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roger gonnet

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Sep 11, 2001, 9:47:36 AM9/11/01
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Kamikaze planes:

2 of them have just hit with full force the two towers of the World trade
center in New York.


I'm extremely sorry for the victims.


--
"Rd" Roger Gonnet
"Doctor es divinity"
"Professor"

<http://home.worldnet.fr/gonnet>


Adoran

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Sep 11, 2001, 9:48:07 AM9/11/01
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and one in the pentagon....


"roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in message
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Kaeli

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Sep 11, 2001, 10:01:31 AM9/11/01
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Pentagon has also been hit as well. White House, treasury, and Pentagon being
evacuated. .. See below..

My condolences to the victims of this obvious terrorist attack. :(

Kaeli.

cep

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Sep 11, 2001, 10:15:58 AM9/11/01
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"roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in
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>Kamikaze planes:

>2 of them have just hit with full force the two towers of the World trade
>center in New York.

+ helicoptor on 1 corner of the Pentagon

+ fire at The Mall - connection White House-CapitolHill

All airflights stopped - mobile networks down in concerned areas

>I'm extremely sorry for the victims.

cep

roger gonnet

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Sep 11, 2001, 10:43:24 AM9/11/01
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cep <c...@at.com> a écrit dans le message :
3ba01b8f...@news.xs4all.nl...

> "roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in
> <9nl4dm$1bu1$1...@news4.isdnet.net>:
>
> >Kamikaze planes:
>
> >2 of them have just hit with full force the two towers of the World trade
> >center in New York.

One 767 and one 737

>
> + helicoptor on 1 corner of the Pentagon
>
> + fire at The Mall - connection White House-CapitolHill
>
> All airflights stopped - mobile networks down in concerned areas
>
> >I'm extremely sorry for the victims.

Hoping that Arnie is not near the flames escaping from the Pentagon in
Washington.

Too bad, guys.

These people (most probably "religiously-led" - I mean, cultically) were
completely brainwashed, - and were also the effect of foreign politics by
the US govt.

Bush should make seppuku: that's what a proud guy should do in such a case.

The time is not to more laxism regarding cults. It's to more force applied
so as to obtain that they respect LIFE, and respect HUMAN RIGHTS.

I learn right now that the second tower is down now. My god. These people
were innocent, as were those in the planes.


roger


Fluffygirl

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Sep 11, 2001, 10:46:55 AM9/11/01
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"roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in message
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>
> cep <c...@at.com> a écrit dans le message :
> 3ba01b8f...@news.xs4all.nl...
> > "roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in
> > <9nl4dm$1bu1$1...@news4.isdnet.net>:
> >
> > >Kamikaze planes:
> >
> > >2 of them have just hit with full force the two towers of the World
trade
> > >center in New York.
>
> One 767 and one 737
>
> >
> > + helicoptor on 1 corner of the Pentagon
> >
> > + fire at The Mall - connection White House-CapitolHill
> >
> > All airflights stopped - mobile networks down in concerned areas
> >
> > >I'm extremely sorry for the victims.
>
> Hoping that Arnie is not near the flames escaping from the Pentagon in
> Washington.
>
> Too bad, guys.
>
> These people (most probably "religiously-led" - I mean, cultically) were
> completely brainwashed, - and were also the effect of foreign politics by
> the US govt.

Oh crap. We are NOT to blame if some fanatical idiot chooses to do some
suicide mission against our country. If it comes to that, FRANCE has
effected a number of political decisions with which some other nations
disagree and FRANCE has a long and rich tradition of imperialism and
colonialism.


>
> Bush should make seppuku: that's what a proud guy should do in such a
case.

Yeah, right after YOUR president does.

>
> The time is not to more laxism regarding cults. It's to more force applied
> so as to obtain that they respect LIFE, and respect HUMAN RIGHTS.

First we have to find out who the fuck did this.

It is likely to be a terrorist attack. But who initiated it- that's unknown
at this time.


C


Rev. Norle Enturbulata

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Sep 11, 2001, 10:43:51 AM9/11/01
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"roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in message
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I would be careful making assumptions about Bush being at fault on this one.
Security on this level has had 8 years headstart in getting lax. Wake up
call.


Captain Nerd

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Sep 11, 2001, 10:58:48 AM9/11/01
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In article <9nl7eg$gkb$1...@news2.isdnet.net>,
"roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote:

> cep <c...@at.com> a écrit dans le message :
> 3ba01b8f...@news.xs4all.nl...
> > "roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in
> > <9nl4dm$1bu1$1...@news4.isdnet.net>:
> >
> > >Kamikaze planes:
> >
> > >2 of them have just hit with full force the two towers of the World trade
> > >center in New York.
>
> One 767 and one 737
>
> >
> > + helicoptor on 1 corner of the Pentagon
> >
> > + fire at The Mall - connection White House-CapitolHill
> >
> > All airflights stopped - mobile networks down in concerned areas
> >
> > >I'm extremely sorry for the victims.
>
> Hoping that Arnie is not near the flames escaping from the Pentagon in
> Washington.

Pentagon is still on fire, part has collapsed. A couple of car bombs
in different offices in DC, unconfirmed officially, but a neighbor
who works as a guard at GAO offices said the State Department and
one other building were hit.

One plane crashed outside of Pittsburgh, don't know the cause.

>
> Too bad, guys.

Mr. Understatement.

Cap.

--
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Captain Nerd can be reached at: cpt...@nerdwatch.com
"By the taping of my glasses, something geeky this way passes."

GS1100

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Sep 11, 2001, 10:59:31 AM9/11/01
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In article <1000219432.12754....@news.demon.co.uk>,
earthlig...@nohotmail.com says...

Myself, I'm surprised it took as long as it did for some terrorist group ( ok,
alleged terrorist group ) to figure out that at any given time the skies over
the U.S. are filled with huge flying bombs. All you have to do is convince
yourself that the deaths of a planeload of civilians, as well as huge numbers
of people on the ground, are somehow justified by your personal political
agenda. Then find someone willing to die who agrees with you. It is impossible
to protect every such target from attacks like this. I suspect that more was
not done to prevent this because such a scenario is too horrible to
contemplate.

My condolences to the families of the victims of this unconscionable act.


GS1100

p.s. none of this has anything to do with the topic of this newsgroup, and
anyone attempting to exploit this horrible tragedy to further their own pro or
anti cult agenda is beneath contempt. Let us all, no matter our personal
beliefs, bow our heads for a minute in sympathy for the victims.


cep

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Sep 11, 2001, 10:56:23 AM9/11/01
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"roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in
<9nl7eg$gkb$1...@news2.isdnet.net>:

>The time is not to more laxism regarding cults. It's to more force applied
>so as to obtain that they respect LIFE, and respect HUMAN RIGHTS.

[How do you differentiate between Palestinian relgiously inspired
suicide- attacks on Israel and its beneficiary, the PLO ?]

>I learn right now that the second tower is down now. My god. These people
>were innocent, as were those in the planes.

Also different city-centers are being evacuated (Chicago)

cep

Tom Klemesrud

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Sep 11, 2001, 11:05:14 AM9/11/01
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An attack of this magnitude would cost at least . . . Well, how much was
stolen--$5000 million + that the U.S. cannot account for?

roger gonnet

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Sep 11, 2001, 12:01:51 PM9/11/01
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Rev. Norle Enturbulata <earthlig...@nohotmail.com> a écrit dans le
message : 1000219432.12754....@news.demon.co.uk...

I was certainly not speaking of security.

The president of United States wants to pay money and more money of american
taxes just to "protect" USA. But what against does he want to protect USA?
Certainly not against US planes stolen by criminal fanatics. He wants to
protectthem against potential ICBMs. Nonsense. It is so simple to put a bomb
in a city like NY... and unless one kills every extremist on this planet,
which is impossible, suchwar acts are not possible to predict or to control.

roger
>
>


roger gonnet

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Sep 11, 2001, 12:08:09 PM9/11/01
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GS1100 <gs1...@my-deja.com> a écrit dans le message :
3b9e...@news2.lightlink.com...
ok,
> alleged terrorist group ) to figure out that at any given time the skies
over
> the U.S. are filled with huge flying bombs. All you have to do is convince
> yourself that the deaths of a planeload of civilians, as well as huge
numbers
> of people on the ground, are somehow justified by your personal political
> agenda. Then find someone willing to die who agrees with you. It is
impossible
> to protect every such target from attacks like this. I suspect that more
was
> not done to prevent this because such a scenario is too horrible to
> contemplate.
>
> My condolences to the families of the victims of this unconscionable act.
>
>
> GS1100
>
> p.s. none of this has anything to do with the topic of this newsgroup, and
> anyone attempting to exploit this horrible tragedy to further their own
pro or
> anti cult agenda is beneath contempt. Let us all, no matter our personal
> beliefs, bow our heads for a minute in sympathy for the victims.

You're right, but that would be to forget the purpose of such a forum. Here,
most people are against totalitarism, and this is plainly an act of
totalitarism.

roger


Ixbalam

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Sep 11, 2001, 12:32:23 PM9/11/01
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In article <cptnerd-0E57ED...@aurora.lightlink.com>,
Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:

> In article <9nl7eg$gkb$1...@news2.isdnet.net>,
> "roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote:
>
> > cep <c...@at.com> a écrit dans le message :
> > 3ba01b8f...@news.xs4all.nl...
> > > "roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in
> > > <9nl4dm$1bu1$1...@news4.isdnet.net>:
> > >
> > > >Kamikaze planes:
> > >
> > > >2 of them have just hit with full force the two towers of the World trade
> > > >center in New York.
> >
> > One 767 and one 737
> >
> > >
> > > + helicoptor on 1 corner of the Pentagon
> > >
> > > + fire at The Mall - connection White House-CapitolHill
> > >
> > > All airflights stopped - mobile networks down in concerned areas
> > >
> > > >I'm extremely sorry for the victims.
> >
> > Hoping that Arnie is not near the flames escaping from the Pentagon in
> > Washington.
>
> Pentagon is still on fire, part has collapsed. A couple of car bombs
> in different offices in DC, unconfirmed officially, but a neighbor
> who works as a guard at GAO offices said the State Department and
> one other building were hit.

The first report I saw on the pentagon said it had been destroyed.
I wondered how big a nuke it would take to 'destroy' that big concrete
MF.

> One plane crashed outside of Pittsburgh, don't know the cause.

I'm wondering if that might be another target. Isn't there a FEMA
coordination center near Pittsburgh?

--
jaguar (at) bestweb (dot) net / http://www.bestweb.net/~jaguar/

"I wasn't taught to be a moron, I was born that way." -Phil Chitester

ti...@freedom.net

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Sep 11, 2001, 2:50:06 PM9/11/01
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I just got into work, and we have a clear view down to the WTC from
where I am around 14th st, near the Westside Highway, 7 floors up.
Everyone was staring at the smoke and gaping hole from the first plane,
when people started yelling - then you saw the second plane as it hit
and burst into flames. I still feel nauseous.

~ tikk

________________________________________________________________________
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Clar...@juno.com

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Sep 12, 2001, 12:05:35 AM9/12/01
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Good - then be counted, Gonnet, as one who leapt on this tragedy as an
opportunity to forward an equally hate-filled agenda. Not that we're surprised;
as guard dog for a group of madmen as insane as Bin Laden, your postings today
could be easily predicted. And here you are, frothing at the mouth,
not-so-secretly enjoying a tragedy in a country you rabidly hate, for the
purpose of stirring up more hate.

Crawl back in your cage, Gonnet. Today is not a good day for foreign agent
provocateurs who came here to turn fear and anguish into a bonus in their pay
packets.

And don't forget that I did forward your bomb threats to law enforcement other
agencies and they will make sure that you get banned from entering US soil ever
again.

Clark

Clar...@juno.com

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Sep 12, 2001, 12:06:24 AM9/12/01
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Even in a national tragedy like the one that happened today you spew your venom.

You come here and pretend to have sympathy for American victims then degrade our
leaders and our nation at every opportunity. You couldn't be more obvious if you
hung a sign around your neck that said "Anti-American Bigot For Sale." Just out
of curiosity, how much will MILS pay you for today's rant, Gonnet? Are they the
only political faction you represent, or do the French arms dealers offer a
"grant" for any lunatic willing to spread fear and subversion among the American
electorate?

You have your work cut out for you if you think you can bash America to
Americans AND survive on this ng to push your anti-religious hate campaign
another day.

Clark


Feisty

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Sep 12, 2001, 1:20:59 AM9/12/01
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<ti...@freedom.net> wrote in message news:tpsn4pm...@corp.supernews.com...

> I just got into work, and we have a clear view down to the WTC from
> where I am around 14th st, near the Westside Highway, 7 floors up.
> Everyone was staring at the smoke and gaping hole from the first plane,
> when people started yelling - then you saw the second plane as it hit
> and burst into flames. I still feel nauseous.

That is so sad....
Glad to hear your o.k. for the most part.

Feisty

Kaeli

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Sep 12, 2001, 7:17:01 AM9/12/01
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Clark:
Roger is pointing out that there is not much that can be done against hijackers who have
taken over planes and turn them into bombs.. a terrible, horrific act as it is. Spending
money on something like "stars wars" would not have aided this turn of events.
Do not jump on me, please. My country is north of the border. We are affected indirectly
by this horrific attack, and we are standby here, ready to send aid and blood when
needed. I am type O positive, one of the universal donor types. There were four hour
line ups here to donate blood, and I was told to donate tomorrow (meaning today or any
time this week).

Kaeli

roger gonnet

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Sep 12, 2001, 9:29:11 AM9/12/01
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Kaeli <ka...@klis.com> a écrit dans le message :
3B9F442D...@klis.com...

You missed me, sorry. I'm just explaining that US govt should not spend on
such stupid defenses (which is mainly giving money for nothing to the real
criminals of your country, that is, those who make weapons and those who are
so hungry to use them: they exist).


> >
> > You come here and pretend to have sympathy for American victims then
degrade our
> > leaders and our nation at every opportunity.

Yes indeed, I'll degrade every nationalist of every country, and moreover
so, when they want to be planet-leaders without discussion. I hate any form
of unjustice: the hatable one from a Bin Laden (if it's him tyhe author of
this crime against humanity), the one of a scientology criminal cult, the
one of the US govt regarding other countries, including mine.

You have once again to understand that countries must share the goods, avoid
to poison others, and cease to make laws that are inacceptable by others.

This is true for USA like for France or anyone else. Having force or money
does not allow anyone to lead. Only love should lead.

roger


Phil Scott

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Sep 12, 2001, 1:09:05 PM9/12/01
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:05:35 +0200 (CEST), Clar...@juno.com wrote:

>Good - then be counted, Gonnet, as one who leapt on this tragedy as an
>opportunity to forward an equally hate-filled agenda. Not that we're surprised;
>as guard dog for a group of madmen as insane as Bin Laden, your postings today
>could be easily predicted. And here you are, frothing at the mouth,
>not-so-secretly enjoying a tragedy in a country you rabidly hate, for the
>purpose of stirring up more hate.

Dear Mr anonomous Bor...


When was the last time the cult of scientology gave the red carpet treatment to
the worlds largest black market weapons dealer and his wife Adnan Kashoghi(sp)?
On the Free Winds or was it at the Flag Land base. Does Adnan also sell
weapons to islamic terrorists? Oh yes.

thats how the man makes his money.

Is the cults Gold base compound still armed with hundreds of automic weapons,
machine guns, rockets and explosives? Has the cult of scientology given up
its control of 4 supposedly converted Russian weapons plants? Adnan of course
would not be involved. Whats next? Does the cults dear buddy Adnan also sell
poison gas or biological weapons. He does.

Would the cult use such weapons? Probably not as long as thier espionage
activity is working so well, although they do practice with the explosives and
machine guns at Gold base according to the ex green beret who trained them.
(see www.xenu.net Andre Tabayayon affidavit). the cults primary tactic is
industrial and political espionage. With a long history of infiltration and
control of the US and State govt by compromising govt officials.

(see German News, articles on Zwickau on how that is done by the use of shady
investment and realestate options.)

Does the cult control world oil prices? Well no way. But then the President of
OPEC *is a scientologist, and since he has gained office oil prices had risen 5%
per month on average (the same percent flag land base prices rose for about 2
years)... L Ron Hubbard policy you see. How many millions of third world
people were starved to death by the bad economy caused by such oil price
gouging?

Air craft run into buildings is not the only violence these cults engage in
today as they persue their insane agenda's.

Phil Scott

Phil Scott

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Sep 12, 2001, 1:10:05 PM9/12/01
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:06:24 +0200 (CEST), Clar...@juno.com wrote:


>Even in a national tragedy like the one that happened today you spew your venom.
>
>You come here and pretend to have sympathy for American victims then degrade our
>leaders and our nation at every opportunity. You couldn't be more obvious if you
>hung a sign around your neck that said "Anti-American Bigot For Sale." Just out
>of curiosity, how much will MILS pay you for today's rant, Gonnet? Are they the
>only political faction you represent, or do the French arms dealers offer a
>"grant" for any lunatic willing to spread fear and subversion among the American
>electorate?
>
>You have your work cut out for you if you think you can bash America to
>Americans AND survive on this ng to push your anti-religious hate campaign
>another day.
>
>Clark

Bremenium

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Sep 13, 2001, 12:09:40 AM9/13/01
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>From: "roger gonnet" roger....@worldnet.fr
>Date: 9/11/01 7:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9nl7eg$gkb$1...@news2.isdnet.net>

>
>cep <c...@at.com> a écrit dans le message :
>3ba01b8f...@news.xs4all.nl...
>> "roger gonnet" <roger....@worldnet.fr> wrote in
>> <9nl4dm$1bu1$1...@news4.isdnet.net>:
>>
>> >Kamikaze planes:
>>
>> >2 of them have just hit with full force the two towers of the World trade
>> >center in New York.

>These people (most probably "religiously-led" - I mean, cultically) were


>completely brainwashed, - and were also the effect of foreign politics by
>the US govt.
>
>Bush should make seppuku: that's what a proud guy should do in such a case.
>
>The time is not to more laxism regarding cults. It's to more force applied
>so as to obtain that they respect LIFE, and respect HUMAN RIGHTS.

You are a disgusting hypocritical ghoul. Using a terrible tragedy like this to
push your anti-religious and anti-American agenda is sickening.

It's creeps like you that caused the attack on an Islamic day-care center in
Texas last night.

Your rhetoric is clearly aimed at creating hatred and violence. Today it's
against Muslims and tomorrow it will again be against Scientologists.

If you were anywhere near being a normal human being I'd say you should be
ashamed of yourself, but extremists like you don't know the meaning of shame.


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