Rob Clark, ptsc and Henry- in his own words (1 of 2)
Clar...@juno.com
friends, who are real free speech advocates, I put together some of
clues as to why I thought, a while back, that Rob Clark was "ptsc".
Regardless of what name he uses this individual has no respect for
anyone who supports Scientologists (whether they are Scientologists or
not). And even less respect if they are Scientologists.
The following is the original bomb threat against Scientology posted by
Rob Clark on 11 April 1995.
Rob denied it for two years - as he waited for the statutes to run out
- and then "confessed" by writing an apology saturated with pretense.
From: anon...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (henry)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: copyright violation?
Date: 11 Apr 1995 22:31:53 -0600
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In article <noodleD6...@netcom.com>,
Rick Sherwood <noo...@netcom.com> wrote:
[100 lines of stuff from this spamming jerk deleted]
> You mean, don't confuse me with the truth. Right, Diane.
hey, at least she doesn't quote a hundred FUCKING LINES of
stuff to FOLLOWUP with two lines of stupid zombie gibberish!
you stupid noodlehead motherfucker.
> Gosh, Diane you won't ever be confused by the truth.
that's for sure.
unlike you, the truth does not confuse diane.
evidently, it confuses you greatly.
>You won't touch it
>with a ten foot pole.
hey, give me that ten foot pole.
i'll whack the shit out of you with it.
>Woody
h
BLOW UP YOUR LOCAL CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY TODAY!
Later, Rob comes back to ars as "ptsc". Repudiating his fake apology
in writing on 28 June 1997, he continues to address Scientologists and
non-Scientologists in the manner that follows below. (I have excerpted
quotes of interest and import for the purpose of this posting while
also including the reference to the posting so anyone can retrieve the
full text for verification):
1) Subject: Re: Religious Persecution (was Re: L. Ron Hubbard and the
Occult)
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 07:22:50 -0400
You lying sack of SHIT!
It's been posted to this fucking thread a dozen times you goddamn lying
nutcase!
2) Subject: Re: The Purification Rundown, Niacin and the Liver: Correct
Information
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 07:46:38 -0400
The bottom line, sir, is that you are a fucking idiot and a liar.
3) Subject: Lex the timewasting troll and fraud
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 08:14:09 -0400
Yep. FUCK OFF AND DIE and get off the damn channel.
ANNOTATION: "i find violence repugnant, and i am ashamed of the possibility of
even for a moment seeming to encourage violence." Rob Clark 28 June 1997.
4) Subject: Re: The Purification Rundown, Niacin and the Liver: Correct
Information
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 20:51:36 -0400
Fuck off, cult moron.
Since I am at heart a giddy anarchist, I do not share the Court's deep
and grave distress at the notion of anonymous individuals
destroying "valuable intellectual property rights" willy-nilly,
rather it gives me a bit of a thrill!
ANNOTATION: "i "got away" with what i did as well, in a certain sense. i got
overwrought, made an asshole comment, then when called on it i tried to run away
from it and lied about it." Rob Clark 28 June 1997.
5) Subject: Re: Bob Minton- This Is For You Magoo
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:02:08 -0400
Fuck your group. I'm glad to be your enemy.
Yes. Fuck the skull of Hubbard, and fuck you.
ANNOTATION: "now i'm saying hell with that. i said it, i was wrong, i retract it,
and i apologize to any scientologists anywhere who were actually terrified by the
thought of a random net idiot like me spewing whatever silly thoughts came into my
head without having the sense to edit what i wrote before i sent it." Rob Clark 28
June 1997.
6) Subject: Re: Amsterdamned exhibition
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:58:06 -0400
What the fuck is this demented gibberish, you drooling cultist freak?
7) Subject: Re: John Dorsay- This newsgroup is alt.Religion.Scientology
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:48:17 -0400
Shut the fuck up and blow me.
If you don't like spam being cancelled, go ride a dick.
8) Subject: Re: Bob Minton- This Is For You Magoo
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:00:20 -0400
You sick fucking nut.
9) Subject: Re: This Scientologist is a RELIGIOUS BIGOT
From: ptsc <pt...@my-deja.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:40:46 -0400
I have terms for you, too. Fanatic. Lunatic. Publicly buggered
nut-cultist. Fool. Moron. Pinhead. Acraniate invertebrate.
Degraded imbecile. Puking incompetent. Garbage-can-sitting
grumping malcontent. Nimrod. Tapeworm.
ANNOTATION: "in fact, if there were violence against scientology and a violent
faction who opposed your cult through violence, i would switch sides long enough
to make sure that any such scumbags paid for their crimes." Rob Clark 28 June
1997.
See: Rob Clark, ptsc and Henry- in his own words continued (2 of 2)
Clark
I.S.Rennie
<snip the usual dead-agenting intro>
> From: anon...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (henry)
<snip header>
> In article <noodleD6...@netcom.com>,
> Rick Sherwood <noo...@netcom.com> wrote:
>
> [100 lines of stuff from this spamming jerk deleted]
>
> > You mean, don't confuse me with the truth. Right, Diane.
>
> hey, at least she doesn't quote a hundred FUCKING LINES of
> stuff to FOLLOWUP with two lines of stupid zombie gibberish!
>
> you stupid noodlehead motherfucker.
>
> > Gosh, Diane you won't ever be confused by the truth.
>
> that's for sure.
> unlike you, the truth does not confuse diane.
> evidently, it confuses you greatly.
>
> >You won't touch it
> >with a ten foot pole.
>
> hey, give me that ten foot pole.
> i'll whack the shit out of you with it.
>
> >Woody
>
> h
> BLOW UP YOUR LOCAL CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY TODAY!
Dear god above.
THIS was the 'bomb threat'?
THIS is what all the fuss was about?
Am I the only person that thinks this is laughable in the extreme?
HOW could anyone even think this was serious?
This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
OK, I admit this was probably a pretty dumb thing to write. It was also
probably done in the heat of the moment and regretted after. But 'a
bomb threat'? Please!
This actually acts as a classic example of the 'church' taking a
statement, spicing it with rumour and pretending it is something much
greater than it actually was. Thanks for actually posting it, Clark.
It will make people realise quite how much of a mountain you made out of
this molehill.
Clark, get help. You need it.
Ian
Kaeli
particularly care less what you're posting about ptsc. Any comments?
Kaeli.
Clar...@juno.com wrote:
>
(snipped for bandwidth---rogers@home is still experiencing technical difficulties as a result from the fire at
the Old Mills subway station in Toronto. This outage mostly affected those who connect to the "etob1" head-end
modem. The outage lasted 72 hours, and there are still some bandwidth problems)
gs1100
" It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than to open one's
mouth and remove all doubt".
Clark, can you word-clear this for me?
--
"All that is required for tyranny to triumph is for good men to do
nothing".
GS1100, phD.(mail-order),BSc.(incomplete),PTS,SP1
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
Tilman Hausherr
<2000121316532...@nym.alias.net>:
>I took the time to go through my archives and with the help of some
>friends, who are real free speech advocates, I put together some of
>clues as to why I thought, a while back, that Rob Clark was "ptsc".
>Regardless of what name he uses this individual has no respect for
>anyone who supports Scientologists (whether they are Scientologists or
>not). And even less respect if they are Scientologists.
>
>The following is the original bomb threat against Scientology posted by
>Rob Clark on 11 April 1995.
>
>Rob denied it for two years - as he waited for the statutes to run out
>- and then "confessed" by writing an apology saturated with pretense.
I remember scientology saying a few days ago, when asked about the death
of Lisa McPherson: "we have put this behind us and have moved on". Now
Rob Clark has never been sued or indicted.
t
ENTURBULATE YOUR LOCAL CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY TODAY!
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In article <3A37AE9F...@sheffield.ac.uk>,
I.S.Rennie <LIP0...@sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:
>Clar...@juno.com wrote:
>
><snip the usual dead-agenting intro>
>
>> From: anon...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (henry)
[mega-snip]
>> h
>> BLOW UP YOUR LOCAL CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY TODAY!
>
>Dear god above.
>
>THIS was the 'bomb threat'?
Yep. Ask "clark_bor" to post the e-mail that Holena Kobrin sent
to Andrew (postm...@nyx.net) about it.
>THIS is what all the fuss was about?
Yep.
>Am I the only person that thinks this is laughable in the extreme?
Nope.
>HOW could anyone even think this was serious?
When you think you're possessed by space aliens, anything is possible.
-- .sig and PGP Block follow. Visit http://www.dimensional.com/~janda
^L
I define reality. What's your excuse?
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M. C. DiPietra
Ancient" Cochran at ja...@dimensional.com wrote on 12/16/00 12:36 PM:
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> In article <3A37AE9F...@sheffield.ac.uk>,
> I.S.Rennie <LIP0...@sheffield.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Clar...@juno.com wrote:
>>
>> <snip the usual dead-agenting intro>
>>
>>> From: anon...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (henry)
>
> [mega-snip]
>
>>> h
>>> BLOW UP YOUR LOCAL CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY TODAY!
>>
>> Dear god above.
>>
>> THIS was the 'bomb threat'?
>
> Yep. Ask "clark_bor" to post the e-mail that Holena Kobrin sent
> to Andrew (postm...@nyx.net) about it.
>
Haven't seen much of him round here the last few days...
>> THIS is what all the fuss was about?
>
> Yep.
>
>> Am I the only person that thinks this is laughable in the extreme?
>
> Nope.
>
>> HOW could anyone even think this was serious?
>
> When you think you're possessed by space aliens, anything is possible.
>
Evidently, Scientology[TM] removes sense of humor along with the engrams and
BTs. This would be pitiable if they didn't abuse the justice systems of the
world as a response.
> -- .sig and PGP Block follow. Visit http://www.dimensional.com/~janda
> ^L
> I define reality. What's your excuse?
>
> finger -l ja...@dimensional.com for my PGP public key block.
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Diane Richardson
No, most people thought the whole thing was absurd at the time.
>HOW could anyone even think this was serious?
I don't know, but among them were the police of State College, PA, and
Rob Clark's employer.
>This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
The episode became even more pathetic when Rob Clark concocted
his Big Lie -- that it was a forgery done by OSA to get him in
trouble. That's when Rob began presenting himself as a "victim" of
scientology. He claimed his life had been destroyed because of OSA's
dirty tricks and he began begging for money on this newsgroup.
>OK, I admit this was probably a pretty dumb thing to write. It was also
>probably done in the heat of the moment and regretted after. But 'a
>bomb threat'? Please!
Yeah, it was pretty pathetic, but Rob Clark made it work for him. He
managed to freeload off others for months, based on nothing more
substantial than his insistence that this was a "forgery."
>This actually acts as a classic example of the 'church' taking a
>statement, spicing it with rumour and pretending it is something much
>greater than it actually was. Thanks for actually posting it, Clark.
>It will make people realise quite how much of a mountain you made out of
>this molehill.
Actually, it's a perfect example of why newsgroup subscribers
shouldn't believe everything they read on this newsgroup. Rob Clark
proved to me, at least, that scientologists aren't the only people who
stoop to deceit and deception when it benefits them to do so.
>Clark, get help. You need it.
Diane Richardson
ref...@bway.net