Hubbard and the Creation of Satanic Ability
Lisa Ruby
>Process "R2-45" and "Creation of Human Ability":
>The book is titled "Creation of Human Ability" but contains a process
>called "R2-45" which consists of shooting someone with a .45 caliber pistol,
>hence the name "R2-45". L. Ron Hubbard goes on to explain that this is an
>effective means of exteriorization but it's use is frowned upon by this
>society at this time. How does taking a .45 caliber pistol and shooting a
>human being with it create human ability? If you take a .45 caliber pistol
>and shoot a human being with it, how have you made that human being more able
>or enhanced that human being's abilities?
Murder, which was advocated by L. Ron Hubbard, creates satanic ability.
Since Satan came to steal, kill and destroy (John 10:10), those who
do these things are rewarded with enhanced satanic ability.
Those who knowingly live on sites of human sacrifice are seeking to
enhance their satanic standing--and the satanic rank of the "religious"
organization they belong to.
Lisa Ruby
http://libertytothecaptives.net/better_title_hubbards_book.html
Kim Palmer
this world you cannot connect to some stupid conspiracy theory or
another? Seen any black helicopters lately?
Kim P
SirLagsALot
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SHHHH!!!!! they are silently hovering over my house, they might hear you.
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Phil Scott
Oh please. Lisa R was mentioning L Rong Hubbards
known satanist associations and discussing that...its all a
matter of record and no shortages of books. You wish to
spin that as 'conspiracy theory'? As if there were never
any of those at that? What do you think the entire cult of
scientology fraud is about if its not a bunch of criminal
culties conspiring to do a wide range of frauds...as with Reed
Slatkin, and for instance Paullette Cooper op? Hiring PI's
and framing her with fake death threat letters... whats that?
duhhh
You can to better than to try to spin that hard core
established factual, FBI documented evidence Kim P
Phil Scott
>
> Kim P
Tom Lane
I joined when I was 20.
I am now 53.
Fye on thee Satan.
"Lisa Ruby" <Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote in message
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Lisa Ruby
>I agree with Lisa.
>I joined when I was 20.
>I am now 53.
>Fye on thee Satan.
Thank you for your post, Tom. I have read some of your other posts and
I am deeply touched--especially when I learned that you were
disconnected from your children.
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
boxingnut
<Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote:
Oh shit! You're another religious fanatic. Great. One more nut to
add to the mix here.
Boxingnut
Michael Reuss
>> Truth Seeker wrote:
>> The [Scientology] book is titled "Creation of Human Ability" but contains a process
>> called "R2-45" which consists of shooting someone with a .45 caliber pistol
>> hence the name "R2-45".
"R2-45" calls for Scientologists to shoot Scientology's enemies twice in
the head, with a .45 caliber pistol.
The 'R' stands for "Routine", the '2' stands for shooting the enemy
twice, and the 45 stands for the .45 caliber handgun.
Later, after it was more broadly disseminated that Hubbard had written
about R2-45, many Scientologists trotted out the shore story that
Hubbard had only been joking when he wrote R2-45.
I think those Scientologists are lying to cover up yet another turd
disgorged from the sphincter of LRH's shithead. But even if Hubbard had
been joking, it would have been a very bad joke. It would have been
highly reckless of Hubbard to joke about such a thing, given that his
moods were highly erratic, and his disciples were prone to trying to
please him, and very worried about displeasing him.
>> L. Ron Hubbard goes on to explain that this is an
>> effective means of exteriorization but it's use is frowned upon by this
>> society at this time. How does taking a .45 caliber pistol and shooting a
>> human being with it create human ability? If you take a .45 caliber pistol
>> and shoot a human being with it, how have you made that human being more able
>> or enhanced that human being's abilities?
In the Scientology world, the head is just a meat brain. You can shoot
the bullets into the head, and not even hit the immortal human Thetan.
This is the dangerous side of a too-strong belief in human beings as
spirits.
The Catholic Church went through a phase like this, and justified the
murdering and torturing of perhaps 100s of thousands of people during
the Inquisition. And the Priests and Bishops justified this by saying
that if they tortured and murdered an occasional innocent (they didn't
believe they were wrong) that was still okay because the person's
immortal soul would go to heaven for all eternity. And for those who
were truly demon-possessed, the Priests believed that by killing the
demon-infested body, they were actually saving the immortal soul. Now,
of course, with the help of science and reason, we understand about
Ergot poisoning, the likely cause of the behaviors for which people were
accused of being demon-possessed.
With a strong belief that human beings are not corporeal organisms, you
can easily start to think you can hurt bodies and brains, without ever
hurting "people." And I've noticed that Scientologists don't generally
tell the truth when they trot out their PR, and say things like "we
believe that 'people' are basically good."
When they say that, they aren't talking about human beings who are
walking around, eating, breathing, going to work, in their meat bodies.
No, the Scientologists are talking about Thetans, who merely reside
inside of meat bodies, even though they allegedly don't need them.
> Murder, which was advocated by L. Ron Hubbard, creates satanic ability.
Well, Hubbard certainly believed in satanic occultist shit, and
incorporated his occultist views into Scientology. Thetan rhymes with
Satan. Is that a coincidence?
You, apparently, believe in Satan, too. Personally, I don't see anything
in it. You have to liberally apply your imagination to see Satan, just
as you do to see Thetans.
> Since Satan came to steal, kill and destroy (John 10:10), those who
> do these things are rewarded with enhanced satanic ability.
That's fine. Just remember that there's no reliable evidence that Satan,
(as Christians define him/her/it; and despite that the definitions can
vary wildly) exists.
> Those who knowingly live on sites of human sacrifice are seeking to
> enhance their satanic standing--and the satanic rank of the "religious"
> organization they belong to.
They're BA-A-A-A-CK. Those who unknowingly live on graveyards can have
that whole poltergeist thingy happen in their child's upstairs bedroom
closet. I know.... I saw it in a movie.
Michael Reuss
Honorary Kid
Lisa Ruby
Thanks for writing such an informative post.
You wrote the following to me:
>You have to liberally apply your imagination to see Satan, just
>as you do to see Thetans.
My husband came from a family line in Russia that was devoted to
satanism for centuries... since back in the fifteen hundreds.
He turned his back on Satan (renounced him and every evil work) and
turned to Jesus Christ when he was 26.
He and I both went through a lot as he, by the power of the Lord Jesus
Christ, shed the demonic baggage that he was born with and aquired via
training with his wicked grandfather. Satan does not easily give up on
anyone--especially those who are supposed to serve him in a significant
spiritual position in the New World Order.
I cannot indulge in the luxury of pretending that Satan does not exist.
I hate Satan and his demons and am aware of many of their devices. I
will expose and oppose Satan's cruel intentions toward his own
followers as well as others to the fullest extent that I possibly can.
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
Lisa Ruby
>Don't you want the events
>in Revelation, the Second Coming of Jesus,
>and the Apocolypse to happen sooner rather than later?
It is Satan's followers who want the "man of sin" to rise to power and
the NWO takeover to begin sooner, rather than later.
My husband and I firmly believe that the holding back of the NWO is
being accomplished via the prayers of God's people. Praying against
human sacrifice has been very effective in this endeavor.
The gospel of Jesus Christl has not gone out into the entire world yet.
Many people groups have not yet been reached with the gospel of Jesus
Christ. Some will say, "So?" But this is near and dear to God's heart.
Christians in the United States are dismally unprepared to stand in the
face of persecution. They have been following the NWO plants who pose
as Christian leaders and who lie to them and prophesy "peace and
safety" even while their destruction is at the door.
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
theteabaggame
Don't be scared of the chemtrials, they're mostly water vapor.
theteabaggame
anything of my new god. Little bear is an entirely non-specific deity
and picturing it as an actual little bear his heretical (there's
already a schizm within the cult of little bear on this issue.) Little
bear loves us and watches over us although he does bugger all to
intervene. You can praise him when things go right and curse him when
things go wrong. Little bear is gonna kick that rubbish Bob's ass, the
cult of little bear is the NRM to watch.
Rev Thetanic Thlut
Kim Palmer
Ya know what - you are still only talking about a belief system and one
that you cannot prove empiracally - it is based solely on faith and as
such is no more believable than what scientology espouses to be THE truth.
You can spout all the bibe verses you want and talk about all the
anecdotal evidence you can muster but it is still, at the end of the
day, nothing more than a belief in something that is not in evidence.
Religion is merely faith in something that is unprovable.
Kim P
Kim Palmer
> Simkatu wrote:
>
>
>>Don't you want the events
>>in Revelation, the Second Coming of Jesus,
>>and the Apocolypse to happen sooner rather than later?
>
>
> It is Satan's followers who want the "man of sin" to rise to power and
> the NWO takeover to begin sooner, rather than later.
>
> My husband and I firmly believe that the holding back of the NWO is
> being accomplished via the prayers of God's people. Praying against
> human sacrifice has been very effective in this endeavor.
BOO! conspiracy conspiracy - nwo - what a load of crap - and all based
on coincidence and tenuous (at best) links between so-called facts.
>
> The gospel of Jesus Christl has not gone out into the entire world yet.
> Many people groups have not yet been reached with the gospel of Jesus
> Christ. Some will say, "So?" But this is near and dear to God's heart.
>
and so you have been able to dupe some people into believing something
that is unprovable and unsubstantiated. IN doing so you are asserting
that those who convert to your absolute truth are superior to those that
do not. How is this different that scientology or the moonies or some
other cult?
> Christians in the United States are dismally unprepared to stand in the
> face of persecution. They have been following the NWO plants who pose
> as Christian leaders and who lie to them and prophesy "peace and
> safety" even while their destruction is at the door.
>
so-called christians in the us have always demanded they come first as
they have ALL the answers and anyone who does not follow them is going
to hell - there message is the same as yours so why should anyone
believe what you spout off any more than what falwell or dobson and his
blind minions spout off?
Kim P
>
> Lisa Ruby
> http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
>
Keith Henson
<michae...@spam.this.com> wrote:
snip
>In the Scientology world, the head is just a meat brain. You can shoot
>the bullets into the head, and not even hit the immortal human Thetan.
>This is the dangerous side of a too-strong belief in human beings as
>spirits.
>
>The Catholic Church went through a phase like this, and justified the
>murdering and torturing of perhaps 100s of thousands of people during
>the Inquisition. And the Priests and Bishops justified this by saying
>that if they tortured and murdered an occasional innocent (they didn't
>believe they were wrong) that was still okay because the person's
>immortal soul would go to heaven for all eternity. And for those who
>were truly demon-possessed, the Priests believed that by killing the
>demon-infested body, they were actually saving the immortal soul. Now,
>of course, with the help of science and reason, we understand about
>Ergot poisoning, the likely cause of the behaviors for which people were
>accused of being demon-possessed.
A classic example:
" . . . . 20,000 people were slaughtered in the city of Beziers alone
after the monk in charge of the assault, when asked how to distinguish
heretics from Catholics, replied, "Kill them all, God will know his
own." Surviving Cathars then became the original targets of the
Inquisition."
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/137/14.0.html
>With a strong belief that human beings are not corporeal organisms, you
>can easily start to think you can hurt bodies and brains, without ever
>hurting "people."
snip
I have come to see modern population distinctions such as the Jews in
pre war Germany and the Tutsi in Rwanda as surrogates for "the tribe
in the next valley" in the stone age.
When a population's average perception is that of a bleak future, then
dehumanizing memes against some internal subgroup or an external group
gain in popularity.
Among our remote ancestors such memes synchronized the tribe's
warriors into a do or die attack for resources on a neighboring tribe.
I make the case that this is the origin of the terrorist problems in
the world.
Of course nothing gets a population to bond together and go into
attack mode like *being* attacked.
Scientology promotes a view of a world in a downward spiral and of
being under attack. This has the effect of activating the
psychological mechanisms that evolved long ago and for good reasons in
humans.
Keith Henson
WCB
Watch that shit! Animals like this usually turn out to be Trickster.
Someday you will find "Bob" bending you over the barrel while Little
Bear/Trickster Pulls your shirt over your head and holds you helpless.
Just thought you'd like to know what you are getting into.
--
Xenu is around and about,
mention Hubbard, Xenu pops out!
No way for the clams to stamp Xenu out,
Xenu is around and about!
Cheerful Charlie
Lisa Ruby
>Religion is merely faith in something that is unprovable.
The people who shot at my husband on more than one
occasion know that God is real because my husband
still lives. They know that we don't just believe, we know the
God of heaven who has the power to protect, to save, and to
deliver from harm not only us but anyone who will call out to Him
for His mercy.
The snipers have watched God perform miracles to protect His own.
They know God is real and yet, sadly, they hate Him.
I hope you change your mind about God and His right to rule over you
because if you don't, one day you will be convinced of your hard
speeches against
Him.
Jude 1:14
Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jude 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are
ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly
committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have
spoken against him.
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
Larry T.
Lisa:
This universe has been here for trillions of years.
The "Story of God" has been around about 2,100 of those trillions and
trillions of years.
What do you suppose happened? About 2,100 years ago people wised up?
Check your Gorilla goals.
--
Larry T.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoqz2m/scientology/
"Elvis Presley is my favorite singer."...Priscilla Presley
>
Lisa Ruby
>Ya know what - you are still only talking about a belief system and one
>that you cannot prove empiracally - it is based solely on faith and as
>such is no more believable than what scientology espouses to be THE >truth.
If the God that I serve is nothing but a "belief system" with no
substance (and no power to threaten Scientology's satanic agenda), why
are you trying to counter my posts?
If global government is not in the process of being implemented in this
country and worldwide, then why do you panic every time I mention it?
If Who I believe in and serve is not real, then what are you so worried
about?
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
Zinj
Commis...@groupmail.com says...
You know Lisa, it's like this. Most of us here believe any number of
things, but are only here because the one 'common cause' is objecting to
the abuses of the Church of Scientology and the horrific philosophy
which serves as its excuse.
Scientology Critics are atheists, christians, democrats, liberals,
whacked out 'progressives', republicans, buddhists, none-of-the-
aboveists, and probably a short list of bokononists.
The only common element for Scientology Critics is objection to some
aspect of Scientology, although there is a high rate of confluence for
those who promote freedom of Speech, which, as history has shown, is
like salt to the snail of Hubbardism.
The reasons we oppose Scientology vary immensely; some are merely good
public citizens, who see Scientology as a corrupting influence. It is.
Some are former Scientologists who know the abuses from inside, and are
exceptilally valuable, although such personal involvement leads to both
personal baggage and the kind of damage to rational thinking that
Scientology (both the 'Church' and the 'Philosophy') is famous for.
One frequent question for Scientology Critics is:
Why do you care? These guys are obviously nuts! They have about as much
likelyhood of 'taking over the world' or 'clearing the Planet' as Pinky
and The Brain.
Very true.
Another is:
Do you really think Scientology is the *worst* thing in the world? Isn't
something else 'worse' that you could object to?
Sure. Almost all of us are socially conscious about *numerous*
subjects, and involved in whatever actions we consider useful to express
that need.
So, why are we 'scientology critics'?
Maybe I can help by taking myself as an example.
I have very libertarian views, but can't be a libertarian, because I
think that it would be irresponsible for someone in the late 20th/early
21st century to refuse to have global political views, and mine tend to
see all governments as self-serving, corrupt and venal.
I have many personal opinions on political matters both past and present
and possibly future, but most of them are not really relevant to
Scientology Criticism, except a underlying objection to the kind of
deception, corruption and subversion that is *esential* to Scientology
(both the 'Church' and 'The Philosophy'.
If asked, I'd say: The nation is already fucked up enough that it can't
afford Billion Dollar UFO Cults subverting it further with corruption,
disinformation and purely whacked out stupidity with a jagged little
enema mentality.
Most 'large' issues are being addressed by known 'groups' which tend to
address *other* issues enough that I don't care to 'join' them.
It's at least one reason I wish Scientology Critics would stop trying to
glue their own pet 'issues' to 'being a Scientology Critic'.
I know well that it's not impossible to support the war in Iraq and be a
Scientology Critic. I know well that it's possible not to be a 'hard
atheist' and object to Scientology Spirituality. I do it every day.
I know well that the *only* element of commonality for Scientology
Critics is being opposed to Scientology (some only object to the
'organization' and think the 'philosophy' is just peachy, but, they're
wrong :)
I'm a Scientology Critic because I am also a critic of psychiatry,
government (both local and global), Television, music, art, stupidity,
literature and human society.
I just don't usually mention that here, because I'm here to object to
*Scientology* in all its aspects.
Zinj
Kim Palmer
it when I see this wastefulness of human brain power = it could be
better used to create something pretty instead of being afraid of
everything and everyone. Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen and
about as useful as tits on a bull.
The main reason though is your insistance that somehow scientology had
something to do with the schiavo case. A case so hidiously abused by
so-called christians as to make many people shake their heads in wonder
that a so-called "compassionate" religion could be so cruel. And then
suddenly after stories start being told about an abusive husband blah
blah - which there is NO evidence for but that didn't stop the stories
from being told. And then there is this rumbling about the case should
be re-opened and how dare he bury his wife where he wants her to be
buried and on and on it goes. Then you show up here with all your
lovely little conspiracy theories trying desparately to create ties to
scientology that never existed and to tie it all together with some vast
global conspiracy which also doesn't exist = unless you believe in
hubbard's 12 bankers. The more of this crap I hear the angrier I get
because it is useless and harmful and without merit. There are starving
children and homeless people living in your town what are you doing
about it?
Kim P
'
Lisa Ruby
>One frequent question for Scientology Critics is:
>Why do you care? These guys are obviously nuts! >They have about as much likelyhood of 'taking over >the world' or 'clearing the Planet' as Pinky
>and The Brain.
>Very true.
I disagree. The leaders of the CoS intend to use the their members to
carry out the stated intentions of their founder, L. Ron Hubbard. That
has not changed.
The following is a quote from lermanet.com:
The fact that Scientology aims at world domination in the form and
language of "clearing" is a major sign that the movement is indeed
totalitarian. As Arendt has noted, "The struggle for total domination
of the total population of the earth, the elimination of every
competing nontotalitarian reality, is inherent in totalitarian regimes;
if they do not pursue global power as their ultimate goal, they are
only too likely to lose whatever power they already have."116
Lisa Ruby
>And then suddenly after stories start being told about an abusive husband >blah blah - which there is NO evidence for but that didn't stop the stories
>from being told.
Since all the documentation from the terrisfight.org website and the
zimp.org website was REMOVED within three months of Terri's murder, it
serves the purpose of having no documentation available at sites
officially connected with the case.
(Also the friendsofterri.org site is now being used to sell wide-screen
television sets. Someone has gone to lengths to show show disrespect
toward the Schindlers and their daughter.)
But I still have documentation that Michael Schiavo did not comply with
the Florida statutes regarding his "guardianship" duties on my site and
it is elsewhere on the net as well.
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net