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Warning from Mark Fisher - Beware Scientology (re)programmers

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Jens Tingleff

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:41:39 AM11/27/09
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Howdy!

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/warning-mark-fisher-beware-scientology-re-programmers-57339/#post1080836

"Attention all former International/Gold Base Sea Org Members:

DM has his own team of DEPROGRAMMERS out in the field attempting to
recapture and return you to his abusive control.

Their names are Marion Pauw, Hansueli Stahli and Mike Sutter.

They are all former failed RTC executives, some of whom have spent time in
DM?s SP Hall at the Int base and have been witnesses to many of his abusive
tactics for many years.

Currently, they are acting as DEPROGRAMMERS attempting to take away your
freedom."

etc etc.

Best regards

Jens

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Astrid

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:44:23 AM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 1:41 am, Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org> wrote:

> http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/warning-mar...


>
> "Attention all former International/Gold Base Sea Org Members:
>
> DM has his own team of DEPROGRAMMERS out in the field attempting to
> recapture and return you to his abusive control.
>
> Their names are Marion Pauw, Hansueli Stahli and Mike Sutter.
>

The freeloaders debt. Once people are out of the cult, don't they
learn from other ex-members that they don't need to pay that?

You would think that alone, would keep them away from returning to the
cult.

I know it is a chicken and egg situation, since Scilons believe
everyone is hypnotized, EXCEPT for themselves and their heightened
awareness of how things really are -- just like LRH said -- but I find
it odd that Mark even describes it as deprogramming when, as the first
poster on ARS points out, it is reprogramming.

LRH was a huckster and charlatan and I sense that in the not-too-
distant future, believers in his "applied religious philosophy" are
going to get increasing amounts of scrutiny, questions and ridicule,
all very deserved.

If they don't want that, they'll have to make it all free.

Barbara loves Marty

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Nov 27, 2009, 11:58:43 AM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 2:41 am, Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org> wrote:
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That Mark Fisher guy is appalling. His activities in the "adult
business" (he acknowledged that he had a dirty website) is completely
on 1.1.

It's not just made up by the C of S, if you want to bring this line.
He admitted to a reporter that he had a website for "Tourism to
Thailand" and it was the lowest kind of dirt on the net.

And so is the entire guy. People who associate with him must be just
as low.

Fisher was never a Scientologist. People on the buttom of the
tonescale do not understand it or they wouldn't be so low.

Barbara Schwarz

>
> Howdy!
>
> http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/warning-mar...


>
> "Attention all former International/Gold Base Sea Org Members:
>
> DM has his own team of DEPROGRAMMERS out in the field attempting to
> recapture and return you to his abusive control.
>
> Their names are Marion Pauw, Hansueli Stahli and Mike Sutter.
>
> They are all former failed RTC executives, some of whom have spent time in
> DM?s SP Hall at the Int base and have been witnesses to many of his abusive
> tactics for many years.
>
> Currently, they are acting as DEPROGRAMMERS attempting to take away your
> freedom."
>
> etc etc.
>
> Best regards
>
>         Jens
>
> - --

>     Key ID 0x09723C12, jenst...@tingleff.org

Barbara loves Marty

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Nov 27, 2009, 12:02:22 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 7:44 am, Astrid <Astrid7777...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 1:41 am, Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org> wrote:

Jens and "Astrid" apparently have no idea what "deprogramming" is.

It is not somebody talking to you and trying to point out something to
you.

It is kidnapping and locking the door not allowing a person to leave,
insulting her, attacking her and forcing an injured person to submit
to the kidnappers every command as former infiltrator Cyril Vosper and
his Christian friends and assistants did to me.

Barbara Schwarz

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