<vdb430t...@corp.supernews.com>...
>> kook (k?k) n. Slang. A person regarded as strange, eccentric, or crazy.
>> cra·zy (krł?z¶) adj. cra·zi·er, cra·zi·est. 1. Affected with madness;
>> insane. 2. Informal. Departing from proportion or moderation, especially:
>> a. Possessed by enthusiasm or excitement. b. Immoderately fond; infatuated.
>> c. Intensely involved or preoccupied. d. Foolish or impractical; senseless.
>> --cra·zy n., pl. cra·zies. One who is or appears insane. --idiom. like
>> crazy. Informal. To an exceeding degree. --cra?zi·ly adv. --cra?zi·ness n.
> If I would be you, Frederic Rice
If you were I you wouldn't be insane.