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Pastor William Rennick

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:34:57 PM11/25/09
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Let's say you are minding your own business, heading off to another
Scientology meeting and right outside YOUR place of worship is some ancient,
overweight, greasy haired rummy of a "lady" {Barbz?}is persecuting you for
your peaceful religious beliefs. How can you prevent this?

It's relatively easy. Get everyone in the House of Worship to file a
restraining order against this lovely person. It would help your case to
audio record and photograph the offender showing threatening behavior,
especially towards children. Now with a number of restraining orders she
can't come within x yards of the place (x depends on the jurisdiction and
type of order). Now for the fun part - push the offender back by sending
members out their way. Force them down the street and away or else they'll
face arrest. Make sure you have kids and if you can get evidence of the
offender hurting a child all the better.

Now, with enough complaints against the offender individuals can force a
psychiatric evaluation. Once they are in the looney bin it's difficult to
get out. If the offender has threatened or harmed children - its jail time
and more!

Our congregation has used this method and it is remarkably effective. There
are also other techniques to use if things get uglier. May you travel in
peace and never cross paths with an angry drunken driver (hint: they get
even nastier when wearing used, ill fitting jail provided underwear).

Pastor William Rennick


"Rev" Norle Enturbulata DDT, OD, DTS

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:03:28 PM11/25/09
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"Pastor William Rennick" <ohbej...@congregation.net> wrote in message
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> Let's say you are minding your own business, heading off to another
> Scientology meeting and right outside YOUR place of worship is some
> ancient, overweight, greasy haired rummy of a "lady" {Barbz?}is
> persecuting you for your peaceful religious beliefs. How can you prevent
> this?

If you told the truth for a start, it would help in your case, bigot-boy.
Your lingo is Scientology-soaked, and you've outed yourself by default.

Every Scientologist op who gets sent to this newsgroup and other forums
starts out claiming they're 'not a Scientologist' but ends up showing
themselves for the charged-up, pathetic attack-bots you were indoctrinated
into believing you had to be.

"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any
organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause
them to sue for peace. Peace is bought with an exchange of advantage, so
make the advantage and then settle. Don't ever defend. Always attack. Don't
ever do nothing. Unexpected attacks in the rear of the enemy's front ranks
work best."
- L. Ron Hubbard HCO PL 15 Aug 1960, "Department of Governmental Affairs"
*
"In short a staff member can get away with murder so long as his statistic
is up and can't sneeze without a chop if it's down. ... When people do start
reporting a staff member with a high statistic, what you investigate is the
person who turned in the report."
- L. Ron Hubbard, HCO PL 1 September 1965, "Ethics Protection"

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that
down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody
is to lie to them."
-- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
*
"Better than 90 percent of what my father has written about himself is
untrue."
- Ron deWolf, son of L. Ron Hubbard
*
"This volume probably contains more promises and less evidence per page than
has any publication since the invention of printing."
- Review of "Dianetics", Scientific American, 1951
*
"Consider this officer lacking in the essential qualities of judgement,
leadership and cooperation. He acts without forethought as to probable
results... Not considered qualified for command or promotion at this time.
Recommend duty on a large vessel where he can be properly supervised."
- US Navy Fitness Report Reprimanding Lt. L. Ron Hubbard, 1943

Pastor William Rennick

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:32:16 PM11/25/09
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""Rev" Norle Enturbulata DDT, OD, DTS" <-earthl...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> If you told the truth for a start, it would help in your case, bigot-boy.
> Your lingo is Scientology-soaked, and you've outed yourself by default.
>

I'm an ordained minister with a Doctorate in Divinty. I can help you, would
you like a referral to a low cost clinic in your area? You have become so
blinded by hatred not only of others but of yourself. You can never see the
light unless you take personal inventory. See things for what they are, not
as what you want them to be.

Yours in peace,

Pastor William Rennick


barbz

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:43:54 PM11/25/09
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Pastor William Rennick wrote:
> Let's say you are minding your own business, heading off to another
> Scientology meeting and right outside YOUR place of worship is some ancient,
> overweight, greasy haired rummy of a "lady" {Barbz?}is persecuting you for
> your peaceful religious beliefs. How can you prevent this?

Let's say you're minding your own business, on your way for your weekly
brain washing and wallet emptying session, and right outside your place
of business is a 110 lb. older woman with a sign that says SCIENTOLOGY
CONVICTED OF FRAUD IN FRANCE!

How can you prevent this? You can't. It's called free speech.


>
> It's relatively easy. Get everyone in the House of Worship to file a
> restraining order against this lovely person. It would help your case to
> audio record and photograph the offender showing threatening behavior,
> especially towards children. Now with a number of restraining orders she
> can't come within x yards of the place (x depends on the jurisdiction and
> type of order). Now for the fun part - push the offender back by sending
> members out their way. Force them down the street and away or else they'll
> face arrest. Make sure you have kids and if you can get evidence of the
> offender hurting a child all the better.

Ah, you're such a hopeless troll...


>
> Now, with enough complaints against the offender individuals can force a
> psychiatric evaluation. Once they are in the looney bin it's difficult to
> get out. If the offender has threatened or harmed children - its jail time
> and more!

And getting even stupider by the paragraph!


>
> Our congregation has used this method and it is remarkably effective. There
> are also other techniques to use if things get uglier. May you travel in
> peace and never cross paths with an angry drunken driver (hint: they get
> even nastier when wearing used, ill fitting jail provided underwear).
>
> Pastor William Rennick
>
>


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those who pooh-poohed or ignored the clown car of ridicule when it
pulled-up to the curb.

Stephen Jones

barbz

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:46:01 PM11/25/09
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I see you for what you are...and I like the way you fill in the blanks
on people you will never meet.

Pastor William Rennick

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:08:04 PM11/25/09
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"barbz" <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>
> How can you prevent this? You can't. It's called free speech.
>>

Free speech is the only speech you can afford.

>
> Ah, you're such a hopeless troll...
>>

To play with a troll you must climb under the bridge.


>
> And getting even stupider by the paragraph!

Yet you somehow manage to follow along.

>>May you travel in peace and never cross paths with an angry drunken driver
>>(hint: they get even nastier when wearing used, ill fitting jail provided
>>underwear).
>>

I hope you learned your lesson not to drink and drive. People use drinking
to numb themselves from having any real feelings. It is a total mind-body
disconnect. We all can't be svelte beauties can we, but at least you can
muster some some respect for yourself. Tear down that wall of hostility and
be the little spring flower you used to be before you learned to hate as a
form of defence. Regain your innocence and dignity! Be someone you can be
proud of!

A little religious tolerance goes a long way,

Pastor William Rennick


Patty Pieniadz

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:20:56 AM11/26/09
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Plonk another retard.


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husk

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:42:56 AM11/26/09
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On Nov 25, 7:34 pm, "Pastor William Rennick"

<ohbejoy...@congregation.net> wrote:
> Let's say you are minding your own business, heading off to another
> Scientology meeting and right outside YOUR place of worship is some ancient,
> overweight, greasy haired rummy of a "lady" {Barbz?}is persecuting you for
> your peaceful religious beliefs. How can you prevent this?

Well Pastor,

If yo have been paying attention, even though the (insert your
uncharacteristic for a pastor insult here) protestor is outside you
church, ir is not the beliefs of the church that one is protesting.
The protestors are not protesting the belief in the Xenu story.
Everyone is free to believe what you wish. The protestors are not
protesting the belief in engrams or thetans. Again, believing in
these beings or entities, or whatever class they are, is harmless.
The is nothing spiritually wrong with Scientology.

You need to open your eyes and focus on what really is being
protested. When Catholic priests were being protested against, no one
was protesting Jesus.

husk

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:48:27 AM11/26/09
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On Nov 25, 8:32 pm, "Pastor William Rennick"
<ohbejoy...@congregation.net> wrote:
> ""Rev" Norle Enturbulata DDT, OD, DTS" <-earthligh...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:hekk56$8do$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

>
>
>
> > If you told the truth for a start, it would help in your case, bigot-boy.
> > Your lingo is Scientology-soaked, and you've outed yourself by default.
>
> I'm an ordained minister with a Doctorate in Divinty. I can help you, would
> you like a referral to a low cost clinic in your area? You have become so
> blinded by hatred not only of others but of yourself. You can never see the
> light unless you take personal inventory. See things for what they are, not
> as what you want them to be.
>
> Yours in peace,
>
> Pastor William Rennick

If you really are an ordained minister, why would you first recommend
a referral to non-spiritual counseling. Ordained ministers are
trained to counsel. Why would you not encourage one to go to their
local clergy?

This just proves that your claims of religious background are false.

Pastor William Rennick

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:49:49 AM11/26/09
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"husk" <hu...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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Well Pastor,

If yo have been paying attention, even though the (insert your
uncharacteristic for a pastor insult here) protestor is outside you
church, ir is not the beliefs of the church that one is protesting.
The protestors are not protesting the belief in the Xenu story.
Everyone is free to believe what you wish. The protestors are not
protesting the belief in engrams or thetans. Again, believing in
these beings or entities, or whatever class they are, is harmless.
The is nothing spiritually wrong with Scientology.

You need to open your eyes and focus on what really is being
protested. When Catholic priests were being protested against, no one
was protesting Jesus.


Husk,

Thanks for taking the time to be thoughtful. The Xenu story is outrageous
science fiction. Anyone who believes that needs help. It's as silly as
believing the earth is only a few thousand years old.


Now, you have pointed out the key. "Focus on what is really being
protested". Excellent point! Let's look at 2 of the "protesters". First look
at Monica. She is bright, to the point and succintly defends herself against
false accusations. She has definite boundaries (she knows when to quit
engaging a troll) and won't climb into the mud to wrestle pigs. She has
intellectual integrity and deserves respect from everyone even if they don't
agree with her. She is sincere and genuine. Now look at Barbz. Her first
step in debate is to climb into the gutter with vulgar language. There is no
debate, no facts, just a continuous stream of provocation. She's in this
game for the adrenaline rush. She thrives on the fight and not the goal, she
is the means with no end. These two appear to be comrades in arms but that
is the furthest thing from the truth. Monica is an intellectual, fighting
for truth and justice (excuse the cliche) which is something external to
herself and noble, Barbz is in it because she gets off on fighting and
destruction which is all about her addiction. Just look at their live's
paths -two very different courses that speak volumes about their
motivations. So the real question may not be so much as to "what is being
protested" as to "why it is being protested" in reference to the motivations
of individual protestors. Be careful with who you chose as a partner in the
fight because after you win that partner may turn on you.

God bless you,

Pastor William Rennick

PS: Why not a Reformation for Scientology? Leave the old ridiculous stuff
behind , take the good and start over? Just a thought...


DamOTclese

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Nov 26, 2009, 1:02:59 PM11/26/09
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"Pastor William Rennick" <ohbej...@congregation.net> wrote:

> Scientology meeting and right outside YOUR place of worship

Fatal logic fallacy: Begging the question. Scientology business offices
are business offices, Scientology is not a religion -- obviously.

FAIL again, Mary DeMoss.

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Andrew Robertson

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Nov 26, 2009, 4:09:48 PM11/26/09
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"Pastor William Rennick" <ohbej...@congregation.net> wrote in message
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<snip>

> I hope you learned your lesson not to drink and drive.


Oh dear. You've just given yourself away. That was the wrong sentence to
write.

Never mind.

Andrew

> Pastor William Rennick

barbz

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Nov 26, 2009, 5:56:08 PM11/26/09
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Pastor William Rennick wrote:
> "barbz" <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:H3lPm.25240$Sw5....@newsfe16.iad...
>> How can you prevent this? You can't. It's called free speech.
>
> Free speech is the only speech you can afford.
>
>> Ah, you're such a hopeless troll...
>
> To play with a troll you must climb under the bridge.
>
>
>> And getting even stupider by the paragraph!
>
> Yet you somehow manage to follow along.
>
>>> May you travel in peace and never cross paths with an angry drunken driver
>>> (hint: they get even nastier when wearing used, ill fitting jail provided
>>> underwear).
>>>
>
> I hope you learned your lesson not to drink and drive.

That was almost 20 years ago, dumbass.

People use drinking
> to numb themselves from having any real feelings. It is a total mind-body
> disconnect. We all can't be svelte beauties can we, but at least you can
> muster some some respect for yourself. Tear down that wall of hostility and
> be the little spring flower you used to be before you learned to hate as a
> form of defence. Regain your innocence and dignity! Be someone you can be
> proud of!

LOL you stupid fuck...I am not overweight, I am quite fit, and I have
more respect for myself than I do Scientology. (I'll leave that for your
tiny brain to parse.)


>
> A little religious tolerance goes a long way,

A little religious cognizance goes longer. Learn 2 discern.

barbz

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Nov 26, 2009, 6:04:40 PM11/26/09
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"Rev" Norle Enturbulata DDT, OD, DTS wrote:
>
>
> "Pastor William Rennick" <ohbej...@congregation.net> wrote in message
> news:heklpt$2n8$1...@aioe.org...

>>
>> ""Rev" Norle Enturbulata DDT, OD, DTS" <-earthl...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote in message news:hekk56$8do$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> If you told the truth for a start, it would help in your case,
>>> bigot-boy. Your lingo is Scientology-soaked, and you've outed
>>> yourself by default.
>>>
>>
>> I'm an ordained minister with a Doctorate in Divinty.
>
> Too bad you're not eddicated enough to spell "Divinity", clambot.
> Ignorant AND transparent.
>

Dare we say, "clear?"
heh heh heh heh heh...

Pastor William Rennick

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:00:05 PM11/26/09
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"barbz" <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>
> LOL you stupid fuck...I am not overweight, I am quite fit, and I have more
> respect for myself than I do Scientology. (I'll leave that for your tiny
> brain to parse.)

No parsing necessary, I'll take it at face value.

So what did you learn during your 6 month jail sentence? How to operate and
industrial washing machine?

Did your mustache begin to fill in?

Go out and get some sun and exercise. Shed a few pounds, get some color and
increase the circulation to your brain.

Pastor William Rennick


Chef Xenu

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:17:32 PM11/26/09
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On Nov 25, 8:32 pm, "Pastor William Rennick"
<ohbejoy...@congregation.net> wrote:
> ""Rev" Norle Enturbulata DDT, OD, DTS" <-earthligh...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:hekk56$8do$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

>
>
>
> > If you told the truth for a start, it would help in your case, bigot-boy.
> > Your lingo is Scientology-soaked, and you've outed yourself by default.
>
> I'm an ordained minister with a Doctorate in Divinty. I can help you, would
> you like a referral to a low cost clinic in your area? You have become so
> blinded by hatred not only of others but of yourself. You can never see the
> light unless you take personal inventory. See things for what they are, not
> as what you want them to be.
>
> Yours in peace,
>
> Pastor William Rennick

Respectfully request you satisfy my curiosity:

1. Where and by whom were you ordained? (also what denomination,
please)

2. Where did you go to seminary, and when and from what institution
did you receive your DD?

3. Are you still pastoring (as opposed to retired, etc.), and if so at
what Church?

Happy Thanksgiving,
Chef Xenu
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Pastor William Rennick

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Chef Xenu

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:44:19 PM11/26/09
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On Nov 26, 9:37 pm, "Pastor William Rennick"
<ohbejoy...@congregation.net> wrote:
> http://www.ulc.net/

lol, ok, that explains a lot. You got your ordination from a place I
once used to ordain my cat, and you purchased your DD from same.

'nuff said

Chef Xenu

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:52:56 PM11/26/09
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On Nov 26, 9:37 pm, "Pastor William Rennick"
<ohbejoy...@congregation.net> wrote:
> http://www.ulc.net/

you should add a diploma in demonology to your CV, I have one from
Landover Baptist University.

get yours at: http://www.fes-net.com/_lob/news0201/diploma1.pdf

barbz

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Nov 27, 2009, 12:44:56 AM11/27/09
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Pastor William Rennick wrote:
> "barbz" <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:tIDPm.82605$gg6....@newsfe25.iad...
>> LOL you stupid fuck...I am not overweight, I am quite fit, and I have more
>> respect for myself than I do Scientology. (I'll leave that for your tiny
>> brain to parse.)
>
> No parsing necessary, I'll take it at face value.
>
> So what did you learn during your 6 month jail sentence? How to operate and
> industrial washing machine?

What jail sentence? Doesn't exist, pal.


>
> Did your mustache begin to fill in?

Have you managed to start one yet?


>
> Go out and get some sun and exercise. Shed a few pounds, get some color and
> increase the circulation to your brain.

Shed a few pounds? LOL...I can hardly afford to do that. And I don't
take advice from trolls.

barbz

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Nov 27, 2009, 12:50:29 AM11/27/09
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Funny...I'm ordained there too, but I just printed out my cert because
everybody is a "minister" of ULC. Most people don't actually pretend to
being a real minister, though. That entails a bit more than punching a
few keys and hitting 'enter.'

Jens Tingleff

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:14:02 AM11/27/09
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Pastor William Rennick wrote:

> Let's say you are minding your own business, ...


>
> It's relatively easy. Get everyone in the House of Worship

House of Worship, no less?

Is that where the criminal organisation known as the "church" <spit> of
$cientology plans its organised fraud?

They have already been found guilty in France. Let's see what happens in
Belgium when that trial starts. Oh, and France is only beginning, this was
the first of three cases being worked on - the next two area actually about
serious things (deaths and so on).

Excellent English coverage of French fraud trial:

http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2009/10/courts-ruling.html

Best regards

Jens


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"Rev" Norle Enturbulata DDT, OD, DTS

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"Pastor William Rennick" <ohbej...@congregation.net> wrote in message

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>
> "husk" <hu...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:8bec6c7d-a362-49f4...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
>
> Well Pastor,
>
> If yo have been paying attention

Yo! Check out the clambot's posting of its own ignorant spew, constructed
of ignorant thoughts. Purposefully-ignorant that is, as is normal inside
Scientology, the cult.

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