How I Was Kidnapped by Scilons and Lived to Tell The Tale
Anonymous
Yesterday, on May 21, I went to a flash-raid in Amsterdam. There were
around 6-7 people present, including a long-time critic of
Scientology, Jeta Eggers.
We were handing out flyers in front of the Org for about 20 minutes
before a police officer showed up, the police station is right next to
the Org so he was wondering what was going on. He'd never heard of us
before (which is strange considering we participated in every raid)
and asked if someone could step into the station to explain
everything. I volunteered.
We discussed whether we were allowed to hand out flyers without a
permit because that right is usually reserved for religious groups. I
argued that even though Anonymous is not a religion, we were still
doing it from an ideological point of view and not for commercial
purposes or financial gain.
We couldn't agree on it and we had to stop flyering and keep the
enturbulation to a minimum.
I told the group this and we continued without flyers and spoke to
people passing by. We met a few Londoners who knew about Anonymous and
wanted a flyer, we gave them one and they went inside the Org to ask
for material.
They came out again with a free DVD.
After some discussion about how we were going to get our hands on one
of those DVDs I said: " Maybe I could just ask for one really nicely."
We discussed that option shortly but some guys didn't want to take
their mask off and we agreed that going in masked would put them off,
to say the least.
I was wearing sunglasses and a hood, I'm 5"8 and a girl, I do not look
threatening.
I didn't think I'd need physical protection stepping into what's
basically a church and/or a bookstore.
I thought the worst they would do was telling me to fuck off.
There was no indication we couldn't go in there to ask a question, in
fact, the British Anon-sympathisers just did. I wouldn't have tried it
otherwise.
Maybe this is naïve of me and maybe it was a stupid idea but I did not
expect their reaction would be this bizarre. This is not America,
there have been hardly any incidences of Fair Game or bullbaiting
here.
Once again, I did not walk in to troll them, I just asked one polite
honest question.
I walked into the Org and two people were standing at the reception
desk, a girl with dead eyes and an expressionless face and a guy who
seemed to immediately snap into focus when he saw me.
I walked up to the desk and said: "Hello, excuse me but I saw the DVD
you gave to the British guys and wondered if you had an extra copy for
me."
The girl didn't say anything, the guy asked me why I wanted the DVD. I
told him: "Just for information, I'd like to know where you are coming
from", he scoffed at me. He didn't seem to able to control himself for
a moment and started telling me how ridiculous that was coming from me
and how I had been standing outside for 30 minutes with "those guys".
At this point I was feeling like this wasn't going to go anywhere and
asked once more "Can you give me a DVD or not? Otherwise I'll just
leave."
He started acting shady and pretended to go look for a DVD to give to
me while walking around the room. I started to feel uncomfortable.
Then I heard a 'click' behind me and when I turned around I saw he had
just locked the door and was walking away from it with the keys in his
hand.
I don't start freaking out just yet, Anonymous was watching through
the glass doors and knocked on the window, pointing to the locked
door.
I asked the Scientologist guy why he had locked the door and he
continued to act shady, saying something like: "Oh, no reason. I'll
just find you a DVD now".
I start freaking out and demand he unlock the door so I can leave, I
tell them I'll gladly leave if they don't want me here and that there
is no reason to lock the door. I start raising my voice and try to
talk to the receptionist girl, asking her if she thought this was
normal behaviour and why they would lock me in without a reason. She
just blinked at me with those lifeless eyes and didn't respond in any
way.
I start yelling at the guy to let me the fuck out of the building, I
didn't want to be there any more and I showed no sign of aggression
before they locked me inside. The guy calls for back-up from upstairs,
several Scientologists arrive.
Apart from some beefy guys who didn't look like security (they were
wearing the regular Scientology 'math teacher from the 90's' clothes)
I remember one skinny guy with glasses getting in between me and the
receptionist guy. He stared at me and I asked him why they were doing
this, why I couldn't leave and if he thought this was appropriate
behaviour for a so-called church.
He kept staring at me and didn't react except for a slight nodding of
his head.
I decide "Fuck this, I'm leaving one way or the other." and start for
the door. Receptionist guy yells at one of the goons: "Stop her! Keep
her here!" and as I was nearing the door he got in front of me, I
pushed past him and he grabbed my arms.
At this point, Anonymous is standing less than two feet away in front
of the glass door. As they saw what was happening they started banging
on the glass doors and called out to me that they were calling the
police.
I yelled back: "Get a fucking camera!" but there wasn't a video camera
available.
I'm not ashamed to say that at this point, I was feeling the panic
rise up in me.
The beefy guy let me go and I started in on the receptionist again,
demanding to be let out. He told me: "You're not going anywhere,
you're staying here until the police shows up to take care of you."
I yelled at him that there was no way the police were going to arrest
me for walking into a building and that they were seriously in the
wrong here.
The police arrive, I bang on the glass door and tell them I've been
locked in and please, just make them let me go.
The Scientologists open the door for the police and I see the male
officer is the same one I've been talking to that evening. I was
relieved and shaky.
The police officer told me to sit down on the staircase while his
female partner went and talked to the Scientologists on the other side
of the staircase where the reception desk was. When I was sitting down
I couldn't see that area because of the high banister.
The cop started to yell at me about how that was the stupidest thing I
could have done and that I had disregarded our previous conversation
about keeping the enturbulation to a minimum.
At first I was shocked, I wasn't out for enturbulation and only asked
a polite question. I didn't understand why he was blaming me for what
just happened to me. I tried to tell him I honestly wasn't trying to
directly confront them, I was just asking for information.
I told me he didn't want to hear any of it and seemed to feel
personally betrayed by me after our previous conversation. He then
accused me of faking my shakiness and upset, which really pissed me
off. He asked for my ID.
http://i30.tinypic.com/2pt2ge1.jpg
Stunned, I gave it to him and he asked for my address. Earlier I
explained to him about Fair Game and why we were wearing masks, he
obviously remembered it when he leaned in while I recited my contact
information in an almost-whisper.
I told him I honestly didn't mean any harm and now saw how me going
inside could be interpreted as a hostile action.
He told me to shut up and sit down. He then joined his partner to talk
to the Scientologists.
Unable to just sit there, I got up and peeked out over the banister.
The cops saw me but didn't do anything about it. Julia Rijnvis was
there, Director of Special Affairs in OSA, and tried to smooth out the
situation with the cops.
The cops asked receptionist guy (who seemed pretty meek now) if he had
asked me to leave before locking the door, he admitted he didn't.
Rijnvis told them "security didn't handle the situation in the best
possible way", way to understate the situation.
One of the beefy Scientologists pointed to the cop's notebook with my
information on it and asked "Can I get a copy of that?", the cop said:
"No".
I left the building with the Police and he told Anon to move the fuck
away from the Org. Anonymous asked me if I was okay, what the fuck
just happened and one guy had a cigarette ready for me.
I love Anonymous.
I stood aside while the Police argued with Anon, taking a few deep
breaths of thetanless-air and wondering what the fuck just happened.
We eventually left and had some drinks to calm down.
I probably won't be pressing charges because I don't want them to find
out my identity and don't have the money to go to court over this. I
will be checking out the options I have without going public with my
name.
Please feel free to spread this story so we can learn from this. This
was obviously a tactic they had prepared even though it wasn't
executed very gracefully. Scientology is fighting dirty and trying to
intimidate individual Anon. I'll be coming to the next raid, and the
next one, and the next one.
They can't stop us.
peters...@gmail.com
> http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-or...
Wow! They kept you in captivity against your will: That is a crime, no
matter how long they kept you.
Do you have your story also in Dutch?
I would like to post it on my website. Because this is huge!
Peter
"After an in-depth examination, an Investigative
Commission titled "So-called Sects and Psycho-Groups" set up by the
German Bundestag
(Parliament) described the organization in its final report as an anti-
constitutional movement
with a criminogenic structure."
barb
Don't make the mistake of giving them an opportunity to use against you.
They cannot be reasoned with.
There is no dialog or exchange of ideas. It's pointless to try.
Don't assume they're nice people, even if they're smiling. KSW. Remember.
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
It's Poodlin' Time!
“I think that the protections that we enjoy for freedom of worship exist
so long as we don’t step over the line. When religious worship and
belief cross over into things like fraud, victimization of others and
the disruption of the political arena, that protection is no longer
appropriate.”
--Robert Goff
Professor Emeritus, UCSC
Chip Gallo
The Scientologists treated you shamefully and violated their own
so-called "Way to Happiness" in the process. There is no way this
behavior on their part exemplified a good relationship with the
environment. I guess poisoning the environment with asbestos is a clue
that they really don't follow the Way to Happiness and generally
accepted behaviors.
I apologize for them as they present the worst side of human behavior!
Chip Gallo
Knowing How to Know is Knowing Where to Go:
http://citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=15543
http://xenutv.wordpress.com
http://groups.myspace.com/scngoodbadugly
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/
http://www.xenu.net/
http://www.xenuTV.com
http://www.lermanet.com
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/
http://whyaretheydead.net/
http://alley.ethercat.com/cgi-bin/door/door.cgi?8
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/index.html
http://www.torymagoo.org/
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http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-org-during-mini-raid-15216/3/#post282588
Yesterday, on May 21, I went to a flash-raid in Amsterdam. There were
around 6-7 people present, including a long-time critic of
Scientology, Jeta Eggers.
---seems you got the only netherlands policeman stupid only to be a
scientologist? Do you imagine that the scientologists have locvked you
against your will? The executive of this policeman has to take your
complaint for sequestration and wrong arrest and bad behaviour etc. Take the
others anons witnessings about being locked in while you were calm and
polite. Policemen should be banned to act that way, this is insane,
partiocularly in a country whose Supreme court sat down on the fucked
"copyrights" of the cult, so as to allow everyone to see what sort of a scam
the group was selling with his BTs. And ask newspapers to come in. Don't be
surprised if the scamologists give lots of false witnessings against you,
you can be certain that they'll do exactly that, the lie is ythe only way
that cult is still around since 58 years.
---roger gonnet
Eldon
> http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-or...
>
They sure can't. They are getting pretty desperate or they wouldn't
have behaved so weirdly. The impromptu flash raids are guaranteed to
set them on edge, too.
Sounds like they fed the cops a line of utter bullshit, which is
typical of their "ethics" system.
Clam....@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Groups and individuals needed to educate the cops. Purchased cops
need to be outed.
Jens Tingleff
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Anonymous wrote:
>
http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-org-during-mini-raid-15216/3/#post282588
>
> Yesterday, on May 21, I went to a flash-raid in Amsterdam. There were
> around 6-7 people present, including a long-time critic of
> Scientology, Jeta Eggers.
>
> We were handing out flyers in front of the Org for about 20 minutes
> before a police officer showed up, the police station is right next to
> the Org so he was wondering what was going on. He'd never heard of us
> before (which is strange considering we participated in every raid)
> and asked if someone could step into the station to explain
> everything. I volunteered.
>
> We discussed whether we were allowed to hand out flyers without a
> permit because that right is usually reserved for religious groups. I
> argued that even though Anonymous is not a religion, we were still
> doing it from an ideological point of view and not for commercial
> purposes or financial gain.
> We couldn't agree on it and we had to stop flyering and keep the
> enturbulation to a minimum.
TIP #2: Make sure the police knows you're there and that the clams have been
known to react unrationally in the past (such as breaking the Amsterdam
Anon's camera - what's the police report number again?)
Tip #3: do what the nice police person says.
(Top #1 is Don't do solo pickets, but you had that covered - just)
>
> I told the group this and we continued without flyers and spoke to
> people passing by. We met a few Londoners who knew about Anonymous and
> wanted a flyer, we gave them one and they went inside the Org to ask
> for material.
> They came out again with a free DVD.
>
> After some discussion about how we were going to get our hands on one
> of those DVDs I said: " Maybe I could just ask for one really nicely."
> We discussed that option shortly but some guys didn't want to take
> their mask off and we agreed that going in masked would put them off,
> to say the least.
>
> I was wearing sunglasses and a hood, I'm 5"8 and a girl, I do not look
> threatening.
> I didn't think I'd need physical protection stepping into what's
> basically a church and/or a bookstore.
> I thought the worst they would do was telling me to fuck off.
> There was no indication we couldn't go in there to ask a question, in
> fact, the British Anon-sympathisers just did. I wouldn't have tried it
> otherwise.
Sorry, but the police is right, what you did was unwise and you were lucky
to get out without harm. That's all there is to it.
The clams are not behaving rationally, and you should be aware that you are
running a risk if you rely on clams behaving rationally.
Your mere presence is "enturbulation" - you should look into what a word
means before using it.
>
> Maybe this is naïve of me and maybe it was a stupid idea but I did not
> expect their reaction would be this bizarre. This is not America,
> there have been hardly any incidences of Fair Game or bullbaiting
> here.
So what if it's not in America?
Here's Roland bleeding from being beaten up in nice peaceful London:
http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/muslinger/lndn970503.html
here's the guy who tried to bash my head in with a prop he'd taken from us
in nice peaceful East Grinstead:
http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/images/EGrinstead9805/sthill_22_a.jpg
(he did two-three days in jail - pleased me a bit :-) )
>
> Once again, I did not walk in to troll them, I just asked one polite
> honest question.
See above about expecting clams to behave rationally.
>
> At this point, Anonymous is standing less than two feet away in front
> of the glass door. As they saw what was happening they started banging
> on the glass doors and called out to me that they were calling the
> police.
> I yelled back: "Get a fucking camera!" but there wasn't a video camera
> available.
TIP #3; D O N ' T P R O T E S T W I T H O U T A C A M E R A
! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
(no smiley)
[.....]
> The cops asked receptionist guy (who seemed pretty meek now) if he had
> asked me to leave before locking the door, he admitted he didn't.
> Rijnvis told them "security didn't handle the situation in the best
> possible way", way to understate the situation.
This is all spontaneous, see? Whereever Anonymous goes, violence happens,
see?
[.....]
>
> I probably won't be pressing charges because I don't want them to find
> out my identity and don't have the money to go to court over this. I
> will be checking out the options I have without going public with my
> name.
Great. Now they have a license to lock up protesters who don't want to
complain.
>
> Please feel free to spread this story so we can learn from this.
Good idea :-)
> This
> was obviously a tactic they had prepared even though it wasn't
> executed very gracefully.
I agree with all of that. In the future, try behaving in a way which gives
the police the baility to protect you and see all of what happens.
> Scientology is fighting dirty and trying to
> intimidate individual Anon. I'll be coming to the next raid, and the
> next one, and the next one.
> They can't stop us.
So. I'm glad you're unhurt. In the future, try to be safe, eh?
Best Regards
Jens
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Anonymous wrote:
>
http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-org-during-mini-raid-15216/3/#post282588
>
> Yesterday, on May 21, I went to a flash-raid in Amsterdam. There were
> around 6-7 people present, including a long-time critic of
> Scientology, Jeta Eggers.
>
> We were handing out flyers in front of the Org for about 20 minutes
> before a police officer showed up, the police station is right next to
> the Org so he was wondering what was going on. He'd never heard of us
> before (which is strange considering we participated in every raid)
> and asked if someone could step into the station to explain
> everything. I volunteered.
>
> We discussed whether we were allowed to hand out flyers without a
> permit because that right is usually reserved for religious groups. I
> argued that even though Anonymous is not a religion, we were still
> doing it from an ideological point of view and not for commercial
> purposes or financial gain.
> We couldn't agree on it and we had to stop flyering and keep the
> enturbulation to a minimum.
TIP #2: Make sure the police knows you're there and that the clams have been
known to react unrationally in the past (such as breaking the Amsterdam
Anon's camera - what's the police report number again?)
Tip #3: do what the nice police person says.
(Top #1 is Don't do solo pickets, but you had that covered - just)
>
> I told the group this and we continued without flyers and spoke to
> people passing by. We met a few Londoners who knew about Anonymous and
> wanted a flyer, we gave them one and they went inside the Org to ask
> for material.
> They came out again with a free DVD.
>
> After some discussion about how we were going to get our hands on one
> of those DVDs I said: " Maybe I could just ask for one really nicely."
> We discussed that option shortly but some guys didn't want to take
> their mask off and we agreed that going in masked would put them off,
> to say the least.
>
> I was wearing sunglasses and a hood, I'm 5"8 and a girl, I do not look
> threatening.
> I didn't think I'd need physical protection stepping into what's
> basically a church and/or a bookstore.
> I thought the worst they would do was telling me to fuck off.
> There was no indication we couldn't go in there to ask a question, in
> fact, the British Anon-sympathisers just did. I wouldn't have tried it
> otherwise.
Sorry, but the police is right, what you did was unwise and you were lucky
to get out without harm. That's all there is to it.
The clams are not behaving rationally, and you should be aware that you are
running a risk if you rely on clams behaving rationally.
Your mere presence is "enturbulation" - you should look into what a word
means before using it.
>
> Maybe this is naïve of me and maybe it was a stupid idea but I did not
> expect their reaction would be this bizarre. This is not America,
> there have been hardly any incidences of Fair Game or bullbaiting
> here.
So what if it's not in America?
Here's Roland bleeding from being beaten up in nice peaceful London:
http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/muslinger/lndn970503.html
here's the guy who tried to bash my head in with a prop he'd taken from us
in nice peaceful East Grinstead:
http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/images/EGrinstead9805/sthill_22_a.jpg
(he did two-three days in jail - pleased me a bit :-) )
>
> Once again, I did not walk in to troll them, I just asked one polite
> honest question.
See above about expecting clams to behave rationally.
>
> At this point, Anonymous is standing less than two feet away in front
> of the glass door. As they saw what was happening they started banging
> on the glass doors and called out to me that they were calling the
> police.
> I yelled back: "Get a fucking camera!" but there wasn't a video camera
> available.
TIP #3; D O N ' T P R O T E S T W I T H O U T A C A M E R A
! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
(no smiley)
[.....]
> The cops asked receptionist guy (who seemed pretty meek now) if he had
> asked me to leave before locking the door, he admitted he didn't.
> Rijnvis told them "security didn't handle the situation in the best
> possible way", way to understate the situation.
This is all spontaneous, see? Whereever Anonymous goes, violence happens,
see?
[.....]
>
> I probably won't be pressing charges because I don't want them to find
> out my identity and don't have the money to go to court over this. I
> will be checking out the options I have without going public with my
> name.
Great. Now they have a license to lock up protesters who don't want to
complain.
>
> Please feel free to spread this story so we can learn from this.
Good idea :-)
> This
> was obviously a tactic they had prepared even though it wasn't
> executed very gracefully.
I agree with all of that. In the future, try behaving in a way which gives
the police the baility to protect you and see all of what happens.
> Scientology is fighting dirty and trying to
> intimidate individual Anon. I'll be coming to the next raid, and the
> next one, and the next one.
> They can't stop us.
So. I'm glad you're unhurt. In the future, try to be safe, eh?
Jeta
For the record, I saw this happen, it's a true story. I didn't
hear what was being said inside the fake-church of course; the
door was closed/locked.
If you decide to file a complaint, you can count on me as your
witness.
Anonette wrote:
[...]
> The cops asked receptionist guy (who seemed pretty meek now) if
> he had asked me to leave before locking the door, he admitted he
> didn't. Rijnvis told them "security didn't handle the situation
> in the best possible way", way to understate the situation.
He admits he locked you in (and kept you in against your will)
while there was no direct necessity or reason to do so... Good,
you got him, legally, if you want to.
[...]
> I decide "Fuck this, I'm leaving one way or the other." and
> start for the door. Receptionist guy yells at one of the
> goons: "Stop her! Keep her here!" and as I was nearing the door
> he got in front of me, I pushed past him and he grabbed my arms.
And this one too. Physical attack.
[...]
> I left the building with the Police and he told Anon to move the
> fuck away from the Org. Anonymous asked me if I was okay, what
> the fuck just happened and one guy had a cigarette ready for me.
> I love Anonymous.
We LUV you too. ;) You're very much alive, which is something
dedicated scieno's fear.
[...]
> This was obviously a tactic they had prepared even though it
> wasn't executed very gracefully. Scientology is fighting dirty
> and trying to intimidate individual Anon.
Yes, I also think this was a prepared action. I hope he
applied "standard tech" by shouting "all hands!" If he didn't he
must be reported to Ethics immediately. :)
With kindest regards,
Jeta Eggers
Amsterdam
The Netherlands
--
Avatar is a scientology clone, using the same tactics and "tech"
Butterfly
"Jeta" <je...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
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>
> For the record, I saw this happen, it's a true story. I didn't
> hear what was being said inside the fake-church of course; the
> door was closed/locked.
>
> If you decide to file a complaint, you can count on me as your
> witness.
This message from beyond the grave was brought to you by:
"Delirium tremens" Jeta Eggers!
Jeta Eggers
Wagenaarstraat 483
1093 CN Amsterdam
Telefoon: 020-6681789
IP nummer: 213.84.211.42:35450
je...@xs4all.nl
Alles over de man, die behalve Psychopaat ook Racist, Anti-Semiet,
en Seksist is. Alsof dat niet genoeg is, is hij ook (allemaal
aantoonbaar) een Spammer van jawelste, Alcoholist, dagelijks
drugsgebruiker, Plaatjesdief, Bedrieger en notoire Leugenaar.
Hij post meestal "Anonymous", maar we weten allemaal dat het
Jeta Eggers is, alias de "Zuipende Wietkabouter"!!!
Je kunt het allemaal lezen en zien op:
Enkele foto's: http://www.jeta-eggers.info/pageID_5572572.html
Een oude klassefoto van Jeta Eggers:
http://www.jeta-eggers.info/pageID_5564425.html
Gerrit
henri
<scientol...@live.com> wrote:
[One thing, dumb idea to go in like this. But having done so. . .]
>I decide "Fuck this, I'm leaving one way or the other." and start for
>the door. Receptionist guy yells at one of the goons: "Stop her! Keep
>her here!" and as I was nearing the door he got in front of me, I
>pushed past him and he grabbed my arms.
At this point you should have just screamed at the top of your lungs
and kept it up until they let you go. That way people would know what
was going on, and there would be no way they could claim you were
there of your own free will.
If nothing else it would make their criminal activity unpleasant for
them to continue.
anon.ne...@gmail.com
> en Seksist is. Alsof dat niet genoeg is, is hij ook (allemaal
> aantoonbaar) een Spammer van jawelste, Alcoholist, dagelijks
> drugsgebruiker, Plaatjesdief, Bedrieger en notoire Leugenaar.
>
> Hij post meestal "Anonymous", maar we weten allemaal dat het
> Jeta Eggers is, alias de "Zuipende Wietkabouter"!!!
>
> Je kunt het allemaal lezen en zien op:
> http://www.jeta-eggers.info/
>
> Enkele foto's:http://www.jeta-eggers.info/pageID_5572572.html
>
> Een oude klassefoto van Jeta Eggers:http://www.jeta-eggers.info/pageID_5564425.html
>
> Gerrit
Een wijze man zei ooit, hij die andermans vuile was buiten hangt heeft
zelf meer te verbergen.
Waar dit op slaat? Nou beste gerrit (paria) wammes. Er wordt normaal
gesproken over een gebeurtenis, waarbij het de mensen wie het betreft
niet zwart gemaakt worden. Deze arme schapen weten niet anders meer
dan hun rare sekte regeltjes. En jij komt binnen alleen een beetje
herrie schoppen. Sterker nog jij neemt de moeite om een gehele pagina
te wijden aan een persoon. Ik begrijp dat Jeta zich daardoor enorm
vereerd voelt. Ow en gerrit, iedereen lacht jou uit, dat je het even
weet. ;-)
Conclusie. Gerrit Wammes www.watbenjedan.com
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Tom Newton
<a5d106f7-4af0-4d37...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
> Anonymous <scientol...@live.com> wrote:
I want to see some evidence that this isn't just another
hate fiction piece.
Like all sensible people I do not believe anything posted anonymously
on the Internet unless it is backed up by credible sources.
_Escpecially_ if it comes from a member of the anti-Scietology hate gang
called "Anonymous".
They have never hesitated to lie in the past.
They obviously believe that they are exempt from morality, for reasons
that completely evade me, though I am sure that the Nazis would understand.
Tom
> Path: news.edisontel.com!nntp.eutelia.it!news.newsland.it!newsfeed.freenet.de!newspeer1.nac.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: Anonymous <scientol...@live.com>
> Newsgroups: nl.scientology,alt.religion.scientology
> Subject: How I Was Kidnapped by Scilons and Lived to Tell The Tale
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT)
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--
The Truth will set you free:
http://www.sethcenter.com
AnonymousNasty
In Toronto we got lucky we have a long time critic $cientology who got
the protest permit for us and also dealt with the cops for us
Anonymous. As well I have been educating an officer who was part of
two of the protest of the four that have taken part in are city. Plus
last protest I ran into a cop that I know from running a group (that
assist marginalized woman who are victims of violence) and spent a few
minutes in giving him the low down on Co$. In particular talking about
their fair game policies and bull baiting. And last I told him about
Lisa McPherson. We both agreed if that happen here in Canada there
would have been criminal charges for manslaughter of some type. The
younger Anonymous must be mentored by the long time critics about the
dangers they face taking on the cult, sure we troll one another out
here for luluz but the bottom line is people die in $cientology or die
from $cietology ( Shawn Lonsdale).
ANONYMOUS
OPERATION SEA ARRRG
JUNE 14 TH
EXPECT US FOR 3 BILLION YEARS
WE NEVER FORGIVE YOUR CRIMES
WE NEVER FORGET YOUR VICTIMS
$CIENTOLOGY KILL$
Lurk moar, troll less, or be trolled.......
Tom Newton
<9ab0da32-fcd0-42d4...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.co
m> Eldon <Eldo...@aol.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 8:29 pm, Anonymous <scientologyru...@live.com> wrote:
>> http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-or...
>>
>> Yesterday, on May 21, I went to a flash-raid in Amsterdam. There were
>> around 6-7 people present, including a long-time critic of
>> Scientology, Jeta Eggers.
I've snipped this story. The odds are it is complete fiction.
<snip>
Referring to the Scientologists:
> Sounds like they fed the cops a line of utter bullshit, which is
> typical of their "ethics" system.
Says someone who hides his/her identity behind the Internet and
numerous fake names and posts malicious lies about the Church of
Scientology and Scientology all day long.
Good thing for the Church of Scientology that most "Anonymous"
members are as stupid as this troll.
Tom
Anonymous
"Anonymous" <scientol...@live.com> schreef in bericht
news:a5d106f7-4af0-4d37...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-org-during-mini-raid-15216/3/#post282588
Maybe this is naďve of me and maybe it was a stupid idea but I did not
peters...@gmail.com
> On 2008-05-22, in
> <a5d106f7-4af0-4d37-a6c8-015892d3d...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
>
> > Anonymous <scientologyru...@live.com> wrote:
>
> I want to see some evidence that this isn't just another
> hate fiction piece.
Even if you were buried in evidence, you still are too stupid to
recognize it.
anon7571
news:9478f$48365f0e$3ec34c94$28...@news.chello.nl...
> Hail HER...
> "Anonymous" <scientol...@live.com> schreef in bericht
> news:a5d106f7-4af0-4d37...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-org-during-mini-raid-15216/3/#post282588
> I probably won't be pressing charges because I don't want them to find
> out my identity
That's one of the disadvantages of being anonymous.
Tom Newton
<adee462e-f24c-4414...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.co
m> peters...@gmail.com <peters...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23 mei, 01:18, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2008-05-22, in
>> <a5d106f7-4af0-4d37-a6c8-015892d3d...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
>>
>> > Anonymous <scientologyru...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>> I want to see some evidence that this isn't just another
>> hate fiction piece.
>
> Even if you were buried in evidence, you still are too stupid to
> recognize it.
Someone posting what could easily be pure fiction on the Usenet or
on a website is not evidence.
Trust me here, Peter.
Tom
AnonymousNasty
Look stop feeding the troll because he is trying to troll someone who
has the stupidity to talk back to him.......the troll must die by his
own hand.
peters...@gmail.com
> On 2008-05-23, in
> <adee462e-f24c-4414-b35b-2db5b36e9...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.co
>
> m> peterschi...@gmail.com <peterschi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 23 mei, 01:18, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 2008-05-22, in
> >> <a5d106f7-4af0-4d37-a6c8-015892d3d...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
>
> >> > Anonymous <scientologyru...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >> I want to see some evidence that this isn't just another
> >> hate fiction piece.
>
> > Even if you were buried in evidence, you still are too stupid to
> > recognize it.
>
> Someone posting what could easily be pure fiction on the Usenet or
> on a website is not evidence.
>
> Trust me here, Peter.
>
> Tom
>
> --
> The Truth will set you free:http://www.sethcenter.com
Trust a 60 year old idiot that has no credibility? ROFL!
You are SO dumb!
BTW: How about your announced visit to me at
Grotestraat 18
5821 AE Vierlingsbeek?
Chickened out? No surprise to me.
Eldon
>
> Groups and individuals needed to educate the cops. Purchased cops
> need to be outed.
I don't think the Amsterdam cops could be purchased like the London
ones apparently were to some extent. My guess is that the Scilons just
went alarmist, told some lies, and the cops were initially a bit
pissed that she went into the org. They might well have seen that as
provocative if given a little misinformation.
Eldon
There were criminal charges until the cult blackmailed the coroner
into changing her report. I don't know how the hell they did that, but
they must have gotten some dirt on her or whatever. They also brought
in some "experts" to repudiate her diagnosis of dehydration, and did a
whole bunch of whining about how the procedures were flawed. So the
prosecutor dropped it due to lack of evidence.
Add to that the fact that Florida is arguably the most corrupt state
in the US at present, as demonstrated by the last two presidential
elections.
Eldon
> "Anonymous" <A...@me.a.pirate> wrote in message
>
> news:9478f$48365f0e$3ec34c94$28...@news.chello.nl...
>
> > Hail HER...
> > "Anonymous" <scientologyru...@live.com> schreef in bericht
> >news:a5d106f7-4af0-4d37...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> >http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-or...
> > I probably won't be pressing charges because I don't want them to find
> > out my identity
>
> That's one of the disadvantages of being anonymous.
See my comment above. The cop already got her identity, and there's
probably a way they could get it by filing charges against her.
Anonymous
"Eldon" <Eldo...@aol.com> schreef in bericht
news:aca97bef-aeed-4562...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Eldon
> SEE LAYER! can be done pro-deo.. .
OK< so you agree. But don't worry about it too much. See the stuff
about he Brit kid who is now off the hook. Rest assuired that for
everything the sinister cult does to harass you, they spend ten times
the effort and fail anyway1
>
> "Eldon" <EldonB...@aol.com> schreef in berichtnews:aca97bef-aeed-4562...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Tom Newton
<a5d106f7-4af0-4d37...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
> Anonymous <scientol...@live.com> wrote:
> Subject: Re: How I Was Kidnapped by Scilons and Lived to Tell The Tale
ROTFLMAO!!
You clowns really need to get lives.
Tom
redco...@gmail.com
> On 2008-05-22, in
> <a5d106f7-4af0-4d37-a6c8-015892d3d...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
>
> > Subject: Re: How I Was Kidnapped by Scilons and Lived to Tell The Tale
>
> ROTFLMAO!!
>
> You clowns really need to get lives.
>
> Tom
Tom, every time you change the topic name, you make your self look
even more foolish.
The cult is dying, and you can't handle it.
anon.ne...@gmail.com
> On 22 mei, 20:29, Anonymous <scientologyru...@live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-or...
>
> > will be checking out the options I have without going public with my
> > name.
>
> > Please feel free to spread this story so we can learn from this. This
> > was obviously a tactic they had prepared even though it wasn't
> > executed very gracefully. Scientology is fighting dirty and trying to
> > intimidate individual Anon. I'll be coming to the next raid, and the
> > next one, and the next one.
> > They can't stop us.
>
> matter how long they kept you.
> Do you have your story also in Dutch?
> I would like to post it on my website. Because this is huge!
>
> Peter
>
> "After an in-depth examination, an Investigative
> Commission titled "So-called Sects and Psycho-Groups" set up by the
> German Bundestag
> (Parliament) described the organization in its final report as an anti-
> constitutional movement
> with a criminogenic structure."
>
> http://www.scamofscientology.nl
Beste Peter,
het verslag van de Nederlandse Anon staat nu, naar het Nederlands
vertaald, op de Anon Nederland wiki "http://sektevrij.nl". Ga je
gang :)
peters...@gmail.com
anon.nederl...@gmail.com schreef:
> > > Maybe this is na�ve of me and maybe it was a stupid idea but I did not
Hartstikke bedankt! Staat nu via de link erop!
Fun City
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"Anonymous" <scientol...@live.com> wrote in message
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http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-org-during-mini-raid-15216/3/#post282588
Maybe this is naïve of me and maybe it was a stupid idea but I did not
Out_Of_The_Dark
> LRH will return in his space chariot and kick your damn Meat Bag ass.
> 101010101010101111101010101010101010101!!!!!!
>
>
> news:a5d106f7-4af0-4d37...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...http://forums.enturbulation.org/15-breaking-news/anon-held-captive-or...
Sorry to hear this happened. These org staff doing these kind of
things are just plain old bullies. Fair Game is the stuff of mobsters
and bullies and I am so disappointed to see how staff members over the
years have agreed with Hubbard on this and becoime what they set out
not to be. OSAmobsters they are.
Mary