Jeff Stone's Sister calls us 'hatemongers'
barbz
Thank you for your e-mail. First let me say that Supervisor Stone is
my brother not my Father! Thanks for the compliment!! I like to tease
him that people think he looks old enough to be my Father. Now to the
serious issues at hand.
The "hatemonger" comment was directed to a group called ANONYMOUS, a
very hateful group of people that wear masks and caps similar in message
to the KU KLUX KLAN. Supervisor Stone made this clear at the Board
meting with a display of their inappropriate materials they proliferate.
Second, Supervisor Stone is a conservative public servant that has been
and has clearly demonstrated his pro-life stance. If anyone is coerced
and held against their will at this or any religious compound, he would
not condone such activity and encourage complaints be made to the
Sheriffs department or District Attorney's office OR the grand jury if
the identities of those making the complaints) want to remain
identityless. You'll note that as a part of this ordinance which was a
copy of other City's and County's ordinances, the Supervisor said he did
not want to infringe ones rights to protest, a guarantee protected under
the US Constitution. This is why he continued it to reconsider lifting
the 300 foot distance from a private residence. The Supervisor also is a
strong proponent of the US Constitution protection of the right to
religious freedom. He made an example of how a Mormon Bishop was
harassed on or adjacent to his personal property as a result of his
support of Proposition 8.
To summarize, the "hatemonger" comment was intended for the
group calling itself "anonymous." If you belong to that group then he
did in fact mean to include you. He remains pro-life, pro-religious
freedom, and wants to ensure one's right to protest that does not
endanger the lives of those being protested against at their personal
residence. I hope this clarifies the Supervisor's position in this
matter. Thank you for your correspondence.
Lori
-----Original Message-----
From: barb [mailto:oph...@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 4:06 PM
To: Stone, Lori
Subject: Forced abortions and child abuse at Golden Era Productions
I see that your dad seems to be defending the Scientology base at
Gilman Hot Springs. He called us "Hatemongers" in print.
Here's a little taste of what we were protesting at "Gold Base." As an
advocate for womens' issues, you might find this interesting.
"11. While at the base, (Golden Era Studios) I knew of several
instances of staff getting pregnant and being coerced to get an
abortion. Some instances were relayed to me by the victims themselves
and others were relayed to me by another. In every instance they had to
go through ethics handling designed to prevent them that it would be far
more advantageous to Scientology and the Sea Org for each of them to
have an abortion. Some of these women went through extensive pressure
methods to convince them to have an abortion.
The severity of the Ethics handling was directly proportional to the
prospective mother's desire and insistence to keep the child. I myself
got pregnant in 1993 and gave up my child due to my greatly misguided
obligation and dedication to the Sea Org." (members of
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=940&I
temid=12
Forced abortions. And we are the hatemongers for protesting this, one of
many other abuses suffered by the inmates in that razor-wire lined
internment camp. It seems that everyone but Riverside officials are
aware of this mistreatment.
If you care, google "Scientology forced abortions." Also try "child
labor," another delightful abuse imposed on the most powerless of the
Scientology hierarchy.
A number of those kids have grown up, gotten away and are speaking out.
Here are their stories: http://exscientologykids.com/
Ask your father why he is trying so hard to crush our First Amendment
right to free speech when the horrible abuses are allowed to continue at
Golden Era.
Sincerely
barbara graham
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barb
Chaplain, ARSCC(wdne)
"Our belief in freedom of religion has made it impossible, (With a
helping hand from well placed Scientologists in government, of course!)
to recognize when a criminal conspiracy pretends to be a religion."
--Brett Bellmore
Hartley Patterson
> To summarize, the "hatemonger" comment was intended for the
> group calling itself "anonymous." If you belong to that group then he
> did in fact mean to include you.
As I'm sure you realised, Mr Stone had or has yet to have the cognition
that Anonymous is not a single organisation. The people who allegedly
wrote the material that upset him are not the same people who protested at
Gold, any more than you or he are murderers or pedophiles as are some
American citizens.
So, he's wrong. Backing him into a corner by publicly telling him so, not
good. Giving him every opportunity in private communication to consider
both sides of the debate and gracefully change his attitude, better.
--
Hartley Patterson
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/
http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com
xenufrance
Fredric L. Rice
>The "hatemonger" comment was directed to a group called ANONYMOUS, a
>very hateful group of people that wear masks and caps similar in message
>to the KU KLUX KLAN.
LOL! She and her brother are obviously Scientology morons.
---
"From my house I can see Belgium" -- President Sarkozy
barbz
Or at least, utterly misled by cult propaganda and too lazy to bother
doing any research.
I suspect some public humiliation in both their futures. This will not
end well.
rattusrattus
> Dear Barb,
> Thank you for your e-mail. First let me say that Supervisor Stone is
> my brother not my Father! Thanks for the compliment!! I like to tease
> him that people think he looks old enough to be my Father. Now to the
> serious issues at hand.
> very hateful group of people that wear masks and caps similar in message
>.... He called us "Ironmongers" in print.
>
> Here's a little taste of what we were protesting at "Gold Base." As an
> advocate for womens' issues, you might find this interesting.
>
> http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=940&I
> temid=12
>
http://exscientologykids.com/
zluL
>
Alexia Death
>
> >> The "hatemonger" comment was directed to a group called ANONYMOUS, a
> >> very hateful group of people that wear masks and caps similar in message
> >> to the KU KLUX KLAN.
>
> > LOL! She and her brother are obviously Scientology morons.
>
> > ---
> > "From my house I can see Belgium" -- President Sarkozy
>
> Or at least, utterly misled by cult propaganda and too lazy to bother
> doing any research.
>
> I suspect some public humiliation in both their futures. This will not
> end well.
lessons. Just parroting some propaganda is so stupid.
Heres an idea, barbz... Email her some photos of anons hug raids. You
know, the ones where they give out hugs to random people :D, lets see
how she factors that into her KKK mindset. Shes in bad need of a crash
course in life&internets.
barbz
I thought of sending her the pic of our Gold Base protest. Signs
protesting slave labor and abuse, balloons, wooo, scary shit, Maynard!
Maybe some pix of REAL spittle spewing, eye bugging, vein bulging
hatemongers rallying in the form of Westboro Baptist Church?
Or is their message of hate ok because, well, they're a CHURCH.
Maureen
It would be interesting to find out if $cientology has (in it's own
past life) or currently are members of any group(s) where they have
intentionally used that media to attack others for the hate activity
they themselves have purloined.
http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol34i1/page09.htm
'Getting Tough on Hate'
'Members of the Coalition
Against Hate Crimes acknowledge service of outgoing chair Marcy
Westerling of the Rural Organizing Project: (Left to right) Det. David
Yamasaki, Portland Police Bureau Hate Crimes Unit; Marcy Westerling;
Angie deRouchie, Church of Scientology in Portland; Amalia Alarcon-
Gaddie, current coalition chair and executive director of the
Metropolitan Human Rights Center'
(this from Oregon, where the Dianetically unstable, "Samurai member"
came from)
--
"Coalition Against Hate Crimes"
-----
How long have they been a member of this or any group, to use it's
media and other members to hatefully and violently attack critics by
the very methods they stand against? They have dropped their
distasteful "being persecuted as Jews during the Holocaust, (the worn
out persecution card, as was used when the movie "Mission Impossible
I" was released to rally other celebs.)
----
same propaganda, different target:
Now we hear the generality of 'hate' or the 'KKK.' This is old
information being spreasd again, as if no one would remember their use
of propaganda in the past...
(3 scans)
Hemet News, July 11, 1991
Hoden Calls Network 'religious hate group'
by the Hemet News
Headline date, Hemet News:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/dblin/Hemet_News_1991_July_11__headlineda.jpg
"Hoden calls Network 'religious hate group'
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/dblin/Hemet_News_1991_July_11__Hoden_call.jpg
continued, Page A-14
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/dblin/Hemet_News_1991_July_11.jpg
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"All this group ever does is harp and criticize. But not only that, it
employs outright criminal means to achieve its devious ends; which
are to destroy Scientology and other religions.
It is for that reason that we call it a religious hate group. When
judging them by the results of their actions, they fare no better than
would be the KKK or a group that has anti-semitism written onto its
banner. Their deeds show that the groups ultimate goal is to destroy
the First Amendment," (sic ") having attacked other religions as
well...
----
The generality of hate does not make this fallacious argument about
first amendment having anything to do with CAN deprogramming or other
religions. Eg., Scientology is not a religion. Deprogramming did not
make the CAN, 'fare no better than the KKK.' Adding numbers of people
from other groups to make Scientology (a corporation) assume a
religiously persecuted (non-profit) group is a form of corporate
'astroturfing,' no different than a Scientology letter writing
campaign to feign consensus, or an online Parade Magazine poll where
Scientology uses a network of computers to vote in their elite comment
of choice. (Also propaganda by repetition).
This comparison is no different than the current Anonymous targeting
with hate language, by fallacious arguments to manipulate, using the
media. Ultimately, one of the first media the clam cult infiltrated
was 'The Spotlight' where they gained their tax exemption in 1993.
Maureen