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barbz  
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From: barbz <xenub...@netscape.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:25:21 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 2:25 pm
Subject: RFW Forum
I can't fathom where they get this "guns and alcohol" bit. I don't have
any guns. Don't have any alcohol either, for that matter.

Is this supposed to lead up to another Cameranonymous-type frame up?

NO GUNS HERE, YOU DUMBASSES!
However, my hands are registered as lethal weapons...
--
xenubarb
Chaplain, ARSCCwdne

A walk down the path of history is crunchy with the crispy corpses of
those who pooh-poohed or ignored the clown car of ridicule when it
pulled-up to the curb.

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Hartley Patterson  
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From: Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:59:53 -0000
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
xenub...@netscape.net says:

> I can't fathom where they get this "guns and alcohol" bit. I don't have
> any guns. Don't have any alcohol either, for that matter.

> Is this supposed to lead up to another Cameranonymous-type frame up?

They are digging in the basement of the house you abandoned after leaving
the door open for your drug and wino friends. How many bodies will they
find?

--
"and the best part is that when they make it into
a movie, all of the stars can play themselves."
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From: barbz <xenub...@netscape.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:52:13 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

Depends.
Human, or endangered species? There are a couple of orcas down there.
Turns out they don't do real well out of the water.

--
xenubarb
Chaplain, ARSCCwdne

A walk down the path of history is crunchy with the crispy corpses of
those who pooh-poohed or ignored the clown car of ridicule when it
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 More options Nov 11, 9:50 pm
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From: "t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:50:08 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

"barbz" <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote in message

news:ScEKm.15036$de6.9922@newsfe21.iad

>I can't fathom where they get this "guns and alcohol" bit.
> I don't have any guns. Don't have any alcohol either, for
> that matter.
> Is this supposed to lead up to another
> Cameranonymous-type frame up?
> NO GUNS HERE, YOU DUMBASSES!
> However, my hands are registered as lethal weapons...

Has anyone tried to register there?

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Peter Schilte  
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 More options Nov 11, 10:09 pm
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From: Peter Schilte <peterschi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:09:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 10:09 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
On 12 nov, 03:50, "t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "barbz" <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote in message

> news:ScEKm.15036$de6.9922@newsfe21.iad

> >I can't fathom where they get this "guns and alcohol" bit.
> > I don't have any guns. Don't have any alcohol either, for
> > that matter.
> > Is this supposed to lead up to another
> > Cameranonymous-type frame up?
> > NO GUNS HERE, YOU DUMBASSES!
> > However, my hands are registered as lethal weapons...

> Has anyone tried to register there?

Yes. I did. Still waiting for activation of my account. Almost 24
hours now.

Just checked, and my account has been deleted.

Peter

"Remember one thing, we are not running a business, we are
running a government.
We are in direct control of people's lives.
But for the first time we are not making victims of them,
we are making them more able.
So bring order into these
people's lives."
- HCO Secretary WW2
© 1975 L. Ron Hubbard Library

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t_shuffle  
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 More options Nov 11, 10:25 pm
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From: "t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:25:06 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

"t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> "barbz" <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:ScEKm.15036$de6.9922@newsfe21.iad
>>I can't fathom where they get this "guns and alcohol" bit.
>> I don't have any guns. Don't have any alcohol either, for
>> that matter.
>> Is this supposed to lead up to another
>> Cameranonymous-type frame up?
>> NO GUNS HERE, YOU DUMBASSES!
>> However, my hands are registered as lethal weapons...

> Has anyone tried to register there?

I'm waiting for a moderator to activate my account. I bet it won't be long
before I'm a member.

I'm also waiting for a moderator to activate my OCMB account, and I figure
that will happen really soon, too. It's only been two fucking years.


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Barbara loves Marty  
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 More options Nov 11, 10:35 pm
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From: Barbara loves Marty <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:35:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
On Nov 11, 8:50 pm, "t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "barbz" <xenub...@netscape.net> wrote in message

> news:ScEKm.15036$de6.9922@newsfe21.iad

> >I can't fathom where they get this "guns and alcohol" bit.
> > I don't have any guns. Don't have any alcohol either, for
> > that matter.
> > Is this supposed to lead up to another
> > Cameranonymous-type frame up?
> > NO GUNS HERE, YOU DUMBASSES!
> > However, my hands are registered as lethal weapons...

> Has anyone tried to register there?

I would post there. Unfortunately, after they put Marty's name under
the photos and actions of his doppelganger, I can't support them
anymore.

Barbara Schwarz


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Hartley Patterson  
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 More options Nov 11, 11:28 pm
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From: Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:28:59 -0000
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 11:28 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
thorazineshuf...@gmail.com says:

> I'm also waiting for a moderator to activate my OCMB account, and I
figure
> that will happen really soon, too. It's only been two fucking years.

The original reason OCMB shut down registration was that OSA was flooding
it with applications. I'm sure the OCMBers wouldn't be so mean as to do
that to RFW... last I heard WWP were saying the 4chans were just such nice
people these days they wouldn't do it either.

--
"and the best part is that when they make it into
a movie, all of the stars can play themselves."
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/stolgy_0.htm


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 More options Nov 11, 11:52 pm
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From: realpch <real...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:52:31 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

You know, I think I actually had one, but the details are lost in the
mists of time.

If I can dredge it up, you wanna buy it from me?

:D

Peach
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t_shuffle  
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 More options Nov 12, 12:13 am
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From: "t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:13:49 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 12:13 am
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

"realpch" <real...@aol.com> wrote in message

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I'll give you $5 for it if I have to tell them it's me. If I can post as
you, well I figure that's worth at least ten, maybe more.

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realpch  
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 More options Nov 12, 12:29 am
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From: realpch <real...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:29:29 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 12:29 am
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

: D

Well, would you be trying to sound like me, or would you be ruining my reputation?

: D

Peach
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Gregory Hall  
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 More options Nov 12, 12:36 pm
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From: "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:36:19 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
"Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3880ff09-6a61-4c4e-a42c-e89c0601fd94@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

> I would post there. Unfortunately, after they put Marty's name under
> the photos and actions of his doppelganger, I can't support them
> anymore.

> Barbara Schwarz

Barbara, I'm sure they don't want to be associated with you, anyway. You do
them a favor not being on their side. Every time you supported them you
diminished their reputation.

--
Gregory Hall


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Tom Kruz  
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 More options Nov 12, 4:25 pm
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From: Tom Kruz <thomas.kr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:25:04 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
On Nov 11, 7:50 pm, "t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Has anyone tried to register there?

Yes, I have registered 3 different accounts there via privately
operated proxies. The results were interesting...

The first account was created several days ago with an email address
from a non-mainstream provider. The information associated with the
account is of course false but nothing that would intentionally or
unintentionally raise any red flags (other than the obvious scilon
paranoia). In fact the persona I created for the account will generate
very specific results on a simple Google search and will go back
several years. The forum account was self activated but is still
awaiting posting approval from the administrator/moderators. When I
attempted to log in to the email account this morning I was greeted
with a security form - apparently someone had been attempting to gain
unauthorized access which caused the account to be temporarily locked
for security reasons. Of course the possibility of gaining access to
this account even through brute force methods would be significantly
difficult as it uses an extremely strong 32 character alphanumeric
password (including symbols).

The second account was created a couple of days later (using a
completely different proxy) on a popular mainstream provider. This one
was created with pseudo-stupidity in mind - e.g. tons of "personal"
information in the account profile. This too utilized a fairly strong
password BUT I decided to use the same password for both the email
account AND the RFW forum account. As of this morning the email
account had been accessed and the password CHANGED. The password was
easy enough to reset however and when I logged in all new messages in
the inbox had been marked as READ. Keep in mind this is a new email
account, which nobody except those at RFW would know about and used a
password strong enough to keep anyone out that DIDN'T have access to
it. The RFW forum account however has been deleted.

[Note: I will not comment on the third account for various reasons]

Encrypted connections were utilized for both sign up and logging into
the email accounts. In all cases a clean room sand-boxed OS running on
a locked research machine was used. Even the chances of a man in the
middle attack are ZERO - for reasons I will not get into.

EPIC FAIL - for not marking my inbox "unread"


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 More options Nov 12, 4:55 pm
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From: realpch <real...@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:55:26 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

Oooops! Why, if one were paranoid, one might conclude that someone from
the RFW admin seat had been snooping in your email account!

Peach
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Barbara Schwarz  
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From: Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:52:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
On Nov 12, 11:36 am, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:

I am pretty certain that they would not allow you to post in their
Forum.

Neal, why is it so difficult for you to be a decent person? Did
anybody ever tell you that decency is not a part of Christianity? Did
anybody ever tell you that being decent is not manly?

Barbara Schwarz


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From: "t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:10:37 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

"realpch" <real...@aol.com> wrote in message

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I would try to sound like you just long enough to gain credibility, and then
I'd most likely start telling people how fucked up they are. I'd get banned,
and folks would think you turned into one hell of a snarky, sarcastic bitch.
Nobody wins.

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From: realpch <real...@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:05:58 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 13 2009 2:05 am
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

Heh. I ought to go over there and do that myself, and then tell people
it was you!

: D

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 More options Nov 13, 9:14 am
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From: Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:14:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 13 2009 9:14 am
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
On Nov 11, 10:28 pm, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

> thorazineshuf...@gmail.com says:

> > I'm also waiting for a moderator to activate my OCMB account, and I
> figure
> > that will happen really soon, too. It's only been two fucking years.

You are not alone.

> The original reason OCMB shut down registration was that OSA was flooding
> it with applications. I'm sure the OCMBers wouldn't be so mean as to do
> that to RFW... last I heard WWP were saying the 4chans were just such nice
> people these days they wouldn't do it either.

Not every dirty deed can be laid at OSA's door.   After the Tory/WWP
"dispute", some anonymous started posting a lot of trash, etc. on
OCMB .....apparently in protest that that details unfavorable to Tory
weren't being allowed on OCMB.  I think it was after he/she/it was
banned that the biggest rush to register started.   It appears that
April of 2008 was the last date any registration was enabled.

Is it possible that whoever is responsible put some sort of system in
place to automatically register people who are registering for other
sites?  Many times the registrations have outnumbered the posts.

Has anything like this happened to ESMB or WWP?  Apparently Andreas
doesn't intend to do anything about it.   But it is misleading to keep
the registration section open when no registrations are being enabled
and listing every new registration as if they were an accepted new
member (false stats)   If nothing can be done to stop it and none of
the registrations are really accepted, why not remove the registration
feature entirely?   Ditto for the Guest Book which has been locked
since 2007.

Tigger


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Gregory Hall  
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 More options Nov 13, 2:19 pm
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From: "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:19:39 -0500
Local: Fri, Nov 13 2009 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com> wrote in message

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> I am pretty certain that they would not allow you to post in their
> Forum.

Why not? I am on their side. But I can't even find the forum on RFW.

> Neal, why is it so difficult for you to be a decent person? Did
> anybody ever tell you that decency is not a part of Christianity? Did
> anybody ever tell you that being decent is not manly?

I AM a very decent person. In person I'm very nice, fair, honest, kind,
mannered etc. But, on Usenet I have a right to be otherwise. God never said
one couldn't play games on Usenet. Being decent "in real life" is, indeed,
manly. If you would come for a visit sometime I would be happy to show you
how decent I really am. I would treat you with respect that is due a living,
breathing, human woman. But, I see no such living, breathing humans on
Usenet. All I see is words on the screen, which words could be generated by
a bot or screed generator for all I know.

--
Gregory Hall

====================================

[REPLY]

If you would be decent to me perhaps I would be more inclined to be decent
to you.

--
Gregory Hall


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t_shuffle  
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From: "t_shuffle" <thorazineshuf...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:01:23 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 14 2009 2:01 am
Subject: Re: RFW Forum

"realpch" <real...@aol.com> wrote in message

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I'm okay with that.

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From: Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:02:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 14 2009 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: RFW Forum
On Nov 13, 1:19 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:

> "Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com> wrote in message

> news:a7658490-7418-4989-9dd1-a82ad4240575@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

> > I am pretty certain that they would not allow you to post in their
> > Forum.

> Why not? I am on their side. But I can't even find the forum on RFW.

It is on the RFW, homepage, left upper side, first item. FORUM it says
there.

Barbara Schwarz


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