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[fade in from commercial break]
OPRAH: ... really misunder... Every time you say the word people get...
I know back there my producers are going OOHH my God Scientology...
TRAVOLTA: You can be a Catholic Scientologist...
OPRAH: You can?
TRAVOLTA: ...and a Protestent Sc... and a Baptist S... We have every
denomination.
OPRAH: So what is the center... I never understand, what is it...
TRAVOLTA: It's mainly to help you survive better on the planet. We're
in trouble on this planet, you know, in a lot of ways...
<applause>
OPRAH: Umm Hmm.
TRAVOLTA: It's just a self help forum, to help you survive better, as
tools, that actually work... in all, various forms...
OPRAH: So is it... It's not a religion?
TRAVOLTA: Well it is technically, because by law, and by the
dictionary, you have to go... that term. Because it deals with the
spiritually end... through spiritually and physically at times... Like
Dianetics is the body... It deals with injuries, and emotional upsets,
and things like that... That's very specific and it deals with the
body, and the mind. And the Scientology deals with church... of the
trade, to survive better, on the planet.
OPRAH: Do you think we would be better off, if we understood what those
were?
TRAVOLTA: Sure. I mean, it's almost like tackling the Encyclopedia
Brittanica, it's so vast and wide, the information that he's given us.
But the good news is that anybody can do it, it's not restricted at
all.
OPRAH: So why do you think it's so misunderstood? Why is it every time
it comes up, people get crazy and they think its...
TRAVOLTA: You'd have to read a book, I think to really understand it..
<laughter>
You know I think most things are judged before they're read.
OPRAH: How has it changed you? Or made you better?
TRAVOLTA: I wouldn't be here.
OPRAH: You wouldn't be here.
TRAVOLTA: I swear to you, I wouldn't be here. Because, look...
OPRAH: You mean John Travolta the actor, John Travolta the star...
TRAVOLTA: Yes, yes, you know there's only been a few of us who've had
to encounter what I've encountered... Calling a spade a spade... Maybe
Marylin Monroe or James Dean... half a dozen people, and they didn't
make it. For one reason or another. And I confronted all the reasons
they had. And I did make it, I'm still here. And there's a reason for
that.
<applause>
Thanks.
OPRAH: Let him finish the answer though, I want the answer...
TRAVOLTA: I think you have to be tough to survive, on this planet,
tough by nature, and I wasn't sure I was, and then through learning
different techniques I learned that I could be actually tougher than I
thought, to survive a lot coming at you at once.
-- Oprah Winfrey Show
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BARBARA WALTERS: You know, it is well known that the two of you are
members of the Church of Scientology. As simply as you can tell us, what
is it, and what does it give you?
JOHN TRAVOLTA: All I can tell you is what I observed to be true. And,
it's a group of people that are really, have the goals and intentions of
no war, no criminality, no insanity.
KELLY PRESTON: No drugs...
TRAVOLTA: Now that's a group that I want to be part of, you know what I
mean? The group that has that as it's purposes and goals, and honestly,
you know, uhh. That's a broad stroke, and now, the techniques of how to
get there, those things, are varied, and to try to address them is like
trying to address the Encyclopedia Brittanica.
BARBARA: Does a Scientologist have to marry a Scientologist...
TRAVOLTA and PRESTON: No.
BARBARA: ...can it work if one of you is and one of you isn't?
PRESTON: Yes. It definitely...
TRAVOLTA: Oh sure there's Jewish Scientologists, there's Catholic
Scientologists, there's...
BARBARA: Really?
PRESTON: But also even if the.. yeah.
TRAVOLTA: Sure...
PRESTON: But I think it may be easier if both are, looking at the
philosophy, and working on themselves because if one person...
TRAVOLTA: But it doesn't interfere, with, what you grew up with let's
say.
BARBARA: Were you a Scientologist before you met...
PRESTON: Before I... I had, uhh, taken a couple of courses and thought
this was always, you know, was something that was very interesting... I
mean, basically, for me I just felt, Scientology rocks. It's so... It
is, it's amazing! I actually used to take drugs. I've gotten off drugs
completely have never gone back, so... It does so much for you as an
individual.
BARBARA: But Kelly, it, it's sort of hard to describe, I mean I'm even
trying to so, give me one example, you see, so therefore...
PRESTON: [crosstalk] It's not really, no no no, no but we did give you
examples, there also, say for our career, here's another one. There's a
thing called an administration scale, which is mapping out your career
step by step, both of us did it, he did it right before Pulp Fiction,
his career exploded again, I did it... before Jerry McGuire ended, it
really happened...
TRAVOLTA: If you aren't feeling well, there are about... thirty five
different approaches I would do to help you make, help you feel better.
Right now, if Barbara Walters...
PRESTON: <joking> Go get sick Barbara, follow...
TRAVOLTA: ...didn't, didn't feel well, I could help you, possibly feel
better, quickly...
BARBARA: By... doing...
TRAVOLTA: By doing hands on assists, that are very specific, you follow
an order...
PRESTON: ...whole body assists...
TRAVOLTA: You, you follow an order of, of, an instruction, of how to do
it and you'd be amazed at the results it gets.
BARBARA: Does it bother you, when there is such criticism, and people
sort of look at you as if you're in some strange mysterious cult?
PRESTON: <laughing> I don't feel like they do though...
TRAVOLTA: I mean you know, no one gets into Scientology and doesn't, if
they, if they, if they see it, the evidence that it works for them, they
use it. If they don't, they dont.
BARBARA: Nobody's forcing you...
PRESTON: No, exactly...
TRAVOLTA: Nobody's for... you know, this is...
BARBARA: But you've heard those rumors too...
PRESTON: I know...
TRAVOLTA: I have but I don't quite grasp them, because here I am, twenty
five years and, I like my life, you know...
PRESTON: You also hear rumors about everything...
TRAVOLTA: Other things, too. Rumors, you have to be very careful with
rumors period...
BARBARA: Well you've had to live with rumors, both of you. You know, but
you have to just...
TRAVOLTA: Everyone does.
BARBARA: ...I guess handling it?
PRESTON: Well in this business, you, everybody has to...
TRAVOLTA: And you get to the point where it, after a while, if you just
start taking it...
PRESTON: We don't even read it.
TRAVOLTA: ...too personally, you know, you, you, you won't, survive it.
You see, you have to know what the truth is, and then, you, you segue
into moving above it, or filling it in... with the right information.
You know.
BARBARA: Or ignore it.
TRAVOLTA: Or ignore it. Sure.
PRESTON: Exactly. We tend to ignore it, anything. <giggle>
TRAVOLTA: Too busy doing things that matter, you know, to, to pin too
much attention...
PRESTON: We're having fun... Living.
-- The Barbara Walters Interview 2001
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SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT
ASK THEM ABOUT XENU
Mike O'Connor <http://www.leptonicsystems.com/>
> BARBARA: Does it bother you, when there is such criticism, and
people
> sort of look at you as if you're in some strange mysterious cult?
>
> PRESTON: <laughing> I don't feel like they do though...
snip
Well, there you have it. John and Kelly are totally non-confront.
Let me add a big "Shame, shame, shame, Barbara!" for summing up
years of criminal convictions as "rumors". "Journalist" my ass.
Steve G.
Barbara Walters has _never_ been a journalist or a reporter.
She's a fluffer who gets to interview stars because they _know_ she
won't ask any tough questions they haven't agreed to cry about.
Actually, she started out a news-writer and a reporter at NBC. She
even went on Nixon's trip to China in '72. That's the tragedy of
it: she went from legitimate reporter to "celebrity journalist".
(Source:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/biographiesDetails/walters_barb
ara_bio_2020.html)
Steve G.
Huh. Well.
How about, "As far back as I can remember..." I can't remember
'72 (too young), but I can remember the "Baba Wawa" sketch on SNL.
She had definitely stopped being a real reported by the late
'70s.
<snip>
O'Connor's real frustration with this it the fact that John Travolta gets more
media impressions in a few minutes than all of ars does in a score of months.
Go stick your head up a dead ewe's bum.
tam
Make that "years".
Why are you hiding at -8.0 at your own tone-scale?
Is the simple answer that you're a scientology mafia criminal?
Well, at least you're totally incapable of being honest and open, like
this:
Sten-Arne Zerpe
Kristinelundsvagen 24
S-17150
Solna
Sweden.
Phone: +46 8 826189
Mobile 1: +46 70 6808790
Mobile 2: +46 70 2184508
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Here's how I think Hubbard did his "research." He downed a bottle of
gin, popped a few pills, passed out and woke up hours later, clutching
the empty bottle and screaming "The psychs are coming, the psychs are
coming, they're crawling all over me. Get 'em off, get 'em off." And,
another Scientology rundown was thus created, the False Purpose rundown.
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