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Ron Newman

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Oct 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/30/97
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At least ten of these today, with no syntactically valid e-mail address
in the From: header. Either it's the beginning of a new attempt at flooding,
or someone's trying to get people to killfile Zippo (which would be a
Very Bad Thing, since many real a.r.s. folks post from there,
like me).

This isn't yet net-abuse, but it's starting to head in that direction,
based on my experience with past events in a.r.s.

Cc'd to j...@zippo.com as a heads-up.

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Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: Sonia Rivera
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: scientology humiliated in Berlin today
Date: 29 Oct 1997 21:34:46 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 2
Message-ID: <63969m$a...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-806.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223268

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: Luis Carrillo
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: scientology humiliated in Berlin today
Date: 29 Oct 1997 21:28:02 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 6
Message-ID: <6395t2$8...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-754.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223266

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: Margaret Foley
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: ActualCode is being wongheaded IMHO (Re: Internet Ventures...
yaddah)
Date: 29 Oct 1997 22:27:23 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 5
Message-ID: <6399cb$j...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-359.newsdawg.com
X-No-Archive: Yes
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223289

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: Justin Calhoun
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Internet Ventures, Inc. officers
http://www.perki.net/corporate/exec.h
Date: 29 Oct 1997 22:13:14 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 8
Message-ID: <6398hq$g...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-216.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223282

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: Eugene Bergner
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: new to computers
Date: 29 Oct 1997 21:40:02 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 4
Message-ID: <6396ji$b...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-865.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223270

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: Aaron Tobin
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Berlin Media Summary
Date: 29 Oct 1997 21:37:53 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 5
Message-ID: <6396fh$a...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-864.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223269

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: The Researcher
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,fl.general
Subject: McPherson Case Authority #3
Date: 29 Oct 1997 18:46:05 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 28
Message-ID: <638sdd$6...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-614.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223251 fl.general:4913

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: A Researcher
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,fl.general
Subject: McPherson Case Authority #2
Date: 29 Oct 1997 18:41:13 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 19
Message-ID: <638s49$5...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-559.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223247 fl.general:4912

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: A Researcher
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,fl.general
Subject: McPherson Case Authority
Date: 29 Oct 1997 18:38:23 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 104
Message-ID: <638ruv$4...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-519.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223242 fl.general:4911

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: Gloria Moreno
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Picket report in San Jose
Date: 29 Oct 1997 22:16:19 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 2
Message-ID: <6398nj$h...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-217.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223283

Path: szdc!newsp.zippo.com!drn
From: D Anderson's son
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,misclegal,comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: Internet Ventures, Inc. (Response)
Date: 29 Oct 1997 14:28:19 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]
Lines: 101
Message-ID: <638da3$5...@drn.zippo.com>
References: <344cca1d...@news.supernews.com>
<344f85c8...@news.calstate.edu> <34513C75...@tidepool.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-849.newsdawg.com
Xref: szdc alt.religion.scientology:223179 comp.org.eff.talk:26546

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Joel Rubin

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Does Zippo's news server always ad an "NNTP-Posting-Host" on its own
domain of newsdawg.com? None of these NNTP-Posting-Host's, including
the one on your complaints posting, resolves to an IP number.

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Ron Newman

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In article <345a70b5...@nntp.best.ix.netcom.com>,
jmr...@ix.netcom.com (Joel Rubin) wrote:

> Does Zippo's news server always ad an "NNTP-Posting-Host" on its own
> domain of newsdawg.com? None of these NNTP-Posting-Host's, including
> the one on your complaints posting, resolves to an IP number.

Hmm, that's really strange -- I've forwarded your message to
Joe Zip....

Zane

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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:01:19 -0500, rne...@thecia.net (Ron Newman)
wrote:

>> Does Zippo's news server always ad an "NNTP-Posting-Host" on its own
>> domain of newsdawg.com? None of these NNTP-Posting-Host's, including
>> the one on your complaints posting, resolves to an IP number.
>
>Hmm, that's really strange -- I've forwarded your message to
>Joe Zip....

Ron,

I think y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill. I believe
zippo has a pretty complex networked system and the nntp-posting-host
identifies one of the systems, nothing more sinister than that.

Zane


Zane

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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:32:39 +0100,
The.Galacti...@ThePentagon.com (Anti-Cult) wrote:

>How very footbulletish of the alleged scientologist to abuse his account
>so blatantly.

Damn, wish my response to that post hadn't disappeared. I'd hate to
see the ARSCC end up with a bullet in the foot.

Zane


Anti-Cult

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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:27:06 -0500.
rne...@thecia.net (Ron Newman).
From: None.
Wrote on the subject: Re: New attempt to flood a.r.s. starting, from
Zippo today?:

>In article <rnewman-ya0240800...@snews.zippo.com>,


>rne...@thecia.net (Ron Newman) wrote:
>
>> At least ten of these today, with no syntactically valid e-mail address
>> in the From: header. Either it's the beginning of a new attempt at flooding,
>> or someone's trying to get people to killfile Zippo (which would be a
>> Very Bad Thing, since many real a.r.s. folks post from there,
>> like me).
>>
>> This isn't yet net-abuse, but it's starting to head in that direction,
>> based on my experience with past events in a.r.s.
>>
>> Cc'd to j...@zippo.com as a heads-up.
>

>And Joe Zip wrote back to me. (I'm forwarding this with his permission.)
>
>---------------------
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:54:07 -0800
>From: Joe <j...@zippo.com>
>To: Ron Newman <rne...@thecia.net>
>Subject: Re: New attempt to flood a.r.s. starting, from Zippo today?
>
>This turned out to be an Original Zippo user who had been with us for over
>a year without prior incident. Very strange. In any case, their membership
>was terminated, as is standard policy, the group was cleaned up and cancel
>messages were issued.
>
>Joe

How very footbulletish of the alleged scientologist to abuse his account
so blatantly.

Bwahahaha.....Criminal cult....


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Martin Hunt

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In article <34ea9d2a....@snews.zippo.com>,
z_th...@ix.netcom.com (Zane) wrote:

Right, Zane; that header is seen in critics who post to ars as well:

(headers abbreviated)

From: Heinz Mueller
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: FACTNet Weekly Scientology Report
Date: 29 Oct 1997 21:31:44 -0800
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]

NNTP-Posting-Host: p-805.newsdawg.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[clam clap-trap snipped]

From: Sonia Rivera
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]

Message-ID: <63969m$a...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-806.newsdawg.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[clam clap-trap snipped]

From: Aaron Tobin
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]

Message-ID: <6396fh$a...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-864.newsdawg.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[clam clap-trap snipped]

From: Eugene Bergner
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]

Message-ID: <6396ji$b...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-865.newsdawg.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[clam clap-trap snipped]

From: Justin Calhoun
Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com]

Message-ID: <6398hq$g...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-216.newsdawg.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[clam clap-trap snipped]

And from our very own Warrior:

From: Warrior <war...@electrotex.com>
Organization: Sunshine disinfects
Message-ID: <638ms1$e...@drn.zippo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-909.newsdawg.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I note that many posts from Zippo by critics have a numerical NNTP
address, while all the clam posts have the newsdawg one. Coincidence?
I suspect these are all from one clam trying to make himself out to
be a group; group consensus, manufactured and ready-made.

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MikeSmith3

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Oct 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/31/97
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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 02:53:50 -0500, rne...@thecia.net (Ron Newman) wrote:

---del


>
>This isn't yet net-abuse, but it's starting to head in that direction,
>based on my experience with past events in a.r.s.

Cop to Newman:

The reason I stopped you is that I thought you were getting too close to the
speed limit and I've had bad experiences with the kind of car you drive.


Fast

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I guess this is as close as we will get to an admission that the
Multiple Personalities recently posting are Co$ operatives.

- Fast

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